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Date: 01 Oct 2006 02:24:53
From: Steven
Subject: Bicycling Safety Reminder

Yesterday I was biking in San Francisco and I took my 1st spill. It
wasn't bad but I was glad I was wearing a helmet and had gloves on. I
didn't think I needed gloves, but they provide one level of protection
you might not realize. If you fall down, your hands may not get as
scratched up/damaged if you wear gloves. My gloves only cover the palms
(fingerless) but they did the job. Some of the little circles in the
palms got worn off when I fell but it's ok. I only paid $9 for them (on
sale) at Performance.

I tore up my pants so now I'll have to get new ones. I'm thinking of
getting a motorcycle jacket (with padding in the shoulders, elbow, and
back area) but this jacket would only be used for bicycling and seems a
bit extreme. I never seen or heard of another bicyclist using
motorcycle jackets/clothing.

Steven

Date: 07 Oct 2006 09:48:14
From: Steven
Subject: Re: Bicycling Safety Reminder

The study may also not have taken into consideration other factors such
as local laws and restrictions. Here in Foster City, California the
ONLY reason I bought a helmet (initially) was because it is mandatory
in our city to have a helmet on while bicycling. I remember the 1st
week they put the rule into law. I was in middle school. About 2 dozen
students from grades 6-8 were all cited for riding without helmets as
they were riding into school that morning. They were all made late for
class and the mean policeman gave them all tickets. From that point on,
I knew that Foster City was serious about cracking down on bicyclists
without helmet.

Our sister city, San Mateo, has no rules in place. Or if they do, they
do not enforce it. If I were living in San Mateo I would likely not
ride a helmet since many of my trips are local commutes.

Steven

Date: 07 Oct 2006 17:36:06
From:
Subject: Re: Bicycling Safety Reminder

On 7 Oct 2006 09:48:14 -0700, "Steven" <mahadragon@gmail.com > wrote:

>The study may also not have taken into consideration other factors such
>as local laws and restrictions. Here in Foster City, California the
>ONLY reason I bought a helmet (initially) was because it is mandatory
>in our city to have a helmet on while bicycling. I remember the 1st
>week they put the rule into law. I was in middle school. About 2 dozen
>students from grades 6-8 were all cited for riding without helmets as
>they were riding into school that morning. They were all made late for
>class and the mean policeman gave them all tickets.
>

And how many of them gave up riding to school?

Date: 03 Oct 2006 22:10:01
From: Steven
Subject: Re: Bicycling Safety Reminder

> Your very first spill? How long have you been riding?> Regards,> Bob Hunt

I've been riding all my life. I've taken plenty of spills. Last week
was the 1st time I took a spill on my brand new Gary Fisher Zebrano. I
scratched it. =(

As far as gear goes, I've decided against a motorcycle jacket and
ordered a Sport Squall jacket from Land's End. It will serve me well
with the winter chill and wet coming. Very versatile and I can wear it
into the store after a hard ride and not look like a hell's angel.

And by the way, regarding that survey, trucks and buses are wider
vehicles (than passenger cars) which is the reason why they "travel"
closer to bicyclists. Going by this logic, trucks also "travel" closer
to adjacent traffic and also travel closer to parked cars as well. As
far as cars travelling closer to those with helmets, the survey did not
take into consideration the fact that most experienced cyclists (who
ride a daily commute) wear helmets and are more likely to ride in areas
where there is traffic. As opposed to the weekend bicyclist who will
most likely not even own a helmet because they are too expensive and/or
they figure they go riding so infrequently it's not worth it.

Steven

Date: 04 Oct 2006 10:13:10
From: Dane Buson
Subject: Re: Bicycling Safety Reminder

Steven <mahadragon@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> As far as cars travelling closer to those with helmets, the survey did
> not take into consideration the fact that most experienced cyclists
> (who ride a daily commute) wear helmets and are more likely to ride in
> areas where there is traffic. As opposed to the weekend bicyclist who
> will most likely not even own a helmet because they are too expensive
> and/or they figure they go riding so infrequently it's not worth it.

Actually in my experience, I've found the direct opposite to be true.
The only people I see without helmets are utility cyclists and people
who are out cycling everyday. The weekend cyclists invariably have
helmets. Of course the MHL here probably has something to do with that.

:-(

--
Dane Buson - sigdane@unixbigots.org
"But what we need to know is, do people want nasally-insertable computers?"

Date: 04 Oct 2006 18:03:13
From:
Subject: Re: Bicycling Safety Reminder

On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 10:13:10 -0700, Dane Buson <dane@unseen.edu > wrote:

>Steven <mahadragon@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> As far as cars travelling closer to those with helmets, the survey did
>> not take into consideration the fact that most experienced cyclists
>> (who ride a daily commute) wear helmets and are more likely to ride in
>> areas where there is traffic. As opposed to the weekend bicyclist who
>> will most likely not even own a helmet because they are too expensive
>> and/or they figure they go riding so infrequently it's not worth it.
>
>Actually in my experience, I've found the direct opposite to be true.
>The only people I see without helmets are utility cyclists and people
>who are out cycling everyday. The weekend cyclists invariably have
>helmets. Of course the MHL here probably has something to do with that.
>

Might well be that the people who cycle everyday have a better idea of
the (lack of) danger associated with cycling, and those who only go
out on the weekends are the ones who believe the propaganda of the
pro-helmet and pro MHL whackos.

Date: 03 Oct 2006 15:22:29
From: Bob
Subject: Re: Bicycling Safety Reminder

Steven wrote:
> Yesterday I was biking in San Francisco and I took my 1st spill.

Your very first spill? How long have you been riding?

Regards,
Bob Hunt

Date: 01 Oct 2006 19:37:35
From:
Subject: Re: Bicycling Safety Reminder

Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
> obs@ozarkbicycleservice.com wrote:
> > ...Other than that, I am anti-MHL and you know it, you lying liar....
>
> Are there truthful liars?
>

George II, The Head Dick, Rummy, Condisleeeezi......need I go on? They
always lie, and that's the truth. ;-)

Date: 01 Oct 2006 15:23:34
From: Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: Bicycling Safety Reminder

obs@ozarkbicycleservice.com wrote:
> ...Other than that, I am anti-MHL and you know it, you lying liar....

Are there truthful liars?

--
Tom Sherman - Here, not there.

Date: 01 Oct 2006 16:02:11
From: Luke
Subject: Re: Bicycling Safety Reminder

In article <1159694693.333691.307790@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com >,
Steven <mahadragon@gmail.com > wrote:

> I tore up my pants so now I'll have to get new ones. I'm thinking of
> getting a motorcycle jacket (with padding in the shoulders, elbow, and
> back area) but this jacket would only be used for bicycling and seems a
> bit extreme. I never seen or heard of another bicyclist using
> motorcycle jackets/clothing.

A (leather) motorcycle jacket is about the most ill suited addition to
your kit you can suggest. It's heavy and will retain sweat. I
anticipate its ameliorating effects in accidents will be more than
negated by its tendency to encourage sweaty rides and, possibly, chills
afterwards.

Unless you're crashing on a regular basis -- and if you are, better
that you look into the causes -- I wouldn't entertain changing the kit.

Luke

Date: 01 Oct 2006 10:06:33
From:
Subject: Re: Bicycling Safety Reminder

jtay...@NOSPAM.hfx.andara.com wrote:
> On 1 Oct 2006 09:46:41 -0700, obs@ozarkbicycleservice.com wrote:
>
> >
> >jtaylor@NOSPAM.hfx.andara.com wrote:
> >> On 1 Oct 2006 09:09:24 -0700, obs@ozarkbicycleservice.com wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >jtaylor@NOSPAM.hfx.andara.com wrote:
> >> >> On 1 Oct 2006 07:34:06 -0700, obs@ozarkbicycleservice.com wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >jtaylor@NOSPAM.hfx.andara.com wrote:
> >> >> >> On 1 Oct 2006 02:24:53 -0700, "Steven" <mahadragon@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >Yesterday I was biking in San Francisco and I took my 1st spill. It
> >> >> >> >wasn't bad but I was glad I was wearing a helmet
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Are you aware that wearing a helmet increases the risk that you will
> >> >> >> be hit by a motorcar?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >You should also be aware that jtaylor is as mad as a hatter!
> >> >>
> >> >> Ozark is on record as being in favour of MHL's
> >> >
> >> >Prove it!
> >> >
> >>
> >> Wed Sep 6 2006 10:30 p.m. post in rec.bicycles.misc by yourself:
> >>
> >> "I'd like one in your jurisdiction that was well and truly enforced,
> >> with time in the slammer for second time offenders.
> >>
> >
> >Yes, indeed, but just in your little jurisdiction. Sort of your own
> >private place in hell, as a reward for your lying, obnoxious, trolling
> >brhavior. Other than that, I am anti-MHL and you know it, you lying
> >liar.
> >
> >
> >> >
> >> >>- consider that as well
> >> >> as the fact that insults are a sign that the person employing them has
> >> >> no other support.
> >>
> >> I think you'll have to fall back on insult for support...
>
>
> I see you've taken my suggestion. Why are the pro-helmet zealots so
> upset when they are shown to be wrong?

You've proven nothing other than your own perchant to twist and
distort, you lying liar.

Date: 01 Oct 2006 09:46:41
From:
Subject: Re: Bicycling Safety Reminder

jtaylor@NOSPAM.hfx.andara.com wrote:
> On 1 Oct 2006 09:09:24 -0700, obs@ozarkbicycleservice.com wrote:
>
> >
> >jtaylor@NOSPAM.hfx.andara.com wrote:
> >> On 1 Oct 2006 07:34:06 -0700, obs@ozarkbicycleservice.com wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >jtaylor@NOSPAM.hfx.andara.com wrote:
> >> >> On 1 Oct 2006 02:24:53 -0700, "Steven" <mahadragon@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Yesterday I was biking in San Francisco and I took my 1st spill. It
> >> >> >wasn't bad but I was glad I was wearing a helmet
> >> >>
> >> >> Are you aware that wearing a helmet increases the risk that you will
> >> >> be hit by a motorcar?
> >> >
> >> >You should also be aware that jtaylor is as mad as a hatter!
> >>
> >> Ozark is on record as being in favour of MHL's
> >
> >Prove it!
> >
>
> Wed Sep 6 2006 10:30 p.m. post in rec.bicycles.misc by yourself:
>
> "I'd like one in your jurisdiction that was well and truly enforced,
> with time in the slammer for second time offenders.
>

Yes, indeed, but just in your little jurisdiction. Sort of your own
private place in hell, as a reward for your lying, obnoxious, trolling
brhavior. Other than that, I am anti-MHL and you know it, you lying
liar.

> >
> >>- consider that as well
> >> as the fact that insults are a sign that the person employing them has
> >> no other support.
>
> I think you'll have to fall back on insult for support...

Date: 01 Oct 2006 17:03:03
From:
Subject: Re: Bicycling Safety Reminder

On 1 Oct 2006 09:46:41 -0700, obs@ozarkbicycleservice.com wrote:

>
>jtaylor@NOSPAM.hfx.andara.com wrote:
>> On 1 Oct 2006 09:09:24 -0700, obs@ozarkbicycleservice.com wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >jtaylor@NOSPAM.hfx.andara.com wrote:
>> >> On 1 Oct 2006 07:34:06 -0700, obs@ozarkbicycleservice.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >jtaylor@NOSPAM.hfx.andara.com wrote:
>> >> >> On 1 Oct 2006 02:24:53 -0700, "Steven" <mahadragon@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Yesterday I was biking in San Francisco and I took my 1st spill. It
>> >> >> >wasn't bad but I was glad I was wearing a helmet
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Are you aware that wearing a helmet increases the risk that you will
>> >> >> be hit by a motorcar?
>> >> >
>> >> >You should also be aware that jtaylor is as mad as a hatter!
>> >>
>> >> Ozark is on record as being in favour of MHL's
>> >
>> >Prove it!
>> >
>>
>> Wed Sep 6 2006 10:30 p.m. post in rec.bicycles.misc by yourself:
>>
>> "I'd like one in your jurisdiction that was well and truly enforced,
>> with time in the slammer for second time offenders.
>>
>
>Yes, indeed, but just in your little jurisdiction. Sort of your own
>private place in hell, as a reward for your lying, obnoxious, trolling
>brhavior. Other than that, I am anti-MHL and you know it, you lying
>liar.
>
>
>> >
>> >>- consider that as well
>> >> as the fact that insults are a sign that the person employing them has
>> >> no other support.
>>
>> I think you'll have to fall back on insult for support...

I see you've taken my suggestion. Why are the pro-helmet zealots so
upset when they are shown to be wrong?

Date: 01 Oct 2006 09:09:24
From:
Subject: Re: Bicycling Safety Reminder

jtaylor@NOSPAM.hfx.andara.com wrote:
> On 1 Oct 2006 07:34:06 -0700, obs@ozarkbicycleservice.com wrote:
>
> >
> >jtaylor@NOSPAM.hfx.andara.com wrote:
> >> On 1 Oct 2006 02:24:53 -0700, "Steven" <mahadragon@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Yesterday I was biking in San Francisco and I took my 1st spill. It
> >> >wasn't bad but I was glad I was wearing a helmet
> >>
> >> Are you aware that wearing a helmet increases the risk that you will
> >> be hit by a motorcar?
> >
> >You should also be aware that jtaylor is as mad as a hatter!
>
> Ozark is on record as being in favour of MHL's

Prove it!

>- consider that as well
> as the fact that insults are a sign that the person employing them has
> no other support.

Date: 01 Oct 2006 16:19:17
From:
Subject: Re: Bicycling Safety Reminder

On 1 Oct 2006 09:09:24 -0700, obs@ozarkbicycleservice.com wrote:

>
>jtaylor@NOSPAM.hfx.andara.com wrote:
>> On 1 Oct 2006 07:34:06 -0700, obs@ozarkbicycleservice.com wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >jtaylor@NOSPAM.hfx.andara.com wrote:
>> >> On 1 Oct 2006 02:24:53 -0700, "Steven" <mahadragon@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Yesterday I was biking in San Francisco and I took my 1st spill. It
>> >> >wasn't bad but I was glad I was wearing a helmet
>> >>
>> >> Are you aware that wearing a helmet increases the risk that you will
>> >> be hit by a motorcar?
>> >
>> >You should also be aware that jtaylor is as mad as a hatter!
>>
>> Ozark is on record as being in favour of MHL's
>
>Prove it!
>

Wed Sep 6 2006 10:30 p.m. post in rec.bicycles.misc by yourself:

"I'd like one in your jurisdiction that was well and truly enforced,
with time in the slammer for second time offenders.

>
>>- consider that as well
>> as the fact that insults are a sign that the person employing them has
>> no other support.

I think you'll have to fall back on insult for support...

Date: 01 Oct 2006 07:42:55
From: SMS
Subject: Re: Bicycling Safety Reminder

Steven wrote:
> Yesterday I was biking in San Francisco and I took my 1st spill. It
> wasn't bad but I was glad I was wearing a helmet and had gloves on. I
> didn't think I needed gloves, but they provide one level of protection
> you might not realize. If you fall down, your hands may not get as
> scratched up/damaged if you wear gloves. My gloves only cover the palms
> (fingerless) but they did the job. Some of the little circles in the
> palms got worn off when I fell but it's ok. I only paid $9 for them (on
> sale) at Performance.
>
> I tore up my pants so now I'll have to get new ones. I'm thinking of
> getting a motorcycle jacket (with padding in the shoulders, elbow, and
> back area) but this jacket would only be used for bicycling and seems a
> bit extreme. I never seen or heard of another bicyclist using
> motorcycle jackets/clothing.

I was riding in San Francisco yesterday too. I think that I was one of
the few helmet-less riders. I found myself with some time between
appointments, and I had my Brompton in the trunk (normally we use public
transit and bikes in San Francisco, but the spousal unit just had a knee
operation for a ski injury, and can't bicycle yet). It was a beautiful
day along the waterfront, and the tourists were out in force. The
bicycle rental places were doing a booming business ($28 a day, as much
as renting a small car in many places!), and they include helmets with
all rentals. San Francisco is one place where I would normally wear a
helmet, not so much for the cars but because of the masses of bicycles
and pedestrians acting so unpredictably.

Date: 01 Oct 2006 15:42:49
From:
Subject: Re: Bicycling Safety Reminder

On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 07:42:55 -0700, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com >
wrote:

>Steven wrote:
>> Yesterday I was biking in San Francisco and I took my 1st spill. It
>> wasn't bad but I was glad I was wearing a helmet and had gloves on. I
>> didn't think I needed gloves, but they provide one level of protection
>> you might not realize. If you fall down, your hands may not get as
>> scratched up/damaged if you wear gloves. My gloves only cover the palms
>> (fingerless) but they did the job. Some of the little circles in the
>> palms got worn off when I fell but it's ok. I only paid $9 for them (on
>> sale) at Performance.
>>
>> I tore up my pants so now I'll have to get new ones. I'm thinking of
>> getting a motorcycle jacket (with padding in the shoulders, elbow, and
>> back area) but this jacket would only be used for bicycling and seems a
>> bit extreme. I never seen or heard of another bicyclist using
>> motorcycle jackets/clothing.
>
>I was riding in San Francisco yesterday too. I think that I was one of
>the few helmet-less riders. I found myself with some time between
>appointments, and I had my Brompton in the trunk (normally we use public
>transit and bikes in San Francisco, but the spousal unit just had a knee
>operation for a ski injury, and can't bicycle yet). It was a beautiful
>day along the waterfront, and the tourists were out in force. The
>bicycle rental places were doing a booming business ($28 a day, as much
>as renting a small car in many places!), and they include helmets with
>all rentals. San Francisco is one place where I would normally wear a
>helmet, not so much for the cars but because of the masses of bicycles
>and pedestrians acting so unpredictably.

Are you sure that is why people in California wear helmets?

It has nothing to do with the fact that a whole generation has grown
up under a law that requires that they wear them?

Date: 01 Oct 2006 14:40:17
From: Cathy Kearns
Subject: Re: Bicycling Safety Reminder

I think you might have been posting this on adrenaline. My 12 year old
daughter has been riding her bike to school and around (a sidewalkless) town
for years. Yesterday was the first time she felt in danger, and that was
because she and a friend were following a car down a narrow street, and the
car suddenly stopped, and she felt her choices were to drop the bike, hit
the car, or hit her friend, so she dropped the bike. She had very minor
scrapes, no blood, no tears in her clothes and her bike is fine, but she was
still shaking when she got home.

But, the resiliency of 12 years olds is amazing. She needed a few hugs and
was off on her bike again, to a friend's house. So, here's a few hugs.
Don't go overboard on the fear. An no, you don't need the motorcycle jacket
unless it's cold outside and you think motorcycle jackets make you look hot,
in which case go for it.

"Steven" <mahadragon@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1159694693.333691.307790@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Yesterday I was biking in San Francisco and I took my 1st spill. It
> wasn't bad but I was glad I was wearing a helmet and had gloves on. I
> didn't think I needed gloves, but they provide one level of protection
> you might not realize. If you fall down, your hands may not get as
> scratched up/damaged if you wear gloves. My gloves only cover the palms
> (fingerless) but they did the job. Some of the little circles in the
> palms got worn off when I fell but it's ok. I only paid $9 for them (on
> sale) at Performance.
>
> I tore up my pants so now I'll have to get new ones. I'm thinking of
> getting a motorcycle jacket (with padding in the shoulders, elbow, and
> back area) but this jacket would only be used for bicycling and seems a
> bit extreme. I never seen or heard of another bicyclist using
> motorcycle jackets/clothing.
>
> Steven
>

Date: 01 Oct 2006 22:24:00
From: bill
Subject: Re: Bicycling Safety Reminder

Cathy Kearns wrote:
> I think you might have been posting this on adrenaline. My 12 year old
> daughter has been riding her bike to school and around (a sidewalkless) town
> for years. Yesterday was the first time she felt in danger, and that was
> because she and a friend were following a car down a narrow street, and the
> car suddenly stopped, and she felt her choices were to drop the bike, hit
> the car, or hit her friend, so she dropped the bike. She had very minor
> scrapes, no blood, no tears in her clothes and her bike is fine, but she was
> still shaking when she got home.
>
> But, the resiliency of 12 years olds is amazing. She needed a few hugs and
> was off on her bike again, to a friend's house. So, here's a few hugs.
> Don't go overboard on the fear. An no, you don't need the motorcycle jacket
> unless it's cold outside and you think motorcycle jackets make you look hot,
> in which case go for it.

A motorcycle jacket would make him 'hot' within about 2 blocks of
starting to pedal. I used to have a WWII surplus aviator jacket and it
was so good I could sweat at zero degrees (F) if I put out any effort at
all. It was good for keeping me warm on a motorcycle down to the 30's,
that being my lower limit due to frozen hands.
My 2 cents on leather jackets.
Bill Baka
>
> "Steven" <mahadragon@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1159694693.333691.307790@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> Yesterday I was biking in San Francisco and I took my 1st spill. It
>> wasn't bad but I was glad I was wearing a helmet and had gloves on. I
>> didn't think I needed gloves, but they provide one level of protection
>> you might not realize. If you fall down, your hands may not get as
>> scratched up/damaged if you wear gloves. My gloves only cover the palms
>> (fingerless) but they did the job. Some of the little circles in the
>> palms got worn off when I fell but it's ok. I only paid $9 for them (on
>> sale) at Performance.
>>
>> I tore up my pants so now I'll have to get new ones. I'm thinking of
>> getting a motorcycle jacket (with padding in the shoulders, elbow, and
>> back area) but this jacket would only be used for bicycling and seems a
>> bit extreme. I never seen or heard of another bicyclist using
>> motorcycle jackets/clothing.
>>
>> Steven
>>
>
>

Date: 01 Oct 2006 07:34:06
From:
Subject: Re: Bicycling Safety Reminder

jtaylor@NOSPAM.hfx.andara.com wrote:
> On 1 Oct 2006 02:24:53 -0700, "Steven" <mahadragon@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Yesterday I was biking in San Francisco and I took my 1st spill. It
> >wasn't bad but I was glad I was wearing a helmet
>
> Are you aware that wearing a helmet increases the risk that you will
> be hit by a motorcar?

You should also be aware that jtaylor is as mad as a hatter!

Date: 01 Oct 2006 15:40:39
From:
Subject: Re: Bicycling Safety Reminder

On 1 Oct 2006 07:34:06 -0700, obs@ozarkbicycleservice.com wrote:

>
>jtaylor@NOSPAM.hfx.andara.com wrote:
>> On 1 Oct 2006 02:24:53 -0700, "Steven" <mahadragon@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Yesterday I was biking in San Francisco and I took my 1st spill. It
>> >wasn't bad but I was glad I was wearing a helmet
>>
>> Are you aware that wearing a helmet increases the risk that you will
>> be hit by a motorcar?
>
>You should also be aware that jtaylor is as mad as a hatter!

Ozark is on record as being in favour of MHL's - consider that as well
as the fact that insults are a sign that the person employing them has
no other support.

Date: 01 Oct 2006 12:15:10
From:
Subject: Re: Bicycling Safety Reminder

Date: 01 Oct 2006 22:32:33
From: greggery peccary
Subject: Re: Bicycling Safety Reminder

ROFL

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<jtaylor@NOSPAM.hfx.andara.com > wrote in message
news:racvh2p2gfslg4fdui04f08edieeqdlics@4ax.com...
> On 1 Oct 2006 02:24:53 -0700, "Steven" <mahadragon@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Yesterday I was biking in San Francisco and I took my 1st spill. It
> >wasn't bad but I was glad I was wearing a helmet
>
> Are you aware that wearing a helmet increases the risk that you will
> be hit by a motorcar?

Date: 01 Oct 2006 19:17:05
From: Ludmila Borgschatz-Thudpucker, MD
Subject: Re: Bicycling Safety Reminder

<jtaylor@NOSPAM.hfx.andara.com > wrote in message
news:racvh2p2gfslg4fdui04f08edieeqdlics@4ax.com...
> On 1 Oct 2006 02:24:53 -0700, "Steven" <mahadragon@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Yesterday I was biking in San Francisco and I took my 1st spill. It
>>wasn't bad but I was glad I was wearing a helmet
>
> Are you aware that wearing a helmet increases the risk that you will
> be hit by a motorcar?

Is there some other kind of car, presumably more likely to hit you if you
are not wearing a helmet?

Date: 01 Oct 2006 07:07:46
From: Earl Bollinger
Subject: Re: Bicycling Safety Reminder

"Steven" <mahadragon@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1159694693.333691.307790@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Yesterday I was biking in San Francisco and I took my 1st spill. It
> wasn't bad but I was glad I was wearing a helmet and had gloves on. I
> didn't think I needed gloves, but they provide one level of protection
> you might not realize. If you fall down, your hands may not get as
> scratched up/damaged if you wear gloves. My gloves only cover the palms
> (fingerless) but they did the job. Some of the little circles in the
> palms got worn off when I fell but it's ok. I only paid $9 for them (on
> sale) at Performance.
>
> I tore up my pants so now I'll have to get new ones. I'm thinking of
> getting a motorcycle jacket (with padding in the shoulders, elbow, and
> back area) but this jacket would only be used for bicycling and seems a
> bit extreme. I never seen or heard of another bicyclist using
> motorcycle jackets/clothing.
>
> Steven
>
As a first thought, I would suggest the downhill racer's attire, with the
pads and plates, and the full face helmet too.

Date: 01 Oct 2006 10:58:32
From: Gooserider
Subject: Re: Bicycling Safety Reminder

Date: 01 Oct 2006 09:44:43
From: R Brickston
Subject: Re: Bicycling Safety Reminder

On 1 Oct 2006 02:24:53 -0700, "Steven" <mahadragon@gmail.com > wrote:

>Yesterday I was biking in San Francisco and I took my 1st spill. It
>wasn't bad but I was glad I was wearing a helmet and had gloves on. I
>didn't think I needed gloves, but they provide one level of protection
>you might not realize. If you fall down, your hands may not get as
>scratched up/damaged if you wear gloves. My gloves only cover the palms
>(fingerless) but they did the job. Some of the little circles in the
>palms got worn off when I fell but it's ok. I only paid $9 for them (on
>sale) at Performance.
>
>I tore up my pants so now I'll have to get new ones. I'm thinking of
>getting a motorcycle jacket (with padding in the shoulders, elbow, and
>back area) but this jacket would only be used for bicycling and seems a
>bit extreme. I never seen or heard of another bicyclist using
>motorcycle jackets/clothing.
>
>Steven

I suggest, for you, a complete American style football outfit, except
for the cleats.