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Date: 30 Aug 2007 17:53:18
From: Daniel Norton
Subject: Bike Case from Performance Bike
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Anybody have comments or experience with this bike case?
http://tinyurl.com/2647ut
Thanks.
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Daniel
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Date: 02 Sep 2007 23:11:28
From: Lynne Fitz
Subject: Re: Bike Case from Performance Bike
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On Sep 1, 10:31 am, Daniel Norton <danor...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Aug 31, 8:03 pm, ::dom:: <dom.2w7...@no-
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> mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
> > The best thing I ever did was invest in a Ritchey Break Away.
>
> Yeah, I'm ready to get those couplings added to my training bike frame
> (I know someone who has done it with the same frame.) I'm hoping
> someone in Texas can do it (A shop in Wimberley used to do it, but it
> has closed.)
>
> More info on the couplings is here:
>
> http://www.sandsmachine.com/
>
> --
> Daniel
Write to Sands Machine and ask who they'd recommend close to you.
Although there are folks here that do it, I elected to ship my frame
to Bilenky in Philadelphia. They do many, many, many conversions.
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Date: 01 Sep 2007 17:31:16
From: Daniel Norton
Subject: Re: Bike Case from Performance Bike
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On Aug 31, 8:03 pm, ::dom:: <dom.2w7...@no-
mx.forums.cyclingforums.com > wrote:
> The best thing I ever did was invest in a Ritchey Break Away.
Yeah, I'm ready to get those couplings added to my training bike frame
(I know someone who has done it with the same frame.) I'm hoping
someone in Texas can do it (A shop in Wimberley used to do it, but it
has closed.)
More info on the couplings is here:
http://www.sandsmachine.com/
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Daniel
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Date: 31 Aug 2007 10:48:45
From: Lynne Fitz
Subject: Re: Airline Flight Baggage Rules, Charges and Fees
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As my bike and I have flown to/from Salt Lake on Southwest and to/from
Central Europe on United/Lufthansa - yes, they will take a bag heavier
than 50 lbs. However, you'll have to pay extra for it. I've got an
S&S coupled bike, so the case is within the baggage dimension limits
(I pay no "bicycle fee"). But the guy at the counter in Detroit was
annoying, because my bag weighed 48lbs in Budapest, yet, with nothing
additional in it, weighed 51 lbs in Detroit. I transferred the pedals
and chain in to my carry on. Each bag was weighed separately at every
airport.
On Aug 31, 10:07 am, Daniel Norton <danor...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Aug 31, 11:32 am, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <mik...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
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> > For International flights, UA is very strict about 50lbs.
>
> UA's Contract of Carriage reads "50 lbs." as the limit for their free
> carry-on baggage, with a 100-lb limit for checked baggage (with an
> excess charge over 50 lbs). They indicate no exception for
> international flights, but some foreign countries and/or airports may
> have additional restrictions.
>
> Over 50 lbs US might possibly charge $50 excess weight in additional
> to the $85 bicycle charge. Most airline's CoCs specifically allow
> excess weight for bike's but UA is silent, meaning it's probably the
> ticketing agent's call.
>
> UA does generally offer "excess valuation" up to $5000 for a fee, but
> they might decline it in some instances.
>
> UA's CoC is here: http://www.united.com/page/article/0,1360,2743,00.html
>
> --
> Daniel
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Date: 31 Aug 2007 17:07:10
From: Daniel Norton
Subject: Airline Flight Baggage Rules, Charges and Fees
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On Aug 31, 11:32 am, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <mik...@ix.netcom.com > wrote:
> For International flights, UA is very strict about 50lbs.
UA's Contract of Carriage reads "50 lbs." as the limit for their free
carry-on baggage, with a 100-lb limit for checked baggage (with an
excess charge over 50 lbs). They indicate no exception for
international flights, but some foreign countries and/or airports may
have additional restrictions.
Over 50 lbs US might possibly charge $50 excess weight in additional
to the $85 bicycle charge. Most airline's CoCs specifically allow
excess weight for bike's but UA is silent, meaning it's probably the
ticketing agent's call.
UA does generally offer "excess valuation" up to $5000 for a fee, but
they might decline it in some instances.
UA's CoC is here: http://www.united.com/page/article/0,1360,2743,00.html
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Daniel
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Date: 31 Aug 2007 16:23:19
From: Mike Jacoubowsky
Subject: Re: Airline Flight Baggage Rules, Charges and Fees
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> Over 50 lbs US might possibly charge $50 excess weight in additional
> to the $85 bicycle charge. Most airline's CoCs specifically allow
> excess weight for bike's but UA is silent, meaning it's probably the
> ticketing agent's call.
You got that right (that it's the agent's call). And you noticed that thc
CoC doesn't mention anything about *not* charging for bikes on International
flights, and yet that remains (for now) the policy. Well, sort of. The
ticket agents don't seem to know; they'll ask a supervisor or co-worker "Are
bikes still free on International flights?" to which the answer, for me, so
far, has been "As far as I know..."
One thing to keep in mind is that, for domestic flights, you're allowed the
bike, after paying the $85 fee (one-way), in addition to, not in place of,
your regular baggage allowance. So it could be worse.
--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
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Date: 04 Sep 2007 01:17:31
From: Mike Kruger
Subject: Re: Airline Flight Baggage Rules, Charges and Fees
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Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
> Doug Norton wrote:
>> Over 50 lbs US might possibly charge $50 excess weight in additional
>> to the $85 bicycle charge. Most airline's CoCs specifically allow
>> excess weight for bike's but UA is silent, meaning it's probably the
>> ticketing agent's call.
>
> You got that right (that it's the agent's call). And you noticed that
> thc CoC doesn't mention anything about *not* charging for bikes on
> International flights, and yet that remains (for now) the policy.
> Well, sort of. The ticket agents don't seem to know; they'll ask a
> supervisor or co-worker "Are bikes still free on International
> flights?" to which the answer, for me, so far, has been "As far as I
> know..."
A data point:
I talked to my daughter tonight, who flew United from New York to Shannon,
Ireland for a 10 day bike trip with her new Trek 1000 in August, 2007. She
was charged $100 each way for the bike, She only had 1 small carryon, since
she was going to be on the bike the entire time.
This was a surprise airport charge; she hadn't anticipated United charging
for an international flight.
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Date: 01 Sep 2007 11:03:36
From: ::dom::
Subject: Re: Bike Case from Performance Bike
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The best thing I ever did was invest in a Ritchey Break Away. I trave
quite a bit and the Break Away comes with it's own case and can b
checked in like bagage. The weight at the check in, a couple of week
ago when flying to Sydney, was 13.2kg. This was for: bike, case
helmet, shoes, 1 bottle, pedals, underseat bag, tyre levers. mini pum
(Topeak's Mini Pump fits inside their mid size bag :D), a couple o
spare tubes, patch kit. multitool, Y hex wrench, 1 wheel bag, gloves
It takes me 10 min to take a part and pack and 15 mins to pack....
love it
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::dom:
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Date: 31 Aug 2007 16:04:16
From: Daniel Norton
Subject: Re: Bike Case from Performance Bike
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Thanks, Mike, for your reply.
On Aug 30, 7:46 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <Mi...@ChainReaction.com >
wrote:
> Please note the weight (26 lbs) and keep that in mind regarding bringing in
> a plane. Most airlines have a 50lb weight limit on bikes in boxes now, and
> some are even 44lbs. At 50 lbs, you shouldn't have too much trouble as that
> gives you 24 lbs to play with. Just remember that you can't stuff it full of
> all sorts of other stuff.
>From my research, the bicycle fee for all the airlines include excess
weight coverage typicall up to 70 lbs. I don't know of any US
carriers that are as restrictive you mention, but that restriction is
typical for the free-baggage allowance. If you can cite a specific
source, I'd like to have a look for myself.
> Also, most damage I've seen lately hasn't been done by the baggage handlers,
> but rather the TSA (security) folk. Make sure you pack things in a way that
> makes it easy for them to check things out. Sometimes the things you do to
> protect your bike (wrapping it up with all manner of foam & bubble pack) can
> work against you as the TSA gorillas tear things apart, thinking you might
> be trying to hide something.
Yeah, I had that experience with a bike that arrived off of the
internal fork mounts, loose in the bag along with the TSA "calling
card." Jerks.
> Aside from that, I haven't seen one of those cases in real life, but somehow
> my bike, and my son's, managed to survive a trip to France, including
> multiple trains & planes & automobiles (sounds like a movie) in one of
> these-http://www.bikebags.com/travelbag.html
The problem with the soft bags is that many airlines will only accept
them on "conditional acceptance," basically giving them an out on any
damage no matter how irresponsible they were. e.g.: "[Continental] is
not liable for damage to Bicycles ... not contained in cardboard
containers [or] hard-sided cases."
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Daniel
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Date: 31 Aug 2007 16:32:06
From: Mike Jacoubowsky
Subject: Re: Bike Case from Performance Bike
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>> Please note the weight (26 lbs) and keep that in mind regarding bringing
>> in
>> a plane. Most airlines have a 50lb weight limit on bikes in boxes now,
>> and
>> some are even 44lbs. At 50 lbs, you shouldn't have too much trouble as
>> that
>> gives you 24 lbs to play with. Just remember that you can't stuff it full
>> of
>> all sorts of other stuff.
>
>>From my research, the bicycle fee for all the airlines include excess
> weight coverage typicall up to 70 lbs. I don't know of any US
> carriers that are as restrictive you mention, but that restriction is
> typical for the free-baggage allowance. If you can cite a specific
> source, I'd like to have a look for myself.
For International flights, UA is very strict about 50lbs. But the good side
is that, so far, they still aren't charging to carry a bike on International
itineraries. That could change at any moment. For the rest of them, you'll
find out when you get to the airport. Websites are vague beyond belief. Do
not, repeat, do NOT assume that 70lbs is OK. 70lbs was ok for luggage in
general a couple years ago. All weight restrictions are moving downward, as
airlines seek to enhance revenue. Bicycles will not buck that trend. Keep in
mind that we have direct experience with many customers who fly with their
bikes.
>> Also, most damage I've seen lately hasn't been done by the baggage
>> handlers,
>> but rather the TSA (security) folk. Make sure you pack things in a way
>> that
>> makes it easy for them to check things out. Sometimes the things you do
>> to
>> protect your bike (wrapping it up with all manner of foam & bubble pack)
>> can
>> work against you as the TSA gorillas tear things apart, thinking you
>> might
>> be trying to hide something.
>
> Yeah, I had that experience with a bike that arrived off of the
> internal fork mounts, loose in the bag along with the TSA "calling
> card." Jerks.
>
>> Aside from that, I haven't seen one of those cases in real life, but
>> somehow
>> my bike, and my son's, managed to survive a trip to France, including
>> multiple trains & planes & automobiles (sounds like a movie) in one of
>> these-http://www.bikebags.com/travelbag.html
>
> The problem with the soft bags is that many airlines will only accept
> them on "conditional acceptance," basically giving them an out on any
> damage no matter how irresponsible they were. e.g.: "[Continental] is
> not liable for damage to Bicycles ... not contained in cardboard
> containers [or] hard-sided cases."
Which is exactly how different from what they'd say otherwise? I believe the
max they're required to pay is $400, period. And at our shop, we've seen the
airlines destroy $5000 bikes (doing $3000 damage to a frame) and refuse to
pay more than the $400. The last one was in a plastic case. The outside of
the box showed very little evidence of anything happening to it, and I'll
guess that the chances of recovery diminish when you don't inspect the
contents before leaving the baggage claim area.
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
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Date: 30 Aug 2007 17:46:55
From: Mike Jacoubowsky
Subject: Re: Bike Case from Performance Bike
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> Anybody have comments or experience with this bike case?
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2647ut
Please note the weight (26 lbs) and keep that in mind regarding bringing in
a plane. Most airlines have a 50lb weight limit on bikes in boxes now, and
some are even 44lbs. At 50 lbs, you shouldn't have too much trouble as that
gives you 24 lbs to play with. Just remember that you can't stuff it full of
all sorts of other stuff.
Also, most damage I've seen lately hasn't been done by the baggage handlers,
but rather the TSA (security) folk. Make sure you pack things in a way that
makes it easy for them to check things out. Sometimes the things you do to
protect your bike (wrapping it up with all manner of foam & bubble pack) can
work against you as the TSA gorillas tear things apart, thinking you might
be trying to hide something.
Aside from that, I haven't seen one of those cases in real life, but somehow
my bike, and my son's, managed to survive a trip to France, including
multiple trains & planes & automobiles (sounds like a movie) in one of
these- http://www.bikebags.com/travelbag.html
Terribly inconvenient to carry any sort of distance (no wheels and the bag
doesn't hold any real shape) but yet the bikes came through. I didn't trust
my nicest bike to the trip though. We had no choice but to use bags, as the
TGV (French train) won't take bikes in boxes, only in approved (120cm x 90cm
or smaller) bags.
--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
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