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Date: 14 Nov 2006 11:39:25
From: T Donily
Subject: Cycling health?
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Hey all,
At one point in my life, I used to put a minimum of 20 miles per day on my
bike as I used it as my priy mode of transportation, and a great way to
burn off tension. But now, some 12 or so years later, I've since torn
cartiledge in one knee and broken my kneecap in the other. What would be
your suggestions to being able to get back in the saddle? Thanks in advance
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Date: 15 Nov 2006 23:29:23
From: T Donily
Subject: Re: Cycling health?
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Thanks all for the advice. Especially that of the "Block Sender" as when
doing so it cleared quite a few emails of this list. I have never thought
of reducing the crank length. Didn't really know you could.
As for walking, I do that on a daily basis at my job. Being a machinist, we
have to move parts all over just to check them, or any other task that might
come up.
But when it comes to biking, the last time I tried to ride, I severely
overdid myself. I would get on and try to maintain my old around town
average of ~20-25 mph. And after three miles, and returning home, I'd have
to pretty much crawl back in the house. But I can only blame myself for
pushing that hard. I've never noticed that kind of pain when riding with my
kids though. Their "speed" is fairly mild when comparing their single or
5-speed to my 21 speed.
Again, thanks to those who offered help.
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 16:16:20
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Cycling health?
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"T Donily" <tdonily@allegiance.tv > wrote in message
news:1163655044_4229@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
> Thanks all for the advice. Especially that of the "Block Sender" as when
> doing so it cleared quite a few emails of this list. I have never thought
> of reducing the crank length. Didn't really know you could.
>
> As for walking, I do that on a daily basis at my job. Being a machinist,
> we have to move parts all over just to check them, or any other task that
> might come up.
>
> But when it comes to biking, the last time I tried to ride, I severely
> overdid myself. I would get on and try to maintain my old around town
> average of ~20-25 mph. And after three miles, and returning home, I'd
> have to pretty much crawl back in the house. But I can only blame myself
> for pushing that hard. I've never noticed that kind of pain when riding
> with my kids though. Their "speed" is fairly mild when comparing their
> single or 5-speed to my 21 speed.
>
> Again, thanks to those who offered help.
I am always glad to be of service to my fellow man. Always remember, dying
is not a bad solution to whatever ails you. That is my final word. No
charge.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 15 Nov 2006 12:40:01
From: Daryl Hunt
Subject: Re: Cycling health?
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"T Donily" <tdonily@allegiance.tv > wrote in message
news:1163526049_6397@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
> Hey all,
>
> At one point in my life, I used to put a minimum of 20 miles per day on my
> bike as I used it as my priy mode of transportation, and a great way to
> burn off tension. But now, some 12 or so years later, I've since torn
> cartiledge in one knee and broken my kneecap in the other. What would be
> your suggestions to being able to get back in the saddle? Thanks in
> advance
You might look at http://www.i70west.com and see what an electric/human
hybrid can do. I ride one on a daily basis. My right knee is blown out but
I still need to pedal for the rest of the body. I pedal and use the
electric all the time since I do live in a hilly area. Or, I just pedal for
other reasons.
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Date: 15 Nov 2006 10:11:43
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Subject: SPAM (please ignore)
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> Edward Dolan wrote:
> > "JP" <vze2wx8p@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > news:GYp6h.3185$fk2.3018@trndny02...
> >
> > ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!
> >
> > > This is one of the negative aspects of preserving freedom of speech.
> > > An idiot like Edward Dolan is guaranteed the protection to spew obnoxious
> > > nonsense.
> > > It's too bad that his public library allows him unrestricted internet
> > > access but our society
> > > has an obligation to care for its losers, no matter how repugnant they
> > > are.
> > >
> > > Edward you poor fool. A bicycle allows one who cannot walk extended
> > > mobility
> > > just as Minnesota's social services programs allows non-productive
> > > individuals like yourself
> > > the opportunity to secure food and shelter. Otherwise you would be prime
> > > material for a landfill.
> >
> > I just love discussions about dying and death since that is what I am really
> > into these days.
> >
> > JP sticks me as a striver, one of those pitiful creatures who is always
> > trying to improve himself and make the best of a situation. But why bother
> > since you are destined for the grave - and sooner than you think.
> >
> > Gentlemen, it is time for all of us to resign ourselves to our fate - which
> > is decay and death. Why fight it. I say go for it. Our bodies want to die
> > and so we need to get our minds on the same plane. Yea, death is good!
> >
> > Do you not tire of the eternal rounds of life? Do you not despair of your
> > prospects in this world? Are you not disgusted with your vile bodies? Well,
> > Hells Bells, if you aren't, then you should be!
> >
> > Saint Edward the Great urges all of you to get with the program, which is
> > death. All this palaver about health and life is an illusion. Lets face it,
> > you and I are nothing in the grand scheme of things. Let us return to the
> > star dust from which we came. Aye, dust to dust, a consummation devoutly to
> > be wished for.
> >
> > I only want to return to the state of oblivion where I will not have to deal
> > with idiots like JP, who does not have a clue about anything under the sun.
> > He thinks a bicycle can save him from decay and death! The Gods on Mount
> > Olympus are roaring with laughter at his effrontery.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> > aka
> > Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
> >
> >
> >
> > > "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> > > news:WPSdnUs8u9kGjsfYnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@prairiewave.com...
> > >>
> > >> "JP" <vze2wx8p@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > >> news:iNn6h.2179$%U.1770@trndny07...
> > >>
> > >> ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!
> > >>
> > >>> I had surgery on torn cartilege in the knee.
> > >>> If that's an option I would recommend it.
> > >>> If you can pedal without pain then do it.
> > >>> Use the lower gears to keep the stress off your joints,
> > >>> if you have to stand shifting to an easier gear will take the stress off
> > >>> your knees.
> > >>
> > >> It is the ultimate wisdom to know when to quit. If you can't walk, then
> > >> think about dying. No one in this world wants to be saddled with an
> > >> invalid. I suggest hanging yourself from a rafter in your dirt floor
> > >> basement, if you have one. This will rid the world of yet another
> > >> invalid. After all, how many invalids can this world afford?
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Date: 15 Nov 2006 19:22:16
From: Alan Erskine
Subject: Re: SPAM (please ignore)
|
"Earl Purple" <earlpurple@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1163614303.155617.144210@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> IAMGOD wrote:
And what are you doing, dickhead?
--
Alan Erskine
Alanerskine1@bigpond.com
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 01:28:34
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: SPAM (please ignore)
|
"Alan Erskine" <alanerskine1@bigpond.com > wrote in message
news:INJ6h.66643$rP1.21051@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> "Earl Purple" <earlpurple@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1163614303.155617.144210@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> IAMGOD wrote:
>
> And what are you doing, dickhead?
Hey Alan, here is a real troll for you to deal with. He is a mindless
spamming troll, but that is basically what all trolls do more or less. His
name is Ed Gin and he is the dickhead I have been forever telling the
newsgroups about as an example of a troll. He ruined ARBR and it will be
interesting to see if he can similarly ruin the other cycling newsgroups.
Good luck in reporting him to his email server and his ISP.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 15 Nov 2006 10:01:11
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: Cycling health?
|
In article <1163526049_6397@sp6iad.superfeed.net >,
"T Donily" <tdonily@allegiance.tv > writes:
> Hey all,
>
> At one point in my life, I used to put a minimum of 20 miles per day on my
> bike as I used it as my priy mode of transportation, and a great way to
> burn off tension. But now, some 12 or so years later, I've since torn
> cartiledge in one knee and broken my kneecap in the other. What would be
> your suggestions to being able to get back in the saddle? Thanks in advance
For "some" kind of professional medical advice, you might
be able to ask Dr. Gabe Mirkin via email:
http://www.drmirkin.com
He has some interesting takes on sports medicine, especially
wrt cycling. I hesitate to refer to, or regard him as some
sort of all-knowing oracle, though (as much as I do with
John Forester.) But he might come up with some (non-processed
carbohydrate) food for thought.
Personally, I know this much -- cycling doesn't have to be
any more stressful on joints than walking, unless you make
it so. So if you can walk, it seems to me you should be
also be able to pedal a bicycle. In fact, if cycling was
more difficult than walking, bicycles wouldn't have much
reason to exist.
I sincerely hope you get to fulfill your desire to return
to riding again.
cheers,
Tom
--
-- Nothing is safe from me.
Above address is just a spam midden.
I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca
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Date: 14 Nov 2006 13:36:00
From: Solvang Cyclist
Subject: Re: Cycling health?
|
"T Donily" <tdonily@allegiance.tv > wrote in news:1163526049_6397
@sp6iad.superfeed.net:
> What would be
> your suggestions to being able to get back in the saddle?
First, I would say you should talk to your doctor. But you might want to
consider a bike with lower gears, shorter cranks and Speedplay "X" series
pedals. The Speedplays have lots of side-to-side "float" which reduces
lateral stresses on the knees. I don't know if that would be enough, so
again - talk to your doctor(s).
Cheers,
David
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Date: 15 Nov 2006 09:08:53
From: T Donily
Subject: Re: Cycling health?
|
I'll look into these items. I'll have to pick my Dr's brain for what he
thinks should work. He recommends the Glucosemine for what it can do, I
just hope it works as well as they say.
Cyclist" <news@NOshierSPAM.com > wrote in message
news:Xns987B76015726AnewsNOshierSPAMcom@216.196.97.136...
> "T Donily" <tdonily@allegiance.tv> wrote in news:1163526049_6397
> @sp6iad.superfeed.net:
>
>> What would be
>> your suggestions to being able to get back in the saddle?
>
> First, I would say you should talk to your doctor. But you might want to
> consider a bike with lower gears, shorter cranks and Speedplay "X" series
> pedals. The Speedplays have lots of side-to-side "float" which reduces
> lateral stresses on the knees. I don't know if that would be enough, so
> again - talk to your doctor(s).
>
> Cheers,
> David
>
>
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Date: 14 Nov 2006 18:19:58
From: JP
Subject: Re: Cycling health?
|
I had surgery on torn cartilege in the knee.
If that's an option I would recommend it.
If you can pedal without pain then do it.
Use the lower gears to keep the stress off your joints,
if you have to stand shifting to an easier gear will take the stress off
your knees.
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Date: 14 Nov 2006 13:05:45
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Cycling health?
|
"JP" <vze2wx8p@verizon.net > wrote in message
news:iNn6h.2179$%U.1770@trndny07...
ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!
> I had surgery on torn cartilege in the knee.
> If that's an option I would recommend it.
> If you can pedal without pain then do it.
> Use the lower gears to keep the stress off your joints,
> if you have to stand shifting to an easier gear will take the stress off
> your knees.
It is the ultimate wisdom to know when to quit. If you can't walk, then
think about dying. No one in this world wants to be saddled with an invalid.
I suggest hanging yourself from a rafter in your dirt floor basement, if you
have one. This will rid the world of yet another invalid. After all, how
many invalids can this world afford?
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 15 Nov 2006 09:00:36
From: T Donily
Subject: Re: Cycling health?
|
Ed,
I saw no point in your response what so ever. I never said I couldn't move.
If you're so into death and whatnot, then take your advice. I was just
looking for advice to try to rebuild one's knees to take cycling again.
"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
news:WPSdnUs8u9kGjsfYnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>
> It is the ultimate wisdom to know when to quit. If you can't walk, then
> think about dying. No one in this world wants to be saddled with an
> invalid. I suggest hanging yourself from a rafter in your dirt floor
> basement, if you have one. This will rid the world of yet another invalid.
> After all, how many invalids can this world afford?
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
>
>
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 15:46:27
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Cycling health?
|
"T Donily" <tdonily@allegiance.tv > wrote in message
news:1163602917_3089@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!
> Ed,
>
> I saw no point in your response what so ever. I never said I couldn't
> move. If you're so into death and whatnot, then take your advice. I was
> just looking for advice to try to rebuild one's knees to take cycling
> again.
When you post a message to Usenet, you can expect to run the gamut of
possible responses. Since I am a Genius, you can always look forward to
unconventional responses. You should try to relax and appreciate how you
have been honored by a post from one so august as Myself.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> news:WPSdnUs8u9kGjsfYnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>
>>
>> It is the ultimate wisdom to know when to quit. If you can't walk, then
>> think about dying. No one in this world wants to be saddled with an
>> invalid. I suggest hanging yourself from a rafter in your dirt floor
>> basement, if you have one. This will rid the world of yet another
>> invalid. After all, how many invalids can this world afford?
|
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Date: 15 Nov 2006 16:04:18
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Cycling health?
|
T Donily wrote:
> Ed,
>
> I saw no point in your response what so ever. I never said I couldn't move.
> If you're so into death and whatnot, then take your advice. I was just
> looking for advice to try to rebuild one's knees to take cycling again.
>
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> news:WPSdnUs8u9kGjsfYnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>
>> It is the ultimate wisdom to know when to quit. If you can't walk, then
>> think about dying. No one in this world wants to be saddled with an
>> invalid. I suggest hanging yourself from a rafter in your dirt floor
>> basement, if you have one. This will rid the world of yet another invalid.
>> After all, how many invalids can this world afford?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>> aka
>> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>>
>>
>>
>
>
You have to consider the source. Ed is an attention seeking oddball.
Now,
On to you particulars. I went out for about 10 miles in the California
gloom today, only about 12-14 MPH since I had a 12 year old boy in tow.
I thought I could sneak out but went past the house where he moved and
got spotted.
Anyway, it was a very low stress ride since I was riding to a car parts
yard to look for some parts for my beater car, a 1988 Mazda in need of
an alternator. $17.00 if I pull it or $120 new plus maybe having someone
install it to keep my wife happy.
My next trip out there will be with wire racks on the bike so I can take
tools and drag home an alternator, another low stress business
(necessity) ride. I have 175mm cranks and did notice that my right leg
is getting all the bending it wants so in my case a 170mm on the right
may be beneficial. I shattered my right femur in a car wreck in 1970,
right into the knee socket, so know it is the sore one. The 5mm change
may not be all that much and it only adds up to 10mm or about 0.4" for
an entire stroke but every little bit counts.
If you were going from say a 180 down to a 165 (I think those are the
min and max available) you probably would notice the difference on your
legs.
BTW, if you can, just filter Dolan out since he never says anything
uplifting or for all that matter bike related. He claimed to be from the
recumbent group, but I have my doubts.
Thunderbird lets me filter the 'from' and 'to' fields but not the
message body itself so if somebody replies I still get it.
Good luck with all things on your end.
Bill Baka
Still half asleep and waiting for coffee to do it's magic.
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Date: 18 Nov 2006 16:10:45
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Cycling health?
|
"Bill" <bbaka@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:6UG6h.6466$Sw1.5295@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
>T Donily wrote:
>> Ed,
>>
>> I saw no point in your response what so ever. I never said I couldn't
>> move. If you're so into death and whatnot, then take your advice. I was
>> just looking for advice to try to rebuild one's knees to take cycling
>> again.
>>
>> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
>> news:WPSdnUs8u9kGjsfYnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>>
>>> It is the ultimate wisdom to know when to quit. If you can't walk, then
>>> think about dying. No one in this world wants to be saddled with an
>>> invalid. I suggest hanging yourself from a rafter in your dirt floor
>>> basement, if you have one. This will rid the world of yet another
>>> invalid. After all, how many invalids can this world afford?
>>
>>
> You have to consider the source. Ed is an attention seeking oddball.
No more so than you, Bill Baka!
> Now,
> On to you particulars. I went out for about 10 miles in the California
> gloom today, only about 12-14 MPH since I had a 12 year old boy in tow.
> I thought I could sneak out but went past the house where he moved and got
> spotted.
> Anyway, it was a very low stress ride since I was riding to a car parts
> yard to look for some parts for my beater car, a 1988 Mazda in need of an
> alternator. $17.00 if I pull it or $120 new plus maybe having someone
> install it to keep my wife happy.
What do you mean a 'beater car'? I also have a 1988 Mazda 626 and it is my
main car. When it goes, that will be the end of all a cars for me until I
depart this vale of woes. I am pretty sure there will be no cars in
Paradise. By the way, I love my Mazda as much as I have ever loved any car
(not much). I had a 1963 Volks Beetle for over 25 years and I gradually grew
to hate that car.
[...]
> BTW, if you can, just filter Dolan out since he never says anything
> uplifting or for all that matter bike related. He claimed to be from the
> recumbent group, but I have my doubts.
Ed Dolan the Great only says things that are of interest if you have a brain
in your head. Unfortunately, that lets out most of the denizens of these
cycling newsgroups. They are all idiots as I have proven time and time again
and even poor Bill Baka is give to delusions of grandeur. Where is Brickston
when he is needed?
> Thunderbird lets me filter the 'from' and 'to' fields but not the message
> body itself so if somebody replies I still get it.
T Donily, an asshole who has totally misspelled his own name, will never
want to filter the Great Ed Dolan. Where else will he ever get a perspective
on his own foolishness and idiocy. Aye, only Ed Dolan the Great can furnish
that kind of input - and for free too! It is just part of my noblesse oblige
which I confer on my inferiors as a superior being. Frankly, I am in awe of
my own nobility.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 14 Nov 2006 20:48:38
From: JP
Subject: Re: Cycling health?
|
This is one of the negative aspects of preserving freedom of speech.
An idiot like Edward Dolan is guaranteed the protection to spew obnoxious
nonsense.
It's too bad that his public library allows him unrestricted internet access
but our society
has an obligation to care for its losers, no matter how repugnant they are.
Edward you poor fool. A bicycle allows one who cannot walk extended
mobility
just as Minnesota's social services programs allows non-productive
individuals like yourself
the opportunity to secure food and shelter. Otherwise you would be prime
material for a landfill.
"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
news:WPSdnUs8u9kGjsfYnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>
> "JP" <vze2wx8p@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:iNn6h.2179$%U.1770@trndny07...
>
> ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!
>
>> I had surgery on torn cartilege in the knee.
>> If that's an option I would recommend it.
>> If you can pedal without pain then do it.
>> Use the lower gears to keep the stress off your joints,
>> if you have to stand shifting to an easier gear will take the stress off
>> your knees.
>
> It is the ultimate wisdom to know when to quit. If you can't walk, then
> think about dying. No one in this world wants to be saddled with an
> invalid. I suggest hanging yourself from a rafter in your dirt floor
> basement, if you have one. This will rid the world of yet another invalid.
> After all, how many invalids can this world afford?
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
>
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Date: 14 Nov 2006 15:43:35
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Cycling health?
|
"JP" <vze2wx8p@verizon.net > wrote in message
news:GYp6h.3185$fk2.3018@trndny02...
ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!
> This is one of the negative aspects of preserving freedom of speech.
> An idiot like Edward Dolan is guaranteed the protection to spew obnoxious
> nonsense.
> It's too bad that his public library allows him unrestricted internet
> access but our society
> has an obligation to care for its losers, no matter how repugnant they
> are.
>
> Edward you poor fool. A bicycle allows one who cannot walk extended
> mobility
> just as Minnesota's social services programs allows non-productive
> individuals like yourself
> the opportunity to secure food and shelter. Otherwise you would be prime
> material for a landfill.
I just love discussions about dying and death since that is what I am really
into these days.
JP sticks me as a striver, one of those pitiful creatures who is always
trying to improve himself and make the best of a situation. But why bother
since you are destined for the grave - and sooner than you think.
Gentlemen, it is time for all of us to resign ourselves to our fate - which
is decay and death. Why fight it. I say go for it. Our bodies want to die
and so we need to get our minds on the same plane. Yea, death is good!
Do you not tire of the eternal rounds of life? Do you not despair of your
prospects in this world? Are you not disgusted with your vile bodies? Well,
Hells Bells, if you aren't, then you should be!
Saint Edward the Great urges all of you to get with the program, which is
death. All this palaver about health and life is an illusion. Lets face it,
you and I are nothing in the grand scheme of things. Let us return to the
star dust from which we came. Aye, dust to dust, a consummation devoutly to
be wished for.
I only want to return to the state of oblivion where I will not have to deal
with idiots like JP, who does not have a clue about anything under the sun.
He thinks a bicycle can save him from decay and death! The Gods on Mount
Olympus are roaring with laughter at his effrontery.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> news:WPSdnUs8u9kGjsfYnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>>
>> "JP" <vze2wx8p@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:iNn6h.2179$%U.1770@trndny07...
>>
>> ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!
>>
>>> I had surgery on torn cartilege in the knee.
>>> If that's an option I would recommend it.
>>> If you can pedal without pain then do it.
>>> Use the lower gears to keep the stress off your joints,
>>> if you have to stand shifting to an easier gear will take the stress off
>>> your knees.
>>
>> It is the ultimate wisdom to know when to quit. If you can't walk, then
>> think about dying. No one in this world wants to be saddled with an
>> invalid. I suggest hanging yourself from a rafter in your dirt floor
>> basement, if you have one. This will rid the world of yet another
>> invalid. After all, how many invalids can this world afford?
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Date: 15 Nov 2006 00:49:40
From: JP
Subject: Re: Cycling health?
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You have as much insight as you do diplomatic skill, i.e. zero you poor =
loser.=20
I spend every day doing exactly what I want. I earn money without =
having a job.
I ride daily. Go to movies if I want. See friends. Play with my dog. =
Make love. Read.
Go online, buy toys for myself, trade stocks, write.
I don't strive, I'm not trying to better myself. Why should I? I have =
money in the bank,=20
a CPA does my taxes, my house is comfortable, my kids are healthy,
my only debt is my mortgage which is only 1/3 the value of the house
and I could pay off in cash but then I'd lose the deduction.
I'm healthy and so is my wife and after 28 years she's still hot and =
we're still in love. =20
I can see why you would be into dying because you are a pitiful loser.
I'm into living. When it's my time I'll go and I'll be thanking =
whatever
gods there are for giving me such a great life. I felt that way when I =
was broke
and in my twenties and I feel that way now. You can't possibly =
understand that
because you are a loser and nobody likes you and the nothingness of =
death
will be so much like the nothingness of your life that you may not know =
the difference.
Let me express the gratitude of your unborn children for not having to =
have you as a father.
And for the rest of humanity for your keeping your genetic potential =
unexpressed.
For a person who posts on biking groups you don't ever post about =
riding. =20
"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message =
news:-tKdnaEgfIwEpcfYnZ2dnUVZ_qadnZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>=20
>=20
> I just love discussions about dying and death since that is what I am =
really=20
> into these days.
>=20
> JP sticks me as a striver, one of those pitiful creatures who is =
always=20
> trying to improve himself and make the best of a situation. But why =
bother=20
> since you are destined for the grave - and sooner than you think.
>=20
> Gentlemen, it is time for all of us to resign ourselves to our fate - =
which=20
> is decay and death. Why fight it. I say go for it. Our bodies want to =
die=20
> and so we need to get our minds on the same plane. Yea, death is good!
>=20
> Do you not tire of the eternal rounds of life? Do you not despair of =
your=20
> prospects in this world? Are you not disgusted with your vile bodies? =
Well,=20
> Hells Bells, if you aren't, then you should be!
>=20
> Saint Edward the Great urges all of you to get with the program, which =
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> death. All this palaver about health and life is an illusion. Lets =
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> you and I are nothing in the grand scheme of things. Let us return to =
the=20
> star dust from which we came. Aye, dust to dust, a consummation =
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> be wished for.
>=20
> I only want to return to the state of oblivion where I will not have =
to deal=20
> with idiots like JP, who does not have a clue about anything under the =
sun.=20
> He thinks a bicycle can save him from decay and death! The Gods on =
Mount=20
> Olympus are roaring with laughter at his effrontery.
>=20
> Regards,
>=20
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>=20
>=20
>=20
>> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message=20
>> news:WPSdnUs8u9kGjsfYnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>>>
>>> "JP" <vze2wx8p@verizon.net> wrote in message=20
>>> news:iNn6h.2179$%U.1770@trndny07...
>>>
>>> ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!
>>>
>>>> I had surgery on torn cartilege in the knee.
>>>> If that's an option I would recommend it.
>>>> If you can pedal without pain then do it.
>>>> Use the lower gears to keep the stress off your joints,
>>>> if you have to stand shifting to an easier gear will take the =
stress off=20
>>>> your knees.
>>>
>>> It is the ultimate wisdom to know when to quit. If you can't walk, =
then=20
>>> think about dying. No one in this world wants to be saddled with an=20
>>> invalid. I suggest hanging yourself from a rafter in your dirt floor =
>>> basement, if you have one. This will rid the world of yet another=20
>>> invalid. After all, how many invalids can this world afford?
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Date: 14 Nov 2006 22:51:27
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Cycling health?
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"JP" <vze2wx8p@verizon.net > wrote in message
news:Eut6h.4793$T_.885@trndny06...
ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!
You have as much insight as you do diplomatic skill, i.e. zero you poor
loser.
I spend every day doing exactly what I want. I earn money without having a
job.
I ride daily. Go to movies if I want. See friends. Play with my dog. Make
love.
>You should not be making love unless you are wanting to make babies.
Read.
Go online, buy toys for myself, trade stocks, write.
I don't strive, I'm not trying to better myself. Why should I? I have
money in the bank,
a CPA does my taxes, my house is comfortable, my kids are healthy,
my only debt is my mortgage which is only 1/3 the value of the house
and I could pay off in cash but then I'd lose the deduction.
I'm healthy and so is my wife and after 28 years she's still hot and we're
still in love.
>You should not be making love unless you are wanting to make babies.
I can see why you would be into dying because you are a pitiful loser.
I'm into living. When it's my time I'll go and I'll be thanking whatever
gods there are for giving me such a great life. I felt that way when I was
broke
and in my twenties and I feel that way now. You can't possibly understand
that
because you are a loser and nobody likes you and the nothingness of death
will be so much like the nothingness of your life that you may not know the
difference.
Let me express the gratitude of your unborn children for not having to have
you as a father.
And for the rest of humanity for your keeping your genetic potential
unexpressed.
>I don't give a damn about the future of the human race, let alone your
>children.
For a person who posts on biking groups you don't ever post about riding.
>I just have never gotten around to it. Too many idiots like you to dispose
>of first.
>But I did not want a resume of your life, I wanted some thoughts about
>dying and death since that is what I am into. Try to get focused on what I
>want to talk about, not what you want to talk about.
>By the way, you will never become a human being for me until you use your
>real name.
>Regards,
>Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>aka
>Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
news:-tKdnaEgfIwEpcfYnZ2dnUVZ_qadnZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>
>
> I just love discussions about dying and death since that is what I am
> really
> into these days.
>
> JP sticks me as a striver, one of those pitiful creatures who is always
> trying to improve himself and make the best of a situation. But why bother
> since you are destined for the grave - and sooner than you think.
>
> Gentlemen, it is time for all of us to resign ourselves to our fate -
> which
> is decay and death. Why fight it. I say go for it. Our bodies want to die
> and so we need to get our minds on the same plane. Yea, death is good!
>
> Do you not tire of the eternal rounds of life? Do you not despair of your
> prospects in this world? Are you not disgusted with your vile bodies?
> Well,
> Hells Bells, if you aren't, then you should be!
>
> Saint Edward the Great urges all of you to get with the program, which is
> death. All this palaver about health and life is an illusion. Lets face
> it,
> you and I are nothing in the grand scheme of things. Let us return to the
> star dust from which we came. Aye, dust to dust, a consummation devoutly
> to
> be wished for.
>
> I only want to return to the state of oblivion where I will not have to
> deal
> with idiots like JP, who does not have a clue about anything under the
> sun.
> He thinks a bicycle can save him from decay and death! The Gods on Mount
> Olympus are roaring with laughter at his effrontery.
>
>> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
>> news:WPSdnUs8u9kGjsfYnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>>>
>>> "JP" <vze2wx8p@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:iNn6h.2179$%U.1770@trndny07...
>>>
>>> ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!
>>>
>>>> I had surgery on torn cartilege in the knee.
>>>> If that's an option I would recommend it.
>>>> If you can pedal without pain then do it.
>>>> Use the lower gears to keep the stress off your joints,
>>>> if you have to stand shifting to an easier gear will take the stress
>>>> off
>>>> your knees.
>>>
>>> It is the ultimate wisdom to know when to quit. If you can't walk, then
>>> think about dying. No one in this world wants to be saddled with an
>>> invalid. I suggest hanging yourself from a rafter in your dirt floor
>>> basement, if you have one. This will rid the world of yet another
>>> invalid. After all, how many invalids can this world afford?
>
>
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Date: 15 Nov 2006 05:08:49
From: JP
Subject: Re: Cycling health?
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It should be obvious by now poor stupid Eddie.
I don't give a f*ck what you want.
You are a loser, a troll, a wannabe poet/philosopher and a frustrated
virgin.
But obviously not a cyclist.
"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
news:pcadnZ9mj6N-AcfYnZ2dnUVZ_sOdnZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>
> "JP" <vze2wx8p@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:Eut6h.4793$T_.885@trndny06...
>
> ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!
>
> You have as much insight as you do diplomatic skill, i.e. zero you poor
> loser.
> I spend every day doing exactly what I want. I earn money without having
> a job.
> I ride daily. Go to movies if I want. See friends. Play with my dog.
> Make love.
>
>>You should not be making love unless you are wanting to make babies.
>
> Read.
> Go online, buy toys for myself, trade stocks, write.
> I don't strive, I'm not trying to better myself. Why should I? I have
> money in the bank,
> a CPA does my taxes, my house is comfortable, my kids are healthy,
> my only debt is my mortgage which is only 1/3 the value of the house
> and I could pay off in cash but then I'd lose the deduction.
> I'm healthy and so is my wife and after 28 years she's still hot and we're
> still in love.
>
>>You should not be making love unless you are wanting to make babies.
>
> I can see why you would be into dying because you are a pitiful loser.
> I'm into living. When it's my time I'll go and I'll be thanking whatever
> gods there are for giving me such a great life. I felt that way when I
> was broke
> and in my twenties and I feel that way now. You can't possibly understand
> that
> because you are a loser and nobody likes you and the nothingness of death
> will be so much like the nothingness of your life that you may not know
> the difference.
> Let me express the gratitude of your unborn children for not having to
> have you as a father.
> And for the rest of humanity for your keeping your genetic potential
> unexpressed.
>
>>I don't give a damn about the future of the human race, let alone your
>>children.
>
> For a person who posts on biking groups you don't ever post about riding.
>
>>I just have never gotten around to it. Too many idiots like you to dispose
>>of first.
>
>>But I did not want a resume of your life, I wanted some thoughts about
>>dying and death since that is what I am into. Try to get focused on what I
>>want to talk about, not what you want to talk about.
>
>>By the way, you will never become a human being for me until you use your
>>real name.
>
>>Regards,
>
>>Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>>aka
>>Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
>
>
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> news:-tKdnaEgfIwEpcfYnZ2dnUVZ_qadnZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>>
>>
>> I just love discussions about dying and death since that is what I am
>> really
>> into these days.
>>
>> JP sticks me as a striver, one of those pitiful creatures who is always
>> trying to improve himself and make the best of a situation. But why
>> bother
>> since you are destined for the grave - and sooner than you think.
>>
>> Gentlemen, it is time for all of us to resign ourselves to our fate -
>> which
>> is decay and death. Why fight it. I say go for it. Our bodies want to die
>> and so we need to get our minds on the same plane. Yea, death is good!
>>
>> Do you not tire of the eternal rounds of life? Do you not despair of your
>> prospects in this world? Are you not disgusted with your vile bodies?
>> Well,
>> Hells Bells, if you aren't, then you should be!
>>
>> Saint Edward the Great urges all of you to get with the program, which is
>> death. All this palaver about health and life is an illusion. Lets face
>> it,
>> you and I are nothing in the grand scheme of things. Let us return to the
>> star dust from which we came. Aye, dust to dust, a consummation devoutly
>> to
>> be wished for.
>>
>> I only want to return to the state of oblivion where I will not have to
>> deal
>> with idiots like JP, who does not have a clue about anything under the
>> sun.
>> He thinks a bicycle can save him from decay and death! The Gods on Mount
>> Olympus are roaring with laughter at his effrontery.
>>
>>> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
>>> news:WPSdnUs8u9kGjsfYnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>>>>
>>>> "JP" <vze2wx8p@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:iNn6h.2179$%U.1770@trndny07...
>>>>
>>>> ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!
>>>>
>>>>> I had surgery on torn cartilege in the knee.
>>>>> If that's an option I would recommend it.
>>>>> If you can pedal without pain then do it.
>>>>> Use the lower gears to keep the stress off your joints,
>>>>> if you have to stand shifting to an easier gear will take the stress
>>>>> off
>>>>> your knees.
>>>>
>>>> It is the ultimate wisdom to know when to quit. If you can't walk, then
>>>> think about dying. No one in this world wants to be saddled with an
>>>> invalid. I suggest hanging yourself from a rafter in your dirt floor
>>>> basement, if you have one. This will rid the world of yet another
>>>> invalid. After all, how many invalids can this world afford?
>>
>>
>
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Date: 15 Nov 2006 01:54:49
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Cycling health?
|
"JP" <vze2wx8p@verizon.net > wrote in message
news:Bhx6h.7116$bj1.856@trndny05...
> It should be obvious by now poor stupid Eddie.
> I don't give a f*ck what you want.
Watch that profanity there JP. Some will take offense at it. Not I, of
course, since I KNOW that words cannot hurt me. I have been called every
name in the book by members of these newsgroups. Nothing can affect me
(other than a penetrating intelligence), I assure you.
> You are a loser, a troll, a wannabe poet/philosopher
Yea, I am a philosopher but not the modern variety like Bertrand Russell.
Nay, I go back to the Greeks and the Romans where philosophy was all about
how we should live. I have read many of the Western philosophers, but it is
a dead end. Philosophy never got any better than the Greeks and the Romans.
I cannot ever be a poet as I have no talent for it. It is all I can do to
write a literate post to these newsgroups.
There is presently a troll on these newsgroups who is spamming with names
and addresses, Yes, it is mindless, but that is the true nature of all
trolls. Look how I am responding to you here and now. Nay, I am not a troll
and never have been. I am contentious and obnoxious, but that has nothing to
do with being a troll.
Me, a loser, nay ... I consider myself to be a winner in the sweepstakes of
life. Why? Because I have spent my life listening to the compositions of
such as Beethoven, Brahms, etc. and reading books such as Gibbon's Decline
and Fall... , Toynbee's A Study of History, etc.
and a frustrated
> virgin.
A virgin is the only thing to be unless you are a depraved wretch like so
many. The one and only purpose for engaging in sex is to procreate. If you
engage in sex for any other reason, then you are depraved and a wretch. I do
not ever engage in sex casually like you and so many others do. I assure
you, there is no frustration whatsoever.
> But obviously not a cyclist.
I must admit I do not cycle as much as I used to, but then I don't do
anything as much as I used to. It is what comes of getting old. Some
mornings I get up and say screw it and go back to bed. The older you get the
less there is to live for. How is that for a little philosophy?
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 14 Nov 2006 23:22:17
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Cycling health?
|
"JP" <vze2wx8p@verizon.net > wrote in message
news:Bhx6h.7116$bj1.856@trndny05...
ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!
> It should be obvious by now poor stupid Eddie.
> I don't give a f*ck what you want.
> You are a loser, a troll, a wannabe poet/philosopher and a frustrated
> virgin.
> But obviously not a cyclist.
Yea, I am merely Great as my signature testifies. But I am also a Great
Saint. This is an aspect of Myself that most others are not able to
appreciate at all. That is because they are mired in sin as you are what
with all that love making without any issue. What an abomination you are in
the sight of man and God.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> news:pcadnZ9mj6N-AcfYnZ2dnUVZ_sOdnZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>>
>> "JP" <vze2wx8p@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:Eut6h.4793$T_.885@trndny06...
>>
>> ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!
>>
>> You have as much insight as you do diplomatic skill, i.e. zero you poor
>> loser.
>> I spend every day doing exactly what I want. I earn money without having
>> a job.
>> I ride daily. Go to movies if I want. See friends. Play with my dog.
>> Make love.
>>
>>>You should not be making love unless you are wanting to make babies.
>>
>> Read.
>> Go online, buy toys for myself, trade stocks, write.
>> I don't strive, I'm not trying to better myself. Why should I? I have
>> money in the bank,
>> a CPA does my taxes, my house is comfortable, my kids are healthy,
>> my only debt is my mortgage which is only 1/3 the value of the house
>> and I could pay off in cash but then I'd lose the deduction.
>> I'm healthy and so is my wife and after 28 years she's still hot and
>> we're still in love.
>>
>>>You should not be making love unless you are wanting to make babies.
>>
>> I can see why you would be into dying because you are a pitiful loser.
>> I'm into living. When it's my time I'll go and I'll be thanking whatever
>> gods there are for giving me such a great life. I felt that way when I
>> was broke
>> and in my twenties and I feel that way now. You can't possibly
>> understand that
>> because you are a loser and nobody likes you and the nothingness of death
>> will be so much like the nothingness of your life that you may not know
>> the difference.
>> Let me express the gratitude of your unborn children for not having to
>> have you as a father.
>> And for the rest of humanity for your keeping your genetic potential
>> unexpressed.
>>
>>>I don't give a damn about the future of the human race, let alone your
>>>children.
>>
>> For a person who posts on biking groups you don't ever post about riding.
>>
>>>I just have never gotten around to it. Too many idiots like you to
>>>dispose of first.
>>
>>>But I did not want a resume of your life, I wanted some thoughts about
>>>dying and death since that is what I am into. Try to get focused on what
>>>I want to talk about, not what you want to talk about.
>>
>>>By the way, you will never become a human being for me until you use your
>>>real name.
>>
>> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
>> news:-tKdnaEgfIwEpcfYnZ2dnUVZ_qadnZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>>>
>>>
>>> I just love discussions about dying and death since that is what I am
>>> really
>>> into these days.
>>>
>>> JP sticks me as a striver, one of those pitiful creatures who is always
>>> trying to improve himself and make the best of a situation. But why
>>> bother
>>> since you are destined for the grave - and sooner than you think.
>>>
>>> Gentlemen, it is time for all of us to resign ourselves to our fate -
>>> which
>>> is decay and death. Why fight it. I say go for it. Our bodies want to
>>> die
>>> and so we need to get our minds on the same plane. Yea, death is good!
>>>
>>> Do you not tire of the eternal rounds of life? Do you not despair of
>>> your
>>> prospects in this world? Are you not disgusted with your vile bodies?
>>> Well,
>>> Hells Bells, if you aren't, then you should be!
>>>
>>> Saint Edward the Great urges all of you to get with the program, which
>>> is
>>> death. All this palaver about health and life is an illusion. Lets face
>>> it,
>>> you and I are nothing in the grand scheme of things. Let us return to
>>> the
>>> star dust from which we came. Aye, dust to dust, a consummation devoutly
>>> to
>>> be wished for.
>>>
>>> I only want to return to the state of oblivion where I will not have to
>>> deal
>>> with idiots like JP, who does not have a clue about anything under the
>>> sun.
>>> He thinks a bicycle can save him from decay and death! The Gods on Mount
>>> Olympus are roaring with laughter at his effrontery.
>>>
>>>> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:WPSdnUs8u9kGjsfYnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> "JP" <vze2wx8p@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:iNn6h.2179$%U.1770@trndny07...
>>>>>
>>>>> ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!
>>>>>
>>>>>> I had surgery on torn cartilege in the knee.
>>>>>> If that's an option I would recommend it.
>>>>>> If you can pedal without pain then do it.
>>>>>> Use the lower gears to keep the stress off your joints,
>>>>>> if you have to stand shifting to an easier gear will take the stress
>>>>>> off
>>>>>> your knees.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is the ultimate wisdom to know when to quit. If you can't walk,
>>>>> then
>>>>> think about dying. No one in this world wants to be saddled with an
>>>>> invalid. I suggest hanging yourself from a rafter in your dirt floor
>>>>> basement, if you have one. This will rid the world of yet another
>>>>> invalid. After all, how many invalids can this world afford?
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Date: 14 Nov 2006 18:33:42
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Cycling health?
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JP wrote:
> I had surgery on torn cartilege in the knee.
> If that's an option I would recommend it.
> If you can pedal without pain then do it.
> Use the lower gears to keep the stress off your joints,
> if you have to stand shifting to an easier gear will take the stress off
> your knees.
>
>
So far so good at 58. I'm not trying to compete, except maybe blowing
off the random teenage hot shot. No pain yet but since my mother had
terrible arthritis I am expecting it sooner or later. Lower gears when I
sit and higher when I attack, as in not wanting to lose speed up a short
hill. No 500 foot climb attacks for me. No real stress on my knees when
I stand, maybe because I have an unusual way of doing it. I jump up and
let my full body weight push the pedal down. Very rarely do I ever put
so much force out that I have to pull up on the bars.
So far, mellow has served me well.
Bill Baka
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Date: 14 Nov 2006 21:03:45
From: JP
Subject: Re: Cycling health?
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"Bill" <bbaka@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:a_n6h.5719$IR4.1913@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
> JP wrote:
>> I had surgery on torn cartilege in the knee.
>> If that's an option I would recommend it.
>> If you can pedal without pain then do it.
>> Use the lower gears to keep the stress off your joints,
>> if you have to stand shifting to an easier gear will take the stress off
>> your knees.
> So far so good at 58. I'm not trying to compete, except maybe blowing off
> the random teenage hot shot. No pain yet but since my mother had terrible
> arthritis I am expecting it sooner or later. Lower gears when I sit and
> higher when I attack, as in not wanting to lose speed up a short hill. No
> 500 foot climb attacks for me. No real stress on my knees when I stand,
> maybe because I have an unusual way of doing it. I jump up and let my full
> body weight push the pedal down. Very rarely do I ever put so much force
> out that I have to pull up on the bars.
> So far, mellow has served me well.
> Bill Baka
Arthritis is the end result of exploring your physical limits.
A body without wear and tear is evidence of a life not lived to capacity.
I've earned every goddamn wrinkle, gray hair and creaky joint I have.
Isn' t it the patina that gives an antique it's beauty and it's value?
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Date: 14 Nov 2006 15:54:11
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Cycling health?
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"JP" <vze2wx8p@verizon.net > wrote in message
news:Raq6h.1232$8u1.901@trndny04...
>
> "Bill" <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:a_n6h.5719$IR4.1913@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
>> JP wrote:
>>> I had surgery on torn cartilege in the knee.
>>> If that's an option I would recommend it.
>>> If you can pedal without pain then do it.
>>> Use the lower gears to keep the stress off your joints,
>>> if you have to stand shifting to an easier gear will take the stress off
>>> your knees.
>
>> So far so good at 58. I'm not trying to compete, except maybe blowing off
>> the random teenage hot shot. No pain yet but since my mother had terrible
>> arthritis I am expecting it sooner or later. Lower gears when I sit and
>> higher when I attack, as in not wanting to lose speed up a short hill. No
>> 500 foot climb attacks for me. No real stress on my knees when I stand,
>> maybe because I have an unusual way of doing it. I jump up and let my
>> full body weight push the pedal down. Very rarely do I ever put so much
>> force out that I have to pull up on the bars.
>> So far, mellow has served me well.
>> Bill Baka
>
> Arthritis is the end result of exploring your physical limits.
> A body without wear and tear is evidence of a life not lived to capacity.
> I've earned every goddamn wrinkle, gray hair and creaky joint I have.
> Isn' t it the patina that gives an antique it's beauty and it's value?
JP is not far from wrong here. Arthritis does not kill you, it only makes
you wish you were dead. Anyone with a brain in your head think modern
medicine is ever going to solve the arthritis problem?
I remember when Jimmy Stewart was asked how old he was, he responded that he
was 66 years of age and he felt every god damn one of them. I have always
liked him for that rek.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 14 Nov 2006 21:24:38
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Cycling health?
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JP wrote:
> "Bill" <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:a_n6h.5719$IR4.1913@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
>> JP wrote:
>>> I had surgery on torn cartilege in the knee.
>>> If that's an option I would recommend it.
>>> If you can pedal without pain then do it.
>>> Use the lower gears to keep the stress off your joints,
>>> if you have to stand shifting to an easier gear will take the stress off
>>> your knees.
>> So far so good at 58. I'm not trying to compete, except maybe blowing off
>> the random teenage hot shot. No pain yet but since my mother had terrible
>> arthritis I am expecting it sooner or later. Lower gears when I sit and
>> higher when I attack, as in not wanting to lose speed up a short hill. No
>> 500 foot climb attacks for me. No real stress on my knees when I stand,
>> maybe because I have an unusual way of doing it. I jump up and let my full
>> body weight push the pedal down. Very rarely do I ever put so much force
>> out that I have to pull up on the bars.
>> So far, mellow has served me well.
>> Bill Baka
>
> Arthritis is the end result of exploring your physical limits.
> A body without wear and tear is evidence of a life not lived to capacity.
> I've earned every goddamn wrinkle, gray hair and creaky joint I have.
> Isn' t it the patina that gives an antique it's beauty and it's value?
>
>
No truer truth. I have earned every scar.
Bill Baka
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Date: 14 Nov 2006 21:11:36
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Cycling health?
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JP wrote:
> Arthritis is the end result of exploring your physical limits.
> A body without wear and tear is evidence of a life not lived to
> capacity. I've earned every goddamn wrinkle, gray hair and creaky
> joint I have. Isn' t it the patina that gives an antique it's beauty
> and it's value?
Nice rationalization. I think I'll steal it.
Bill "gray in goatee is from chlorine in hot tub (I can rationalize/delude,
too)" S.
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Date: 14 Nov 2006 18:08:30
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Cycling health?
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T Donily wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> At one point in my life, I used to put a minimum of 20 miles per day on my
> bike as I used it as my priy mode of transportation, and a great way to
> burn off tension. But now, some 12 or so years later, I've since torn
> cartiledge in one knee and broken my kneecap in the other. What would be
> your suggestions to being able to get back in the saddle? Thanks in advance
>
Did you tear yourself up while trying to be Joe racer or just in the
course of putting on miles? I just pile up miles and only race out of
the saddle so my knees do get killed.
Bill Baka
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Date: 15 Nov 2006 23:35:51
From: T Donily
Subject: Re: Cycling health?
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>>
> Did you tear yourself up while trying to be Joe racer or just in the
> course of putting on miles? I just pile up miles and only race out of the
> saddle so my knees do get killed.
> Bill Baka
Hi Bill,
Actually, I was torn up while at a previous employer. The place had a
couple "strategic" leaks that would arrise when it would rain. And when you
add that to the tile floors we had... I slipped and hit the floor. Tearing
cartiledge in my right knee. It was aided by some arthroscopic surgery and
doesn't put up too much of a fuss. The other knee happed at the same place,
but there I was headed down a set of stairs, in the usual hasty fashion of
mine, and turned a corner smacking my left knee into a metal rack. Which in
turn broke a chunk of the upper left corner of my left kneecap. I knew it
hurt like mad, but didn't think anything of it. Until two years later when
it really started acting up, but was too late to do anything outside of
re-breaking it.
So now, I have been taking Glucosemine tablets. It seems to help. I just
need to learn to slow down and recall that I'm no longer 20 years old.
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 14:12:18
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Cycling health?
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T Donily wrote:
>> Did you tear yourself up while trying to be Joe racer or just in the
>> course of putting on miles? I just pile up miles and only race out of the
>> saddle so my knees do get killed.
>> Bill Baka
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> Actually, I was torn up while at a previous employer. The place had a
> couple "strategic" leaks that would arrise when it would rain. And when you
> add that to the tile floors we had... I slipped and hit the floor. Tearing
> cartiledge in my right knee. It was aided by some arthroscopic surgery and
> doesn't put up too much of a fuss. The other knee happed at the same place,
> but there I was headed down a set of stairs, in the usual hasty fashion of
> mine, and turned a corner smacking my left knee into a metal rack. Which in
> turn broke a chunk of the upper left corner of my left kneecap. I knew it
> hurt like mad, but didn't think anything of it. Until two years later when
> it really started acting up, but was too late to do anything outside of
> re-breaking it.
>
> So now, I have been taking Glucosemine tablets. It seems to help. I just
> need to learn to slow down and recall that I'm no longer 20 years old.
>
>
That is a big "Damn". Did you get compensated enough for it, their
negligence? That is a pretty bad reason to screw up the rest of you
cycling and athletic life.
I survived a major car accident and just have to put up with the pops
and crunches in the knees. Damned if it will stop me from riding though.
I also only rarely go over 20 MPH on the flats since I would rather put
on 60 miles at 15 MPH than wear myself out at 20 MPH and wind up only
doing 20 miles. More miles means a better overall workout to me.
My opinion. I am not training to race, just for a century (years).
Bill Baka
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 11:01:19
From: T Donily
Subject: Re: Cycling health?
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> That is a big "Damn". Did you get compensated enough for it, their
> negligence? That is a pretty bad reason to screw up the rest of you
> cycling and athletic life.
> I survived a major car accident and just have to put up with the pops and
> crunches in the knees. Damned if it will stop me from riding though.
> I also only rarely go over 20 MPH on the flats since I would rather put on
> 60 miles at 15 MPH than wear myself out at 20 MPH and wind up only doing
> 20 miles. More miles means a better overall workout to me.
> My opinion. I am not training to race, just for a century (years).
> Bill Baka
>
The fall I was compensated for, but the other wasn't as the company has
since folded and my one witness I have no idea where they have gotten off
too.
Anymore, since it's been so long, I don't really have any idea as to what my
abilities would be. My numbers were back when I around 20 or so. Living in
Portland, OR, I'd climb hills averaging about 12 mph. My bike at the time
was a "Target special" mountain bike that I had placed a road tire on for
commuting.
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Date: 16 Nov 2006 17:07:27
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Cycling health?
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T Donily wrote:
>> That is a big "Damn". Did you get compensated enough for it, their
>> negligence? That is a pretty bad reason to screw up the rest of you
>> cycling and athletic life.
>> I survived a major car accident and just have to put up with the pops and
>> crunches in the knees. Damned if it will stop me from riding though.
>> I also only rarely go over 20 MPH on the flats since I would rather put on
>> 60 miles at 15 MPH than wear myself out at 20 MPH and wind up only doing
>> 20 miles. More miles means a better overall workout to me.
>> My opinion. I am not training to race, just for a century (years).
>> Bill Baka
>>
>
> The fall I was compensated for, but the other wasn't as the company has
> since folded and my one witness I have no idea where they have gotten off
> too.
>
> Anymore, since it's been so long, I don't really have any idea as to what my
> abilities would be. My numbers were back when I around 20 or so. Living in
> Portland, OR, I'd climb hills averaging about 12 mph. My bike at the time
> was a "Target special" mountain bike that I had placed a road tire on for
> commuting.
>
Hell.
I only average about 12-15 on long rides. Who am I supposed to impress?
Getting there and snickering at the gas prices is half the fun.
Bill Baka
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Date: 14 Nov 2006 11:56:24
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Cycling health?
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"T Donily" <tdonily@allegiance.tv > wrote in message
news:1163526049_6397@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
> Hey all,
>
> At one point in my life, I used to put a minimum of 20 miles per day on my
> bike as I used it as my priy mode of transportation, and a great way to
> burn off tension. But now, some 12 or so years later, I've since torn
> cartiledge in one knee and broken my kneecap in the other. What would be
> your suggestions to being able to get back in the saddle? Thanks in
> advance
My advice would be to forget about it. Since you can no longer walk easily,
you are doomed and you should get ready to lie down in your casket. They
shoot horses, don't they?
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 14 Nov 2006 18:22:09
From: JP
Subject: Re: Cycling health?
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Four blocks from your taxpayer subsidized room is a drug rehab facility.
You should make an appointment with a counselor to try and deal with
your addiction to crank. Right now meth is just screwing with your mind,
soon it may kill you.
"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
news:fomdnWiysdXGnsfYnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>
> "T Donily" <tdonily@allegiance.tv> wrote in message
> news:1163526049_6397@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
>> Hey all,
>>
>> At one point in my life, I used to put a minimum of 20 miles per day on
>> my bike as I used it as my priy mode of transportation, and a great
>> way to burn off tension. But now, some 12 or so years later, I've since
>> torn cartiledge in one knee and broken my kneecap in the other. What
>> would be your suggestions to being able to get back in the saddle?
>> Thanks in advance
>
> My advice would be to forget about it. Since you can no longer walk
> easily, you are doomed and you should get ready to lie down in your
> casket. They shoot horses, don't they?
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
>
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Date: 14 Nov 2006 13:11:18
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: Cycling health?
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"JP" <vze2wx8p@verizon.net > wrote in message
news:lPn6h.907$672.867@trndny01...
ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!
> Four blocks from your taxpayer subsidized room is a drug rehab facility.
> You should make an appointment with a counselor to try and deal with
> your addiction to crank. Right now meth is just screwing with your mind,
> soon it may kill you.
Wine is the only thing for us civilized types. Those who resort to anything
else are barbarians. This is well known as is attested to by the ancient
Greeks and Romans.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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