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Date: 09 Dec 2006 01:25:56
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Subject: Abus bordo / Specialized Wedlock - any good?
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I'm just buying a new bike and figure as i live in London, someone is
going to try and nick it. I've been looking at locks and I like these
folding types for their portability, but the fact that they aren't used
more often makes me nervous.
Pictures here
www.abus.de/us/main.asp?ScreenLang=us&sid=664760768102606091220068613717454&select=0104b11&artikel=4003318335679' >
abus bordo
http://www.epinions.com/bike-Locks-All-Wedlock/display_~reviews
Wedlock, dont think they make it any more
Could you break the abus? How? etc.
Cheers
Dom
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Date: 11 Dec 2006 08:02:57
From: talldom
Subject: Re: Abus bordo / Specialized Wedlock - any good?
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Its not top of the range or anything, but it will be v. nice and brand
new when it arrives, so theft risk is nightish in London (i think it
would probably still be bad if I was riding my rusting old Raleigh
boxer from 20 years ago)
Looking at the abus website I'm confident that its made of some pretty
solid stuff, they are a well respected lockmaker, and using unhardened
steel for the shackles would be a bit of a schoolboy error to earn
their "level 8/10 security". Obviously if someone knows that this is in
fact not true please pipe up!
My desire for this lock was based on the comment that i've seen a few
times, that "Professional thieves generally specialise in one type of
lock.." Given no-one has this type, i guess that means they wouldn't be
speicalising in it.
I intend to pair it with a cable lock, the thinking being that the
hardnend links would need a levering/prying/freezing and smashing tool
to open but would not be vulnerable to a bolt cropper, whereas the
cable lock would need a bolt cropper but would be too long to pry.
Tom Keats wrote:
> In article <1165680839.797841.121890@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
> "landotter" <landotter@gmail.com> writes:
> >
> > Unless your bike is very desirable, I find the best compromise is a
> > mini Ulock used like this:
> ^^^^
> > http://www.sheldonbrown.com/lock-strategy.html
>
> /Mini/ U-lock?!
>
> If I was to get another one, I'd want a wider one.
> All too often the one I've got is 1/32" too narrow
> to go around whatever I'm locking to.
>
> Of course, even with a wider U-lock I'd expect to
> still encounter the same problem.
>
> Maybe I should pack along a 10" double-milled bastard,
> and file-down that oversized stuff 'til my (and other
> people's) U-lock fits. Heck, maybe I'd be canonized
> for it by other riders who've also suffered that
> particular frustration.
>
>
> cheers, & it ain't how long it is -- it's how wide it is,
> Tom
>
> --
> Nothing is safe from me.
> Above address is just a spam midden.
> I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca
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Date: 10 Dec 2006 15:41:47
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: Abus bordo / Specialized Wedlock - any good?
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In article <1165680839.797841.121890@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com >,
"landotter" <landotter@gmail.com > writes:
>
> Unless your bike is very desirable, I find the best compromise is a
> mini Ulock used like this:
^^^^
> http://www.sheldonbrown.com/lock-strategy.html
/Mini/ U-lock?!
If I was to get another one, I'd want a wider one.
All too often the one I've got is 1/32" too narrow
to go around whatever I'm locking to.
Of course, even with a wider U-lock I'd expect to
still encounter the same problem.
Maybe I should pack along a 10" double-milled bastard,
and file-down that oversized stuff 'til my (and other
people's) U-lock fits. Heck, maybe I'd be canonized
for it by other riders who've also suffered that
particular frustration.
cheers, & it ain't how long it is -- it's how wide it is,
Tom
--
Nothing is safe from me.
Above address is just a spam midden.
I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca
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Date: 09 Dec 2006 17:02:37
From: Earl Bollinger
Subject: Re: Abus bordo / Specialized Wedlock - any good?
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<talldom@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1165656355.991253.144670@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> I'm just buying a new bike and figure as i live in London, someone is
> going to try and nick it. I've been looking at locks and I like these
> folding types for their portability, but the fact that they aren't used
> more often makes me nervous.
>
> Pictures here
>
> www.abus.de/us/main.asp?ScreenLang=us&sid=664760768102606091220068613717454&select=0104b11&artikel=4003318335679'>
> abus bordo
>
> http://www.epinions.com/bike-Locks-All-Wedlock/display_~reviews
> Wedlock, dont think they make it any more
>
> Could you break the abus? How? etc.
>
> Cheers
> Dom
>
Basically if a thief really wants your bike, nothing will stop them.
A battery powered grinder with a cutoff disc will make short work of any
lock system.
Even the immovable object you are locked to might be easier to cut through
too. Then work on the lock system later at your convenience.
Your best bet is to make it hard enough for most theives to go on and steal
a easier to steal bike elsewhere or nearby.
Thieves have been known to follow a rider home and burgle their abode later.
Easier to stral at home. So lock you bike up at home too.
The abus bordo link lock does look pretty good, about has hard as the good U
locks. So it would work OK.
The other one too. I do not know how they'd stand up to a hydraulic jack
attack though.
That is where you take a small hydraulic jack and stretch it out until
something breaks, the jack or the lock system or the immovable object.
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Date: 09 Dec 2006 08:13:59
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Abus bordo / Specialized Wedlock - any good?
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talldom@gmail.com wrote:
> I'm just buying a new bike and figure as i live in London, someone is
> going to try and nick it. I've been looking at locks and I like these
> folding types for their portability, but the fact that they aren't used
> more often makes me nervous.
>
> Pictures here
>
> www.abus.de/us/main.asp?ScreenLang=us&sid=664760768102606091220068613717454&select=0104b11&artikel=4003318335679'>
> abus bordo
>
> http://www.epinions.com/bike-Locks-All-Wedlock/display_~reviews
> Wedlock, dont think they make it any more
>
> Could you break the abus? How? etc.
It doesn't even say it's hardened steel, so give me five minutes with a
manual hacksaw, and I'm the new owner of your bike.
Locks simply slow a thief down. I use an OnGuard mini ulock with an
exta cable for the front wheel. Its basically just visual intimidation.
A really nice bolt cutter would have my front wheel in seconds, though
a used one might not cut the cable as fast, and a grinder would make
short work of the lock. Perhaps ten minutes.
The only locks which really intimidate are the hardened steel chains
that weigh several kilos made by Kryptonite and others.
Unless your bike is very desirable, I find the best compromise is a
mini Ulock used like this:
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/lock-strategy.html
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