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Date: 12 Jun 2007 12:09:04
From: Just A User
Subject: Comment about the miles you ride
I had a brief conversation with a fairly new co-worker (manager in
training) about the miles I ride per week. Somehow we were talking and
got into how I am an avid cyclist and how many miles I ride per week. I
told him that I used to ride a lot more, riding 150 - 200 miles a week,
but now I am probably only riding 50 to 60 miles a week. He said "Well
that's still a lot." I replied "Well I look at every mile I ride and
investment in my long term overall health.". He replied "That's an
interesting way to look at it.". He is in his late 40's or early 50's
and has high blood pressure (controlled with medication) and has
suffered two heart attacks (he says they were stress induced) and he
also suffers from high cholesterol (controlled with medication). He also
asked me if I knew what my heart rate was and or my blood pressure. I
told him about my recent readings in the free machine at the supermarket
blood pressure and heart rate machine (see previous post).

Ken




 
Date: 15 Jun 2007 18:37:00
From: Jorg Lueke
Subject: Re: Comment about the miles you ride
On Jun 12, 5:09 pm, Just A User <k...@up-yours-spammer.net > wrote:
> I had a brief conversation with a fairly new co-worker (manager in
> training) about the miles I ride per week. Somehow we were talking and
> got into how I am an avid cyclist and how many miles I ride per week. I
> told him that I used to ride a lot more, riding 150 - 200 miles a week,
> but now I am probably only riding 50 to 60 miles a week. He said "Well
> that's still a lot." I replied "Well I look at every mile I ride and
> investment in my long term overall health.". He replied "That's an
> interesting way to look at it.". He is in his late 40's or early 50's
> and has high blood pressure (controlled with medication) and has
> suffered two heart attacks (he says they were stress induced) and he
> also suffers from high cholesterol (controlled with medication). He also
> asked me if I knew what my heart rate was and or my blood pressure. I
> told him about my recent readings in the free machine at the supermarket
> blood pressure and heart rate machine (see previous post).
>
> Ken


Right now I do about 150 miles per week commuting 3 days a week and
1-2 other rides. For someone starting out after having heart attacks
60 miles at 12mph is still 5hours of excercise per week. It would be
pretty low impact, not too much strain on the old ticker and I'd think
be quite beneficial.



 
Date: 15 Jun 2007 16:43:07
From: DC1999
Subject: Re: Comment about the miles you ride
I try to reach 100 miles per week, but if I only go four days, then it
drops to 75 or 80 miles a week. Last week and the week before, I rode
to my office three days, with a trip along a bike path adding a bunch
of miles -- and to the Bank, got a haircut, to the market for lunch to
go, stop off at the Gym, to a Meeting at a local church, and one day
that totaled 32 miles. Today the trip was almost 19 miles. Not bad
for a guy 65 years old. Been running and riding since 1980, two years
after I quit the booze and stopped smoking. Riding is a very real
part of my good physical, mental and spiritual health.

And, the weather has been beautiful here in So California.

Dave
<dc1999@cox.net >



On Jun 12, 9:09 am, Just A User <k...@up-yours-spammer.net > wrote:
> I had a brief conversation with a fairly new co-worker (manager in
> training) about the miles I ride per week. Somehow we were talking and







> got into how I am an avid cyclist and how many miles I ride per week. I
> told him that I used to ride a lot more, riding 150 - 200 miles a week,
> but now I am probably only riding 50 to 60 miles a week. He said "Well
> that's still a lot." I replied "Well I look at every mile I ride and
> investment in my long term overall health.". He replied "That's an
> interesting way to look at it.". He is in his late 40's or early 50's
> and has high blood pressure (controlled with medication) and has
> suffered two heart attacks (he says they were stress induced) and he
> also suffers from high cholesterol (controlled with medication). He also
> asked me if I knew what my heart rate was and or my blood pressure. I
> told him about my recent readings in the free machine at the supermarket
> blood pressure and heart rate machine (see previous post).
>
> Ken




 
Date: 14 Jun 2007 15:01:41
From: Pat
Subject: Re: Comment about the miles you ride
I just read a story about a study using people with depression. They had
half the people exercise outdoors and the rest walk around inside a mall.
The outdoor people reported better mental health overall. So, it's not just
about how many miles you put on your legs. Just being outside in the fresh
air seems to make people happy.

Pat in TX




 
Date: 14 Jun 2007 12:20:33
From:
Subject: Re: Comment about the miles you ride
On Jun 14, 1:17 pm, Booker C. Bense <bbense+rec.bicycles.misc.Jun.
14...@telemark.slac.stanford.edu > wrote:
> In article <1181839180.892115.19...@n15g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
>
> <vellowfel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Does make me wonder
> >sometimes what the kiddies did back in the days before computers.
>
> Well, it was a lot easier to lie about how much and how fast
> you've been riding...
>
> _ Booker C. Bense

That's for sure. You wouldn't even necessarily have to tell a big
lie. Saying you rode "about 20 miles" in an hour sounds a heck of a
lot more impressive than reporting the actual 17.6 mph you might get
from a computer. To lots of non-cyclists, 17.6 mph is "about 20
mph". They probably wouldn't even imagine the pain-factor involved in
actually averaging 20 mph as opposed to the 17.6 (a BIG difference, at
least to me).

Anyway, I like the idea of recording the distance and time of a ride
without being constantly reminded that I am essentially a large chunk
of pedaling gouda.



  
Date: 14 Jun 2007 16:07:10
From: catzz66
Subject: Re: Comment about the miles you ride
vellowfellow@gmail.com wrote:
>
> That's for sure. You wouldn't even necessarily have to tell a big
> lie. Saying you rode "about 20 miles" in an hour sounds a heck of a
> lot more impressive than reporting the actual 17.6 mph you might get
> from a computer. To lots of non-cyclists, 17.6 mph is "about 20
> mph". They probably wouldn't even imagine the pain-factor involved in
> actually averaging 20 mph as opposed to the 17.6 (a BIG difference, at
> least to me).
>
> Anyway, I like the idea of recording the distance and time of a ride
> without being constantly reminded that I am essentially a large chunk
> of pedaling gouda.
>

I log miles, but not time. I have too many riding friends (all younger
than me) to get away with much exaggeration. =]


 
Date: 14 Jun 2007 16:39:40
From:
Subject: Re: Comment about the miles you ride
On Jun 14, 6:50 am, Just A User <k...@up-yours-spammer.net > wrote:
> zekes...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Hey Ken - just curious - why do you mount your computer where you
> > can't see it, and where is it?
>
> I mount it so it can't be seen because I found I was looking at it too
> much. I now have it mounted on the seat post tube, and it reads off the
> rear wheel. I get average speed, distance and time numbers when the ride
> is done and I am at home.
>
> Ken

Thanks. This is a great idea. So beautiful in it's simplicity that
it would never have occured to a clod such as me.

I too have often had the desire to shut out the data during the ride,
Especially that damn "pacing arrow" that basically feels like a form
of self-induced torture. I still want to review total miles and time
post-ride but more-and-more I don't give a twit about any mid-ride
data (yes, I'm slow and I don't care). My decidedly inelegant
solution was to just put a piece of electrical tape over the computer
read out. Your method is obviously much more clever and has the added
advantage of making in nearly impossible to sneak a peek during a
ride. In some ways I wish I was able to just ditch the computer
altogether and just ride...but, I'm can't. Does make me wonder
sometimes what the kiddies did back in the days before computers.



  
Date: 14 Jun 2007 12:48:38
From: catzz66
Subject: Re: Comment about the miles you ride
vellowfellow@gmail.com wrote:
> Does make me wonder
> sometimes what the kiddies did back in the days before computers.
>

My brother and I were just having this conversation, wondering how many
miles we rode on our various bikes when we were kids. I never had any
kind of speedo/odo on a bike until I was an adult. This was in the 70s.
It seems like it was mechanical and was geared to revolutions of the
front wheel hub.

I have a computer on both my bikes, but don't look at it all that often.


   
Date: 14 Jun 2007 19:10:59
From: Steve Gravrock
Subject: Re: Comment about the miles you ride
On 2007-06-14, catzz66 <catzz66@threeletterservice.com > wrote:

> I have a computer on both my bikes, but don't look at it all that often.

On my raod bike I find myself looking at the computer quite a lot.
That's why it's nice to be able to turn it so that I can't see it
sometimes. I don't take it off altogether because I still want to know
how far I've gone. I don't care so much about my average speed -- those
rides when I shut the computer out are almost always slower, but more
pleasant.

I have a computer on my mountain bike as well but I never look at it
while I'm riding. It's strictly an aid to navigation. It could be
nothing but a trip odometer and I'd be satisfied with it.


    
Date: 15 Jun 2007 11:57:45
From: Bob in CT
Subject: Re: Comment about the miles you ride
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 15:10:59 -0400, Steve Gravrock
<usenet@sdg.users.panix.com > wrote:

> On 2007-06-14, catzz66 <catzz66@threeletterservice.com> wrote:
>
>> I have a computer on both my bikes, but don't look at it all that often.
>
> On my raod bike I find myself looking at the computer quite a lot.
> That's why it's nice to be able to turn it so that I can't see it
> sometimes. I don't take it off altogether because I still want to know
> how far I've gone. I don't care so much about my average speed -- those
> rides when I shut the computer out are almost always slower, but more
> pleasant.
>
> I have a computer on my mountain bike as well but I never look at it
> while I'm riding. It's strictly an aid to navigation. It could be
> nothing but a trip odometer and I'd be satisfied with it.

I have a fancy computer that records altitude, speed, heart rate, and
time. I don't look at it that often, but I do download the data and see
what it says. It's interesting to compare certain rides over time.

--
Bob in CT


  
Date: 14 Jun 2007 17:17:39
From: Booker C. Bense
Subject: Re: Comment about the miles you ride
In article <1181839180.892115.19110@n15g2000prd.googlegroups.com >,
<vellowfellow@gmail.com > wrote:

>Does make me wonder
>sometimes what the kiddies did back in the days before computers.
>

Well, it was a lot easier to lie about how much and how fast
you've been riding...

_ Booker C. Bense



 
Date: 13 Jun 2007 19:37:24
From: runcyclexcski@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Comment about the miles you ride
since you are tallking about the Wodside noon ride, the relevant
question is not how fast one rides in a group on a flat, but what
one's Old La Honda time is.



 
Date: 13 Jun 2007 10:01:04
From:
Subject: Re: Comment about the miles you ride
On Jun 12, 7:31 pm, Booker C. Bense <bbense+rec.bicycles.misc.Jun.
12...@telemark.slac.stanford.edu > wrote:

> _ I take it you've never heard of the noon ride in Woodside. I'm
> more in the 12-14mph class myself, but 25mph on flat ground is
> not that fast for a 1-2hr group ride.

How would we be familiar with "the noon ride in Woodside"?

That said, I don't doubt your flat ground group ride speed, given some
fit, serious cyclists. I don't happen to ride that fast, even in a
group, but I'm of the old, fat set.




  
Date: 13 Jun 2007 11:05:55
From: Cathy Kearns
Subject: Re: Comment about the miles you ride

<zekeskar@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1181754064.922613.14330@n15g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 12, 7:31 pm, Booker C. Bense <bbense+rec.bicycles.misc.Jun.
> 12...@telemark.slac.stanford.edu> wrote:
>
>> _ I take it you've never heard of the noon ride in Woodside. I'm
>> more in the 12-14mph class myself, but 25mph on flat ground is
>> not that fast for a 1-2hr group ride.
>
> How would we be familiar with "the noon ride in Woodside"?
>
> That said, I don't doubt your flat ground group ride speed, given some
> fit, serious cyclists. I don't happen to ride that fast, even in a
> group, but I'm of the old, fat set.
>
I've had the pleasure of following the noon ride in Woodside, as well as the
Wednesday night A ride. I can keep up with them, in my car. And yes, my
speedometer says they are going at least 25mph on the flat. My daughter
refers to them as "the peleton". :-) They are quite impressive.




 
Date: 13 Jun 2007 09:58:09
From:
Subject: Re: Comment about the miles you ride

Hey Ken - just curious - why do you mount your computer where you
can't see it, and where is it?





  
Date: 14 Jun 2007 06:50:24
From: Just A User
Subject: Re: Comment about the miles you ride
zekeskar@yahoo.com wrote:
> Hey Ken - just curious - why do you mount your computer where you
> can't see it, and where is it?
>
>
>
I mount it so it can't be seen because I found I was looking at it too
much. I now have it mounted on the seat post tube, and it reads off the
rear wheel. I get average speed, distance and time numbers when the ride
is done and I am at home.

Ken


  
Date: 13 Jun 2007 19:31:33
From: Steve Gravrock
Subject: Re: Comment about the miles you ride
On 2007-06-13, zekeskar@yahoo.com <zekeskar@yahoo.com > wrote:
>
> Hey Ken - just curious - why do you mount your computer where you
> can't see it, and where is it?

I'm not Ken and can't speak for him, but sometimes I find that it's nice
to shut off all the data and just ride at whatever pace feels right.
Night riding can be nice that way.


 
Date: 13 Jun 2007 04:24:33
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Comment about the miles you ride
On Jun 12, 5:46 pm, "runcyclexc...@yahoo.com"
<runcyclexc...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> I used to ride/run/ski an quivalent of 200+ cycling miles a week for
> 10 years. That's not the point. All I was saying is that if you do
> that much riding (training) you'd better know what you are doing. The
> heart and the knees are not the only organs that your body has. E.g.
> up to 50% of competitive cyclists/runners/nordic_skiers (my alias)
> have been shown to have chronic lung inflammation.

My knees have twinged in the past from bad cleat position or f'd up
saddle height, never from twenty years hammering road bikes. Lungs are
brilliant, I make sure to have two homeopathic cigarettes with a
tumbler of bourbon every so often, because I worry! On the bike path I
am known as the "Beast of Butcher Holler". Only one kid ever passes
me, and he's got a skinsuit, tri-bars, and I got fifty pounds on him.
Damn aero waifs. The boy's got arms the size of my wrists!



 
Date: 12 Jun 2007 15:48:54
From: runcyclexcski@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Comment about the miles you ride
... and if you goal is to keep a halthy heart (the original post) 30
min-1 hr exercise per day is ufficient.



 
Date: 12 Jun 2007 15:46:23
From: runcyclexcski@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Comment about the miles you ride
I used to ride/run/ski an quivalent of 200+ cycling miles a week for
10 years. That's not the point. All I was saying is that if you do
that much riding (training) you'd better know what you are doing. The
heart and the knees are not the only organs that your body has. E.g.
up to 50% of competitive cyclists/runners/nordic_skiers (my alias)
have been shown to have chronic lung inflammation.



 
Date: 12 Jun 2007 15:31:32
From: Forbes B-Black
Subject: Re: Comment about the miles you ride
On Jun 12, 9:09 am, Just A User <k...@up-yours-spammer.net > wrote:
> I
> told him that I used to ride a lot more, riding 150 - 200 miles a week,
> but now I am probably only riding 50 to 60 miles a week. He said "Well
> that's still a lot." I replied "Well I look at every mile I ride and
> investment in my long term overall health."

I've always liked the Breezer catch phrase, "Fit exercise into your
life, not just onto it." That's been my cycling mantra lately. I
ride 6 miles each way to work and back about 4 times per week. I'm
riding on my commuter bikes (http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2006/cc122-
forbesbagatelleb0506.html and http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2006/cc152-forbesbb0906.html),
so it's probably... what... 10-15% more work than if I were on my go-
fast bike. On the other hand, I keep it pretty slow, especially on
the way in so I don't get sweaty.

With a 5-month-old baby at home and a new job with big hours, I have
not been able to get signicantly more riding in other than the
commute. Still, the exercise is doing me good. I've already dropped
a belt-hole since I started riding to work in early May!

Every mile counts,

FBB




 
Date: 12 Jun 2007 21:31:50
From:
Subject: Re: Comment about the miles you ride
Just A User <ken@up-yours-spammer.net > wrote:
> I had a brief conversation with a fairly new co-worker (manager in
> training) about the miles I ride per week. Somehow we were talking and
> got into how I am an avid cyclist and how many miles I ride per week. I
> told him that I used to ride a lot more, riding 150 - 200 miles a week,
> but now I am probably only riding 50 to 60 miles a week. He said "Well
> that's still a lot." I replied "Well I look at every mile I ride and
> investment in my long term overall health.". He replied "That's an
> interesting way to look at it.". He is in his late 40's or early 50's
> and has high blood pressure (controlled with medication) and has
> suffered two heart attacks (he says they were stress induced) and he
> also suffers from high cholesterol (controlled with medication). He also
> asked me if I knew what my heart rate was and or my blood pressure. I
> told him about my recent readings in the free machine at the supermarket
> blood pressure and heart rate machine (see previous post).

I ride 50-150 miles a week, and find that the more I ride, the better I
feel (if you don't count the leg cramps after very long rides). I'm
convinced that getting back on a bike is the best thing I've done for my
health in the last twenty years.
Here's another reason to ride, if your friend needs one. IIRC from my
last tax return, the IRS figures that the average car costs $.42/mile to
operate. I've ridden around 10,000 miles in the last five years. Ergo, I
have saved myself $4,200, minus the cost of my bikes and their upkeep.
Now if I can just remember what drawer I stashed that tidy little sum
in, I have a vacation coming...


Bill

__o


  
Date: 12 Jun 2007 17:49:07
From: Just A User
Subject: Re: Comment about the miles you ride
D_Frumious_B@ndersnat.ch wrote:
> Just A User <ken@up-yours-spammer.net> wrote:
>> I had a brief conversation with a fairly new co-worker (manager in
>> training) about the miles I ride per week. Somehow we were talking and
>> got into how I am an avid cyclist and how many miles I ride per week. I
>> told him that I used to ride a lot more, riding 150 - 200 miles a week,
>> but now I am probably only riding 50 to 60 miles a week. He said "Well
>> that's still a lot." I replied "Well I look at every mile I ride and
>> investment in my long term overall health.". He replied "That's an
>> interesting way to look at it.". He is in his late 40's or early 50's
>> and has high blood pressure (controlled with medication) and has
>> suffered two heart attacks (he says they were stress induced) and he
>> also suffers from high cholesterol (controlled with medication). He also
>> asked me if I knew what my heart rate was and or my blood pressure. I
>> told him about my recent readings in the free machine at the supermarket
>> blood pressure and heart rate machine (see previous post).
>
> I ride 50-150 miles a week, and find that the more I ride, the better I
> feel (if you don't count the leg cramps after very long rides). I'm
> convinced that getting back on a bike is the best thing I've done for my
> health in the last twenty years.
> Here's another reason to ride, if your friend needs one. IIRC from my
> last tax return, the IRS figures that the average car costs $.42/mile to
> operate. I've ridden around 10,000 miles in the last five years. Ergo, I
> have saved myself $4,200, minus the cost of my bikes and their upkeep.
> Now if I can just remember what drawer I stashed that tidy little sum
> in, I have a vacation coming...
>

Well I wouldn't recommend for him to start riding given his heart
problems. Well as fas as saving money goes, I was happier when I didn't
have to have my car on the road. Not having to pay the insurance was
pretty nice. And then there is the cost of fuel. But that's another
subject altogether.

Ken



 
Date: 12 Jun 2007 18:25:57
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Comment about the miles you ride
On Jun 12, 12:21 pm, "runcyclexc...@yahoo.com"
<runcyclexc...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> 50-60 miles per week probably does qualify as an ivestment into your
> health.
> With 150-200 miles per week and more it sounds more like an addiction
> and ambition, and does no longer qualify as "healthy" per se, IMHO.

I easily do over 150 miles this time of year. Doesn't seem much at
all. Thats an hour before supper plus change. 50-60 is normal in ham
eating season.



  
Date: 12 Jun 2007 14:37:45
From: Just A User
Subject: Re: Comment about the miles you ride
landotter wrote:
> On Jun 12, 12:21 pm, "runcyclexc...@yahoo.com"
> <runcyclexc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 50-60 miles per week probably does qualify as an ivestment into your
>> health.
>> With 150-200 miles per week and more it sounds more like an addiction
>> and ambition, and does no longer qualify as "healthy" per se, IMHO.
>
> I easily do over 150 miles this time of year. Doesn't seem much at
> all. Thats an hour before supper plus change. 50-60 is normal in ham
> eating season.
>

Well here in south Florida I tend to ride more miles in the "not summer"
season. I really can't call it winter. During the summer I only do real
rides early in the morning, on the bike by 7 or 7:30 am done by 9 or
9:30. And how many times a week I ride is limited by my crazy schedule.
But I agree 4 or 5 days a week riding a couple of hours a day isn't
really "too much" in my opinion.

Ken


 
Date: 12 Jun 2007 10:21:43
From: runcyclexcski@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Comment about the miles you ride
50-60 miles per week probably does qualify as an ivestment into your
health.
With 150-200 miles per week and more it sounds more like an addiction
and ambition, and does no longer qualify as "healthy" per se, IMHO.



  
Date: 13 Jun 2007 08:46:53
From: Michael Warner
Subject: Re: Comment about the miles you ride
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:21:43 -0700, runcyclexcski@yahoo.com wrote:

> With 150-200 miles per week and more it sounds more like an addiction
> and ambition, and does no longer qualify as "healthy" per se, IMHO.

150-200 miles would be a week off for me - I normally do 500-600km per week
(about 350 miles), comprising commuting and some group rides. It's rare
that I don't get out every day, since winters are quite mild and dry here.

Now, I'm single, working part-time, and pretty fast, and I can easily find
the time for this. Riders who'd like to be fitter and stronger but can't
because they have families and/or heavy work commitments aren't accused
of being addicted, ambitious or unhealthy, so why am I?

--
Home page: http://members.westnet.com.au/mvw


  
Date: 12 Jun 2007 20:51:18
From: Booker C. Bense
Subject: Re: Comment about the miles you ride
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In article <1181668903.617481.235310@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com >,
runcyclexcski@yahoo.com <runcyclexcski@yahoo.com > wrote:
>50-60 miles per week probably does qualify as an ivestment into your
>health.
>With 150-200 miles per week and more it sounds more like an addiction
>and ambition, and does no longer qualify as "healthy" per se, IMHO.
>

_ It's not mileage, but time.. 200 miles a week isn't all that
much for someone that can do 25mph in a group ride. It's a lot
if you doing 12-14mph tooling along by yourself. I think the
latest "recommendation" I've seen is 1 hr exercise per day,
that's somewhere between 75 and 150 miles a week for most
people.

If you want to stay in shape on a bike you have to commit to
more time than with other sports. An hour of running a day is
a lot, an hour of biking a day isn't unusual at all. I'd say if
you can't manage at least 5-6 hrs a week to ride, you'll not make
much progress on a bike unless you ride at an intensity that will
be difficult to maintain in the long run.

All depends on where you're starting from and what your goals
are, certainly something is better than nothing.

_ Booker C. Bense

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Date: 12 Jun 2007 17:43:18
From: Just A User
Subject: Re: Comment about the miles you ride
Booker C. Bense wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> In article <1181668903.617481.235310@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> runcyclexcski@yahoo.com <runcyclexcski@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 50-60 miles per week probably does qualify as an ivestment into your
>> health.
>> With 150-200 miles per week and more it sounds more like an addiction
>> and ambition, and does no longer qualify as "healthy" per se, IMHO.
>>
>
> _ It's not mileage, but time.. 200 miles a week isn't all that
> much for someone that can do 25mph in a group ride. It's a lot
> if you doing 12-14mph tooling along by yourself. I think the
> latest "recommendation" I've seen is 1 hr exercise per day,
> that's somewhere between 75 and 150 miles a week for most
> people.
>
> If you want to stay in shape on a bike you have to commit to
> more time than with other sports. An hour of running a day is
> a lot, an hour of biking a day isn't unusual at all. I'd say if
> you can't manage at least 5-6 hrs a week to ride, you'll not make
> much progress on a bike unless you ride at an intensity that will
> be difficult to maintain in the long run.
>
> All depends on where you're starting from and what your goals
> are, certainly something is better than nothing.
>

Well any time on the bike is better than nothing. Sure you can crank up
the intesity if you have limited time. But group rides at 25 mph? Who do
you ride with? I often see groups around here and I usually pass them
with ease. And I don't think I am riding that fast, unless my cycle
computer is REALLY out of touch with reality. I don't have it mounted
where I can see it while riding, but max speed is usually around 22 or
23 mph.

Ken



    
Date: 13 Jun 2007 20:46:16
From: Mike Jacoubowsky
Subject: Re: Comment about the miles you ride
> Well any time on the bike is better than nothing. Sure you can crank up
> the intesity if you have limited time. But group rides at 25 mph? Who do
> you ride with? I often see groups around here and I usually pass them with
> ease. And I don't think I am riding that fast, unless my cycle computer is
> REALLY out of touch with reality. I don't have it mounted where I can see
> it while riding, but max speed is usually around 22 or 23 mph.

At the TREK 100, a benefit ride for Midwest Athletes Childhood Cancer fund,
the lead group (pretty big group) did the 100 miles in 4 hours, 23
minutes... including all stops. And while it wasn't hilly, it wasn't
dead-flat either (about 3300ft of climbing). Plus it totally poured down
from the ski for a bit too. And a bunch of the guys in that group weren't
racers but local shop owners who don't have the time to get in serious
miles.

So yes, it's possible for a group to maintain near-25mph for quite a long
time (100 miles anyway!) and not be a pack of racers.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com




     
Date: 14 Jun 2007 06:47:30
From: Just A User
Subject: Re: Comment about the miles you ride
Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>> Well any time on the bike is better than nothing. Sure you can crank up
>> the intesity if you have limited time. But group rides at 25 mph? Who do
>> you ride with? I often see groups around here and I usually pass them with
>> ease. And I don't think I am riding that fast, unless my cycle computer is
>> REALLY out of touch with reality. I don't have it mounted where I can see
>> it while riding, but max speed is usually around 22 or 23 mph.
>
> At the TREK 100, a benefit ride for Midwest Athletes Childhood Cancer fund,
> the lead group (pretty big group) did the 100 miles in 4 hours, 23
> minutes... including all stops. And while it wasn't hilly, it wasn't
> dead-flat either (about 3300ft of climbing). Plus it totally poured down
> from the ski for a bit too. And a bunch of the guys in that group weren't
> racers but local shop owners who don't have the time to get in serious
> miles.
>
> So yes, it's possible for a group to maintain near-25mph for quite a long
> time (100 miles anyway!) and not be a pack of racers.
>
> --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
> www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
>
>
Oh Mike I am not saying it not possible, just my riding is done all
solo, perhaps in a group with the strongest riders out in front, letting
the weaker riders draft somewhat, it would be easier for a weaker rider
to maintain a higher speed.

Ken


    
Date: 13 Jun 2007 03:31:02
From: Booker C. Bense
Subject: Re: Comment about the miles you ride
In article <wr6dnURGRdjqjvLbnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d@giganews.com >,
Just A User <ken@up-yours-spammer.net > wrote:
>> All depends on where you're starting from and what your goals
>> are, certainly something is better than nothing.
>>
>
>Well any time on the bike is better than nothing. Sure you can crank up
>the intesity if you have limited time. But group rides at 25 mph? Who do
>you ride with?

_ I take it you've never heard of the noon ride in Woodside. I'm
more in the 12-14mph class myself, but 25mph on flat ground is
not that fast for a 1-2hr group ride.

> I often see groups around here and I usually pass them
>with ease. And I don't think I am riding that fast, unless my cycle
>computer is REALLY out of touch with reality. I don't have it mounted
>where I can see it while riding, but max speed is usually around 22 or
>23 mph.

_ There are a lot of really good riders around here. I generally
do about 20 mph on flat ground and I get passed a lot.

_ Booker C. Bense


     
Date: 13 Jun 2007 08:24:26
From: Just A User
Subject: Re: Comment about the miles you ride
Booker C. Bense wrote:
> In article <wr6dnURGRdjqjvLbnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> Just A User <ken@up-yours-spammer.net> wrote:
>>> All depends on where you're starting from and what your goals
>>> are, certainly something is better than nothing.
>>>
>> Well any time on the bike is better than nothing. Sure you can crank up
>> the intesity if you have limited time. But group rides at 25 mph? Who do
>> you ride with?
>
> _ I take it you've never heard of the noon ride in Woodside. I'm
> more in the 12-14mph class myself, but 25mph on flat ground is
> not that fast for a 1-2hr group ride.
>
I don't even know where woodside is.

>> I often see groups around here and I usually pass them
>> with ease. And I don't think I am riding that fast, unless my cycle
>> computer is REALLY out of touch with reality. I don't have it mounted
>> where I can see it while riding, but max speed is usually around 22 or
>> 23 mph.
>
> _ There are a lot of really good riders around here. I generally
> do about 20 mph on flat ground and I get passed a lot.

I don't know how fast I ride on level ground with little wind, but the
last time I had the cycle computer where I could see it, I was riding at
between 17 and 19 on flat ground. I have hit 25, but can't maintain it
for very long, certainly not 1 to 2 hours.

Ken