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Date: 18 Aug 2006 08:29:00
From: Ken C. M.
Subject: Deep water???
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The other day on my commute to work I had to ride through some pretty deep standing water due to heavy rain. In one spot the water was only about and inch or two under the center of the hubs on my 700c commuting bike. So I guess this is a question and a poll: Whats the deepest water you have ridden through? Any dangers (other than moving water and objects hidden by water) that a rider should be aware of in deep water? Ken -- Messengers and mountain bikers share a common chromosome. ~James Bethea
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 19:01:18
From: Smokey
Subject: Re: Deep water???
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catzz66 wrote: > Ken C. M. wrote: > > The other day on my commute to work I had to ride through some pretty > > deep standing water due to heavy rain. In one spot the water was only > > about and inch or two under the center of the hubs on my 700c commuting > > bike. > > > > So I guess this is a question and a poll: > > Whats the deepest water you have ridden through? > > Any dangers (other than moving water and objects hidden by water) that a > > rider should be aware of in deep water? > > > > Ken > > > Last time I dumped my bike happened in two inch deep water. It is real > easy to hit something you can't see when riding in water. Of course, > living in Texas I have very little experience riding in the rain. It is > probably a lot easier to get used to riding in the rain if you actually > see rain once in a while. =] I too know the perils of riding in water and hitting things. I was riding on one of my favorite MTB trails here in MO and came to a creek crossing. The water was clear and didn't look too deep so I decided to ride it. I found out two things; the water was deeper than it looked and I couldn't see all the rocks. I hit one and toppled over in a true Laugh In trike type fall. I shouldered the bike and finished the crossing, then continued my ride. Got home and cleaned and lubed everything and the bike (Fisher lin HT) didn't seem any worse for wear. Now I'm a lot more cautious with water crossings. Smokey
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 18:47:12
From: Smokey
Subject: Re: Deep water???
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catzz66 wrote: > Ken C. M. wrote: > > The other day on my commute to work I had to ride through some pretty > > deep standing water due to heavy rain. In one spot the water was only > > about and inch or two under the center of the hubs on my 700c commuting > > bike. > > > > So I guess this is a question and a poll: > > Whats the deepest water you have ridden through? > > Any dangers (other than moving water and objects hidden by water) that a > > rider should be aware of in deep water? > > > > Ken > > > Last time I dumped my bike happened in two inch deep water. It is real > easy to hit something you can't see when riding in water. Of course, > living in Texas I have very little experience riding in the rain. It is > probably a lot easier to get used to riding in the rain if you actually > see rain once in a while. =] I too know the perils of riding in water and hitting things. I was riding on one of my favorite MTB trails here in MO and came to a creek crossing. The water was clear and didn't look too deep so I decided to ride it. I found out two things; the water was deeper than it looked and I couldn't see all the rocks. I hit one and toppled over in a true Laugh In trike type fall. I shouldered the bike and finished the crossing, then continued my ride. Got home and cleaned and lubed everything and the bike (Fisher lin HT) didn't seem any worse for wear. Now I'm a lot more cautious with water crossings. Smokey
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 14:06:35
From: Dane Buson
Subject: Re: Deep water???
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Ken C. M. <ken@up-yours-spammer.net > wrote: > The other day on my commute to work I had to ride through some pretty > deep standing water due to heavy rain. In one spot the water was only > about and inch or two under the center of the hubs on my 700c commuting > bike. > > So I guess this is a question and a poll: > Whats the deepest water you have ridden through? I think I posted about it in the thread Claire mentioned. > Any dangers (other than moving water and objects hidden by water) that a > rider should be aware of in deep water? If you ride your bike through the fountain in Mercer Edwards park, be aware that it is of varying depth. Also, you will more likely than not (if you are doing this late at night), attract the attention of drunken young women who will want to ride your bike. -- Dane Buson - sigdane@unixbigots.org It typically takes 25-30 gallons of petrol/diesel to fully-consume an average-sized body under ideal conditions. That I am conversant with this level of detail should serve as an indication of why the wise man does not ask me questions about MS-Windows. --Tanuki the Raccoon-dog
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 14:46:12
From: Dane Buson
Subject: Re: Deep water???
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Dane Buson <dane@unseen.edu > wrote: > > If you ride your bike through the fountain in Mercer Edwards park, be > aware that it is of varying depth. Also, you will more likely than not > (if you are doing this late at night), attract the attention of drunken > young women who will want to ride your bike. Correction: I think it's Cal Anderson Park. -- Dane Buson - sigdane@unixbigots.org <RadAghazt > I bought rice vinegar to make sushi. Now to figure out how. <RadAghazt > Ok. There are instructions on the bottle, but... <RadAghazt > they're in Japanese. At least I think they're instructions. <RadAghazt > This might say "death to all gaijin with this poisoned export rice vinegar" for all I know.
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Date: 26 Aug 2006 00:47:19
From: Claire Petersky
Subject: Re: Deep water???
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"Dane Buson" <dane@unseen.edu > wrote in message news:4m74s3-fcc.ln1@zuvembi.homelinux.org... > Dane Buson <dane@unseen.edu> wrote: >> >> If you ride your bike through the fountain in Mercer Edwards park, be >> aware that it is of varying depth. Also, you will more likely than not >> (if you are doing this late at night), attract the attention of drunken >> young women who will want to ride your bike. > > Correction: I think it's Cal Anderson Park. You mean the wading pool there? Or do you mean the water feature http://www.historylink.org/db_images/seattle_calparkwater2005.jpg? Or even, the reservoir http://www.historylink.org/db_images/seattle_lincolnres1999.jpg (can't imagine that's bicycle-able)? -- Warm Regards, Claire Petersky http://www.bicyclemeditations.org/ See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky
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Date: 26 Aug 2006 02:47:03
From: Dane Buson
Subject: Re: Deep water???
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Claire Petersky <cpetersky@mouse-potato.com > wrote: > "Dane Buson" <dane@unseen.edu> wrote in message > news:4m74s3-fcc.ln1@zuvembi.homelinux.org... >> Dane Buson <dane@unseen.edu> wrote: >>> >>> If you ride your bike through the fountain in Mercer Edwards park, be >>> aware that it is of varying depth. Also, you will more likely than not >>> (if you are doing this late at night), attract the attention of drunken >>> young women who will want to ride your bike. >> >> Correction: I think it's Cal Anderson Park. > > You mean the wading pool there? Or do you mean the water feature > http://www.historylink.org/db_images/seattle_calparkwater2005.jpg? Or even, > the reservoir > http://www.historylink.org/db_images/seattle_lincolnres1999.jpg (can't > imagine that's bicycle-able)? The water feature bit. It would help if I had been there in the daytime since they redid it. For the last year or so I just ignored it since it's been surrounded by a fence. I'll have to check it out next time I'm up that way. -- Dane Buson - sigdane@unixbigots.org There is a remedy for everything; it is called death. --Portuguese Proverb
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 21:40:48
From: Bill Baka
Subject: Re: Deep water???
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Dane Buson wrote: > If you ride your bike through the fountain in Mercer Edwards park, be > aware that it is of varying depth. Also, you will more likely than not > (if you are doing this late at night), attract the attention of drunken > young women who will want to ride your bike. > And that is a problem for us male types how????? Bill Baka
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Date: 22 Aug 2006 21:25:04
From: Booker C. Bense
Subject: Re: Deep water???
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Date: 22 Aug 2006 21:15:32
From: Roger Zoul
Subject: Re: Deep water???
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Booker C. Bense wrote: :: When we were kids we used to throw our bikes in the lake :: and ride underwater for as long as we could hold our :: breath. :: That sounds like a Bill Baka story! :)
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Date: 23 Aug 2006 18:45:55
From: Bill Baka
Subject: Re: Deep water???
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Roger Zoul wrote: > Booker C. Bense wrote: > > :: When we were kids we used to throw our bikes in the lake > :: and ride underwater for as long as we could hold our > :: breath. > :: > > That sounds like a Bill Baka story! :) > > I might have tried it if I had thought of it when I was a kid. All these stories confirm I am not the only one who does oddball stuff. I would tie a rope on the bike before trying to actually ride under the water though so it would be easier to haul back up. Kids don't usually plan ahead, I try to but don't always. I never tried riding across a freezing river at 15 degrees or so. My fall over crossing deep water was at about 50 degrees and was only mildly embarrassing, even though the red necks had a good laugh at a 50 something guy even trying it. Like I said before I won a free beer and about ten minutes of BS'ing for the effort. As long as I am still breathing I will be both riding and doing whatever comes to mind at the time. Life is for having fun, so yeah, I do accumulate so 'Bill Baka' stories. When I do go out on a road bike and stay on the pavement there usually isn't that much to comment on. Next thread. Bill Baka
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Date: 22 Aug 2006 06:25:27
From: Steve McDonald
Subject: Re: Deep water???
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I once rode a borrowed bike through flood waters that had come up from a river, onto a bikepath. It was about a foot deep, but I thought I could make it through. However, a section of the concrete path had washed out and I took a spill. The bike disappeared into the murky, fast-moving water (did I mention that it was 2:00 am and that a freeze of 28 degrees had set in?) I couldn't find the bike at first and had to go into waist-deep water, feeling around with my feet. I finally located it, about 20 feet downstream. I was soaked and numb, but I managed to ride it two miles home. I couldn't get my hands to turn the doorknob, but my girlfriend was there to let me in. I survived without frostbite and I didn't have to buy my friend a new bike. How could you ask for a better riding experience than that? There are too many lessons in all that, to even count. I was so exhilerated by it, that I bought my own bike the next day (and one for the girlfriend) and began my adult phase of bikeriding, which is still going. Steve McDonald Eugene, Oregon
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Date: 22 Aug 2006 14:53:00
From: Chris Z The Wheelman
Subject: Re: Deep water???
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Steve McDonalds post reminded me of when Me and my younger brother took our bikes up camping with us in the Sierras one summer. I had a Schwinn Varsity, which was not as "useful" compared to his Stingray (which was in the process of being converted ino a BMX bike). On a dare, he rode his bike down the pier and jumped it off the end. It stayed at the bottom of that 7,000 foot elevation High Sierra lake for two hours until we could talk our father into swimming the 30 feet down and tie a rope to it so we could haul it back up! - - Comments and opinions compliments of, "Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman" My web Site: http://geocities.com/czcorner To E-mail me: ChrisZCorner "at" webtv "dot" net
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Date: 22 Aug 2006 19:06:51
From: Mark Hickey
Subject: Re: Deep water???
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dedendaddy4spammers@webtv.net (Chris Z The Wheelman) wrote: >Steve McDonalds post reminded me of when Me and my younger brother took >our bikes up camping with us in the Sierras one summer. I had a Schwinn >Varsity, which was not as "useful" compared to his Stingray (which was >in the process of being converted ino a BMX bike). > >On a dare, he rode his bike down the pier and jumped it off the end. It >stayed at the bottom of that 7,000 foot elevation High Sierra lake for >two hours until we could talk our father into swimming the 30 feet down >and tie a rope to it so we could haul it back up! That reminded me of the worst bicycle water-logging I ever participated in. I was living in the Florida Keys and a bunch of my Navy buddies were having an adult beverage party. A young lady rode her bike (a "Conch Cruiser" - the rustier the better is the philosophy) to the party, and before long someone had the bright idea of riding it off the pier. So we took turns riding the hapless bike off a long wooden pier into the ocean. The water was about 12 feet deep, so it was a major effort to retrieve it each time, but that didn't seem like a problem at the time. She got the bike back, but I'm sure it didn't last a week before all the moving parts stopped doing that. k Hickey Habanero Cycles http://www.habcycles.com Home of the $795 ti frame
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Date: 23 Aug 2006 15:28:07
From: Roger Zoul
Subject: Re: Deep water???
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k Hickey wrote: :: That reminded me of the worst bicycle water-logging I ever :: participated in. I was living in the Florida Keys and a bunch of my :: Navy buddies were having an adult beverage party. A young lady rode :: her bike (a "Conch Cruiser" - the rustier the better is the :: philosophy) to the party, and before long someone had the bright idea :: of riding it off the pier. :: :: So we took turns riding the hapless bike off a long wooden pier into :: the ocean. The water was about 12 feet deep, so it was a major :: effort to retrieve it each time, but that didn't seem like a problem :: at the time. :: :: She got the bike back, but I'm sure it didn't last a week before all :: the moving parts stopped doing that. I bet she has some kind of bike phobia to this day!
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Date: 22 Aug 2006 14:59:41
From: R Brickston
Subject: Re: Deep water???
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On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 06:25:27 -0700, bigrocketman3@webtv.net (Steve McDonald) wrote: > > I once rode a borrowed bike through flood waters that had come up >from a river, onto a bikepath. It was about a foot deep, but I thought >I could make it through. However, a section of the concrete path had >washed out and I took a spill. The bike disappeared into the murky, >fast-moving water (did I mention that it was 2:00 am and that a freeze >of 28 degrees had set in?) I couldn't find the bike at first and had to >go into waist-deep water, feeling around with my feet. I finally >located it, about 20 feet downstream. I was soaked and numb, but I >managed to ride it two miles home. I couldn't get my hands to turn the >doorknob, but my girlfriend was there to let me in. I survived without >frostbite and I didn't have to buy my friend a new bike. How could you >ask for a better riding experience than that? There are too many >lessons in all that, to even count. I was so exhilerated by it, that I >bought my own bike the next day (and one for the girlfriend) and began >my adult phase of bikeriding, which is still going. > >Steve McDonald >Eugene, Oregon Well, did you get you laid or not?
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Date: 22 Aug 2006 10:27:16
From: Roger Zoul
Subject: Re: Deep water???
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Steve McDonald wrote: :: I once rode a borrowed bike through flood waters that had come up :: from a river, onto a bikepath. It was about a foot deep, Why did you do that, Steve? Would you do it again? :)
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 23:15:28
From: Chris Z The Wheelman
Subject: Re: Deep water???
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On my road bike only a couple of inches. On my MOUNTAIN bike, well, let's just say I'm glad the hubs and BB were packed with waterproof grease... - - Comments and opinions compliments of, "Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman" My web Site: http://geocities.com/czcorner To E-mail me: ChrisZCorner "at" webtv "dot" net
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 17:40:33
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: Deep water???
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In article <pan.2006.08.18.09.59.08.682727@bill-linux.site >, Bill Baka <Bill@bill-linux.site > writes: > I tried that once and the only problem was that the water kept getting > deeper as I went. Keep in mind that I was trying to cross a 1 mile road > that was flooded in farmland. At about the half mile point of serious > pedaling it got over my bracket and I couldn't pedal hard enough to keep > my balance and went over sideways into some pretty cold water. After > picking myself up and heading back (the water kept getting deeper) I heard > laughing coming from my starting point. The 2 red necks watching me were > betting I would not make it and they were right. That did earn me a free > beer when I got back to them and some BS'ing about the dumbest thing they > had ever seen anyone attempt on a bicycle. > Figures I would be the one to win that bet. I recall an old TV commercial where a hardcore MTB guy observes a little kid on his kiddie bike, riding through a little puddle and gleefully exclaiming "Whee!" as the water splashes up from his tires. So the hardcore MTB guy takes his cue from the kid and rides into a /deep/ puddle on a country dirt road -- submerging out of sight like a U-boat for a few moments, and then emerging on the other side, where he takes off his now muddy shades and smugly mutters to himself in sotto voce: "Whee." I forget which product the advert was flogging. I guess whomever created it was more of an Artist than a keteer. cheers, Tom -- -- Nothing is safe from me. Above address is just a spam midden. I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca
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Date: 22 Aug 2006 14:46:15
From: Chris Z The Wheelman
Subject: Re: Deep water???
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Group: rec.bicycles.misc Date: Fri, Aug 18, 2006, 5:40pm (EDT-3) From: tkeats2005@hotmail.com (Tom=A0Keats) >I recall an old TV commercial where a >hardcore MTB guy observes a little kid >on his kiddie bike, riding through a little >puddle and gleefully exclaiming "Whee!" >as the water splashes up from his tires. >So the hardcore MTB guy takes his cue >from the kid and rides into a /deep/ >puddle on a country dirt road -- >submerging out of sight like a U-boat for >a few moments, and then emerging on >the other side, where he takes off his >now muddy shades and smugly mutters >to himself in sotto voce: "Whee." >cheers, >=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Tom Oh, I would have loved to see that commercial! :-3) - - Comments and opinions compliments of, "Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman" My web Site: http://geocities.com/czcorner To E-mail me: ChrisZCorner "at" webtv "dot" net
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Date: 19 Aug 2006 23:49:12
From: Mike Kruger
Subject: Re: Deep water???
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"Tom Keats" <tkeats2005@hotmail.com > wrote in message news:1mm5ce.l0u1.ln@vcn.bc.ca... > > I recall an old TV commercial where a hardcore MTB guy observes > a little kid on his kiddie bike, riding through a little puddle > and gleefully exclaiming "Whee!" as the water splashes up from > his tires. So the hardcore MTB guy takes his cue from the kid > and rides into a /deep/ puddle on a country dirt road -- submerging > out of sight like a U-boat for a few moments, and then emerging on > the other side, where he takes off his now muddy shades and smugly > mutters to himself in sotto voce: "Whee." > One winter, I rode across a shallow creek that I took to be well-frozen. It wasn't, and I went in deep enough to flood the bottom bracket. I stayed upright, but my shoes and socks were soaked. I was also about 30-35 miles back to my car. I wandered off at the next highway, found a Menard's (midwestern home improvement center), bought some wool socks and put them on, with a Menard's plastic bag between the socks and my soaked shoes. The cartridge bottom bracket failed a couple of months later.
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 10:28:04
From: gds
Subject: Re: Deep water???
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Bill Baka wrote: Keep in mind that I was trying to cross a 1 mile road > that was flooded That's a pretty wide road!
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 14:22:47
From: Roger Zoul
Subject: Re: Deep water???
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gds wrote: :: Bill Baka wrote: :: :: :: Keep in mind that I was trying to cross a 1 mile road ::: that was flooded :: :: That's a pretty wide road! Sure the heck is, huh? Sounds as if he had to go down into a low point to get to the road before crossing it. So, he must have been on one road while trying to cross another. The road he was on must have been covered with water. What I don't get is why would anyone ever try this? Riding a skinny bike tire over ground I can't see seems to make little sense.
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 16:59:04
From: Bill Baka
Subject: Re: Deep water???
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On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 08:29:00 -0400, Ken C. M. wrote: > The other day on my commute to work I had to ride through some pretty > deep standing water due to heavy rain. In one spot the water was only > about and inch or two under the center of the hubs on my 700c commuting > bike. > > So I guess this is a question and a poll: > Whats the deepest water you have ridden through? > Any dangers (other than moving water and objects hidden by water) that a > rider should be aware of in deep water? > > Ken I tried that once and the only problem was that the water kept getting deeper as I went. Keep in mind that I was trying to cross a 1 mile road that was flooded in farmland. At about the half mile point of serious pedaling it got over my bracket and I couldn't pedal hard enough to keep my balance and went over sideways into some pretty cold water. After picking myself up and heading back (the water kept getting deeper) I heard laughing coming from my starting point. The 2 red necks watching me were betting I would not make it and they were right. That did earn me a free beer when I got back to them and some BS'ing about the dumbest thing they had ever seen anyone attempt on a bicycle. Figures I would be the one to win that bet. Bill Baka
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 11:09:35
From: catzz66
Subject: Re: Deep water???
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Ken C. M. wrote: > The other day on my commute to work I had to ride through some pretty > deep standing water due to heavy rain. In one spot the water was only > about and inch or two under the center of the hubs on my 700c commuting > bike. > > So I guess this is a question and a poll: > Whats the deepest water you have ridden through? > Any dangers (other than moving water and objects hidden by water) that a > rider should be aware of in deep water? > > Ken Last time I dumped my bike happened in two inch deep water. It is real easy to hit something you can't see when riding in water. Of course, living in Texas I have very little experience riding in the rain. It is probably a lot easier to get used to riding in the rain if you actually see rain once in a while. =]
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 14:51:26
From: Claire Petersky
Subject: Re: Deep water???
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"Ken C. M." <ken@up-yours-spammer.net > wrote in message news:g_2dnbOnMtkSL3jZnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@giganews.com... > Whats the deepest water you have ridden through? http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.misc/browse_frm/thread/2bbb1f7bb3200937/202e2145b580c21a?lnk=st&q=She+Who+Bicycles+With+Fishes&rnum=1&hl=en#202e2145b580c21a or http://tinyurl.com/p4job -- Warm Regards, Claire Petersky http://www.bicyclemeditations.org/ See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 10:58:52
From: Ken C. M.
Subject: Re: Deep water???
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Claire Petersky wrote: > "Ken C. M." <ken@up-yours-spammer.net> wrote in message > news:g_2dnbOnMtkSL3jZnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@giganews.com... > > >>Whats the deepest water you have ridden through? > > > http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.misc/browse_frm/thread/2bbb1f7bb3200937/202e2145b580c21a?lnk=st&q=She+Who+Bicycles+With+Fishes&rnum=1&hl=en#202e2145b580c21a > > or http://tinyurl.com/p4job > > I figured it was already covered here in the past however it seems like there is a pretty good turnover rate with the people who post here and thought it might be good to re-visit the topic. Thanks for looking it up. Ken -- Messengers and mountain bikers share a common chromosome. ~James Bethea
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 15:26:27
From: Claire Petersky
Subject: Re: Deep water???
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"Ken C. M." <ken@up-yours-spammer.net > wrote in message news:pc6dnYQwscIySHjZnZ2dnUVZ_qadnZ2d@giganews.com... > Claire Petersky wrote: >> "Ken C. M." <ken@up-yours-spammer.net> wrote in message >> news:g_2dnbOnMtkSL3jZnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@giganews.com... >> >>>Whats the deepest water you have ridden through? >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.misc/browse_frm/thread/2bbb1f7bb3200937/202e2145b580c21a?lnk=st&q=She+Who+Bicycles+With+Fishes&rnum=1&hl=en#202e2145b580c21a >> >> or http://tinyurl.com/p4job > > I figured it was already covered here in the past however it seems like > there is a pretty good turnover rate with the people who post here and > thought it might be good to re-visit the topic. Thanks for looking it up. Oh, I didn't post the old thread to say, "Look, this was covered (with water?) in the past". That's kind of obnoxious, and there's always new people in the group, and we're here in part to share our personal experience. Rather, I put it up there just to give a pointer to a post I wrote about on the deepest water I've gone through. -- Warm Regards, Claire Petersky http://www.bicyclemeditations.org/ See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 09:52:45
From: Roger Zoul
Subject: Re: Deep water???
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Ken C. M. wrote: :: So I guess this is a question and a poll: :: Whats the deepest water you have ridden through? :: Any dangers (other than moving water and objects hidden by water) :: that a rider should be aware of in deep water? If I can't see the road, I'm not riding over it. Plain and simple.
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 06:24:44
From: Buck
Subject: Re: Deep water???
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Ken C. M. wrote: > Whats the deepest water you have ridden through? I rode through the flood waters of tropical storm Allison. It was the only way to leave the house. At the curb in front of my house, the water was over the top bar (~ 30"). It was good to be on a single-speed cruiser that was destined for the trash. It had too many problems to be salvageable. That ride finished the job and the bike went into the trash heap along with the carpet, the drywall, lots of furniture.... -Buck
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 08:01:55
From: Pat Lamb
Subject: Re: Deep water???
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Ken C. M. wrote: > The other day on my commute to work I had to ride through some pretty > deep standing water due to heavy rain. In one spot the water was only > about and inch or two under the center of the hubs on my 700c commuting > bike. > > So I guess this is a question and a poll: > Whats the deepest water you have ridden through? > Any dangers (other than moving water and objects hidden by water) that a > rider should be aware of in deep water? I've crossed a stream at a ford a few times; the water was usually 6-8" deep. Usually had the pedals horizontal, and at least one foot unclipped to keep the shoe dry... You might want to check the lube in your bottom bracket, and re-lube your rear derailer and chain if they were submerged. Pat
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 05:57:00
From: Mark Hickey
Subject: Re: Deep water???
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"Ken C. M." <ken@up-yours-spammer.net > wrote: >So I guess this is a question and a poll: >Whats the deepest water you have ridden through? >Any dangers (other than moving water and objects hidden by water) that a >rider should be aware of in deep water? I've ridden through murky, mineral-laden Florida water over the hubs. Big mistake. I got to tear down a nearly-new bike and repack the hubs and bottom bracket (fortunately it wasn't a sealed "throw-away" BB). k Hickey Habanero Cycles http://www.habcycles.com Home of the $795 ti frame
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 15:46:13
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Subject: Re: Deep water???
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k Hickey <k@habcycles.com > wrote: > "Ken C. M." <ken@up-yours-spammer.net> wrote: > >So I guess this is a question and a poll: > >Whats the deepest water you have ridden through? > >Any dangers (other than moving water and objects hidden by water) that a > >rider should be aware of in deep water? > I've ridden through murky, mineral-laden Florida water over the hubs. > Big mistake. I got to tear down a nearly-new bike and repack the hubs > and bottom bracket (fortunately it wasn't a sealed "throw-away" BB). Back in May I rode the Jordan River Parkway in Salt Lake Valley. Where the path goes under the 201 Freeway there was about 4" of water -- no big deal. Came back in June and there was still water, so I went for it again. This time it turned out to be over a foot deep. There was a park about a quarter mile further on, so I stopped, placed bike, shoes, and socks in the sun, and took a half-hour siesta. The soaking finished off a pair of aging shoes, and soon afterward my bottom bracket started making a sort of clicking/crunching noise. I am currently going stir crazy because the bike is in the shop for a general tune-up and replacement of the bottom bracket bearings. Next time I ride that trail and the sign says there's high water, I'll walk the bike over the rip-rap slope above the trail. Bill __o
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 15:29:58
From: Martin Borsje
Subject: Re: Deep water???
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k Hickey thought the world would like to know that... > "Ken C. M." <ken@up-yours-spammer.net> wrote: > >> So I guess this is a question and a poll: >> Whats the deepest water you have ridden through? >> Any dangers (other than moving water and objects hidden by water) that a >> rider should be aware of in deep water? > > I've ridden through murky, mineral-laden Florida water over the hubs. > Big mistake. I got to tear down a nearly-new bike and repack the hubs > and bottom bracket (fortunately it wasn't a sealed "throw-away" BB). > > k Hickey > Habanero Cycles > http://www.habcycles.com > Home of the $795 ti frame Most of the time the water you ride through is colder than the surrounding ambient air. This means that when a a BB or hub gets submerged, the air in it cools, contracts and sucks water in it. This even when the units are sealed, because this sealing is not strong enough to overcome the pressure difference. -- Posted by news://news.nb.nu
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 10:16:48
From: Ken C. M.
Subject: Re: Deep water???
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tin Borsje wrote: > k Hickey thought the world would like to know that... > >> "Ken C. M." <ken@up-yours-spammer.net> wrote: >> >>> So I guess this is a question and a poll: >>> Whats the deepest water you have ridden through? >>> Any dangers (other than moving water and objects hidden by water) >>> that a rider should be aware of in deep water? >> >> >> I've ridden through murky, mineral-laden Florida water over the hubs. >> Big mistake. I got to tear down a nearly-new bike and repack the hubs >> and bottom bracket (fortunately it wasn't a sealed "throw-away" BB). >> > > Most of the time the water you ride through is colder than the > surrounding ambient air. > > This means that when a a BB or hub gets submerged, the air in it cools, > contracts and sucks water in it. This even when the units are sealed, > because this sealing is not strong enough to overcome the pressure > difference. > > Sounds like a reasonable theory as to why sealed bearings don't last as long as many think they should. I am not too disappointed in the miles per dollar I have gotten out of my commuter so far. It wasn't an expensive bike, but not exactly /cheap/ either. Bike was about $500 u.s. and now has about 4500 miles on it. So even if I need to replace / rebuild / repack some bearings, I still think the bike has served me well. Ken -- Messengers and mountain bikers share a common chromosome. ~James Bethea
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 09:05:47
From: Ken C. M.
Subject: Re: Deep water???
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k Hickey wrote: > "Ken C. M." <ken@up-yours-spammer.net> wrote: > > >>So I guess this is a question and a poll: >>Whats the deepest water you have ridden through? >>Any dangers (other than moving water and objects hidden by water) that a >>rider should be aware of in deep water? > > > I've ridden through murky, mineral-laden Florida water over the hubs. > Big mistake. I got to tear down a nearly-new bike and repack the hubs > and bottom bracket (fortunately it wasn't a sealed "throw-away" BB). > Oh joy! Something I should look forward to doing! Well at least my bb is already showing signs of wear anyway. I don't recall if that area was submerged but it must have been pretty close if it wasn't. And even if it wasn't under water I am sure some got splashed up in there. And mine is a sealed unit. Ken -- Messengers and mountain bikers share a common chromosome. ~James Bethea
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