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Date: 29 Apr 2007 07:14:43
From: TomP
Subject: 2006 Tour de France Winner?
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Who finally was declared the winner?
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Date: 06 May 2007 20:15:58
From: Bob
Subject: Re: 2006 Tour de France Winner?
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On May 1, 7:24 am, mavilleavelo <webmas...@mavilleavelo.com > wrote:
> On 1 mai, 04:24, Bill <b...@comcast.net> wrote:
A bit of history: one of the first doping scandals
> occurred on July 13, 1967. British cyclist Tom Simpson died climbing
> Mont Ventoux following use of amphetamines. The amphetamines allowed
> Simpson to pass his level of endurance and succumb to excessive
> exhaustion. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
> Doping_at_the_Tour_de_France)
> French officials can no longer admit drugs users among competitors,
> they are a shame for themselves and the nation they represent,
> whatever the nation.
> Richard Virenque, a french competitor, was caught with drugs and he
> paid the price. The same goes for Foyd Landis or Lance Armstrong.
If you believe that Tommy Simpson's death in '67 was "one of the
*first* doping scandals" in the TdF I'd suggest you not throw stones
at others for being unfamiliar with Tour history. BTW, there haven't
been national teams in the TdF for many years. Riders "represent" the
companies that sponsor their team.
Regards,
Bob Hunt
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Date: 07 May 2007 01:23:05
From: Bill
Subject: Re: 2006 Tour de France Winner?
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Bob wrote:
> On May 1, 7:24 am, mavilleavelo <webmas...@mavilleavelo.com> wrote:
>> On 1 mai, 04:24, Bill <b...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> A bit of history: one of the first doping scandals
>> occurred on July 13, 1967. British cyclist Tom Simpson died climbing
>> Mont Ventoux following use of amphetamines. The amphetamines allowed
>> Simpson to pass his level of endurance and succumb to excessive
>> exhaustion. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
>> Doping_at_the_Tour_de_France)
>> French officials can no longer admit drugs users among competitors,
>> they are a shame for themselves and the nation they represent,
>> whatever the nation.
>> Richard Virenque, a french competitor, was caught with drugs and he
>> paid the price. The same goes for Foyd Landis or Lance Armstrong.
>
> If you believe that Tommy Simpson's death in '67 was "one of the
> *first* doping scandals" in the TdF I'd suggest you not throw stones
> at others for being unfamiliar with Tour history. BTW, there haven't
> been national teams in the TdF for many years. Riders "represent" the
> companies that sponsor their team.
>
> Regards,
> Bob Hunt
>
Apparently the op would ban coffee too, if it isn't already.
I think Lance and Floyd won on ability and not drugs.
I also think that Floyd got screwed by the European drug testing lab and
the French are really sore losers.
My 2 cents.
Bill Baka
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Date: 01 May 2007 05:24:59
From: mavilleavelo
Subject: Re: 2006 Tour de France Winner?
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On 1 mai, 04:24, Bill <b...@comcast.net > wrote:
> >> Yes, Floyd Landis and some others are a shame for such a prestigious
> >> event.
>
> > Once we dq the dopers, does Jimmy Caspar win?
>
> Why are you so convinced that Landis, and by extension, Lance were doing
> any doping? Is it just a case of France being a sore loser? We already
> know how self righteous the French are, so how would they treat a French
> winner?
They would treat him as Richard Virenque was! I am surprised you
pretend to talk about Tour de France knowing so litlle about its
recent history...
> I almost hate admitting to being part French.
Indeed, you don't look like deserving it.
> Bill Baka
> TdF boycotter this year, and maybe forever.
Drugs users who boycott the prestigious Tour de France found
themselves the wright attitude to adopt, hopefuly forever, we don't
like cheaters. A bit of history: one of the first doping scandals
occurred on July 13, 1967. British cyclist Tom Simpson died climbing
Mont Ventoux following use of amphetamines. The amphetamines allowed
Simpson to pass his level of endurance and succumb to excessive
exhaustion. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Doping_at_the_Tour_de_France)
French officials can no longer admit drugs users among competitors,
they are a shame for themselves and the nation they represent,
whatever the nation.
Richard Virenque, a french competitor, was caught with drugs and he
paid the price. The same goes for Foyd Landis or Lance Armstrong.
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Date: 01 May 2007 17:54:01
From: Bill
Subject: Re: 2006 Tour de France Winner?
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mavilleavelo wrote:
> On 1 mai, 04:24, Bill <b...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>>> Yes, Floyd Landis and some others are a shame for such a prestigious
>>>> event.
>>> Once we dq the dopers, does Jimmy Caspar win?
>> Why are you so convinced that Landis, and by extension, Lance were doing
>> any doping? Is it just a case of France being a sore loser? We already
>> know how self righteous the French are, so how would they treat a French
>> winner?
>
> They would treat him as Richard Virenque was! I am surprised you
> pretend to talk about Tour de France knowing so litlle about its
> recent history...
I rarely followed it before the Lance phenomenon.
>
>> I almost hate admitting to being part French.
>
> Indeed, you don't look like deserving it.
Deserving, or being sentenced?
>
>> Bill Baka
>> TdF boycotter this year, and maybe forever.
>
> Drugs users who boycott the prestigious Tour de France found
> themselves the wright attitude to adopt, hopefuly forever, we don't
> like cheaters. A bit of history: one of the first doping scandals
> occurred on July 13, 1967. British cyclist Tom Simpson died climbing
> Mont Ventoux following use of amphetamines. The amphetamines allowed
> Simpson to pass his level of endurance and succumb to excessive
> exhaustion.
That may be the one I heard about where the guys heart virtually
exploded from the extra effort. Taking Amphetamines at that point is
just about suicidal.
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
> Doping_at_the_Tour_de_France)
> French officials can no longer admit drugs users among competitors,
> they are a shame for themselves and the nation they represent,
> whatever the nation.
Amphetamines are a drug unto themselves, not like too much testosterone.
> Richard Virenque, a french competitor, was caught with drugs and he
> paid the price. The same goes for Foyd Landis or Lance Armstrong.
I kind of doubt that Lance was doing any doping and testosterone causes
a bit more than a performance gain. Too much testosterone and Landis
might have been punching out people.
>
Overly aggressive people tend to be testosterone cases.
Bill Baka
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Date: 30 Apr 2007 14:11:15
From: mavilleavelo
Subject: Re: 2006 Tour de France Winner?
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On 30 avr, 00:26, Bill <b...@comcast.net > wrote:
> Guess what I am NOT watching this year?
> Some event in France with corrupt and incompetent officials.
> Bill Baka
Yes, Floyd Landis and some others are a shame for such a prestigious
event.
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Date: 01 May 2007 02:16:13
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: 2006 Tour de France Winner?
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In article <1177967475.588129.198940@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com >,
mavilleavelo <webmaster@mavilleavelo.com > wrote:
> On 30 avr, 00:26, Bill <b...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Guess what I am NOT watching this year?
> > Some event in France with corrupt and incompetent officials.
> > Bill Baka
>
> Yes, Floyd Landis and some others are a shame for such a prestigious
> event.
Once we dq the dopers, does Jimmy Caspar win?
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 30 Apr 2007 19:24:03
From: Bill
Subject: Re: 2006 Tour de France Winner?
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Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> In article <1177967475.588129.198940@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
> mavilleavelo <webmaster@mavilleavelo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 30 avr, 00:26, Bill <b...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Guess what I am NOT watching this year?
>>> Some event in France with corrupt and incompetent officials.
>>> Bill Baka
>> Yes, Floyd Landis and some others are a shame for such a prestigious
>> event.
>
> Once we dq the dopers, does Jimmy Caspar win?
>
Why are you so convinced that Landis, and by extension, Lance were doing
any doping? Is it just a case of France being a sore loser? We already
know how self righteous the French are, so how would they treat a French
winner?
I almost hate admitting to being part French.
Bill Baka
TdF boycotter this year, and maybe forever.
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Date: 30 Apr 2007 18:10:44
From: Pat
Subject: Re: 2006 Tour de France Winner?
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>
>> Guess what I am NOT watching this year?
>> Some event in France with corrupt and incompetent officials.
>> Bill Baka
>
> Yes, Floyd Landis and some others are a shame for such a prestigious
> event.
We have this little idea called "innocent until proven guilty." You might
like it some day.
>
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Date: 30 Apr 2007 16:52:30
From: Bill
Subject: Re: 2006 Tour de France Winner?
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Pat wrote:
>>> Guess what I am NOT watching this year?
>>> Some event in France with corrupt and incompetent officials.
>>> Bill Baka
>> Yes, Floyd Landis and some others are a shame for such a prestigious
>> event.
>
> We have this little idea called "innocent until proven guilty." You might
> like it some day.
>
>
Right.
And as far as I am convinced Floyd is still innocent, but the officials
may well have been acting on a grudge about yet another American taking
their European title across the pond. I will always view Floyd as both
the winner and the victim.
Bill Baka
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Date: 29 Apr 2007 18:48:32
From: Mike Jacoubowsky
Subject: Re: 2006 Tour de France Winner?
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> Who finally was declared the winner?
Jimmy Caspar came oh-so-close, but in the end it was Wim Vansevenant
finishing just over 4 hours after the overall winner. Whomever that was.
Jimmy Caspar is frequently in the running for the Lantern Rouge.
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
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Date: 29 Apr 2007 22:26:09
From: Bill
Subject: Re: 2006 Tour de France Winner?
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Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>> Who finally was declared the winner?
>
> Jimmy Caspar came oh-so-close, but in the end it was Wim Vansevenant
> finishing just over 4 hours after the overall winner. Whomever that was.
> Jimmy Caspar is frequently in the running for the Lantern Rouge.
>
> --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
> www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
>
>
Guess what I am NOT watching this year?
Some event in France with corrupt and incompetent officials.
Bill Baka
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Date: 30 Apr 2007 09:30:26
From: Michael Warner
Subject: Re: 2006 Tour de France Winner?
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On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:26:09 GMT, Bill wrote:
> Guess what I am NOT watching this year?
> Some event in France with corrupt and incompetent officials.
The officials who are refusing to let riders under suspicion of doping into
their race, you mean?
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