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Date: 15 Nov 2006 15:52:50
From: Ken C. M.
Subject: A bike just to ride.
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Not really a question here. Just something I noticed. I had a bit of
time this afternoon so I thought I would take the recumbent out for a
ride, as I haven't ridden it in a couple of weeks. I wasn't planning a
long ride or anything, just some spin time on one of the local routes.
So that was the plan. Now I "borrowed" the bottle cage and cycle
computer off the 'bent to put on the road bike a couple of weeks ago. So
I set off riding and it felt kind of strange to glance down to where the
cycle computer used to be and not see it. But after a couple of time I
realized that I spent too much time looking at the darn thing. And after
a bit more I found that riding without it was actually more fun. I mean
I just rode at a speed / cadence that felt comfortable, probably to slow
on the overall speed but at a reasonable cadence. And I just rode until
I got home again. How long did it take me? I don't know. What was my
average speed? I have know idea. Did I enjoy the ride. Yes. I may go
without a computer on the 'bent. It's still a fun bike to ride. Even if
I don't have all the "important" information that the cycle computer
gives me.
Ken
--
The bicycle is just as good company as most husbands and, when it gets
old and shabby, a woman can dispose of it and get a new one without
shocking the entire community. ~Ann Strong
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 11:00:04
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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In article <OcidnSTMVsnGAv3YnZ2dnUVZ_uOdnZ2d@giganews.com >,
"Ken C. M." <ken@up-yours-spammer.net > writes:
> Interesting point about racing yourself. I have almost given up trying
> to compare my performance to others. And you made a good point about the
> info from a cycle computer being good to compare your rides. But some
> probably me included spend too much time looking at the darn things. I
> think the only thing that really matters (to me) is average speed, total
> distance, and time elapsed. All of which can be taken off the computer
> at the end of the ride.
That's what I used to do. In fact I meticulously journalized
my rides, including experiences, impressions, sights, weather,
and computer numbers. Fat lot of good all that did for me.
Actually, since I couldn't afford a decent camera, my journal
was my ersatz photo album.
> So most likely I will be mounting the
> cyclo-computer out of sight, unless I am going out on tour perhaps.
Just get older so you need reading glasses ;-)
cheers,
Tom
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Date: 17 Nov 2006 20:23:52
From: Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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Roger Zoul wrote:
> ...How do you store your two bikes? I'll be dealing with that problem soon.
Hang it (RANS Stratus or Formula?) from the front wheel so the bike is
perpendicular to the wall and let the rear wheel rest against the wall.
--
Tom Sherman - Post Free or Die!
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 20:17:41
From: Roger Zoul
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@yahoo.com >
wrote in message
news:1163823831.983199.180990@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::: ...How do you store your two bikes? I'll be dealing
::: with that problem soon.
::
:: Hang it (RANS Stratus or Formula?) from the front wheel
:: so the bike is perpendicular to the wall and let the
:: rear wheel rest against the wall.
Thanks. It's the Stratus XP. Hopefully, I get it next week.
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Date: 17 Nov 2006 13:45:46
From:
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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Paul Hobson wrote in part:
> ... I can see
> how a computer would greatly help with cue sheets when out in unfamiliar
> areas.
Maybe-- if the mileage cues are correct, if the
computer is properly calibrated[1], and
if the rider doesn't do _any_ extracurricular riding
along the way, like circling back to pick up a blown
off cap, or cruising half a block to a picnic bench to
take a rest[2], for instance. I suspect most riders'
mileage readings are off by a mile or two after
just fifty miles of riding, due to compounding errors
in calibration and extra riding..
A properly calibrated computer does have an important
function, however: it shows beginning riders that they're
not nearly as fast as they thought they were.
Robert
[1] Unlikely, as most folks just punch in the
number in the instruction booklet instead of
performing a proper rollout.
[2] That's an extra .1 right there for the round-trip
from the road to the bench and back.
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Date: 17 Nov 2006 16:57:38
From: Ken C. M.
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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r15757@aol.com wrote:
> Paul Hobson wrote in part:
>
>> ... I can see
>> how a computer would greatly help with cue sheets when out in unfamiliar
>> areas.
>
> Maybe-- if the mileage cues are correct, if the
> computer is properly calibrated[1], and
> if the rider doesn't do _any_ extracurricular riding
> along the way, like circling back to pick up a blown
> off cap, or cruising half a block to a picnic bench to
> take a rest[2], for instance. I suspect most riders'
> mileage readings are off by a mile or two after
> just fifty miles of riding, due to compounding errors
> in calibration and extra riding..
>
Very true. I find it's best to know something besides distance when
navigating in an unfamiliar area, like the street you want to turn onto
or a landk / business.
> A properly calibrated computer does have an important
> function, however: it shows beginning riders that they're
> not nearly as fast as they thought they were.
>
Very very true. I remember when I started cycling again as an adult and
bought my first cycle computer and was shocked when I felt like I was
going to die just trying to get over 12mph.
Ken
--
The bicycle is just as good company as most husbands and, when it gets
old and shabby, a woman can dispose of it and get a new one without
shocking the entire community. ~Ann Strong
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 23:56:38
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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In article <slrnelq22k.6td.john@vector.os2.dhs.org >,
John Thompson <john@vector.os2.dhs.org > writes:
> On 2006-11-16, Tom Keats <tkeats2005@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'd rather ride a bike than a computer.
>
> Yup. My butt hurts after only a few minutes of riding a on computer.
My brain hurts after only a few minutes of trying to
quantify a lovely bike ride.
cheers,
Tom
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 20:30:01
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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In article <4s3dvhFtqs4nU1@mid.individual.net >,
Pat Lamb <pdl678NOSPAM@comcast.net > writes:
> Tom Keats wrote:
>> In article <ejg2ea$v1$1@news-int.gatech.edu>,
>> Paul Hobson <fobson@gatech.edu> writes:
>>> I still don't understand why people have those things at all.
>>
>> I'd rather ride a bike than a computer.
>
> When I think I'm getting too compulsive about it, I flip my display to
> something else. For instance, show cadence on the large part and
> maximum speed on the little stuff at the bottom. The difference between
> 86.1 and 85.7 rpm rapidly becomes sufficiently boring to find something
> else to look at, like the surroundings.
Your surroundings can provide some useful information.
For example I like to look at the flags on buildings to
get an idea of wind speed & direction. Of course I know
of at least one spot where there are flags at three different
heights, often blowing in three different directions.
Then there's weather watching and "reading" the clouds (in
Vancouver, when you see the clouds stacking up against the
North Shore mountains, you know it's gonna rain.)
I can't even see a cycloputer display without reading glasses.
I can see where I'm going, or I can see what I'm doing, but
I can't do both at once.
cheers,
Tom
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 11:17:23
From: Roger Zoul
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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Ken C. M. wrote:
:: Not really a question here. Just something I noticed. I had a bit of
:: time this afternoon so I thought I would take the recumbent out for a
I didn't know you got a 'bent. Which one? Mine is supposed to be here next
week. I can't wait.
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 11:25:29
From: Ken C. M.
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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Roger Zoul wrote:
> Ken C. M. wrote:
> :: Not really a question here. Just something I noticed. I had a bit of
> :: time this afternoon so I thought I would take the recumbent out for a
>
> I didn't know you got a 'bent. Which one? Mine is supposed to be here next
> week. I can't wait.
>
>
Well I bought a 'bent last winter actually. Just a beginner one to
answer the recumbent question. I bought a slightly used (test rides) Sun
EZ-1 seeing it was the test model I got a pretty good deal on it. here
is a page on my site with a pic. It's not the best picture but I am
pretty sure you know what one looks like anyway:
http://www.bikesandmoreonline.com/mybikes.html
Ken
--
The bicycle is just as good company as most husbands and, when it gets
old and shabby, a woman can dispose of it and get a new one without
shocking the entire community. ~Ann Strong
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 11:39:39
From: Roger Zoul
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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Ken C. M. wrote:
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::: Ken C. M. wrote:
::::: Not really a question here. Just something I noticed. I had a bit
::::: of time this afternoon so I thought I would take the recumbent
::::: out for a
:::
::: I didn't know you got a 'bent. Which one? Mine is supposed to be
::: here next week. I can't wait.
:::
:::
:: Well I bought a 'bent last winter actually. Just a beginner one to
:: answer the recumbent question. I bought a slightly used (test rides)
:: Sun EZ-1 seeing it was the test model I got a pretty good deal on
:: it. here is a page on my site with a pic. It's not the best picture
:: but I am pretty sure you know what one looks like anyway:
:: http://www.bikesandmoreonline.com/mybikes.html
Thanks. Have you considered a tour on the EZ-1? How do you store your two
bikes? I'll be dealing with that problem soon.
::
:: Ken
:: --
:: The bicycle is just as good company as most husbands and, when it
:: gets old and shabby, a woman can dispose of it and get a new one
:: without shocking the entire community. ~Ann Strong
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 17:04:56
From: Bill
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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Roger Zoul wrote:
> Ken C. M. wrote:
> :: --
> :: The bicycle is just as good company as most husbands and, when it
> :: gets old and shabby, a woman can dispose of it and get a new one
> :: without shocking the entire community. ~Ann Strong
>
>
Does it also apply to wives?
Bill Baka
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 12:08:56
From: Ken C. M.
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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Bill wrote:
> Roger Zoul wrote:
>> Ken C. M. wrote:
>> :: --
>> :: The bicycle is just as good company as most husbands and, when it
>> :: gets old and shabby, a woman can dispose of it and get a new one
>> :: without shocking the entire community. ~Ann Strong
>>
>
> Does it also apply to wives?
> Bill Baka
>
I guess it could also apply to wives.
Ken
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The bicycle is just as good company as most husbands and, when it gets
old and shabby, a woman can dispose of it and get a new one without
shocking the entire community. ~Ann Strong
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 12:02:28
From: Ken C. M.
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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Roger Zoul wrote:
> Ken C. M. wrote:
> :: Roger Zoul wrote:
> ::: Ken C. M. wrote:
> ::::: Not really a question here. Just something I noticed. I had a bit
> ::::: of time this afternoon so I thought I would take the recumbent
> ::::: out for a
> :::
> ::: I didn't know you got a 'bent. Which one? Mine is supposed to be
> ::: here next week. I can't wait.
> :::
> :::
> :: Well I bought a 'bent last winter actually. Just a beginner one to
> :: answer the recumbent question. I bought a slightly used (test rides)
> :: Sun EZ-1 seeing it was the test model I got a pretty good deal on
> :: it. here is a page on my site with a pic. It's not the best picture
> :: but I am pretty sure you know what one looks like anyway:
> :: http://www.bikesandmoreonline.com/mybikes.html
>
> Thanks. Have you considered a tour on the EZ-1? How do you store your two
> bikes? I'll be dealing with that problem soon.
>
I have considered touring on the EZ-1. Although it's not the Tour Easy,
I think, from my experience with the 'bent and touring it would probably
be an okay bike to tour on. About storage - It's pretty easy, the M.V.
stays outside and the three bikes get to live in the garage. And for
security they are all cable locked together. So short of cutting the
cable it would be pretty difficult to ride away on any of them.
Ken
--
The bicycle is just as good company as most husbands and, when it gets
old and shabby, a woman can dispose of it and get a new one without
shocking the entire community. ~Ann Strong
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 03:08:37
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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In article <ejg2ea$v1$1@news-int.gatech.edu >,
Paul Hobson <fobson@gatech.edu > writes:
> Ken C. M. wrote:
> [snip]
>> I set off riding and it felt kind of strange to glance down to where the
>> cycle computer used to be and not see it. But after a couple of time I
>> realized that I spent too much time looking at the darn thing. And after
>> a bit more I found that riding without it was actually more fun. I mean
>> I just rode at a speed / cadence that felt comfortable, probably to slow
>> on the overall speed but at a reasonable cadence. And I just rode until
>> I got home again. How long did it take me? I don't know. What was my
>> average speed? I have know idea. Did I enjoy the ride. Yes. I may go
>> without a computer on the 'bent. It's still a fun bike to ride. Even if
>> I don't have all the "important" information that the cycle computer
>> gives me.
>
> I still don't understand why people have those things at all.
I'd rather ride a bike than a computer.
cheers,
Tom
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Date: 17 Nov 2006 00:55:35
From: John Thompson
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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On 2006-11-16, Tom Keats <tkeats2005@hotmail.com > wrote:
> I'd rather ride a bike than a computer.
Yup. My butt hurts after only a few minutes of riding a on computer.
--
John (john@os2.dhs.org)
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Date: 17 Nov 2006 10:29:16
From: Paul O
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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John Thompson wrote:
> On 2006-11-16, Tom Keats <tkeats2005@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'd rather ride a bike than a computer.
>
> Yup. My butt hurts after only a few minutes of riding a on computer.
>
Maybe you should consider a recumbent computer... ;-)
Paul D Oosterhout
I work for SAIC (but I don't speak for SAIC)
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 17:53:58
From: Zoot Katz
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 00:55:35 GMT, John Thompson
<john@vector.os2.dhs.org > wrote:
>On 2006-11-16, Tom Keats <tkeats2005@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'd rather ride a bike than a computer.
>
>Yup. My butt hurts after only a few minutes of riding a on computer.
That's probably because it's got too much RAM. (boooo!)
--
zk
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 09:21:20
From: Pat Lamb
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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Tom Keats wrote:
> In article <ejg2ea$v1$1@news-int.gatech.edu>,
> Paul Hobson <fobson@gatech.edu> writes:
>> Ken C. M. wrote:
>> [snip]
>>> I set off riding and it felt kind of strange to glance down to where the
>>> cycle computer used to be and not see it. But after a couple of time I
>>> realized that I spent too much time looking at the darn thing. And after
>>> a bit more I found that riding without it was actually more fun. I mean
>>> I just rode at a speed / cadence that felt comfortable, probably to slow
>>> on the overall speed but at a reasonable cadence. And I just rode until
>>> I got home again. How long did it take me? I don't know. What was my
>>> average speed? I have know idea. Did I enjoy the ride. Yes. I may go
>>> without a computer on the 'bent. It's still a fun bike to ride. Even if
>>> I don't have all the "important" information that the cycle computer
>>> gives me.
>> I still don't understand why people have those things at all.
>
> I'd rather ride a bike than a computer.
When I think I'm getting too compulsive about it, I flip my display to
something else. For instance, show cadence on the large part and
maximum speed on the little stuff at the bottom. The difference between
86.1 and 85.7 rpm rapidly becomes sufficiently boring to find something
else to look at, like the surroundings.
Pat
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Date: 15 Nov 2006 15:14:07
From: Brian Huntley
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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Paul Hobson wrote:
> I still don't understand why people have those things at all.
I can't imagine touring without one, especially in the US, where
distance signs seem almost non-existent compared to Canada's roads.
They help with "should I start looking for an alternate place to stop
or push on to my planned destination for the day?" decisions.
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Date: 15 Nov 2006 18:20:46
From: Ken C. M.
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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Brian Huntley wrote:
> Paul Hobson wrote:
>
>> I still don't understand why people have those things at all.
>
> I can't imagine touring without one, especially in the US, where
> distance signs seem almost non-existent compared to Canada's roads.
>
> They help with "should I start looking for an alternate place to stop
> or push on to my planned destination for the day?" decisions.
>
Having done my first tour last year, I can agree with you on that point.
I don't think I would want to tour any where without a cycle computer.
But then again I remember a few "bad" days where I looked down and the
average speed was about 8mph. That's enough to bum someone out. Seriously.
Ken
--
The bicycle is just as good company as most husbands and, when it gets
old and shabby, a woman can dispose of it and get a new one without
shocking the entire community. ~Ann Strong
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Date: 15 Nov 2006 15:04:26
From: gds
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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Ken C. M. wrote:
> >
> LOL That's good I like that one. Well the 'bent is a fun bike to just
> ride in my opinion just because I think the view is better, and without
> a cycle computer to be looking at all the time the ride seemed more
> enjoyable. But maybe I am just strange.
>
> Ken
> --
> The bicycle is just as good company as most husbands and, when it gets
> old and shabby, a woman can dispose of it and get a new one without
> shocking the entire community. ~Ann Strong
Not at all. I find ther are times I want the info from the computer and
times I'm not interested. I find a simple solution is to not reset it
from the previous ride so average speed, etc are pretty meaningless.
Although like many folks who ride a lot Ihave several favorite routes.
I can pretty much tell from how I feel on a particular day how fast I'm
riding. Thatis if I'm alone. In a pack I really can't tell as the
effort varies so much by position in the group.
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Date: 15 Nov 2006 14:45:29
From: gds
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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me wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 16:26:36 -0600, catzz66 wrote:
>
> > Paul Hobson wrote:
> >> gds wrote:
> >>
> >>> Paul Hobson wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I still don't understand why people have those things at all.
> >>>> \\paul
> >>>
>
> This reminds me of the story told by a tandem couple I knew, after
> descending Sinclair Canyon road in BC, he asks, "How fast were we going?"
> of his wife on the back, (Speedo mounted on her Handlebars) "Don't know"
> "Has it stopped working AGAIN!?" "No, it's working" "So why don't you
> know how fast?".......
>
>
>
>
> "Well, it only goes to 99Kph"
>
> !!!!!!!!!
That is a good story.
As we all know the distance accuracy on cyclocomputers is good but not
perfect while the time keeping functions is extremely accurate. I
always find it amusing when a bunch of us , having ridden together as a
pack for 40 or 50 miles roll up to our end point. We have all traveled
slightly differnet distances (according to our computers) and thus all
have slightly different speeds. The easiest way to claim victory in
such a situation is to adjust your computer so that you traveled the
furthest and thus went the fastest ;-)
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Date: 15 Nov 2006 14:12:59
From: gds
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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Paul Hobson wrote:
>
> I still don't understand why people have those things at all.
> \\paul
Some of us are compulsive and simpley can not do without ;-)
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Date: 15 Nov 2006 17:21:56
From: Paul Hobson
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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gds wrote:
> Paul Hobson wrote:
>> I still don't understand why people have those things at all.
>> \\paul
>
> Some of us are compulsive and simpley can not do without ;-)
haha. My roadie uncle was determined to convince me that I *had* to
have a HRM for commuting to/from school (7.5 miles each way). It'd let
me know when I was going too hard or not hard enough he argued. After
being sucked into the plastic Trek with all Ultegra vortex, he just
can't understand that I ride my bike simply to get somewhere.
To each his own, I s'pose
--
Paul M. Hobson
Georgia Institute of Technology
.:change the f to ph to reply:.
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Date: 15 Nov 2006 23:20:10
From: Bill
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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Paul Hobson wrote:
> gds wrote:
>> Paul Hobson wrote:
>>> I still don't understand why people have those things at all.
>>> \\paul
>>
>> Some of us are compulsive and simpley can not do without ;-)
>
> haha. My roadie uncle was determined to convince me that I *had* to
> have a HRM for commuting to/from school (7.5 miles each way). It'd let
> me know when I was going too hard or not hard enough he argued. After
> being sucked into the plastic Trek with all Ultegra vortex, he just
> can't understand that I ride my bike simply to get somewhere.
>
> To each his own, I s'pose
Why I ***don't*** have a Trek. I would either get it totally scratched
up or muddy or worse with my off the road side trips, like I did
yesterday with a kid in tow. I did what I wanted to, had fun doing it,
and didn't knock a kilobuck off my bikes value.
Bill Baka
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 08:18:09
From: Peter
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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"Bill" <bbaka@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:KgN6h.6574$Sw1.5341@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
> Paul Hobson wrote:
>> gds wrote:
>>> Paul Hobson wrote:
>>>> I still don't understand why people have those things at all.
>>>> \\paul
>>>
>
> Why I ***don't*** have a Trek. I would either get it totally scratched up
> or muddy or worse with my off the road side trips, like I did yesterday
> with a kid in tow. I did what I wanted to, had fun doing it, and didn't
> knock a kilobuck off my bikes value.
> Bill Baka
A bike without a scratch is like a flower without a scent...
Peter
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 14:07:07
From: Bill
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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Peter wrote:
> "Bill" <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:KgN6h.6574$Sw1.5341@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
>> Paul Hobson wrote:
>>> gds wrote:
>>>> Paul Hobson wrote:
>>>>> I still don't understand why people have those things at all.
>>>>> \\paul
>
>> Why I ***don't*** have a Trek. I would either get it totally scratched up
>> or muddy or worse with my off the road side trips, like I did yesterday
>> with a kid in tow. I did what I wanted to, had fun doing it, and didn't
>> knock a kilobuck off my bikes value.
>> Bill Baka
>
> A bike without a scratch is like a flower without a scent...
> Peter
>
>
Yes,
But I would cry if I spent kilobucks on a Trek and immediately scratched
it up.
Call me sentimental but I like my new things to look new. When I drive
the car for big items, nobody beter even look like they are going to
push a shopping cart at it.
Bill Baka
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 09:17:56
From: Ken C. M.
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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Bill wrote:
> Peter wrote:
>> "Bill" <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:KgN6h.6574$Sw1.5341@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
>>> Paul Hobson wrote:
>>>> gds wrote:
>>>>> Paul Hobson wrote:
>>>>>> I still don't understand why people have those things at all.
>>>>>> \\paul
>>
>>> Why I ***don't*** have a Trek. I would either get it totally
>>> scratched up or muddy or worse with my off the road side trips, like
>>> I did yesterday with a kid in tow. I did what I wanted to, had fun
>>> doing it, and didn't knock a kilobuck off my bikes value.
>>> Bill Baka
>>
>> A bike without a scratch is like a flower without a scent...
>> Peter
>>
> Yes,
> But I would cry if I spent kilobucks on a Trek and immediately scratched
> it up.
> Call me sentimental but I like my new things to look new. When I drive
> the car for big items, nobody beter even look like they are going to
> push a shopping cart at it.
> Bill Baka
Well for as much as I use the M.V. I won't own anything that looks too
nice. I don't see much sense in having a brand new shiny car sitting in
the driveway. I only drive the car about 50 miles a week on average.
Ken
--
The bicycle is just as good company as most husbands and, when it gets
old and shabby, a woman can dispose of it and get a new one without
shocking the entire community. ~Ann Strong
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 16:39:30
From: Bill
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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Ken C. M. wrote:
> Bill wrote:
>> Peter wrote:
>>> "Bill" <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:KgN6h.6574$Sw1.5341@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
>>>> Paul Hobson wrote:
>>>>> gds wrote:
>>>>>> Paul Hobson wrote:
>>>>>>> I still don't understand why people have those things at all.
>>>>>>> \\paul
>>>
>>>> Why I ***don't*** have a Trek. I would either get it totally
>>>> scratched up or muddy or worse with my off the road side trips, like
>>>> I did yesterday with a kid in tow. I did what I wanted to, had fun
>>>> doing it, and didn't knock a kilobuck off my bikes value.
>>>> Bill Baka
>>>
>>> A bike without a scratch is like a flower without a scent...
>>> Peter
>>>
>> Yes,
>> But I would cry if I spent kilobucks on a Trek and immediately
>> scratched it up.
>> Call me sentimental but I like my new things to look new. When I drive
>> the car for big items, nobody beter even look like they are going to
>> push a shopping cart at it.
>> Bill Baka
>
> Well for as much as I use the M.V. I won't own anything that looks too
> nice. I don't see much sense in having a brand new shiny car sitting in
> the driveway. I only drive the car about 50 miles a week on average.
>
> Ken
Me too.
The newest thing I have is a 2003 Kia for my daughter and I am happy
(sort of) with a 1988 Mazda 5 speed stick. At least I get to shift since
I hate automatics. My other car is just a project in the works, a 1966
Chrysler with a Police interceptor 440 Motor, insanely fast, but not too
practical these days. It came pre- scratched in 1985 when I first bought
it with a 383. I tweak cars/bikes/computers, whatever gets in reach.
Bill Baka
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Date: 15 Nov 2006 16:26:36
From: catzz66
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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Paul Hobson wrote:
> gds wrote:
>
>> Paul Hobson wrote:
>>
>>> I still don't understand why people have those things at all.
>>> \\paul
>>
>>
>> Some of us are compulsive and simpley can not do without ;-)
>
>
> haha. My roadie uncle was determined to convince me that I *had* to
> have a HRM for commuting to/from school (7.5 miles each way). It'd let
> me know when I was going too hard or not hard enough he argued. After
> being sucked into the plastic Trek with all Ultegra vortex, he just
> can't understand that I ride my bike simply to get somewhere.
>
> To each his own, I s'pose
One of those questions like why you wear a watch. Them that does, does.
Them that don't, don't.
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Date: 15 Nov 2006 23:21:16
From: Bill
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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catzz66 wrote:
> Paul Hobson wrote:
>> gds wrote:
>>
>>> Paul Hobson wrote:
>>>
>>>> I still don't understand why people have those things at all.
>>>> \\paul
>>>
>>>
>>> Some of us are compulsive and simpley can not do without ;-)
>>
>>
>> haha. My roadie uncle was determined to convince me that I *had* to
>> have a HRM for commuting to/from school (7.5 miles each way). It'd
>> let me know when I was going too hard or not hard enough he argued.
>> After being sucked into the plastic Trek with all Ultegra vortex, he
>> just can't understand that I ride my bike simply to get somewhere.
>>
>> To each his own, I s'pose
>
> One of those questions like why you wear a watch. Them that does, does.
> Them that don't, don't.
I use the sun. If it's going down, time to head back home. Going up is
time to head out. Maybe a sundial for my wrist??
Bill Baka
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Date: 15 Nov 2006 22:36:38
From: me
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 16:26:36 -0600, catzz66 wrote:
> Paul Hobson wrote:
>> gds wrote:
>>
>>> Paul Hobson wrote:
>>>
>>>> I still don't understand why people have those things at all.
>>>> \\paul
>>>
This reminds me of the story told by a tandem couple I knew, after
descending Sinclair Canyon road in BC, he asks, "How fast were we going?"
of his wife on the back, (Speedo mounted on her Handlebars) "Don't know"
"Has it stopped working AGAIN!?" "No, it's working" "So why don't you
know how fast?".......
"Well, it only goes to 99Kph"
!!!!!!!!!
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Date: 15 Nov 2006 18:03:16
From: Paul Hobson
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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Zoot Katz wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 16:59:13 -0500, Paul Hobson <fobson@gatech.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Ken C. M. wrote:
>> [snip]
>>> I set off riding and it felt kind of strange to glance down to where the
>>> cycle computer used to be and not see it. But after a couple of time I
>>> realized that I spent too much time looking at the darn thing. And after
>>> a bit more I found that riding without it was actually more fun. I mean
>>> I just rode at a speed / cadence that felt comfortable, probably to slow
>>> on the overall speed but at a reasonable cadence. And I just rode until
>>> I got home again. How long did it take me? I don't know. What was my
>>> average speed? I have know idea. Did I enjoy the ride. Yes. I may go
>>> without a computer on the 'bent. It's still a fun bike to ride. Even if
>>> I don't have all the "important" information that the cycle computer
>>> gives me.
>> I still don't understand why people have those things at all.
>> \\paul
> Recreational/Social/Fun rides, who cares how far it is? Just pedal
> until you get there.Though for randoneering an accurate computer is
> indispensable,
Ahhh. I admit, that's something I had not considered. While I guess
you make the argument that people got by without them before, I can see
how a computer would greatly help with cue sheets when out in unfamiliar
areas.
\\paul
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 07:22:51
From: Doc O'Leary
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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In article <ejg66d$2dp$1@news-int.gatech.edu >,
Paul Hobson <fobson@gatech.edu > wrote:
> Ahhh. I admit, that's something I had not considered. While I guess
> you make the argument that people got by without them before, I can see
> how a computer would greatly help with cue sheets when out in unfamiliar
> areas.
Yeah, but at that point GPS has gotten so cheap and small that it
doesn't make a lot of sense getting just a bike computer. I just this
year removed the magnetic pickups off my wheel/fork for a computer I
haven't used since the battery died years ago. For most things I'm in
the camp of "I'll pedal until I get there" or "I'll pedal harder because
I'm working out". About the only thing that interests me is what I can
average over distance so I can time my leaving, and for that I pretty
much count on simply planning for 15mph and getting there early if I'm
feeling particularly fit and/or miss a bunch of stop lights. While it
is cute to know your speed at any particular second, there really isn't
a lot you can *do* with that information while you're sitting on the
bike.
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 21:51:40
From: Solvang Cyclist
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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Doc O'Leary <droleary.usenet@4q2006.subsume.com > wrote in
news:droleary.usenet-3F49D6.07224916112006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net:
> While it
> is cute to know your speed at any particular second, there really isn't
> a lot you can *do* with that information while you're sitting on the
> bike.
>
I don't agree with that statement. I find that the computer an sometimes be
a good tool for helping to push me a little harder. There's a half mile
long hill that is at the end of most of my rides (unless I approach home
from the opposite direction.) I find that I will climb it faster if I set a
speed that I refuse to let myself fall under. It's fun to see if I can make
that speed creep up a bit as my conditioning improves.
Cheers,
David
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Date: 17 Nov 2006 21:26:15
From: Bill
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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Solvang Cyclist wrote:
> Doc O'Leary <droleary.usenet@4q2006.subsume.com> wrote in
> news:droleary.usenet-3F49D6.07224916112006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net:
>
>> While it
>> is cute to know your speed at any particular second, there really isn't
>> a lot you can *do* with that information while you're sitting on the
>> bike.
>>
>
> I don't agree with that statement. I find that the computer an sometimes be
> a good tool for helping to push me a little harder. There's a half mile
> long hill that is at the end of most of my rides (unless I approach home
> from the opposite direction.) I find that I will climb it faster if I set a
> speed that I refuse to let myself fall under. It's fun to see if I can make
> that speed creep up a bit as my conditioning improves.
>
> Cheers,
> David
So, hot shot, when do you enter the TdF?
Bill Baka
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 12:06:41
From: Solvang Cyclist
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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Bill <bbaka@comcast.net > wrote in news:XNp7h.4667$yE6.2474
@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com:
> So, hot shot, when do you enter the TdF?
>
Ain't gonna happen. (Nor did I ever imply anything even close to that.)
The only thing Lance and I have in common is that we both got back on our
bikes after cancer treatments. But even that is a VERY weak comparison. He
when through FAR more with his cancer than I did, and obviously came back
FAR stronger. Besides, even if I wasn't 46, I never had any dreams of being
a racer. My races are with myself to achieve "personal bests". I see
nothing wrong with using a bike computer to help me assess that - and while
I might take the time to post about it, I certainly don't feel compelled to
justify it to anyone.
Cheers,
David
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 22:21:25
From: Bill
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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Solvang Cyclist wrote:
> Bill <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote in news:XNp7h.4667$yE6.2474
> @newssvr14.news.prodigy.com:
>
>> So, hot shot, when do you enter the TdF?
>>
>
> Ain't gonna happen. (Nor did I ever imply anything even close to that.)
>
> The only thing Lance and I have in common is that we both got back on our
> bikes after cancer treatments. But even that is a VERY weak comparison. He
> when through FAR more with his cancer than I did, and obviously came back
> FAR stronger. Besides, even if I wasn't 46, I never had any dreams of being
> a racer. My races are with myself to achieve "personal bests". I see
> nothing wrong with using a bike computer to help me assess that - and while
> I might take the time to post about it, I certainly don't feel compelled to
> justify it to anyone.
>
> Cheers,
> David
I don't even worry about "personal bests" and rarely get into a race
with anyone. Just riding, even if only 12-15 MPH with a kid in tow, or
15-17 MPH by myself is way better than being a couch potato and keeps me
away from the doctor. I am "Grandpa" to all the kids at 58, but as long
as they have to keep up with me I must be doing something right. My
doctor almost wonders why I even bother to see him since the riding has
kept me so healthy. No need to race if I can keep my heart rate around
140 for 3 or 4 hours on a long ride. Climbing a mountain can put me
above 170 for a bit, but it isn't a race, just an increased effort to climb.
Either way, it keeps me healthy, and that is the point. I could not
possibly spend 3 hours in a gym without going absolutely nuts. One job
gave me a free membership as a perk and when I went it was too weird
being checked out by the younger women there. Maybe that is the new
place to look for some action or a "Sugar daddy", but I didn't like the
attention, ried like I am.
Bill Baka
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 11:19:54
From: Jeanne
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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Bill wrote:
> Solvang Cyclist wrote:
>> Bill <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote in news:XNp7h.4667$yE6.2474
>> @newssvr14.news.prodigy.com:
>>
>>> So, hot shot, when do you enter the TdF?
>>>
>>
>> Ain't gonna happen. (Nor did I ever imply anything even close to that.)
>>
>> The only thing Lance and I have in common is that we both got back on
>> our bikes after cancer treatments. But even that is a VERY weak
>> comparison. He when through FAR more with his cancer than I did, and
>> obviously came back FAR stronger. Besides, even if I wasn't 46, I
>> never had any dreams of being a racer. My races are with myself to
>> achieve "personal bests". I see nothing wrong with using a bike
>> computer to help me assess that - and while I might take the time to
>> post about it, I certainly don't feel compelled to justify it to anyone.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> David
>
> I don't even worry about "personal bests" and rarely get into a race
> with anyone. Just riding, even if only 12-15 MPH with a kid in tow, or
> 15-17 MPH by myself is way better than being a couch potato and keeps me
> away from the doctor. I am "Grandpa" to all the kids at 58, but as long
> as they have to keep up with me I must be doing something right. My
> doctor almost wonders why I even bother to see him since the riding has
> kept me so healthy. No need to race if I can keep my heart rate around
> 140 for 3 or 4 hours on a long ride. Climbing a mountain can put me
> above 170 for a bit, but it isn't a race, just an increased effort to
> climb.
> Either way, it keeps me healthy, and that is the point. I could not
> possibly spend 3 hours in a gym without going absolutely nuts. One job
> gave me a free membership as a perk and when I went it was too weird
> being checked out by the younger women there. Maybe that is the new
> place to look for some action or a "Sugar daddy", but I didn't like the
> attention, ried like I am.
> Bill Baka
58 isn't THAT old. I (and several other people) got blown away by a
*70* year old on a bike trip to Baja California. He wasn't particularly
fast but he sure was consistent. He just put one foot down after the
other and just kept going.
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 17:38:00
From: Bill
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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Jeanne wrote:
>
> 58 isn't THAT old. I (and several other people) got blown away by a
> *70* year old on a bike trip to Baja California. He wasn't particularly
> fast but he sure was consistent. He just put one foot down after the
> other and just kept going.
>
I know 58 isn't that old, but my wife thinks I should "Act my age.",
whatever that means. Age is all relative anyway. When I was 15 and
THOUGHT I was in great shape I got blown away by 2 old men of 29 on a
2,000 foot hill climb. I think I will keep riding as long as I can stand.
Bill Baka
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 18:14:09
From: nash
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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Yet, alot of what you are comparing may be just experience.
The more the age just maybe the more the experience but not necessarily.
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 19:36:12
From: Ken C. M.
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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Bill wrote:
> Solvang Cyclist wrote:
>> Bill <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote in news:XNp7h.4667$yE6.2474
>> @newssvr14.news.prodigy.com:
>>
>>> So, hot shot, when do you enter the TdF?
>>>
>>
>> Ain't gonna happen. (Nor did I ever imply anything even close to that.)
>>
>> The only thing Lance and I have in common is that we both got back on
>> our bikes after cancer treatments. But even that is a VERY weak
>> comparison. He when through FAR more with his cancer than I did, and
>> obviously came back FAR stronger. Besides, even if I wasn't 46, I
>> never had any dreams of being a racer. My races are with myself to
>> achieve "personal bests". I see nothing wrong with using a bike
>> computer to help me assess that - and while I might take the time to
>> post about it, I certainly don't feel compelled to justify it to anyone.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> David
>
> I don't even worry about "personal bests" and rarely get into a race
> with anyone. Just riding, even if only 12-15 MPH with a kid in tow, or
> 15-17 MPH by myself is way better than being a couch potato and keeps me
> away from the doctor. I am "Grandpa" to all the kids at 58, but as long
> as they have to keep up with me I must be doing something right. My
> doctor almost wonders why I even bother to see him since the riding has
> kept me so healthy. No need to race if I can keep my heart rate around
> 140 for 3 or 4 hours on a long ride. Climbing a mountain can put me
> above 170 for a bit, but it isn't a race, just an increased effort to
> climb.
> Either way, it keeps me healthy, and that is the point. I could not
> possibly spend 3 hours in a gym without going absolutely nuts. One job
> gave me a free membership as a perk and when I went it was too weird
> being checked out by the younger women there. Maybe that is the new
> place to look for some action or a "Sugar daddy", but I didn't like the
> attention, ried like I am.
> Bill Baka
Heck yeah Bill. I just hope I am able to still be riding when I get to
be your age, in about 20 something years. And I agree with the gym
comment, I can't see myself in a gym for that long either. It seems to
stagnant, I guess thats because I like to keep moving and have the
scenery change all the time.
Ken
--
The bicycle is just as good company as most husbands and, when it gets
old and shabby, a woman can dispose of it and get a new one without
shocking the entire community. ~Ann Strong
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Date: 20 Nov 2006 03:43:21
From: Bill
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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Ken C. M. wrote:
> Bill wrote:
>> I don't even worry about "personal bests" and rarely get into a race
>> with anyone. Just riding, even if only 12-15 MPH with a kid in tow, or
>> 15-17 MPH by myself is way better than being a couch potato and keeps
>> me away from the doctor. I am "Grandpa" to all the kids at 58, but as
>> long as they have to keep up with me I must be doing something right.
>> My doctor almost wonders why I even bother to see him since the riding
>> has kept me so healthy. No need to race if I can keep my heart rate
>> around 140 for 3 or 4 hours on a long ride. Climbing a mountain can
>> put me above 170 for a bit, but it isn't a race, just an increased
>> effort to climb.
>> Either way, it keeps me healthy, and that is the point. I could not
>> possibly spend 3 hours in a gym without going absolutely nuts. One job
>> gave me a free membership as a perk and when I went it was too weird
>> being checked out by the younger women there. Maybe that is the new
>> place to look for some action or a "Sugar daddy", but I didn't like
>> the attention, ried like I am.
>> Bill Baka
>
> Heck yeah Bill. I just hope I am able to still be riding when I get to
> be your age, in about 20 something years. And I agree with the gym
> comment, I can't see myself in a gym for that long either.
Even though the girls were easy on the eyes there is only so much you
can do in a gym before you start bringing your bike to work.
It seems to
> stagnant, I guess thats because I like to keep moving and have the
> scenery change all the time.
>
> Ken
I got stuck today with taking my 5 year old grandson on a ride to the
park so that would not have counted as exercise but I got lucky. The
parks department put up a pile of wood chips that the local 13 year old
boys were using to try to catch a little air time. Me, the old guy,
managed to get way more air than any of them by going back about 200
feet and getting up to over 20 MPH before hitting the hill. No wipe
outs, but some embarrassed boys that I beat them at their own game.
That made my day.
And the roadies wonder why I stick to my mountain bikes???
Not much good road around here.
Plenty of dirt paths though.
BTW, I plan on still doing it in another 20 years, and running too.
Just being able to do it while my contemporaries can't is enough to make
me smile while working up a sweat. Some of my younger couch potato
friends have already kicked the bucket, and that is enough to keep me
motivated.
Bill Baka
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Date: 19 Nov 2006 13:15:52
From: Ken C. M.
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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Solvang Cyclist wrote:
> Bill <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote in news:XNp7h.4667$yE6.2474
> @newssvr14.news.prodigy.com:
>
>> So, hot shot, when do you enter the TdF?
>>
>
> Ain't gonna happen. (Nor did I ever imply anything even close to that.)
>
> The only thing Lance and I have in common is that we both got back on our
> bikes after cancer treatments. But even that is a VERY weak comparison. He
> when through FAR more with his cancer than I did, and obviously came back
> FAR stronger. Besides, even if I wasn't 46, I never had any dreams of being
> a racer. My races are with myself to achieve "personal bests". I see
> nothing wrong with using a bike computer to help me assess that - and while
> I might take the time to post about it, I certainly don't feel compelled to
> justify it to anyone.
Interesting point about racing yourself. I have almost given up trying
to compare my performance to others. And you made a good point about the
info from a cycle computer being good to compare your rides. But some
probably me included spend too much time looking at the darn things. I
think the only thing that really matters (to me) is average speed, total
distance, and time elapsed. All of which can be taken off the computer
at the end of the ride. So most likely I will be mounting the
cyclo-computer out of sight, unless I am going out on tour perhaps.
Ken
--
The bicycle is just as good company as most husbands and, when it gets
old and shabby, a woman can dispose of it and get a new one without
shocking the entire community. ~Ann Strong
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Date: 17 Nov 2006 09:04:41
From: Doc O'Leary
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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In article <Xns987DCA0A3799BnewsNOshierSPAMcom@216.196.97.136 >,
Solvang Cyclist <news@NOshierSPAM.com > wrote:
> Doc O'Leary <droleary.usenet@4q2006.subsume.com> wrote in
> news:droleary.usenet-3F49D6.07224916112006@sn-ip.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net:
>
> > While it
> > is cute to know your speed at any particular second, there really isn't
> > a lot you can *do* with that information while you're sitting on the
> > bike.
> >
>
> I don't agree with that statement. I find that the computer an sometimes be
> a good tool for helping to push me a little harder. There's a half mile
> long hill that is at the end of most of my rides (unless I approach home
> from the opposite direction.) I find that I will climb it faster if I set a
> speed that I refuse to let myself fall under. It's fun to see if I can make
> that speed creep up a bit as my conditioning improves.
If you want to know how your speed varies over time, you look at the GPS
record. It's not even like you have to take a GPS with you on every
ride, either. I maintains that is a "log book" measurement and not
something that is instantly useful.
You don't need a speedometer to tell you to push harder up a hill; you
just push harder if you can. That is, why not simply *assume* you're
going too slow and step it up? If anything, a computer makes you slack
off because you have set a slow speed in your mind. So you may not drop
below it, but your mind is still target fixated on a minimum instead of
looking to go as fast as possible.
Just put a sticky on your handle bars that says "Too Slow" if you need a
reminder to look down at. :-)
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Date: 15 Nov 2006 16:59:13
From: Paul Hobson
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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Ken C. M. wrote:
[snip]
> I set off riding and it felt kind of strange to glance down to where the
> cycle computer used to be and not see it. But after a couple of time I
> realized that I spent too much time looking at the darn thing. And after
> a bit more I found that riding without it was actually more fun. I mean
> I just rode at a speed / cadence that felt comfortable, probably to slow
> on the overall speed but at a reasonable cadence. And I just rode until
> I got home again. How long did it take me? I don't know. What was my
> average speed? I have know idea. Did I enjoy the ride. Yes. I may go
> without a computer on the 'bent. It's still a fun bike to ride. Even if
> I don't have all the "important" information that the cycle computer
> gives me.
I still don't understand why people have those things at all.
\\paul
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Date: 15 Nov 2006 17:49:20
From: Ken C. M.
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
|
Paul Hobson wrote:
> Ken C. M. wrote:
> [snip]
>> I set off riding and it felt kind of strange to glance down to where
>> the cycle computer used to be and not see it. But after a couple of
>> time I realized that I spent too much time looking at the darn thing.
>> And after a bit more I found that riding without it was actually more
>> fun. I mean I just rode at a speed / cadence that felt comfortable,
>> probably to slow on the overall speed but at a reasonable cadence. And
>> I just rode until I got home again. How long did it take me? I don't
>> know. What was my average speed? I have know idea. Did I enjoy the
>> ride. Yes. I may go without a computer on the 'bent. It's still a fun
>> bike to ride. Even if I don't have all the "important" information
>> that the cycle computer gives me.
>
> I still don't understand why people have those things at all.
> \\paul
I understand why you might want to have some stuff for the information.
But I might go without it on the 'bent. I have a road bike with that
info being fed into my mind when I want to know how far, how fast etc,
etc, etc.
Ken
--
The bicycle is just as good company as most husbands and, when it gets
old and shabby, a woman can dispose of it and get a new one without
shocking the entire community. ~Ann Strong
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 11:27:26
From: Roger Zoul
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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Ken C. M. wrote:
:: Paul Hobson wrote:
::: Ken C. M. wrote:
::: [snip]
:::: I set off riding and it felt kind of strange to glance down to
:::: where the cycle computer used to be and not see it. But after a
:::: couple of time I realized that I spent too much time looking at
:::: the darn thing. And after a bit more I found that riding without
:::: it was actually more fun. I mean I just rode at a speed / cadence
:::: that felt comfortable, probably to slow on the overall speed but
:::: at a reasonable cadence. And I just rode until I got home again.
:::: How long did it take me? I don't know. What was my average speed?
:::: I have know idea. Did I enjoy the ride. Yes. I may go without a
:::: computer on the 'bent. It's still a fun bike to ride. Even if I
:::: don't have all the "important" information that the cycle computer
:::: gives me.
:::
::: I still don't understand why people have those things at all.
::: \\paul
::
:: I understand why you might want to have some stuff for the
:: information. But I might go without it on the 'bent. I have a road
:: bike with that info being fed into my mind when I want to know how
:: far, how fast etc, etc, etc.
::
What about touring? If you tour on the 'bent it might be good to have that
info...
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 11:32:35
From: Ken C. M.
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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Roger Zoul wrote:
> Ken C. M. wrote:
> :: Paul Hobson wrote:
> ::: Ken C. M. wrote:
> ::: [snip]
> :::: I set off riding and it felt kind of strange to glance down to
> :::: where the cycle computer used to be and not see it. But after a
> :::: couple of time I realized that I spent too much time looking at
> :::: the darn thing. And after a bit more I found that riding without
> :::: it was actually more fun. I mean I just rode at a speed / cadence
> :::: that felt comfortable, probably to slow on the overall speed but
> :::: at a reasonable cadence. And I just rode until I got home again.
> :::: How long did it take me? I don't know. What was my average speed?
> :::: I have know idea. Did I enjoy the ride. Yes. I may go without a
> :::: computer on the 'bent. It's still a fun bike to ride. Even if I
> :::: don't have all the "important" information that the cycle computer
> :::: gives me.
> :::
> ::: I still don't understand why people have those things at all.
> ::: \\paul
> ::
> :: I understand why you might want to have some stuff for the
> :: information. But I might go without it on the 'bent. I have a road
> :: bike with that info being fed into my mind when I want to know how
> :: far, how fast etc, etc, etc.
> ::
>
> What about touring? If you tour on the 'bent it might be good to have that
> info...
>
>
Oh know I don't think I would tour on any bike with out a cyclo
computer, or maybe just go with a handheld gps device. I didn't get to
do any touring this year. Maybe one in south Florida after the first on
the year.
Ken
--
The bicycle is just as good company as most husbands and, when it gets
old and shabby, a woman can dispose of it and get a new one without
shocking the entire community. ~Ann Strong
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 16:42:09
From: Bill
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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Ken C. M. wrote:
> Roger Zoul wrote:
>> What about touring? If you tour on the 'bent it might be good to have
>> that info...
>>
>>
> Oh know I don't think I would tour on any bike with out a cyclo
> computer, or maybe just go with a handheld gps device. I didn't get to
> do any touring this year. Maybe one in south Florida after the first on
> the year.
>
> Ken
A bent might even interest me for strictly on road mileage since it
might alleviate the numb hands and sore 40 mile plus butt.
Bill Baka
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 11:57:43
From: Ken C. M.
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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Bill wrote:
> Ken C. M. wrote:
>> Roger Zoul wrote:
>>> What about touring? If you tour on the 'bent it might be good to
>>> have that info...
>>>
>>>
>> Oh know I don't think I would tour on any bike with out a cyclo
>> computer, or maybe just go with a handheld gps device. I didn't get to
>> do any touring this year. Maybe one in south Florida after the first
>> on the year.
>>
>> Ken
>
> A bent might even interest me for strictly on road mileage since it
> might alleviate the numb hands and sore 40 mile plus butt.
> Bill Baka
I find the 'bent to be a better / more fun bike to ride when a)it's
windy b)I plan on riding more than a couple of hours. I have no numb
fingers when riding the bent, like I do when I ride the flat bar hybrid.
But the same is true when riding the road bike with drop bars.
Ken
--
The bicycle is just as good company as most husbands and, when it gets
old and shabby, a woman can dispose of it and get a new one without
shocking the entire community. ~Ann Strong
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Date: 15 Nov 2006 13:37:53
From: gds
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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Fred wrote:
> "Ken C. M." <ken@up-yours-spammer.net> wrote in message
> news:GKmdnfinmuW548bYnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> > Not really a question here. Just something I noticed. I had a bit of time
> > this afternoon so I thought I would take the recumbent out for a ride, as
> > I haven't ridden it in a couple of weeks. I wasn't planning a long ride or
> > anything, just some spin time on one of the local routes. So that was the
> > plan. Now I "borrowed" the bottle cage and cycle computer off the 'bent to
> > put on the road bike a couple of weeks ago. So I set off riding and it
> > felt kind of strange to glance down to where the cycle computer used to be
> > and not see it. But after a couple of time I realized that I spent too
> > much time looking at the darn thing. And after a bit more I found that
> > riding without it was actually more fun. I mean I just rode at a speed /
> > cadence that felt comfortable, probably to slow on the overall speed but
> > at a reasonable cadence. And I just rode until I got home again. How long
> > did it take me? I don't know. What was my average speed? I have know idea.
> > Did I enjoy the ride. Yes. I may go without a computer on the 'bent. It's
> > still a fun bike to ride. Even if I don't have all the "important"
> > information that the cycle computer gives me.
>
> There's something in what you say alright. I have an old 18 speed that I
> ride occassionally - mainly for rough stuff or chucking on the car etc to
> save my 'good' bikes. (Well more expensive anyway)
> On the old bike I mounted the speedo on the seat post and it's reading off
> the back wheel. The only info I want is distance, and I can't even see that
> untill I'm finished and off the bike.
> Makes for enjoyable riding.
The strongest rider in our club- and one of the strongest in the area
doesn't own a cyclo computer, HR monitor, or power meter. He just
rides.And he rides a lot. It is often amusing when someone who is doing
serious "measured" training tries to take him on. I've heard him rek
something to the effect "I don't know how fast I was going but it was
faster than you." ;-)
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Date: 15 Nov 2006 17:46:16
From: Ken C. M.
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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gds wrote:
> Fred wrote:
>> "Ken C. M." <ken@up-yours-spammer.net> wrote in message
>> news:GKmdnfinmuW548bYnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>> Not really a question here. Just something I noticed. I had a bit of time
>>> this afternoon so I thought I would take the recumbent out for a ride, as
>>> I haven't ridden it in a couple of weeks. I wasn't planning a long ride or
>>> anything, just some spin time on one of the local routes. So that was the
>>> plan. Now I "borrowed" the bottle cage and cycle computer off the 'bent to
>>> put on the road bike a couple of weeks ago. So I set off riding and it
>>> felt kind of strange to glance down to where the cycle computer used to be
>>> and not see it. But after a couple of time I realized that I spent too
>>> much time looking at the darn thing. And after a bit more I found that
>>> riding without it was actually more fun. I mean I just rode at a speed /
>>> cadence that felt comfortable, probably to slow on the overall speed but
>>> at a reasonable cadence. And I just rode until I got home again. How long
>>> did it take me? I don't know. What was my average speed? I have know idea.
>>> Did I enjoy the ride. Yes. I may go without a computer on the 'bent. It's
>>> still a fun bike to ride. Even if I don't have all the "important"
>>> information that the cycle computer gives me.
>> There's something in what you say alright. I have an old 18 speed that I
>> ride occassionally - mainly for rough stuff or chucking on the car etc to
>> save my 'good' bikes. (Well more expensive anyway)
>> On the old bike I mounted the speedo on the seat post and it's reading off
>> the back wheel. The only info I want is distance, and I can't even see that
>> untill I'm finished and off the bike.
>> Makes for enjoyable riding.
>
> The strongest rider in our club- and one of the strongest in the area
> doesn't own a cyclo computer, HR monitor, or power meter. He just
> rides.And he rides a lot. It is often amusing when someone who is doing
> serious "measured" training tries to take him on. I've heard him rek
> something to the effect "I don't know how fast I was going but it was
> faster than you." ;-)
>
LOL That's good I like that one. Well the 'bent is a fun bike to just
ride in my opinion just because I think the view is better, and without
a cycle computer to be looking at all the time the ride seemed more
enjoyable. But maybe I am just strange.
Ken
--
The bicycle is just as good company as most husbands and, when it gets
old and shabby, a woman can dispose of it and get a new one without
shocking the entire community. ~Ann Strong
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 10:24:31
From: Fred
Subject: Re: A bike just to ride.
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"Ken C. M." <ken@up-yours-spammer.net > wrote in message
news:GKmdnfinmuW548bYnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> Not really a question here. Just something I noticed. I had a bit of time
> this afternoon so I thought I would take the recumbent out for a ride, as
> I haven't ridden it in a couple of weeks. I wasn't planning a long ride or
> anything, just some spin time on one of the local routes. So that was the
> plan. Now I "borrowed" the bottle cage and cycle computer off the 'bent to
> put on the road bike a couple of weeks ago. So I set off riding and it
> felt kind of strange to glance down to where the cycle computer used to be
> and not see it. But after a couple of time I realized that I spent too
> much time looking at the darn thing. And after a bit more I found that
> riding without it was actually more fun. I mean I just rode at a speed /
> cadence that felt comfortable, probably to slow on the overall speed but
> at a reasonable cadence. And I just rode until I got home again. How long
> did it take me? I don't know. What was my average speed? I have know idea.
> Did I enjoy the ride. Yes. I may go without a computer on the 'bent. It's
> still a fun bike to ride. Even if I don't have all the "important"
> information that the cycle computer gives me.
There's something in what you say alright. I have an old 18 speed that I
ride occassionally - mainly for rough stuff or chucking on the car etc to
save my 'good' bikes. (Well more expensive anyway)
On the old bike I mounted the speedo on the seat post and it's reading off
the back wheel. The only info I want is distance, and I can't even see that
untill I'm finished and off the bike.
Makes for enjoyable riding.
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