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Date: 29 Oct 2007 13:27:42
From: spdrecrd
Subject: A program to train young bike mechanics...
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Young Mechanics graduate from the Summer program at Recycle-A-Bicycle.
Next year's class is wide open, will your child learn bikes inside and
out through the program?
Read on about Recycle-A-Bicycle's training program:
http://pedalpushersonline.com/index.php?CID=1174
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Date: 03 Nov 2007 09:42:23
From: Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: A program to train young bike mechanics...
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spdrecrd??? wrote:
> Young Mechanics graduate from the Summer program at Recycle-A-Bicycle.
> Next year's class is wide open, will your child learn bikes inside and
> out through the program?
>
> Read on about Recycle-A-Bicycle's training program:
> http://pedalpushersonline.com/index.php?CID=1174
>
Do they teach greasing tapers before crank installation, or dry tapers?
Spoke tension "as high as the rim will bear", or set to manufacturers
specifications with a tensiometer?
Oil/grease or an adhesive such as Spoke Prep on the spoke threads?
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
When did ignorance of biology become a "family value"?
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Date: 01 Nov 2007 03:07:21
From: Luigi de Guzman
Subject: Re: A program to train young bike mechanics...
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On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 02:57:27 +0000, Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> I didn't really mean my comment all that seriously: I salute our
> bretheren who toil unceasingly in bike shops. But for most young people,
> you could hardly prepare them worse for their working lives if you gave
> them acting lessons.
The idea isn't necessarily to give them a trade. The idea is to get the
kids used to the idea of a job, and all the things that go with it:
showing up on time. Doing your work. Doing it right. Being
responsible. Following directions.
The aim is more work-ethic-formation rather than direct vocational
training.
-Luigi
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Luigi de Guzman
http://ouij.livejournal.com
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Date: 30 Oct 2007 21:02:25
From: nmp
Subject: Re: A program to train young bike mechanics...
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John Kane wrote:
> On Oct 30, 12:16 am, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca> wrote:
>> In article <1193689662.637547.14...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>>
>> spdrecrd <d...@pedalpushersonline.com> wrote:
>> > Young Mechanics graduate from the Summer program at
>> > Recycle-A-Bicycle. Next year's class is wide open, will your child
>> > learn bikes inside and out through the program?
>>
>> > Read on about Recycle-A-Bicycle's training program:
>> >http://pedalpushersonline.com/index.php?CID=1174
>>
>> Worst. Vocational training. Ever.
> Eh?
I was thinking the same thing: Eh? This isn't even vocational training,
it's just a summer activity. And isn't it nice that young people get a
chance to get acquainted with cyclery? How old are these kids, 12, 14?
They are just having fun with fixing bikes and learning skills at the
same time! I read the article, according to which some of the lads even
seem inspired to make a profession out of it. So if they are indeed
serious, they will probably choose the vocational training that will
allow them to become expert mechanics some day.
More motivated people in the bicycle industry can only be a good thing,
in any country around the world.
To discover that they can be good at something also gives young people a
sense of self worth and self respect (a little ego boost, sometimes much
needed) that may prevent some of them to make unwise decisions in their
lives. We all know there are *lots* of unwise decisions that urban
adolescents could make...
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Date: 31 Oct 2007 02:57:27
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: A program to train young bike mechanics...
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In article <47279be1$0$227$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl >,
nmp <address@is.invalid > wrote:
> John Kane wrote:
>
> > On Oct 30, 12:16 am, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca> wrote:
> >> In article <1193689662.637547.14...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
> >>
> >> spdrecrd <d...@pedalpushersonline.com> wrote:
> >> > Young Mechanics graduate from the Summer program at
> >> > Recycle-A-Bicycle. Next year's class is wide open, will your child
> >> > learn bikes inside and out through the program?
> >>
> >> > Read on about Recycle-A-Bicycle's training program:
> >> >http://pedalpushersonline.com/index.php?CID=1174
> >>
> >> Worst. Vocational training. Ever.
>
>
> > Eh?
>
> I was thinking the same thing: Eh? This isn't even vocational training,
> it's just a summer activity. And isn't it nice that young people get a
> chance to get acquainted with cyclery? How old are these kids, 12, 14?
> They are just having fun with fixing bikes and learning skills at the
> same time! I read the article, according to which some of the lads even
> seem inspired to make a profession out of it. So if they are indeed
> serious, they will probably choose the vocational training that will
> allow them to become expert mechanics some day.
"The seven week summer program prepares these very enthusiastic kids for
real jobs in bike shops, if that is what they choose."
> More motivated people in the bicycle industry can only be a good thing,
> in any country around the world.
>
> To discover that they can be good at something also gives young people a
> sense of self worth and self respect (a little ego boost, sometimes much
> needed) that may prevent some of them to make unwise decisions in their
> lives. We all know there are *lots* of unwise decisions that urban
> adolescents could make...
Heh. I think it's great these kids are learning bike mechanics, but I
was thinking more about the idea of training for a career that, in most
of the world, is a pretty seriously underappreciated and underpaid trade.
I say this as a person with a pretty serious dedication to bike
mechanics as a hobby! Like, seriously, I love bikes, I love bodging
bikes, and had I had the chance to do this program as a young team, I
likely would have jumped at it.
But as a job? Maybe sheet metal work instead?
I didn't really mean my comment all that seriously: I salute our
bretheren who toil unceasingly in bike shops. But for most young people,
you could hardly prepare them worse for their working lives if you gave
them acting lessons.
Or a creative writing program,
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"My scenarios may give the impression I could be an excellent crook.
Not true - I am a talented lawyer." - Sandy in rec.bicycles.racing
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Date: 30 Oct 2007 09:54:30
From: John Kane
Subject: Re: A program to train young bike mechanics...
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On Oct 30, 12:16 am, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca > wrote:
> In article <1193689662.637547.14...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>
> spdrecrd <d...@pedalpushersonline.com> wrote:
> > Young Mechanics graduate from the Summer program at Recycle-A-Bicycle.
> > Next year's class is wide open, will your child learn bikes inside and
> > out through the program?
>
> > Read on about Recycle-A-Bicycle's training program:
> >http://pedalpushersonline.com/index.php?CID=1174
>
> Worst. Vocational training. Ever.
>
> --
> Ryan Cousineau rcous...@sfu.cahttp://www.wiredcola.com/
> "My scenarios may give the impression I could be an excellent crook.
> Not true - I am a talented lawyer." - Sandy in rec.bicycles.racing
Eh?
John Kane, Kingston ON Canada
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Date: 30 Oct 2007 04:16:07
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: A program to train young bike mechanics...
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In article <1193689662.637547.14760@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com >,
spdrecrd <dan@pedalpushersonline.com > wrote:
> Young Mechanics graduate from the Summer program at Recycle-A-Bicycle.
> Next year's class is wide open, will your child learn bikes inside and
> out through the program?
>
> Read on about Recycle-A-Bicycle's training program:
> http://pedalpushersonline.com/index.php?CID=1174
Worst. Vocational training. Ever.
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"My scenarios may give the impression I could be an excellent crook.
Not true - I am a talented lawyer." - Sandy in rec.bicycles.racing
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