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Date: 07 Sep 2007 15:45:43
From: Fer
Subject: Barking dogs don't bite...
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This is an expression in the Dutch language... But I read bikers on the
Transamerica Trail have often problems with dogs. What do you think is
the best solution?
Thanks, Fer
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Date: 14 Sep 2007 04:34:23
From: Mike A Schwab
Subject: Re: Barking dogs don't bite...
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On Sep 7, 8:45 am, "Fer" <Hee...@t-online.de > wrote:
> This is an expression in the Dutch language... But I read bikers on the
> Transamerica Trail have often problems with dogs. What do you think is
> the best solution?
>
> Thanks, Fer
Yell loudly Get Off The Couch
If they live indoors, it may be the only negative words spoken to them
by thier owners.
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Date: 15 Sep 2007 08:22:40
From: Claire Petersky
Subject: Re: Barking dogs don't bite...
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"Mike A Schwab" <mike.a.schwab@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1189744463.031887.151520@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 7, 8:45 am, "Fer" <Hee...@t-online.de> wrote:
>> This is an expression in the Dutch language... But I read bikers on the
>> Transamerica Trail have often problems with dogs. What do you think is
>> the best solution?
>>
>> Thanks, Fer
>
> Yell loudly Get Off The Couch
>
> If they live indoors, it may be the only negative words spoken to them
> by thier owners.
I learned that in this newsgroup, and it works. "Get off the sofa!" might be
better in some regions of the US. It's just enough to confuse the dumb mutt
and slow him down so you can sprint away. Doesn't work for an attack dog,
but just the loopy dog in a rural area - sure.
--
Warm Regards,
Claire Petersky
http://www.bicyclemeditations.org/
See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky
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Date: 16 Sep 2007 12:16:08
From: Sir Thomas of Cannondale
Subject: Re: Barking dogs don't bite...
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If riding in Wellesley, Mass ..
It is get off the dog futon which was purchased at doggy world for $900
dollars..
Then:::
Shoot em as they turn around.
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"Claire Petersky" <cpetersky@mouse-potato.com > wrote in message
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> "Mike A Schwab" <mike.a.schwab@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1189744463.031887.151520@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
>> On Sep 7, 8:45 am, "Fer" <Hee...@t-online.de> wrote:
>>> This is an expression in the Dutch language... But I read bikers on the
>>> Transamerica Trail have often problems with dogs. What do you think is
>>> the best solution?
>>>
>>> Thanks, Fer
>>
>> Yell loudly Get Off The Couch
>>
>> If they live indoors, it may be the only negative words spoken to them
>> by thier owners.
>
>
> I learned that in this newsgroup, and it works. "Get off the sofa!" might
> be better in some regions of the US. It's just enough to confuse the dumb
> mutt and slow him down so you can sprint away. Doesn't work for an attack
> dog, but just the loopy dog in a rural area - sure.
>
> --
> Warm Regards,
>
> Claire Petersky
> http://www.bicyclemeditations.org/
> See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky
>
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Date: 11 Sep 2007 20:21:45
From:
Subject: Re: Barking dogs don't bite...
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On Sep 11, 2:53 pm, Fritz <kh6...@yahoo.com > wrote:
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> I would think about changing my bike ride route if I encountered the
> same dog every day on the same route. I would certainly make it known
> to the authorities that there is a proplem dog in the area. There are
> laws concerning loose dogs. At least in civilized areas of the
> country.
I agree about all the above except for the first sentence. I used to
make sure I'd repeatedly ride by aggressive dogs. I was ready for
them, and I'd eventually train them to let me (and my family, and
other cyclists) pass unmolested.
The only reason I don't do that now is because now I do live in a much
more civilized area of the country. It's no longer necessary.
- Frank Krygowski
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Date: 09 Sep 2007 01:29:44
From: Ted
Subject: Re: Barking dogs don't bite...
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I tried encouraging one once while going up hill, yelling "come on,
keep running, come on, good dog"... God, what a stupid dog. It
actually worked. He would stop while I was calling him looking rather
confused. Then when I would stop and turn my head away he would start
in again. I think the bone bomb sounds good.
Ted.
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Date: 10 Sep 2007 13:01:23
From: Fer
Subject: Re: Barking dogs don't bite...
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I think the bone bomb sounds good.
>
> Ted.
I first thought that the bone bomb was't meant serious...
Now I am afraid it is...
If the dogs are such big problem I wonder why there are no actions to
remove the dogs like criminals...
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Date: 08 Sep 2007 18:12:41
From:
Subject: Re: Barking dogs don't bite...
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On Sep 7, 11:27 pm, "Pat" <P...@starrynight.com > wrote:
> > Seems to me I remember a co-worker who related he carried a spray bottle
> > with either vinegar, bleach water or something like that to spray at
> > barking dogs who get too close for comfort. Their noses are so sensitive
> > the spray stops them in their tracks.
>
> ammonia. it'll certainly do the trick.
>
For a while, when living in doggy hell (northwest Georgia) I tried
swinging pumps, and swinging a car radio antenna. No good at all.
I then tried squirt guns and spray bottles filled with noxious
fluids. "Halt" brand dog spray in the pressurized can works far, far
better. It would have been my weapon of choice against Slowrider's
problem chihuahuas.
For really serious dog-problem areas (like NW Georgia) I found a few
rocks in the handlebar bag were even more effective. Better range,
less problems with wind, and often effective even if I missed. I
trained many dogs using that method.
It takes some practice to throw accurately from a moving bike, but the
practice was kind of fun.
But before a dog ever comes out, I can often out-psyche them by
glaring at them and visualizing intense doggy harm, and by yelling
sternly if necessary. They respond to self confidence as well as to
fear.
- Frank Krygowski
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Date: 09 Sep 2007 01:09:48
From: Ted
Subject: Re: Barking dogs don't bite...
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> ammonia. it'll certainly do the trick.
Please don't spray ammonia! Ammonia will cause a blinding corneal
burn. It is absolutely the worse thing to get in your eye. It will
remove the corneal epithelium, coagulate the limbal blood vessels so
the epithelium won't heal. It continues to penetrate the cornea
damaging the trabecular meshwork leading to intractable glaucoma. The
treatment is immediate voluminous irrigation, then combinations of
steroids and things then eventually a corneal transplant that will not
survive because of the vascularity of the host cornea. If it gets in
the dog's eyes he will be blind and miserable for quite a long time.
Be more compassionate. Use pepper spray or the bone bomb or
something.
Ted
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Date: 10 Sep 2007 08:28:59
From: Fritz
Subject: Re: Barking dogs don't bite...
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On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 01:09:48 -0000, Ted <plpfoot@gmail.com > wrote:
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>> ammonia. it'll certainly do the trick.
>
>Please don't spray ammonia! Ammonia will cause a blinding corneal
>burn. It is absolutely the worse thing to get in your eye. It will
>remove the corneal epithelium, coagulate the limbal blood vessels so
>the epithelium won't heal. It continues to penetrate the cornea
>damaging the trabecular meshwork leading to intractable glaucoma. The
>treatment is immediate voluminous irrigation, then combinations of
>steroids and things then eventually a corneal transplant that will not
>survive because of the vascularity of the host cornea. If it gets in
>the dog's eyes he will be blind and miserable for quite a long time.
>Be more compassionate. Use pepper spray or the bone bomb or
>something.
>
>Ted
I agree.
I have had very good success with using my water bottle and squirting
plain water at the dogs I have been chased by. They really hate
that. You don't have to hit them directly either. Just the sight of
the water stream can confuse and scare a mongrel bike chaser.
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Date: 09 Sep 2007 13:11:43
From: Clive George
Subject: Re: More distance per Calorie: Walk vrs Granny Gear Uphill?
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"Tom Keats" <tkeats2005@notmail.com > wrote in message
news:9me0cf.8s.ln@vcn.bc.ca...
>>> I'll tell ya this much -- I am so sick & tired of
>>> only being able to get 14-28T 6-spd freewheels.
>>> I wish I could get at least a 32.
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>> Have a look at building your own just replacing the 28 sprocket with a 32
>> or 34 nicked from a 7 speed Megarange. It'll be slightly thinner but
>> providing you use the six speed spacer it should work fine. You will
>> need two chain whips to disassemble the sprockets off the freewheel body
>> and probably better starting with new rather than trying to disassemble
>> one that has been tightened on by years of use.
>
> I'm talking about ready-to-go, old-style, screw-on
> HyperGlides. You can't take those things apart very
> easily, and when you do, an whole bunch of little
> bearing balls spill out and flow across your floor
> like baby spiders from a cactus that shouldn't have
> been smuggled-in from Mexico.
I've never met a freewheel - yes, the old-style type you're talking about -
where one couldn't remove the sprockets separately.
cheers,
clive
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Date: 07 Sep 2007 12:00:28
From: SlowRider
Subject: Re: Barking dogs don't bite...
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On Sep 7, 7:45 am, "Fer" <Hee...@t-online.de > wrote:
> This is an expression in the Dutch language... But I read bikers on the
> Transamerica Trail have often problems with dogs. What do you think is
> the best solution?
When I was little, my friend's dog once growled at me but wagged his
tail at the same time. I asked my friend if his dog would bite and he
said, "depends on which end you believe." :-)
I've had good luck with large dogs when I shout "Ayy!" in a menacing
voice -- the same way I get my own dogs to stop what they're doing.
The only real problem I've had with dogs was when I was attacked by
three "killer" Chihuahuas. They ran out in front of me on a suburban
street, so I stopped to avoid crashing and to allow the (clueless)
owner to corral them.
Only she didn't have any leashes. So we spent the next ~5 minutes
with me trying to head off down the street; then I'd have to stop to
avoid endo-ing over a dog that managed to escape; then she'd run
around like a headless chicken rounding them up again.
Those damned things didn't respond to anything -- not my "Ayy!", not
water from my bottles, not even when I waved my frame pump around.
Finally the owner got a grip on all three of them and I sprinted away
before she could lose one again.
-JR
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Date: 07 Sep 2007 18:30:59
From: Hud
Subject: Re: Barking dogs don't bite...
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"SlowRider" <jrogers80526@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:1189191628.755807.200060@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 7, 7:45 am, "Fer" <Hee...@t-online.de> wrote:
>> This is an expression in the Dutch language... But I read bikers on the
>> Transamerica Trail have often problems with dogs. What do you think is
>> the best solution?
>
> When I was little, my friend's dog once growled at me but wagged his
> tail at the same time. I asked my friend if his dog would bite and he
> said, "depends on which end you believe." :-)
>
> I've had good luck with large dogs when I shout "Ayy!" in a menacing
> voice -- the same way I get my own dogs to stop what they're doing.
> The only real problem I've had with dogs was when I was attacked by
> three "killer" Chihuahuas. They ran out in front of me on a suburban
> street, so I stopped to avoid crashing and to allow the (clueless)
> owner to corral them.
>
> Only she didn't have any leashes. So we spent the next ~5 minutes
> with me trying to head off down the street; then I'd have to stop to
> avoid endo-ing over a dog that managed to escape; then she'd run
> around like a headless chicken rounding them up again.
>
> Those damned things didn't respond to anything -- not my "Ayy!", not
> water from my bottles, not even when I waved my frame pump around.
> Finally the owner got a grip on all three of them and I sprinted away
> before she could lose one again.
>
>
> -JR
>
Seems to me I remember a co-worker who related he carried a spray bottle
with either vinegar, bleach water or something like that to spray at barking
dogs who get too close for comfort. Their noses are so sensitive the spray
stops them in their tracks.
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Date: 07 Sep 2007 21:27:05
From: Pat
Subject: Re: Barking dogs don't bite...
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> Seems to me I remember a co-worker who related he carried a spray bottle
> with either vinegar, bleach water or something like that to spray at
> barking dogs who get too close for comfort. Their noses are so sensitive
> the spray stops them in their tracks.
ammonia. it'll certainly do the trick.
>
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Date: 07 Sep 2007 14:47:36
From: Sir Thomas of Cannondale
Subject: Re: Barking dogs don't bite...
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I picked up a Doggy Bone Bomb.
This is a very popular device in the middle east.
Looks like a dog bone. But? It is a bomb.
It attaches to the handle bar ,, when the pouch starts to make his move, you
yell "here fido,, have a bone".
Throw the Doggy Bone Bomb to the dog. Fido will go for it every time. Once
he/she bites into the bone, you have
2 minutes to make your escape. Then it is KaPlow.
Kaboom,,
Don't hang out to see if the DBB works. I did once, and when Fido went
by-do, there were bits and pieces of
fur, paw, etc flying all over. The head landed on the car parked nearby.
What a mess.
If Fido grabs the DBB and runs into his owner's home, you should be well on
your way.
A fellow in England blew up half the neighborhood ..
hope this helps
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"Fer" <Heerda@t-online.de > wrote in message
news:fbrkmj$bmo$03$1@news.t-online.com...
> This is an expression in the Dutch language... But I read bikers on the
> Transamerica Trail have often problems with dogs. What do you think is the
> best solution?
>
> Thanks, Fer
>
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Date: 07 Sep 2007 08:49:41
From: Pat
Subject: Re: Barking dogs don't bite...
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> This is an expression in the Dutch language... But I read bikers on the
> Transamerica Trail have often problems with dogs. What do you think is the
> best solution?
>
> Thanks, Fer
I have had great success lately with picking up a water bottle and holding
it threatenly over my head in the position of preparing to throw the bottle
at the dog (while yelling "no" or "bad dog"). Evidently a dog who would
chase a cyclist has had rocks thrown at him and to the dog, this gesture
appears to indicate another rock is coming his way. I was amazed the first
time I did this, because I was thinking, "If I have to throw this bottle, I
just lost a good bottle because there is no way I am stopping to retrieve
it."
Pat in TX
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