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Date: 22 Aug 2006 17:04:38
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Subject: Charity Riders Killed
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An article at CNN.Com indicates that two bicycle riders who were on a charity ride were killed when a truck ran into the van that was following them. See link below. Tom http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/22/police.bike.wreck.ap/index.html
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Date: 23 Aug 2006 12:46:25
From: Bruce Scott TOK
Subject: Re: Charity Riders Killed
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Tom wrote: >An article at CNN.Com indicates that two bicycle riders who were on a >charity ride were killed when a truck ran into the van that was >following them. See link below. >http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/22/police.bike.wreck.ap/index.html Negligent homicide. I hope the truck driver does time for that. Inexcusable. -- ciao, Bruce drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/
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Date: 23 Aug 2006 07:35:42
From: Dane Buson
Subject: Re: Charity Riders Killed
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Bruce Scott TOK <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1] > wrote: > Tom wrote: > >>An article at CNN.Com indicates that two bicycle riders who were on a >>charity ride were killed when a truck ran into the van that was >>following them. See link below. > >>http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/22/police.bike.wreck.ap/index.html > > Negligent homicide. I hope the truck driver does time for that. > Inexcusable. Yeah, the truck must have had a *huge* delta-V in comparison to the van to kill two riders. I predict a stiffer than normal sentence, since judges and juries (rightfully IMO) take a dim view of people killing cops (even off-duty). Also, it sounds like it was a four-lane highway, so the truck *could* have just gone into the other lane and passed if the driver was paying attention at all. -- Dane Buson - sigdane@unixbigots.org The scum also rises. -- Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
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Date: 24 Aug 2006 14:43:54
From: Paul van Veenendaal
Subject: Re: Charity Riders Killed
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Dane Buson wrote: > Bruce Scott TOK <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote: > >>Tom wrote: >> >> >>>An article at CNN.Com indicates that two bicycle riders who were on a >>>charity ride were killed when a truck ran into the van that was >>>following them. See link below. >> >>>http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/22/police.bike.wreck.ap/index.html >> >>Negligent homicide. I hope the truck driver does time for that. >>Inexcusable. > > > Yeah, the truck must have had a *huge* delta-V in comparison to the van > to kill two riders. I predict a stiffer than normal sentence, since > judges and juries (rightfully IMO) take a dim view of people killing > cops (even off-duty). > > Also, it sounds like it was a four-lane highway, so the truck *could* > have just gone into the other lane and passed if the driver was paying > attention at all. > Here in Western Europe, cycling on a four-lane highway would be considered as suicide (and is usually forbidden). Paul
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 10:35:20
From: Roger Houston
Subject: Re: Charity Riders Killed
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"Paul van Veenendaal" <pvv@nospam.nl > wrote in message news:44ED9F0A.7020301@nospam.nl... > > Here in Western Europe, cycling on a four-lane highway would be considered > as suicide (and is usually forbidden). Yeah, well. They weren't in Western Europe and they didn't deserve to die.
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Date: 23 Aug 2006 10:04:39
From: Roger Houston
Subject: Re: Charity Riders Killed
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"Dane Buson" <dane@unseen.edu > wrote in message news:um5ur3-k9r.ln1@zuvembi.homelinux.org... > > Yeah, the truck must have had a *huge* delta-V in comparison to the van > to kill two riders. I predict a stiffer than normal sentence, since > judges and juries (rightfully IMO) take a dim view of people killing > cops (even off-duty). > > Also, it sounds like it was a four-lane highway, so the truck *could* > have just gone into the other lane and passed if the driver was paying > attention at all. IF. http://www.dieselboss.com/stand.htm
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Date: 23 Aug 2006 09:26:23
From: Dane Buson
Subject: Re: Charity Riders Killed
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Roger Houston <houstonr@nasa.org > wrote: > > "Dane Buson" <dane@unseen.edu> wrote in message > news:um5ur3-k9r.ln1@zuvembi.homelinux.org... >> >> Yeah, the truck must have had a *huge* delta-V in comparison to the van >> to kill two riders. I predict a stiffer than normal sentence, since >> judges and juries (rightfully IMO) take a dim view of people killing >> cops (even off-duty). >> >> Also, it sounds like it was a four-lane highway, so the truck *could* >> have just gone into the other lane and passed if the driver was paying >> attention at all. > > IF. > > http://www.dieselboss.com/stand.htm At first I thought you were posting offtopic. Then I realized you weren't. ;_; It sounds like it was a box truck - not a semi-trailer, not that that precludes the driver having one of those. -- Dane Buson - sigdane@unixbigots.org I can feel for her because, although I have never been an Alaskan prostitute dancing on the bar in a spangled dress, I still get very bored with washing and ironing and dishwashing and cooking day after relentless day. -- Betty MacDonald
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Date: 23 Aug 2006 14:56:06
From: Kristian M Zoerhoff
Subject: Re: Charity Riders Killed
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In article <um5ur3-k9r.ln1@zuvembi.homelinux.org >, dane@unseen.edu says... > > Also, it sounds like it was a four-lane highway, so the truck *could* > have just gone into the other lane and passed if the driver was paying > attention at all. IN-63 is a four-lane, divided highway in this area: <http://tinyurl.com/fylgu > Speed limit is probably 55 mph, maybe 60 in that area (IN just changed their speed limits on freeways, but I don't know if that applies to non-grade- separated expressways as well). If the truck was going 55, and the van was pacing the riders (call it 15 mph), that alone would explain the huge delta, but there's no excuse for missing the giant "cyclists ahead" banner. This guy will be looking at some steep charges, and something tells me the local district attorney won't be in a plea-bargaining mood. -- __o Kristian Zoerhoff _'\(,_ kristian.zoerhoff@gmail.com (_)/ (_)
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