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Date: 01 Mar 2007 15:49:20
From: Bill H.
Subject: 2007 Mercedes Benz Bikes
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Anyone seen/riden one of these:
http://www.motorcities.com/contents/07/2007-Mercedes-Benz-Bike-Collection_07BRB275026814.html
Not a bad bike altogether, if you can overlook the Alivio components.
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Date: 02 Mar 2007 06:15:27
From: landotter
Subject: Re: 2007 Mercedes Benz Bikes
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On 1, 5:49 pm, "Bill H." <bill...@gmail.com > wrote:
> Anyone seen/riden one of these:http://www.motorcities.com/contents/07/2007-Mercedes-Benz-Bike-Collec...
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> Not a bad bike altogether, if you can overlook the Alivio components.
What I've learned from that link: racks and fenders are for girls, the
average rider is so pusillanimous as to need a suspension with 37mm
tires, and that Merc is unaware of a Merc level drivetrain, which
would be a Rohloff hub.
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Date: 02 Mar 2007 05:49:21
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo
Subject: Re: 2007 Mercedes Benz Bikes
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On 1, 8:28 pm, Matt O'Toole <mattoto...@letterboxes.org > wrote:
> On Thu, 01 2007 15:49:20 -0800, Bill H. wrote:
> > Anyone seen/riden one of these:
> >http://www.motorcities.com/contents/07/2007-Mercedes-Benz-Bike-Collec...
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> > Not a bad bike altogether, if you can overlook the Alivio components.
>
> There's nothing wrong with Alivio components -- they work fine, better
> than the top of the line did 10-15 years ago.
1991, 15 years ago and DA/Ultegra 8s STI worked way better than DA/
ultegra of 1997/8 and was much more reliable. BUT not light and
'light' is the mantra today..'lighter is better', when lighter is
really just 'lighter'.
>
> I like how these bikes come with integrated lights, racks, etc., but I
> don't think Mercedes is doing themselves any favors with gimmicky frame
> designs and high prices. Sooner or later enough riders will figure out
> their bikes are just -- expensive. At least Mercedes cars feel like
> they're special, and better made.
>
> In contrast, the AMP-Mercedes mountain bikes from a decade ago had
> something to offer technologically. They were the best suspension design
> of the time, one that lives on as the Specialized FSR, still a great bike.
>
> Also, offering the AMP-Mercedes bikes with travel cases was a major
> breakthrough. I can't understand why it never caught on. It's
> natural for mountain bikes since the frames are in halves anyway -- no
> need for expensive couplers, etc.
>
> Back to cars and bikes, the Trek Edition Jetta was one of the most
> successful car promotions ever. Twentysomethings who were buying Jettas
> were also buying bikes and bike racks. With the Trek Jetta they could pay
> for all of it with a low-interest car loan. This was very st.
>
> Matt O.
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Date: 02 Mar 2007 02:57:40
From: BobT
Subject: Re: 2007 Mercedes Benz Bikes
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"Bill H." <billhen@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1172792960.520360.100300@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Anyone seen/riden one of these:
> http://www.motorcities.com/contents/07/2007-Mercedes-Benz-Bike-Collection_07BRB275026814.html
>
> Not a bad bike altogether, if you can overlook the Alivio components.
>
Wow, disc brakes and everything! Unmistakable! Striking! Elegant! High-end!
Uncompromising!
Rider must wear a $10,000 Rolex watch to match.
BobT
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Date: 01 Mar 2007 22:28:09
From: Matt O'Toole
Subject: Re: 2007 Mercedes Benz Bikes
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On Thu, 01 2007 15:49:20 -0800, Bill H. wrote:
> Anyone seen/riden one of these:
> http://www.motorcities.com/contents/07/2007-Mercedes-Benz-Bike-Collection_07BRB275026814.html
>
> Not a bad bike altogether, if you can overlook the Alivio components.
There's nothing wrong with Alivio components -- they work fine, better
than the top of the line did 10-15 years ago.
I like how these bikes come with integrated lights, racks, etc., but I
don't think Mercedes is doing themselves any favors with gimmicky frame
designs and high prices. Sooner or later enough riders will figure out
their bikes are just -- expensive. At least Mercedes cars feel like
they're special, and better made.
In contrast, the AMP-Mercedes mountain bikes from a decade ago had
something to offer technologically. They were the best suspension design
of the time, one that lives on as the Specialized FSR, still a great bike.
Also, offering the AMP-Mercedes bikes with travel cases was a major
breakthrough. I can't understand why it never caught on. It's
natural for mountain bikes since the frames are in halves anyway -- no
need for expensive couplers, etc.
Back to cars and bikes, the Trek Edition Jetta was one of the most
successful car promotions ever. Twentysomethings who were buying Jettas
were also buying bikes and bike racks. With the Trek Jetta they could pay
for all of it with a low-interest car loan. This was very st.
Matt O.
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Date: 02 Mar 2007 00:14:28
From:
Subject: Re: 2007 Mercedes Benz Bikes
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Bill Hen writes:
> Anyone seen/ridden one of these:
http://www.motorcities.com/contents/07/2007-Mercedes-Benz-Bike-Collection_07BRB275026814.html
> Not a bad bike altogether, if you can overlook the Alivio components.
... and don't mind gratuitous frame tubes and a loooong seat tube for
anyone over 6' tall.
I guess its a matter of form over function at the three pointed star
(aka Chrysler).
Jobst Brandt
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