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Date: 01 Apr 2007 17:09:45
From: limeylew@gmail.com
Subject: Can you believe this?
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I saw this at www.fixedgeargallery.com today:-
"I can't support bike lanes. Roads are built for buses, cars, and
trucks. My heart bleeds when someone gets killed, but it's their own
fault at the end of the day."
Rob Ford - Toronto City Councillor councillor_ford@toronto.ca (and it
included the guy's photo)
How a person in this kind of postion have such an idiotic opinion?
Lewis.
*****
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 07:20:26
From: John Kane
Subject: Re: Can you believe this?
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On Apr 2, 11:22 pm, fred <f...@fred.com > wrote:
> limey...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I saw this atwww.fixedgeargallery.comtoday:-
>
> > "I can't support bike lanes. Roads are built for buses, cars, and
> > trucks. My heart bleeds when someone gets killed, but it's their own
> > fault at the end of the day."
> > Rob Ford - Toronto City Councillor councillor_f...@toronto.ca (and it
> > included the guy's photo)
>
> > How a person in this kind of postion have such an idiotic opinion?
>
> > Lewis.
>
> > *****
>
> Toronto is not noted for electing highly intelligent people to its city
> council.
>
> NB: this is not to suggest that other cities are noted for electing
> highly intelligent people to their respective city councils.
My own theory is that many highly intelligent people are elected to
city councils. It is some strange environmental pollution in their
city hall offices that causes the cognitive impairment. The problem
seems quite common and the Federal Government should investigate it as
part of their in-door air quality research.
John Kane, Kingston ON Canada
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 22:22:43
From: fred
Subject: Re: Can you believe this?
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limeylew@gmail.com wrote:
> I saw this at www.fixedgeargallery.com today:-
>
> "I can't support bike lanes. Roads are built for buses, cars, and
> trucks. My heart bleeds when someone gets killed, but it's their own
> fault at the end of the day."
> Rob Ford - Toronto City Councillor councillor_ford@toronto.ca (and it
> included the guy's photo)
>
> How a person in this kind of postion have such an idiotic opinion?
>
> Lewis.
>
> *****
>
Toronto is not noted for electing highly intelligent people to its city
council.
NB: this is not to suggest that other cities are noted for electing
highly intelligent people to their respective city councils.
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 12:11:32
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: Can you believe this?
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On 1 Apr 2007 17:09:45 -0700, "limeylew@gmail.com"
<limeylew@gmail.com > wrote:
>I saw this at www.fixedgeargallery.com today:-
>
>"I can't support bike lanes. Roads are built for buses, cars, and
>trucks. My heart bleeds when someone gets killed, but it's their own
>fault at the end of the day."
>Rob Ford - Toronto City Councillor councillor_ford@toronto.ca (and it
>included the guy's photo)
>
>How a person in this kind of postion have such an idiotic opinion?
>
>Lewis.
>
>*****
Well, gee, so-called bicycling advocates are counted among those that
say that roads are too dangerous for cyclists to ride on without bike
lanes, some bicyclists love to tell stories about how they ride on
roads too dangerous for a sane person to ride, some bicyclists like to
make themselves out to be people living lives of danger every day, and
then we wonder why a non-cyclist has an opinion like this? Guess what
- he could assemble plenty of support from this list, no problem. Oh,
sure, not the exact position or the exact words, but close enough to
use as support if he ever wants to take a shot at eliminating cyclists
from the road.
I ride in a lot of conditions, but I never have found the dangers that
so many seem to have found. I have enjoyed riding a bike on log roads
in Northern California, city roads in Baltimore and Washington, DC,
country roads all over, but especially in Kansas, and my share of farm
and ranch roads in Kansas, Oklahoma and Texas (my definition: its a
country road with livestock grates). Didn't even mind sharing the road
with Pacific Intermountain doubles driving 70 on U.S. 50, although it
did take some skill to learn how to deal with side winds. Taken the
road with no shoulder between jersey barriers with a couple of semis
on my tail. Never needed to write about how dangerous I found life on
a bicycle while on the road. I've actually enjoyed commuting, shopping
and riding recreationally on a bike. Sure, I have a couple of scars
here and there, but my worst cycing accident was from a group of
uncontrolled Boy Scouts on a bike trail (Mt. Vernon in N.Va. to be
exact).
Those that do feel this compulsion to explain how their every day on a
bike is fraught with danger are the above councilor's best supporters.
I find his position a lot more understandable than theirs.
Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 13:06:35
From: Wayne Pein
Subject: Re: Can you believe this?
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Curtis L. Russell wrote:
>
> Well, gee, so-called bicycling advocates are counted among those that
> say that roads are too dangerous for cyclists to ride on without bike
> lanes, some bicyclists love to tell stories about how they ride on
> roads too dangerous for a sane person to ride, some bicyclists like to
> make themselves out to be people living lives of danger every day, and
> then we wonder why a non-cyclist has an opinion like this? Guess what
> - he could assemble plenty of support from this list, no problem. Oh,
> sure, not the exact position or the exact words, but close enough to
> use as support if he ever wants to take a shot at eliminating cyclists
> from the road.
>
> I ride in a lot of conditions, but I never have found the dangers that
> so many seem to have found. I have enjoyed riding a bike on log roads
> in Northern California, city roads in Baltimore and Washington, DC,
> country roads all over, but especially in Kansas, and my share of farm
> and ranch roads in Kansas, Oklahoma and Texas (my definition: its a
> country road with livestock grates). Didn't even mind sharing the road
> with Pacific Intermountain doubles driving 70 on U.S. 50, although it
> did take some skill to learn how to deal with side winds. Taken the
> road with no shoulder between jersey barriers with a couple of semis
> on my tail. Never needed to write about how dangerous I found life on
> a bicycle while on the road. I've actually enjoyed commuting, shopping
> and riding recreationally on a bike. Sure, I have a couple of scars
> here and there, but my worst cycing accident was from a group of
> uncontrolled Boy Scouts on a bike trail (Mt. Vernon in N.Va. to be
> exact).
>
> Those that do feel this compulsion to explain how their every day on a
> bike is fraught with danger are the above councilor's best supporters.
> I find his position a lot more understandable than theirs.
>
Testify! This is required reading material for so-called bicycling
advocates.
Wayne
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 15:16:48
From: nash
Subject: Re: Can you believe this?
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"Curtis L. Russell" <curtis@md-bicycling.org > wrote in message
news:f3a213lguslgaalo2nde8kb0b4qjrtkm0p@4ax.com...
> On 1 Apr 2007 17:09:45 -0700, "limeylew@gmail.com"
> <limeylew@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I saw this at www.fixedgeargallery.com today:-
>>
>>"I can't support bike lanes. Roads are built for buses, cars, and
>>trucks. My heart bleeds when someone gets killed, but it's their own
>>fault at the end of the day."
>>Rob Ford - Toronto City Councillor councillor_ford@toronto.ca (and it
>>included the guy's photo)
>>
>>How a person in this kind of postion have such an idiotic opinion?
>>
>>Lewis.
>>
>>*****
>
> Well, gee, so-called bicycling advocates are counted among those that
> say that roads are too dangerous for cyclists to ride on without bike
> lanes, some bicyclists love to tell stories about how they ride on
> roads too dangerous for a sane person to ride, some bicyclists like to
> make themselves out to be people living lives of danger every day, and
> then we wonder why a non-cyclist has an opinion like this? Guess what
> - he could assemble plenty of support from this list, no problem. Oh,
> sure, not the exact position or the exact words, but close enough to
> use as support if he ever wants to take a shot at eliminating cyclists
> from the road.
>
> I ride in a lot of conditions, but I never have found the dangers that
> so many seem to have found. I have enjoyed riding a bike on log roads
> in Northern California, city roads in Baltimore and Washington, DC,
> country roads all over, but especially in Kansas, and my share of farm
> and ranch roads in Kansas, Oklahoma and Texas (my definition: its a
> country road with livestock grates). Didn't even mind sharing the road
> with Pacific Intermountain doubles driving 70 on U.S. 50, although it
> did take some skill to learn how to deal with side winds. Taken the
> road with no shoulder between jersey barriers with a couple of semis
> on my tail. Never needed to write about how dangerous I found life on
> a bicycle while on the road. I've actually enjoyed commuting, shopping
> and riding recreationally on a bike. Sure, I have a couple of scars
> here and there, but my worst cycing accident was from a group of
> uncontrolled Boy Scouts on a bike trail (Mt. Vernon in N.Va. to be
> exact).
>
> Those that do feel this compulsion to explain how their every day on a
> bike is fraught with danger are the above councilor's best supporters.
> I find his position a lot more understandable than theirs.
>
> Curtis L. Russell
> Odenton, MD (USA)
> Just someone on two wheels...
that is a refreshing comment . Thanks
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Date: 02 Apr 2007 01:28:17
From: Bellsouth Ijit 2.0
Subject: Re: Can you believe this?
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<limeylew@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1175472585.867548.315300@p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
>I saw this at www.fixedgeargallery.com today:-
>
> "I can't support bike lanes. Roads are built for buses, cars, and
> trucks. My heart bleeds when someone gets killed, but it's their own
> fault at the end of the day."
> Rob Ford - Toronto City Councillor councillor_ford@toronto.ca (and it
> included the guy's photo)
>
> How a person in this kind of postion have such an idiotic opinion?
>
> Lewis.
>
> *****
>
His last name sums it up.
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