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Date: 14 Aug 2006 09:07:27
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Subject: Australia Got It Right
Australians got it right


>>> Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on
>>> Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted
>>> radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.


>>> A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty
>>> to
>>> Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister
>>> John Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would
>>> face a crackdown.
>>> Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted
>>> that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if
>>> they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its
>>> laws
>>> were made by parliament. "If those are not your values, if you
>>> want
>>> a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then
>>> Australia
>>> is not for you", he said on national television.


>>> "I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws
>>> governing people in Australia: one the Australian law and another
>>> the Islamic law, that is false. If you can't agree with
>>> parliamentary law,
>>> independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have
>>> the opportunity
>>> to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then,
>>> that's a better option", Costello said.


>>> Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave,
>>> he
>>> said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move
>>> to
>>> the other country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told
>>> reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values
>>> should "clear off. Basically people who don't want to be
>>> Australians, and who don't want ! to live by Australian values and
>>> understand them, well then, they can basically clear off", he
>>> said.


>>> Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by
>>> saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques
>>> Quote: "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave
>>> It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are
>>> offending
>>> some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on
>>> Bali, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of
>>> Australians."


>>> "However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the
>>> 'politically correct' crowd began complaining about the
>>> possibility
>>> that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against
>>> immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking
>>> a
>>> better life by coming to Australia."
>>> "However, there are a few things that those who have recently come
>>> to
>>> our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand."
>>> "This idea of Australia being a multicultural community has served
>>> only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As
>>> Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own
>>> language and our own lifestyle."


>>> "This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles,
>>> trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought
>>> freedom"


>>> "We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese,
>>> Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish
>>> to
>>> become part of our society, Learn the language!"


>>> "Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian,
>>> right
>>> wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women,
>>> on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly
>>> documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls
>>> of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider
>>> another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of
>>> our culture."


>>> "We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we
>>> ask
>>> is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful
>>> enjoyment
>>> with us."


>>> "If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like " A Fair
>>> Go",
>>> then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this
>>> planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to
>>> change,
>>> and we really don't care how you did things where you came from.
>>> By
>>> all means, keep your culture, but do not force it on others.


>>> "This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will
>>> allow
>>> you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done
>>> complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our
>>> Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take
>>> advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO
>>> LEAVE'."


>>> "If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come
>>> here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted."


>>> Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves, Canadian citizens
>>> will
>>> find the backbone to start speaking and voting the same truths!!


>>> SEND THIS TO EVERYBODY YOU KNOW





 
Date: 14 Aug 2006 16:42:20
From: RobWoozle
Subject: Re: Australia Got It Right

bigjim@backpacker.com wrote:
> Australians got it right
>
>
> >>> Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on
> >>> Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted
> >>> radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.

<SNIP >

Yawn...don't try and portray Australians as racists and bigots. The
headline is misleading. It is not "Muslims out of Australia", but
rather "Muslims who want to live under Sharia law would be better off
out of Australia". Big difference.

Back to GI Joe now.....nothing to see here.

Wooz (in Australia)



 
Date: 14 Aug 2006 11:42:10
From: DUG
Subject: Re: Australia Got It Right
Nothing. Nothing at all goes thru their heads, that's why they do it.
WTF is this group coming to when GI Joe, an action figure with an empty
plastic head has more common sense than many of its posting members.

Actually, Da Box is no better or no worse now than in the "Good Ole
Days". Sure a lot of really kewl Joeheads have gone, but a bunch of us
have stayed and have been joined by new and maybe improved Joeheads.
It just seems like it was way better back then. It was just different.

Besides, 99 percent of you guys/girls/Tank are just FNGs compared to
me!! :).........................................................DUG


Trial and Error wrote:
> I'd really like to know what goes through the head of someone who reads
> "SEND THIS TO EVERYBODY YOU KNOW" and actually does it.
>
>
>
>
> <bigjim@backpacker.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:1155571647.276072.265800@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> > Australians got it right
> >
> >
> >>>> Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on
> >>>> Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted
> >>>> radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.
> >
> >
> >>>> A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty
> >>>> to
> >>>> Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister
> >>>> John Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would
> >>>> face a crackdown.
> >>>> Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted
> >>>> that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if
> >>>> they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its
> >>>> laws
> >>>> were made by parliament. "If those are not your values, if you
> >>>> want
> >>>> a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then
> >>>> Australia
> >>>> is not for you", he said on national television.
> >
> >
> >>>> "I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two
> >>>> laws
> >>>> governing people in Australia: one the Australian law and another
> >>>> the Islamic law, that is false. If you can't agree with
> >>>> parliamentary law,
> >>>> independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have
> >>>> the opportunity
> >>>> to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then,
> >>>> that's a better option", Costello said.
> >
> >
> >>>> Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave,
> >>>> he
> >>>> said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move
> >>>> to
> >>>> the other country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told
> >>>> reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values
> >>>> should "clear off. Basically people who don't want to be
> >>>> Australians, and who don't want ! to live by Australian values
> >>>> and
> >>>> understand them, well then, they can basically clear off", he
> >>>> said.
> >
> >
> >>>> Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday
> >>>> by
> >>>> saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques
> >>>> Quote: "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave
> >>>> It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are
> >>>> offending
> >>>> some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on
> >>>> Bali, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority
> >>>> of
> >>>> Australians."
> >
> >
> >>>> "However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the
> >>>> 'politically correct' crowd began complaining about the
> >>>> possibility
> >>>> that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against
> >>>> immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking
> >>>> a
> >>>> better life by coming to Australia."
> >>>> "However, there are a few things that those who have recently
> >>>> come
> >>>> to
> >>>> our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand."
> >>>> "This idea of Australia being a multicultural community has
> >>>> served
> >>>> only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As
> >>>> Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own
> >>>> language and our own lifestyle."
> >
> >
> >>>> "This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles,
> >>>> trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought
> >>>> freedom"
> >
> >
> >>>> "We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese,
> >>>> Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish
> >>>> to
> >>>> become part of our society, Learn the language!"
> >
> >
> >>>> "Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian,
> >>>> right
> >>>> wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and
> >>>> women,
> >>>> on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly
> >>>> documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the
> >>>> walls
> >>>> of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider
> >>>> another part of the world as your new home, because God is part
> >>>> of
> >>>> our culture."
> >
> >
> >>>> "We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we
> >>>> ask
> >>>> is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful
> >>>> enjoyment
> >>>> with us."
> >
> >
> >>>> "If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like " A Fair
> >>>> Go",
> >>>> then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this
> >>>> planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to
> >>>> change,
> >>>> and we really don't care how you did things where you came from.
> >>>> By
> >>>> all means, keep your culture, but do not force it on others.
> >
> >
> >>>> "This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will
> >>>> allow
> >>>> you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done
> >>>> complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our
> >>>> Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you
> >>>> take
> >>>> advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO
> >>>> LEAVE'."
> >
> >
> >>>> "If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come
> >>>> here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted."
> >
> >
> >>>> Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves, Canadian citizens
> >>>> will
> >>>> find the backbone to start speaking and voting the same truths!!
> >
> >
> >>>> SEND THIS TO EVERYBODY YOU KNOW
> >



 
Date: 14 Aug 2006 20:29:39
From: Trial and Error
Subject: Re: Australia Got It Right
I'd really like to know what goes through the head of someone who reads
"SEND THIS TO EVERYBODY YOU KNOW" and actually does it.




<bigjim@backpacker.com > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:1155571647.276072.265800@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> Australians got it right
>
>
>>>> Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on
>>>> Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted
>>>> radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.
>
>
>>>> A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty
>>>> to
>>>> Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister
>>>> John Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would
>>>> face a crackdown.
>>>> Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted
>>>> that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if
>>>> they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its
>>>> laws
>>>> were made by parliament. "If those are not your values, if you
>>>> want
>>>> a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then
>>>> Australia
>>>> is not for you", he said on national television.
>
>
>>>> "I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two
>>>> laws
>>>> governing people in Australia: one the Australian law and another
>>>> the Islamic law, that is false. If you can't agree with
>>>> parliamentary law,
>>>> independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have
>>>> the opportunity
>>>> to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then,
>>>> that's a better option", Costello said.
>
>
>>>> Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave,
>>>> he
>>>> said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move
>>>> to
>>>> the other country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told
>>>> reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values
>>>> should "clear off. Basically people who don't want to be
>>>> Australians, and who don't want ! to live by Australian values
>>>> and
>>>> understand them, well then, they can basically clear off", he
>>>> said.
>
>
>>>> Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday
>>>> by
>>>> saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques
>>>> Quote: "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave
>>>> It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are
>>>> offending
>>>> some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on
>>>> Bali, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority
>>>> of
>>>> Australians."
>
>
>>>> "However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the
>>>> 'politically correct' crowd began complaining about the
>>>> possibility
>>>> that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against
>>>> immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking
>>>> a
>>>> better life by coming to Australia."
>>>> "However, there are a few things that those who have recently
>>>> come
>>>> to
>>>> our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand."
>>>> "This idea of Australia being a multicultural community has
>>>> served
>>>> only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As
>>>> Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own
>>>> language and our own lifestyle."
>
>
>>>> "This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles,
>>>> trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought
>>>> freedom"
>
>
>>>> "We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese,
>>>> Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish
>>>> to
>>>> become part of our society, Learn the language!"
>
>
>>>> "Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian,
>>>> right
>>>> wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and
>>>> women,
>>>> on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly
>>>> documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the
>>>> walls
>>>> of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider
>>>> another part of the world as your new home, because God is part
>>>> of
>>>> our culture."
>
>
>>>> "We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we
>>>> ask
>>>> is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful
>>>> enjoyment
>>>> with us."
>
>
>>>> "If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like " A Fair
>>>> Go",
>>>> then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this
>>>> planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to
>>>> change,
>>>> and we really don't care how you did things where you came from.
>>>> By
>>>> all means, keep your culture, but do not force it on others.
>
>
>>>> "This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will
>>>> allow
>>>> you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done
>>>> complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our
>>>> Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you
>>>> take
>>>> advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO
>>>> LEAVE'."
>
>
>>>> "If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come
>>>> here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted."
>
>
>>>> Maybe if we circulate this amongst ourselves, Canadian citizens
>>>> will
>>>> find the backbone to start speaking and voting the same truths!!
>
>
>>>> SEND THIS TO EVERYBODY YOU KNOW
>