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Date: 30 Mar 2007 20:59:54
From: Sheldon Brown
Subject: Chain Cleaning & Maintneance
All knowledgeable cyclists know that THE most important thing in
cycling is proper chain cleaning and maintenance...yet, most cyclists
neglect this essential task, or use slapdash lazy techniques that are
letter better than pure neglect.

Mostly this is due to ignorance. Few cyclists are aware that there is
really only ONE RIGHT WAY to care for your all-important chain.

Now, the bicycle scientists of ShelBroCo have codified the PROPER
METHOD and offer a complete kit, the:

*********ShelBroCo Bicycle Chain Cleaning
System.**********

http://sheldonbrown.com/chainclean

Now you have not excuse for skimping on this most vital aspect of
cycling!

Sheldon "The One Right Way" Brown
+---------------------------------------------------+




 
Date: 01 Apr 2007 19:57:27
From: me
Subject: Re: Chain Cleaning & Maintneance
On Fri, 30 2007 20:59:54 -0700, Sheldon Brown wrote:

> All knowledgeable cyclists know that THE most important thing in
> cycling is proper chain cleaning and maintenance...yet, most cyclists
> neglect this essential task, or use slapdash lazy techniques that are
> letter better than pure neglect.
>
> Mostly this is due to ignorance. Few cyclists are aware that there is
> really only ONE RIGHT WAY to care for your all-important chain.
>
> Now, the bicycle scientists of ShelBroCo have codified the PROPER
> METHOD and offer a complete kit, the:
>
> *********ShelBroCo Bicycle Chain Cleaning
> System.**********
>
> http://sheldonbrown.com/chainclean
>
> Now you have not excuse for skimping on this most vital aspect of
> cycling!
>
> Sheldon "The One Right Way" Brown
> +---------------------------------------------------+
>


 
Date: 31 Mar 2007 18:49:14
From: Phil Holman
Subject: Re: Chain Cleaning & Maintneance

"Sheldon Brown" <CaptBike@sheldonbrown.com > wrote in message
news:1175313594.512470.271280@p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
> All knowledgeable cyclists know that THE most important thing in
> cycling is proper chain cleaning and maintenance...yet, most cyclists
> neglect this essential task, or use slapdash lazy techniques that are
> letter better than pure neglect.

April 1st has come a couple of days early this year.

Phil H




 
Date: 31 Mar 2007 21:46:11
From: Ben Kaufman
Subject: Re: Chain Cleaning & Maintneance
On 30 2007 20:59:54 -0700, "Sheldon Brown" <CaptBike@sheldonbrown.com >
wrote:

>All knowledgeable cyclists know that THE most important thing in
>cycling is proper chain cleaning and maintenance...yet, most cyclists
>neglect this essential task, or use slapdash lazy techniques that are
>letter better than pure neglect.
>
>Mostly this is due to ignorance. Few cyclists are aware that there is
>really only ONE RIGHT WAY to care for your all-important chain.
>
>Now, the bicycle scientists of ShelBroCo have codified the PROPER
>METHOD and offer a complete kit, the:
>
> *********ShelBroCo Bicycle Chain Cleaning
>System.**********
>
> http://sheldonbrown.com/chainclean
>
>Now you have not excuse for skimping on this most vital aspect of
>cycling!
>
>Sheldon "The One Right Way" Brown
>+---------------------------------------------------+
>


  
Date: 31 Mar 2007 19:33:35
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Chain Cleaning & Maintneance
Ben Kaufman wrote:
> On 30 2007 20:59:54 -0700, "Sheldon Brown"
> <CaptBike@sheldonbrown.com> wrote:
>
>> All knowledgeable cyclists know that THE most important thing in
>> cycling is proper chain cleaning and maintenance... {snippage}

> Isn't it cheaper and faster to just buy a new chain?

Post that again after midnight.

Bill "withholding my whoosh" S.




 
Date: 31 Mar 2007 17:04:17
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: Chain Cleaning & Maintneance
In article <sfht03lcnftorit16p4baiub3a6bba769j@4ax.com >,
carlfogel@comcast.net writes:
> On Sat, 31 2007 14:36:41 -0400, Wayne Pein <wpein@nc.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Amateur! You forgot the final ultrasonic rinse and oven bake dry steps.
>>
>>Wayne
>
> Dear Wayne,
>
> Oven bake? Good lord, everyone in the south-west knows that crude
> oven-baking ruins the delicate flavor of a freshly cleaned chain!
>
> An oven may work for you and Sheldon in damp places like
> Massachusetts, but anyone who cares about chains in an arid climate
> will pop them into one of these propane-fired tumblers for drying and
> finishing:
>
> http://www.chileroastersonline.com/newazchileroasters/sserranophoto.html

In NM you can get by with a dehydrator.
Which can pretty much be an old screen door
lain across two garbage cans out in the back
yard, or somewhere in the back 40.

In more pluvial climes, a convection oven
does the trick, 'cuz the fan blows all the
fumes out. And then you can cook your
twice-baked potatoes without worrying about
them tasting like a bicycle chain. And it's
"greener" to use a little convection oven for
little stuff, instead of a big, honkin'
stove/hob oven.

Back in the early '60s my folks got bit by the lapidary
bug, and became Rock Hounds (pity me.) As a consequence,
my dad built a rock tumbler[*] that consisted of a cannister
loosely rolling atop two old washing machine wringers,
one of which was driven by a 1/4-horse electric furnace
motor. I guess a rig like that could make a bicycle chain
look pretty shiny.

> In summer, entrepreneurs set them up in front of Walts to serve the
> cycling public.

How much do they charge for the subsequent tall, cool
swig of water & slice of bread? $20.oo?

You've given me an idea. Create-a-ket works!


cheers,
Tom

[*] that was after he built an arc welder out of an
old power pole transformer. I think he got the
plans from a Popular Science or Popular Mechanics.

If today's society is horrifically screwed up, I
think it has much to do with those rags.
Unix Review probably didn't help much, either.
Except maybe for Stan Kelley-Bootle's column.

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Date: 31 Mar 2007 18:44:04
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: Chain Cleaning & Maintneance
On 30 2007 20:59:54 -0700, "Sheldon Brown"
<CaptBike@sheldonbrown.com > wrote:


> http://sheldonbrown.com/chainclean

Nice, that's pretty much the process I use, but with simpler cleaning
fluids -- so I've ordered a gross of your kit.

But I've been concerned about lint off the cotton swabs.

Is there any substitute for cotton swabs that might produce less lint?
Or has your crack team considered some sort of de-linting protocol?
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Date: 01 Apr 2007 14:37:49
From: Jim Flom
Subject: Re: Chain Cleaning & Maintneance
"John Forrest Tomlinson" <usenetremove@jt10000.com > wrote...
>
> Is there any substitute for cotton swabs that might produce less lint?
> Or has your crack team considered some sort of de-linting protocol?

http://www.swixsport.com/eway/default.aspx?pid=278&trg=MainPage_6117&MainContent_6179=6117:0:24,2740&MainPage_6117=6138:34576::0:6118:11:::0:0

or

http://tinyurl.com/2ed2w5




 
Date: 31 Mar 2007 22:33:53
From: Martin Dann
Subject: Re: Chain Cleaning & Maintneance
Sheldon Brown wrote:
> All knowledgeable cyclists know that THE most important thing in
> cycling is proper chain cleaning and maintneance..

<fx: splutter >

*Clean* a chain ?????????!!!?!?!?!???!?

I get my bikes serviced at the LBS every 500 miles, and they always
replace the chain, tyres and brake blocks. My FasterCard[1] takes care
of the costs.

Brake/gear cables, derailleurs and the like only get replaced every 2000
miles. [2]

However my Real Man Saddle [3] shows no sign of wear.

[1] http://tinyurl.com/ypjpxu
[2] LBS say its due to the lack of a "pre tested ket for oiks".
[3] http://tinyurl.com/55tdh

tin.


 
Date: 31 Mar 2007 14:36:41
From: Wayne Pein
Subject: Re: Chain Cleaning & Maintneance
Amateur! You forgot the final ultrasonic rinse and oven bake dry steps.

Wayne



  
Date: 31 Mar 2007 13:50:22
From:
Subject: Re: Chain Cleaning & Maintneance
On Sat, 31 2007 14:36:41 -0400, Wayne Pein <wpein@nc.rr.com >
wrote:

>Amateur! You forgot the final ultrasonic rinse and oven bake dry steps.
>
>Wayne

Dear Wayne,

Oven bake? Good lord, everyone in the south-west knows that crude
oven-baking ruins the delicate flavor of a freshly cleaned chain!

An oven may work for you and Sheldon in damp places like
Massachusetts, but anyone who cares about chains in an arid climate
will pop them into one of these propane-fired tumblers for drying and
finishing:

http://www.chileroastersonline.com/newazchileroasters/sserranophoto.html

In summer, entrepreneurs set them up in front of Walts to serve the
cycling public.

Cheers,

Carl Fogel


  
Date: 31 Mar 2007 21:48:46
From: Martin Borsje
Subject: Re: Chain Cleaning & Maintneance
> Amateur! You forgot the final ultrasonic rinse and oven bake dry steps.
>
> Wayne

Let alone using a COTTON swab for cleaning these precious parts!!

Can you imagine what hydrogen and organic acids, present in this BIO
material will induce as massive corrosion and crack formation!!

Prior to ultrasonic cleaning (100 +/- 0.314 kHz) cleaning should me
done with very soft swabs made of PE fibre not thicker than 1 micron!

Still a lot to learn Sheldon.

I really hope he updates his website with this precious information
VERY VERY SOON

As this knowledge will raise cycling fundamentals globally I don't dare
to ask any compensation for it.

Wonder if here, the Netherlands, on the eastern hemisphere possibly
opposite isomers for some of these hi-spec lubricants should be used.

tin


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Date: 31 Mar 2007 18:33:38
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: Chain Cleaning & Maintneance
In article
<1175313594.512470.271280@p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com >,
"Sheldon Brown" <CaptBike@sheldonbrown.com > wrote:

> All knowledgeable cyclists know that THE most important thing in
> cycling is proper chain cleaning and maintenance...yet, most cyclists
> neglect this essential task, or use slapdash lazy techniques that are
> letter better than pure neglect.
>
> Mostly this is due to ignorance. Few cyclists are aware that there is
> really only ONE RIGHT WAY to care for your all-important chain.
>
> Now, the bicycle scientists of ShelBroCo have codified the PROPER
> METHOD and offer a complete kit, the:
>
> *********ShelBroCo Bicycle Chain Cleaning
> System.**********
>
> http://sheldonbrown.com/chainclean
>
> Now you have not excuse for skimping on this most vital aspect of
> cycling!

-- He killed the chain-cleaning thread.
-- You bastard!
--
Michael Press


 
Date: 31 Mar 2007 09:04:13
From: richard
Subject: Re: Chain Cleaning & Maintneance
Almost messed myself! Glad you still have your sense of humor!

Sheldon Brown wrote:
> All knowledgeable cyclists know that THE most important thing in
> cycling is proper chain cleaning and maintenance...yet, most cyclists
> neglect this essential task, or use slapdash lazy techniques that are
> letter better than pure neglect.
>
> Mostly this is due to ignorance. Few cyclists are aware that there is
> really only ONE RIGHT WAY to care for your all-important chain.
>
> Now, the bicycle scientists of ShelBroCo have codified the PROPER
> METHOD and offer a complete kit, the:
>
> *********ShelBroCo Bicycle Chain Cleaning
> System.**********
>
> http://sheldonbrown.com/chainclean
>
> Now you have not excuse for skimping on this most vital aspect of
> cycling!
>
> Sheldon "The One Right Way" Brown
> +---------------------------------------------------+
>


 
Date: 31 Mar 2007 21:38:12
From: Friday
Subject: Re: Chain Cleaning & Maintneance
Sheldon Brown wrote:
> All knowledgeable cyclists know that THE most important thing in
> cycling is proper chain cleaning and maintenance...yet, most cyclists
> neglect this essential task, or use slapdash lazy techniques that are
> letter better than pure neglect.
>
> Mostly this is due to ignorance. Few cyclists are aware that there is
> really only ONE RIGHT WAY to care for your all-important chain.
>
> Now, the bicycle scientists of ShelBroCo have codified the PROPER
> METHOD and offer a complete kit, the:
>
> *********ShelBroCo Bicycle Chain Cleaning
> System.**********
>
> http://sheldonbrown.com/chainclean
>
> Now you have not excuse for skimping on this most vital aspect of
> cycling!
>
> Sheldon "The One Right Way" Brown
> +---------------------------------------------------+
>


 
Date: 31 Mar 2007 09:30:46
From: SMS
Subject: Re: Chain Cleaning & Maintneance
Sheldon Brown wrote:
> All knowledgeable cyclists know that THE most important thing in
> cycling is proper chain cleaning and maintenance...yet, most cyclists
> neglect this essential task, or use slapdash lazy techniques that are
> letter better than pure neglect.
>
> Mostly this is due to ignorance. Few cyclists are aware that there is
> really only ONE RIGHT WAY to care for your all-important chain.
>
> Now, the bicycle scientists of ShelBroCo have codified the PROPER
> METHOD and offer a complete kit, the:

While that method will clean and lubricate the rollers and plate holes,
you completely ignored the necessity of cleaning and waxing both sides
of every plate.


 
Date: 31 Mar 2007 04:52:23
From: John Kane
Subject: Re: Chain Cleaning & Maintneance
On 30, 11:59 pm, "Sheldon Brown" <CaptB...@sheldonbrown.com >
wrote:
> All knowledgeable cyclists know that THE most important thing in
> cycling is proper chain cleaning and maintenance...yet, most cyclists
> neglect this essential task, or use slapdash lazy techniques that are
> letter better than pure neglect.
>
> Mostly this is due to ignorance. Few cyclists are aware that there is
> really only ONE RIGHT WAY to care for your all-important chain.
>
> Now, the bicycle scientists of ShelBroCo have codified the PROPER
> METHOD and offer a complete kit, the:
>
> *********ShelBroCo Bicycle Chain Cleaning
> System.**********
>
> http://sheldonbrown.com/chainclean
>
> Now you have not excuse for skimping on this most vital aspect of
> cycling!
>
> Sheldon "The One Right Way" Brown
> +---------------------------------------------------+
>


 
Date: 31 Mar 2007 07:39:43
From: Just A User
Subject: Re: Chain Cleaning & Maintneance
Sheldon Brown wrote:
> All knowledgeable cyclists know that THE most important thing in
> cycling is proper chain cleaning and maintenance...yet, most cyclists
> neglect this essential task, or use slapdash lazy techniques that are
> letter better than pure neglect.
>
> Mostly this is due to ignorance. Few cyclists are aware that there is
> really only ONE RIGHT WAY to care for your all-important chain.
>
> Now, the bicycle scientists of ShelBroCo have codified the PROPER
> METHOD and offer a complete kit, the:
>
> *********ShelBroCo Bicycle Chain Cleaning
> System.**********
>
> http://sheldonbrown.com/chainclean
>
> Now you have not excuse for skimping on this most vital aspect of
> cycling!
>
> Sheldon "The One Right Way" Brown
A little time and labor intensive for my tastes, but some out there
might like the new system.

Ken

Reply sent after getting up off the floor from laughing.


  
Date: 04 Apr 2007 19:44:43
From: Alex Colvin
Subject: Re: Chain Cleaning & Maintneance
>> http://sheldonbrown.com/chainclean

>A little time and labor intensive for my tastes, but some out there
>might like the new system.

Fabs has domestiques do this for him.

--
mac the naïf


  
Date: 31 Mar 2007 15:31:22
From: nash
Subject: Re: Chain Cleaning & Maintneance

"Just A User" <ken@up-yours-spammer.net > wrote in message
news:kpqdnd_VuOri1ZPbnZ2dnUVZ_sTinZ2d@giganews.com...
> Sheldon Brown wrote:
>> All knowledgeable cyclists know that THE most important thing in
>> cycling is proper chain cleaning and maintenance...yet, most cyclists
>> neglect this essential task, or use slapdash lazy techniques that are
>> letter better than pure neglect.
>>
>> Mostly this is due to ignorance. Few cyclists are aware that there is
>> really only ONE RIGHT WAY to care for your all-important chain.
>>
>> Now, the bicycle scientists of ShelBroCo have codified the PROPER
>> METHOD and offer a complete kit, the:
>>
>> *********ShelBroCo Bicycle Chain Cleaning
>> System.**********
>>
>> http://sheldonbrown.com/chainclean
>>
>> Now you have not excuse for skimping on this most vital aspect of
>> cycling!
>>
>> Sheldon "The One Right Way" Brown
> A little time and labor intensive for my tastes, but some out there might
> like the new system.
>
> Ken
>
> Reply sent after getting up off the floor from laughing.

Dude is holding a cigarette? Kit costs more than a new Chain :)?
Like to see you do that with a car oh Great One.




   
Date: 31 Mar 2007 11:38:31
From: Just A User
Subject: Re: Chain Cleaning & Maintneance
nash wrote:
> "Just A User" <ken@up-yours-spammer.net> wrote in message
> news:kpqdnd_VuOri1ZPbnZ2dnUVZ_sTinZ2d@giganews.com...
>> Sheldon Brown wrote:
>>> All knowledgeable cyclists know that THE most important thing in
>>> cycling is proper chain cleaning and maintenance...yet, most cyclists
>>> neglect this essential task, or use slapdash lazy techniques that are
>>> letter better than pure neglect.
>>>
>>> Mostly this is due to ignorance. Few cyclists are aware that there is
>>> really only ONE RIGHT WAY to care for your all-important chain.
>>>
>>> Now, the bicycle scientists of ShelBroCo have codified the PROPER
>>> METHOD and offer a complete kit, the:
>>>
>>> *********ShelBroCo Bicycle Chain Cleaning
>>> System.**********
>>>
>>> http://sheldonbrown.com/chainclean
>>>
>>> Now you have not excuse for skimping on this most vital aspect of
>>> cycling!
>>>
>>> Sheldon "The One Right Way" Brown
>> A little time and labor intensive for my tastes, but some out there might
>> like the new system.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> Reply sent after getting up off the floor from laughing.
>
> Dude is holding a cigarette? Kit costs more than a new Chain :)?
> Like to see you do that with a car oh Great One.
>
>
Yeah it's way more expensive than a new chain, but you need to clean a
new chain as well just to get rid of that anti rust / lubricant stuff
they put on new chains.

Ken


 
Date: 31 Mar 2007 05:12:31
From: Colin Nelson
Subject: Re: Chain Cleaning & Maintneance

"Sheldon Brown" <CaptBike@sheldonbrown.com > wrote in message
news:1175313594.512470.271280@p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...
> All knowledgeable cyclists know that THE most important thing in
> cycling is proper chain cleaning and maintenance...yet, most cyclists
> neglect this essential task, or use slapdash lazy techniques that are
> letter better than pure neglect.
>
> Mostly this is due to ignorance. Few cyclists are aware that there is
> really only ONE RIGHT WAY to care for your all-important chain.
>
> Now, the bicycle scientists of ShelBroCo have codified the PROPER
> METHOD and offer a complete kit, the:
>
> *********ShelBroCo Bicycle Chain Cleaning
> System.**********
>
> http://sheldonbrown.com/chainclean
>
> Now you have not excuse for skimping on this most vital aspect of
> cycling!
>
> Sheldon "The One Right Way" Brown
> +---------------------------------------------------+
>


 
Date: 30 Mar 2007 21:55:41
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Chain Cleaning & Maintneance
Sheldon Brown wrote:
> All knowledgeable cyclists know that THE most important thing in
> cycling is proper chain cleaning and maintenance...yet, most cyclists
> neglect this essential task, or use slapdash lazy techniques that are
> letter better than pure neglect.
>
> Mostly this is due to ignorance. Few cyclists are aware that there is
> really only ONE RIGHT WAY to care for your all-important chain.
>
> Now, the bicycle scientists of ShelBroCo have codified the PROPER
> METHOD and offer a complete kit, the:
>
> *********ShelBroCo Bicycle Chain Cleaning
> System.**********
>
> http://sheldonbrown.com/chainclean
>
> Now you have not excuse for skimping on this most vital aspect of
> cycling!
>
> Sheldon "The One Right Way" Brown
> +---------------------------------------------------+
>> "O, don't the days seem lank and long


 
Date: 30 Mar 2007 21:03:40
From: G.T.
Subject: Re: Chain Cleaning & Maintneance
Sheldon Brown wrote:
> All knowledgeable cyclists know that THE most important thing in
> cycling is proper chain cleaning and maintenance...yet, most cyclists
> neglect this essential task, or use slapdash lazy techniques that are
> letter better than pure neglect.
>
> Mostly this is due to ignorance. Few cyclists are aware that there is
> really only ONE RIGHT WAY to care for your all-important chain.
>
> Now, the bicycle scientists of ShelBroCo have codified the PROPER
> METHOD and offer a complete kit, the:
>
> *********ShelBroCo Bicycle Chain Cleaning
> System.**********
>
> http://sheldonbrown.com/chainclean
>
> Now you have not excuse for skimping on this most vital aspect of
> cycling!
>

Freakin' brilliant.

Greg

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