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Date: 31 May 2007 10:10:47
From: Pete Derkowski
Subject: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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I ride a road bike and used a mirror that clips onto the frame of my
glasses - but I found it took quite a lot of time to get the small mirror
'just right' ... to the point where I almost ended up in trouble once
glancing up into the mirror and moving it around more than keeping my eyes
on where I was going.
I just bought one of those mirrors that plugs into the end of the
handlebar... I have drop bars.... it just has one pivot point on it though,
and its OK, but not great... the mirror is a lot bigger (2-3 inches in dia)
than the glass frame clip type. I think an extra pivot point would do the
trick.
Wondering what other road riders use... is there a decent mirror that plugs
into the drop bar - choices are limited in my area, so I bought what I
thought was the best I could find.
Pete Derkowski
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Date: 02 Jun 2007 20:20:08
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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On Jun 2, 10:54 am, R Brickston <rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@ > wrote:
> On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 13:51:48 -0000, Ozark Bicycle
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>
>
> <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
> >On Jun 2, 7:15 am, "Pete Derkowski" <crafty...@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
> >> According to the drawing at the top of the home page, it looks like it would
> >> be opitonal - they show an arrro pointing both ways.
>
> >I gave the drawings a cursory glance on my way to the photos. I missed
> >the detail re:the leds. Thanks for setting me straight.
>
> >> I had heard about a frame mounted mirror, but hadn't seen one. Now I've
> >> got something to look into. :-)
>
> >FWIW, I use a Zefal Cyclop on my errand/utility bike, the one bike I
> >regularly use in relatively high traffic areas. It works great, IME/O;
> >good field of vision, no problem with vibration. Here's a link from
> >Zefal:
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/2wwx7p
>
> Uhh...I don't think that's the right link.
>
Should be:
http://tinyurl.com/2wxx7p
and then click on 'Cyclop' on the left.
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Date: 02 Jun 2007 13:51:48
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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On Jun 2, 7:15 am, "Pete Derkowski" <crafty...@nycap.rr.com > wrote:
> According to the drawing at the top of the home page, it looks like it would
> be opitonal - they show an arrro pointing both ways.
I gave the drawings a cursory glance on my way to the photos. I missed
the detail re:the leds. Thanks for setting me straight.
>
> I had heard about a frame mounted mirror, but hadn't seen one. Now I've
> got something to look into. :-)
FWIW, I use a Zefal Cyclop on my errand/utility bike, the one bike I
regularly use in relatively high traffic areas. It works great, IME/O;
good field of vision, no problem with vibration. Here's a link from
Zefal:
http://tinyurl.com/2wwx7p
They're available here in the US in the ~$15 price range.
>
> Pete Derkowski
>
> "Ozark Bicycle" <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1180783188.106873.254360@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Jun 2, 1:28 am, "Gary Smiley" <gasmi...@castcom.net> wrote:
>
> > <snipped>
>
> > - on bicycle mirrors -
>
> >> Has anyone seen or tried the Pan-A-View Fork-Mounted mirror?
> >> Here is the URL:http://www.panaviewfmm.com/
> >> Let me know what you think.
>
> > The guy behind this is a very experienced cyclist (i.e., not a know-
> > nothing opportunist nor a crackpot). Other than that, it's hard to say
> > anything without actually trying one. Perhaps it offers something
> > under really high traffic conditions that other mirrors don't (?). I
> > would prefer that the LED thingy were optional/detachble.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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Date: 02 Jun 2007 15:54:25
From: R Brickston
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 13:51:48 -0000, Ozark Bicycle
<bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:
>On Jun 2, 7:15 am, "Pete Derkowski" <crafty...@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>> According to the drawing at the top of the home page, it looks like it would
>> be opitonal - they show an arrro pointing both ways.
>
>
>
>I gave the drawings a cursory glance on my way to the photos. I missed
>the detail re:the leds. Thanks for setting me straight.
>
>
>>
>> I had heard about a frame mounted mirror, but hadn't seen one. Now I've
>> got something to look into. :-)
>
>FWIW, I use a Zefal Cyclop on my errand/utility bike, the one bike I
>regularly use in relatively high traffic areas. It works great, IME/O;
>good field of vision, no problem with vibration. Here's a link from
>Zefal:
>
>http://tinyurl.com/2wwx7p
Uhh...I don't think that's the right link.
>They're available here in the US in the ~$15 price range.
>
>
>>
>> Pete Derkowski
>>
>> "Ozark Bicycle" <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1180783188.106873.254360@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jun 2, 1:28 am, "Gary Smiley" <gasmi...@castcom.net> wrote:
>>
>> > <snipped>
>>
>> > - on bicycle mirrors -
>>
>> >> Has anyone seen or tried the Pan-A-View Fork-Mounted mirror?
>> >> Here is the URL:http://www.panaviewfmm.com/
>> >> Let me know what you think.
>>
>> > The guy behind this is a very experienced cyclist (i.e., not a know-
>> > nothing opportunist nor a crackpot). Other than that, it's hard to say
>> > anything without actually trying one. Perhaps it offers something
>> > under really high traffic conditions that other mirrors don't (?). I
>> > would prefer that the LED thingy were optional/detachble.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
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Date: 02 Jun 2007 08:46:18
From: Pete Derkowski
Subject: Thanks for responsed to: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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Thank You to everyone who offered an opinion. :-)
I'm going to check out the Take A Look and the Italian mirror.
I dug out my eyeglass frame mirror and found that I had bought a Third Eye -
I didn't think to use Lok Tite or superglue to set the balljoints - I think
I'll try that (ha, once I'm extremely sure the mirror is exactly where I
want it).
Between locking the Third Eye, the drop bar one I'm using/playing with now,
and the two above, I should end up with something that works really well.
Again, Thanks to all for posting - I got a lot of great info.
Pete Derkowski
"Pete Derkowski" <craftydad@nycap.rr.com > wrote in message
news:465ed762$0$4651$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>I ride a road bike and used a mirror that clips onto the frame of my
>glasses - but I found it took quite a lot of time to get the small mirror
>'just right' ... to the point where I almost ended up in trouble once
>glancing up into the mirror and moving it around more than keeping my eyes
>on where I was going.
>
> I just bought one of those mirrors that plugs into the end of the
> handlebar... I have drop bars.... it just has one pivot point on it
> though, and its OK, but not great... the mirror is a lot bigger (2-3
> inches in dia) than the glass frame clip type. I think an extra pivot
> point would do the trick.
>
> Wondering what other road riders use... is there a decent mirror that
> plugs into the drop bar - choices are limited in my area, so I bought what
> I thought was the best I could find.
>
> Pete Derkowski
>
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Date: 02 Jun 2007 11:21:20
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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On Jun 2, 4:18 am, R Brickston <rb20170REMOVE.yahoo.com@ > wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 01:28:48 -0500, "Gary Smiley"
>
> <gasmi...@castcom.net> wrote:
> >Has anyone seen or tried the Pan-A-View Fork-Mounted mirror?
> >Here is the URL:
> >http://www.panaviewfmm.com/
> >Let me know what you think.
>
> Kerfugly....
Wait for the the aero model in CFRP. ;-)
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Date: 02 Jun 2007 11:19:48
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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On Jun 2, 1:28 am, "Gary Smiley" <gasmi...@castcom.net > wrote:
<snipped >
- on bicycle mirrors -
> Has anyone seen or tried the Pan-A-View Fork-Mounted mirror?
> Here is the URL:http://www.panaviewfmm.com/
> Let me know what you think.
The guy behind this is a very experienced cyclist (i.e., not a know-
nothing opportunist nor a crackpot). Other than that, it's hard to say
anything without actually trying one. Perhaps it offers something
under really high traffic conditions that other mirrors don't (?). I
would prefer that the LED thingy were optional/detachble.
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Date: 02 Jun 2007 08:15:48
From: Pete Derkowski
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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According to the drawing at the top of the home page, it looks like it would
be opitonal - they show an arrro pointing both ways.
I had heard about a frame mounted mirror, but hadn't seen one. Now I've
got something to look into. :-)
Pete Derkowski
"Ozark Bicycle" <bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote in message
news:1180783188.106873.254360@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 2, 1:28 am, "Gary Smiley" <gasmi...@castcom.net> wrote:
>
> <snipped>
>
> - on bicycle mirrors -
>
>
>> Has anyone seen or tried the Pan-A-View Fork-Mounted mirror?
>> Here is the URL:http://www.panaviewfmm.com/
>> Let me know what you think.
>
> The guy behind this is a very experienced cyclist (i.e., not a know-
> nothing opportunist nor a crackpot). Other than that, it's hard to say
> anything without actually trying one. Perhaps it offers something
> under really high traffic conditions that other mirrors don't (?). I
> would prefer that the LED thingy were optional/detachble.
>
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Date: 03 Jun 2007 03:03:34
From: Aeek
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 08:15:48 -0400, "Pete Derkowski"
<craftydad@nycap.rr.com > wrote:
>I had heard about a frame mounted mirror, but hadn't seen one. Now I've
>got something to look into. :-)
I use a Zefal Universal Mirror on my racebike's top tube. (not racing)
Limited but effective vision between the legs, good for traffic.
http://www.fisheroutdoor.co.uk/public/index.php/product/mirrors/MR472.html
My tourer mounts twin Original Mirycle mirrors, fantastic!
http://www.mirrycle.com/originalmirrycle.htm
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Date: 02 Jun 2007 01:28:48
From: Gary Smiley
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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Has anyone seen or tried the Pan-A-View Fork-Mounted mirror?
Here is the URL:
http://www.panaviewfmm.com/
Let me know what you think.
"Pete Derkowski" <craftydad@nycap.rr.com > wrote in message
news:465ed762$0$4651$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>I ride a road bike and used a mirror that clips onto the frame of my
>glasses - but I found it took quite a lot of time to get the small mirror
>'just right' ... to the point where I almost ended up in trouble once
>glancing up into the mirror and moving it around more than keeping my eyes
>on where I was going.
>
> I just bought one of those mirrors that plugs into the end of the
> handlebar... I have drop bars.... it just has one pivot point on it
> though, and its OK, but not great... the mirror is a lot bigger (2-3
> inches in dia) than the glass frame clip type. I think an extra pivot
> point would do the trick.
>
> Wondering what other road riders use... is there a decent mirror that
> plugs into the drop bar - choices are limited in my area, so I bought what
> I thought was the best I could find.
>
> Pete Derkowski
>
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Date: 02 Jun 2007 09:18:50
From: R Brickston
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 01:28:48 -0500, "Gary Smiley"
<gasmiley@castcom.net > wrote:
>Has anyone seen or tried the Pan-A-View Fork-Mounted mirror?
>Here is the URL:
>http://www.panaviewfmm.com/
>Let me know what you think.
Kerfugly....
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Date: 01 Jun 2007 17:33:17
From: treynolds@my-deja.com
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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On Jun 1, 6:34 am, Will <waller.will...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On May 31, 9:44 pm, "Rich Clark" <rdclark2S...@TRAPcomcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Using a glasses-mount mirror works the same way, except that during the act
> > of turning your head both the sightline and the mirror are in motion.
>
> AND... this is a great benefit because you can "scan" very
> effectively, creating a wide field-of-vision simply by moving your
> head an inch or two.
>
Very true. One precaution is that with an eyeglass or helmet mirror
you are viewing mostly with one eye so your depth perception is not
what it should be.
On my commute home there is a multi-lane road where I need to move
over one lane to avoid taking an offramp. The road also curves at
that point. My mirror is not sufficient, especially at night, to
determine if an approaching car is in the right or second-from-right
lane. I have to turn my head and look.
Tom
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Date: 01 Jun 2007 14:00:35
From: Zoot Katz
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 17:33:17 -0000, "treynolds@my-deja.com"
<thomas.treynolds@gmail.com > wrote:
>On Jun 1, 6:34 am, Will <waller.will...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On May 31, 9:44 pm, "Rich Clark" <rdclark2S...@TRAPcomcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Using a glasses-mount mirror works the same way, except that during the act
>> > of turning your head both the sightline and the mirror are in motion.
>>
>> AND... this is a great benefit because you can "scan" very
>> effectively, creating a wide field-of-vision simply by moving your
>> head an inch or two.
>>
>Very true. One precaution is that with an eyeglass or helmet mirror
>you are viewing mostly with one eye so your depth perception is not
>what it should be.
>
>On my commute home there is a multi-lane road where I need to move
>over one lane to avoid taking an offramp. The road also curves at
>that point. My mirror is not sufficient, especially at night, to
>determine if an approaching car is in the right or second-from-right
>lane. I have to turn my head and look.
Don't trust the mirror reflection with your safety.
After the mirror view indicates there's an opening, I turn my head to
make certain anyway. Usually the mirror just adds images what my ears
are already telling me.
I do frequent shoulder checks as a habit. There's never been a
problem turning my head while riding in traffic.
After the second break, repair, lose, break, repair cycle with a
helmet mounted "Third-Eye" mirror I left in the drawer with the
cyclo-puter.
Too many distractions.
--
zk
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Date: 01 Jun 2007 16:05:54
From: Roger Zoul
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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treynolds@my-deja.com wrote:
:: On Jun 1, 6:34 am, Will <waller.will...@gmail.com > wrote:
::: On May 31, 9:44 pm, "Rich Clark" <rdclark2S...@TRAPcomcast.net >
::: wrote:
:::
:::: Using a glasses-mount mirror works the same way, except that
:::: during the act of turning your head both the sightline and the
:::: mirror are in motion.
:::
::: AND... this is a great benefit because you can "scan" very
::: effectively, creating a wide field-of-vision simply by moving your
::: head an inch or two.
:::
:: Very true. One precaution is that with an eyeglass or helmet mirror
:: you are viewing mostly with one eye so your depth perception is not
:: what it should be.
::
:: On my commute home there is a multi-lane road where I need to move
:: over one lane to avoid taking an offramp. The road also curves at
:: that point. My mirror is not sufficient, especially at night, to
:: determine if an approaching car is in the right or second-from-right
:: lane. I have to turn my head and look.
Even with a mirror....I turn my head and look. The mirror gives me advance
knowledge and an overall view of what's behind, but that look happens right
before the turn...as a backup and as a good habit.
::
:: Tom
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Date: 01 Jun 2007 14:03:40
From: Zoot Katz
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 16:05:54 -0400, "Roger Zoul"
<rogerzoul2@hotmail.com > wrote:
>Even with a mirror....I turn my head and look. The mirror gives me advance
>knowledge and an overall view of what's behind, but that look happens right
>before the turn...as a backup and as a good habit.
It's even a good idea to do regular right shoulder checks, especially
before stopping or leaving a stop.
--
zk
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Date: 01 Jun 2007 17:24:37
From: Pat
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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>
>>Even with a mirror....I turn my head and look. The mirror gives me
>>advance
>>knowledge and an overall view of what's behind, but that look happens
>>right
>>before the turn...as a backup and as a good habit.
>
> It's even a good idea to do regular right shoulder checks, especially
> before stopping or leaving a stop.
> --
> zk
I have practiced and practiced that, but I still swerve to the left a bit
every time...right into traffic.
Pat in TX
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Date: 03 Jun 2007 15:57:09
From: Stephen Harding
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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Pat wrote:
>>>Even with a mirror....I turn my head and look. The mirror gives me
>>>advance
>>>knowledge and an overall view of what's behind, but that look happens
>>>right
>>>before the turn...as a backup and as a good habit.
>>
>>It's even a good idea to do regular right shoulder checks, especially
>>before stopping or leaving a stop.
>
> I have practiced and practiced that, but I still swerve to the left a bit
> every time...right into traffic.
Me too, and I've been bike commuting and touring now for perhaps
15 years!
I think it's good policy to take a quick glance astern before
swinging out into the road, but I still swing a bit left,
especially when space is tight (or perhaps I'm just more
sensitive to the swing when space is tight).
That's why I think a rear view mirror is really essential for
anyone riding the road regularly. It helps keep your situation
awareness up to date more easily than constant checks rearward.
I doubt a rear view mirror will save your life when riding the
road, but it certainly aids in easier decision-making on when
to be more assertive in the lane and when you can defer to the
autos coming up behind.
SMH
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Date: 01 Jun 2007 06:34:06
From: Will
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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On May 31, 9:44 pm, "Rich Clark" <rdclark2S...@TRAPcomcast.net > wrote:
> Using a glasses-mount mirror works the same way, except that during the act
> of turning your head both the sightline and the mirror are in motion.
AND... this is a great benefit because you can "scan" very
effectively, creating a wide field-of-vision simply by moving your
head an inch or two.
> I never ride without my mirror, which I find invaluable whenever I need to
> make a leftward move in traffic.
I find it very hard to ride without the mirror. I feel a bit blind,
not knowing what's going on "back there'...
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Date: 01 Jun 2007 06:48:49
From: bob prohaska's usenet account
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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Pete Derkowski <craftydad@nycap.rr.com > wrote:
>
> I just bought one of those mirrors that plugs into the end of the
> handlebar... I have drop bars.... it just has one pivot point on it though,
> and its OK, but not great... the mirror is a lot bigger (2-3 inches in dia)
> than the glass frame clip type. I think an extra pivot point would do the
> trick.
>
> Wondering what other road riders use... is there a decent mirror that plugs
> into the drop bar - choices are limited in my area, so I bought what I
> thought was the best I could find.
You might try looking for "mountain mirrycle" (might need to
play with the spelling a bit). I've got several, all on motor
cycles, and they work quite well. On pedal powered two-wheelers
the third-eye mirrors work well on glasses, the helmet mounts
work up to about 50 mph on motorcycles.
hth,
bob prohaska
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Date: 31 May 2007 22:44:49
From: Rich Clark
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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"Pete Derkowski" <craftydad@nycap.rr.com > wrote in message
news:465ed762$0$4651$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Wondering what other road riders use... is there a decent mirror that
> plugs into the drop bar - choices are limited in my area, so I bought what
> I thought was the best I could find.
I also endorse the Take-a-Look, which has served me for many years.
There's an initial trick to adjusting and habituating to a mirror like this,
which seems to elude some riders. It's this:
Imagine the outside left rear-view mirror in a car. It's in a fixed
location, and you adjust it so that, from your normal driving position, you
turn your head so that your sightline intersects the mirror at a predictable
angle that provides the desired field of view.
Using a glasses-mount mirror works the same way, except that during the act
of turning your head both the sightline and the mirror are in motion. The
mirror must be adjusted so that when the mirror's motion path and your
sightline intersect, the desired field of view presents itself.
This takes a little bit of practice, but it soon becomes second nature. I
found, all those years ago, that once I'd adjusted the mirror so that the
reflected sightline passed just over my left shoulder, it only took a few
rides before I could move my head and hit the mark predictably, without
thinking about it.
I never ride without my mirror, which I find invaluable whenever I need to
make a leftward move in traffic.
r
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Date: 31 May 2007 19:04:19
From: treynolds@my-deja.com
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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On May 31, 7:10 am, "Pete Derkowski" <crafty...@nycap.rr.com > wrote:
> .....
> Wondering what other road riders use...
> .....
I use a Third-Eye Pro helmet mirror, mounting it as Sheldon suggests.
It took about a month of regular riding to get used to it. Now I
wouldn't ride (on road) without it.
It has a couple of quirks. One is that I had to super-glue it to the
inside of my helmet to get it to stay put. The second is that the
pivot points weren't strong enough to maintain its position on a long,
fast downhill (too much wind force). I super-glued that also. And
when the helmet is not actually on my head, I have to be very careful
with it or else the mirror may break off (I've re-super-glued it to
the inside of my helmet countless times).
Just my experience.
Tom
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Date: 31 May 2007 14:52:43
From: oldhickory
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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I second the Bike Peddler Take A Look . I've used that and Chuck Harris
handmades for many years. You can adjust either to glasses or helmet.
Handlebar mounts vibrate--I find them useless.
--
ie
ride fast, take chances.
"Pete Derkowski" <craftydad@nycap.rr.com > wrote in message
news:465ed762$0$4651$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>I ride a road bike and used a mirror that clips onto the frame of my
>glasses - but I found it took quite a lot of time to get the small mirror
>'just right' ... to the point where I almost ended up in trouble once
>glancing up into the mirror and moving it around more than keeping my eyes
>on where I was going.
>
> I just bought one of those mirrors that plugs into the end of the
> handlebar... I have drop bars.... it just has one pivot point on it
> though, and its OK, but not great... the mirror is a lot bigger (2-3
> inches in dia) than the glass frame clip type. I think an extra pivot
> point would do the trick.
>
> Wondering what other road riders use... is there a decent mirror that
> plugs into the drop bar - choices are limited in my area, so I bought what
> I thought was the best I could find.
>
> Pete Derkowski
>
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Date: 31 May 2007 12:45:52
From: SlowRider
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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On May 31, 12:23 pm, "Pat" <P...@starrynight.com > wrote:
> The Take-a-Look eyeglass mirror is the best one on the market. It's rock
> solid with no vibration.
I'll second this. I've got one I've been using for 4-5 years. After
all that time it is still easy to adjust, yet has never seemed loose.
It's very easy to see traffic behind you. Previously I used a
Blackburn helmet-mount, but it vibrated and was hard to adjust
properly. For road riding, the Take-A-Look is hands-down my favorite.
For my commuter MTB, I also like the Zefal Cyclop Mirror. I've tried
other handlebar-mounted mirrors with velcro straps (e.g., Blackburn),
but they were too flimsy. This one mounts right into the bar so it's
stable and solid. I've banged mine into bike racks and other hard
objects without it breaking. I'm sure it's got its limits, but so far
it has been robust.
-JR
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Date: 31 May 2007 19:32:18
From: Leo Lichtman
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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"Pete Derkowski" wrote: (clip)I just bought one of those mirrors that plugs
into the end of the handlebar... I have drop bars.... it just has one pivot
point on it though, (clip)I think an extra pivot point would do the
> trick.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I think you're supposed to use the round plug that goes into the end of the
handlebar as the other adjustment. That may seem awkward when you are first
setting it, but once you get it, and tighten it, the one pivot they give you
should suffice.
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Date: 31 May 2007 11:33:42
From: treynolds@my-deja.com
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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On May 31, 7:10 am, "Pete Derkowski" <crafty...@nycap.rr.com > wrote:
> .....
> Wondering what other road riders use...
> .....
I use a Third-Eye Pro helmet mirror, mounting it as Sheldon suggests.
It took about a month of regular riding to get used to it. Now I
wouldn't ride (on road) without it.
It has a couple of quirks. One is that I had to super-glue it to the
inside of my helmet to get it to stay put. The second is that the
pivot points weren't strong enough to maintain its position on a long,
fast downhill (too much wind force). I super-glued that also. And
when the helmet is not actually on my head, I have to be very careful
with it or else the mirror may break off (I've re-super-glued it to
the inside of my helmet countless times).
Just my experience.
Tom
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Date: 01 Jun 2007 10:54:09
From: Fritz
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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On 31 May 2007 11:33:42 -0700, "treynolds@my-deja.com"
<thomas.treynolds@gmail.com > wrote:
>On May 31, 7:10 am, "Pete Derkowski" <crafty...@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>> .....
>> Wondering what other road riders use...
>> .....
>
>I use a Third-Eye Pro helmet mirror, mounting it as Sheldon suggests.
>It took about a month of regular riding to get used to it. Now I
>wouldn't ride (on road) without it.
>
>It has a couple of quirks. One is that I had to super-glue it to the
>inside of my helmet to get it to stay put. The second is that the
>pivot points weren't strong enough to maintain its position on a long,
>fast downhill (too much wind force). I super-glued that also. And
>when the helmet is not actually on my head, I have to be very careful
>with it or else the mirror may break off (I've re-super-glued it to
>the inside of my helmet countless times).
>
>Just my experience.
>Tom
>
I use the Third Eye Pro also. I have riveted it to my helmet visor
with an aluminum rivet. Works very well with very little vibration.
Also, since the mirror is out farther when attached to the visor,
one needs not have to turn their head at all to see traffic behind
them. Just the eyes need to move.
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Date: 31 May 2007 11:33:49
From: Mike A Schwab
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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I use my http://www.reevu.com bicycle style helmet made about
2001/2002. There are a few stores that have them, patent suits have
stopped production for now. They are offering a motorcycle style
helmet with mirror and headphones right now.
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Date: 31 May 2007 18:02:30
From: Booker C. Bense
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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In article <465ed762$0$4651$4c368faf@roadrunner.com >,
Pete Derkowski <craftydad@nycap.rr.com > wrote:
>I ride a road bike and used a mirror that clips onto the frame of my
>glasses - but I found it took quite a lot of time to get the small mirror
>'just right' ... to the point where I almost ended up in trouble once
>glancing up into the mirror and moving it around more than keeping my eyes
>on where I was going.
>
>
>Wondering what other road riders use... is there a decent mirror that plugs
>into the drop bar - choices are limited in my area, so I bought what I
>thought was the best I could find.
>
_ I like this one a lot, for me it works better than anything
else I've tried and I've tried a lot of things over the years.
http://tinyurl.com/287ymq
If the URL doesn't work just search for "italian bike mirror" on
Ebay.
_ Booker C. Bense
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Date: 31 May 2007 21:54:04
From: David L. Johnson
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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Booker C. Bense wrote:
> _ I like this one a lot, for me it works better than anything
> else I've tried and I've tried a lot of things over the years.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/287ymq
>
>
> If the URL doesn't work just search for "italian bike mirror" on
> Ebay.
I remember seeing these when they came out, but they seem to no longer
be available commercially. Is there anywhere to get them aside from ebay?
--
David L. Johnson
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by
little statesmen and philosophers and divines."
--Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Date: 02 Jun 2007 08:28:07
From: Pete Derkowski
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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Thanks David, it does look like you can order this right from the company
for $22.95 ... I wonder if eBay prices actually get higher than that.
I saw a similar mirror to this... except it sorta looks like it has a single
pivot on it, not sure. The Sprintech Dropbar Mirror, at twice the price of
the Italian mirror.
http://harriscyclery.net/page.cfm?PageID=49&action=details&sku=MI2002
Pete Derkowski
"David L. Johnson" <david.johnson@lehigh.edu > wrote in message
news:zIidnT02QtKg4cLbnZ2dnUVZ_vPinZ2d@ptd.net...
> Booker C. Bense wrote:
>
>> _ I like this one a lot, for me it works better than anything
>> else I've tried and I've tried a lot of things over the years.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/287ymq
>>
>>
>> If the URL doesn't work just search for "italian bike mirror" on
>> Ebay.
>
> I remember seeing these when they came out, but they seem to no longer be
> available commercially. Is there anywhere to get them aside from ebay?
>
> --
>
> David L. Johnson
>
> "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by
> little statesmen and philosophers and divines."
> --Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Date: 01 Jun 2007 17:57:14
From: Booker C. Bense
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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In article <zIidnT02QtKg4cLbnZ2dnUVZ_vPinZ2d@ptd.net >,
David L. Johnson <david.johnson@lehigh.edu > wrote:
>Booker C. Bense wrote:
>
>> _ I like this one a lot, for me it works better than anything
>> else I've tried and I've tried a lot of things over the years.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/287ymq
>>
>>
>> If the URL doesn't work just search for "italian bike mirror" on
>> Ebay.
>
>I remember seeing these when they came out, but they seem to no longer
>be available commercially. Is there anywhere to get them aside from ebay?
>
As far as I know Aspire Velotech is the only importer and you can
order from them directly if you wish. They have always
be available on Ebay when I wanted one or looked to refer other
people. Ebay seems to be their "store".
_ Booker C. Bense
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Date: 01 Jun 2007 15:22:28
From: Bob in CT
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 13:57:14 -0400, Booker C. Bense
<bbense+rec.bicycles.misc.Jun.01.07@telemark.slac.stanford.edu > wrote:
> In article <zIidnT02QtKg4cLbnZ2dnUVZ_vPinZ2d@ptd.net>,
> David L. Johnson <david.johnson@lehigh.edu> wrote:
>> Booker C. Bense wrote:
>>
>>> _ I like this one a lot, for me it works better than anything
>>> else I've tried and I've tried a lot of things over the years.
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/287ymq
>>>
>>>
>>> If the URL doesn't work just search for "italian bike mirror" on
>>> Ebay.
>>
>> I remember seeing these when they came out, but they seem to no longer
>> be available commercially. Is there anywhere to get them aside from
>> ebay?
>>
>
> As far as I know Aspire Velotech is the only importer and you can
> order from them directly if you wish. They have always
> be available on Ebay when I wanted one or looked to refer other
> people. Ebay seems to be their "store".
>
> _ Booker C. Bense
That is cool. Thanks.
--
Bob in CT
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Date: 31 May 2007 10:58:32
From: joekhul
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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On May 31, 10:10 am, "Pete Derkowski" <crafty...@nycap.rr.com > wrote:
> I ride a road bike and used a mirror that clips onto the frame of my
> glasses - but I found it took quite a lot of time to get the small mirror
> 'just right' ... to the point where I almost ended up in trouble once
> glancing up into the mirror and moving it around more than keeping my eyes
> on where I was going.
>
> I just bought one of those mirrors that plugs into the end of the
> handlebar... I have drop bars.... it just has one pivot point on it though,
> and its OK, but not great... the mirror is a lot bigger (2-3 inches in dia)
> than the glass frame clip type. I think an extra pivot point would do the
> trick.
>
> Wondering what other road riders use... is there a decent mirror that plugs
> into the drop bar - choices are limited in my area, so I bought what I
> thought was the best I could find.
>
> Pete Derkowski
I've been using the 'Bike Peddler Take A Look' mirror for the last
several years and I've been extremely happy with it. (And I've tried a
few differing mirrors). There use to be two versions--one being a
shorter, compact version. I tried that one and didn't like it. (Mirror
closer to the eye and therefore couldn't get a good angle view, and it
seemed to vibrate). But the classic length version works great. The
frame is metal and the swivel points made of brass. Really nice
product. Attaches to eyeglasses or your helmut.
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Date: 31 May 2007 12:23:24
From: Pat
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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The Take-a-Look eyeglass mirror is the best one on the market. It's rock
solid with no vibration.
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Date: 01 Jun 2007 16:07:17
From: Roger Zoul
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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Pat wrote:
:: The Take-a-Look eyeglass mirror is the best one on the market. It's
:: rock solid with no vibration.
I use Take-a-Look.
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Date: 31 May 2007 10:01:11
From: Olebiker
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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Have you tried the Take A Look glasses mounted mirror? I have been
using one for the last few years and it is great.
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Date: 31 May 2007 13:17:39
From: DougC
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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Olebiker wrote:
> Have you tried the Take A Look glasses mounted mirror? I have been
> using one for the last few years and it is great.
>
I tried the Take-A-Look and the plastic mirror was noticeably foggier
than glass ones.
Not foggy as in "anything to do with actual weather conditions" but
"foggy" as in "it ain't a front-surface mirror, so you're looking at a
reflection that's gone through two layers of plastic".
~
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Date: 31 May 2007 09:58:43
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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Pete Derkowski wrote:
> I ride a road bike and used a mirror that clips onto the frame of my
> glasses - but I found it took quite a lot of time to get the small
> mirror 'just right' ... to the point where I almost ended up in
> trouble once glancing up into the mirror and moving it around more
> than keeping my eyes on where I was going.
>
> I just bought one of those mirrors that plugs into the end of the
> handlebar... I have drop bars.... it just has one pivot point on it
> though, and its OK, but not great... the mirror is a lot bigger (2-3
> inches in dia) than the glass frame clip type. I think an extra
> pivot point would do the trick.
>
> Wondering what other road riders use... is there a decent mirror
> that plugs into the drop bar - choices are limited in my area, so I
> bought what I thought was the best I could find.
I use the "Third Eye" model that is supposed to clamp onto the helmet shell.
That didn't seem even close to stable enough to me, so I dug out some foam
and reinforced the clamp with a wide zip-tie and black electrical tape
wrapped through and around the lid shell. Looks bad; works good.
(I tried the type that clamps onto the sunglass frame, but at least some of
my shades are too thick and/or oddly shaped for secure holding. Felt like
the mirror could fall off pretty easily.)
Bill "live dork" S.
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Date: 31 May 2007 11:06:19
From: DougC
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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Pete Derkowski wrote:
> I ride a road bike and used a mirror that clips onto the frame of my
> glasses - but I found it took quite a lot of time to get the small mirror
> 'just right' ...
>
I use one like that and generally have no problems with it (Third Eye
eyeglass mirror). It is rigid plastic and has ball joints that
eventually wear out. It takes some practice to know when it's adjusted
right--I usually make sure I can see the edge of my own ear in the
mirror. I have to tilt my head to the side 15-20 degrees to see behind
me, but I /can/ watch forwards and backwards at the same time this way.
I tried a few handlebar-mount mirrors once, didn't like any of them.
They all vibrated way too much to give a decent view.
~
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Date: 01 Jun 2007 18:54:21
From: Stephen Harding
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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DougC wrote:
> Pete Derkowski wrote:
>
>> I ride a road bike and used a mirror that clips onto the frame of my
>> glasses - but I found it took quite a lot of time to get the small
>> mirror 'just right' ...
>
>
> I use one like that and generally have no problems with it (Third Eye
> eyeglass mirror). It is rigid plastic and has ball joints that
> eventually wear out. It takes some practice to know when it's adjusted
> right--I usually make sure I can see the edge of my own ear in the
> mirror. I have to tilt my head to the side 15-20 degrees to see behind
> me, but I /can/ watch forwards and backwards at the same time this way.
>
> I tried a few handlebar-mount mirrors once, didn't like any of them.
> They all vibrated way too much to give a decent view.
I have rear view mirrors (brake hood or outer handlebar depending on
bike type) on all four of my bikes. I consider them a necessity for
riding the road.
Only one of the four vibrate much, but none to the point of not getting
a clear enough view astern.
SMH
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Date: 01 Jun 2007 01:28:49
From: JP
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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"DougC" <dcimper@norcom2000.com > wrote in message
news:RnC7i.1140$D64.497@newsfe06.lga...
> Pete Derkowski wrote:
>> I ride a road bike and used a mirror that clips onto the frame of my
>> glasses - but I found it took quite a lot of time to get the small mirror
>> 'just right' ...
>
> I use one like that and generally have no problems with it (Third Eye
> eyeglass mirror). It is rigid plastic and has ball joints that eventually
> wear out. It takes some practice to know when it's adjusted right--I
> usually make sure I can see the edge of my own ear in the mirror. I have
> to tilt my head to the side 15-20 degrees to see behind me, but I /can/
> watch forwards and backwards at the same time this way.
>
> I tried a few handlebar-mount mirrors once, didn't like any of them. They
> all vibrated way too much to give a decent view.
> ~
I like the Third Eye helmet mirror.
It attaches with velcro tape to the helmet.
I thought that was iffy at first but it's never been a problem.
I'm on my second.
The eyeglass version didn't work for me.
JP
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Date: 31 May 2007 14:38:53
From: Skip
Subject: Re: Do you use a mirror and which type?
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"Pete Derkowski" <craftydad@nycap.rr.com > wrote in message
news:465ed762$0$4651$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>I ride a road bike and used a mirror that clips onto the frame of my
>glasses - but I found it took quite a lot of time to get the small mirror
>'just right' ... to the point where I almost ended up in trouble once
>glancing up into the mirror and moving it around more than keeping my eyes
>on where I was going.
>
> I just bought one of those mirrors that plugs into the end of the
> handlebar... I have drop bars.... it just has one pivot point on it
> though, and its OK, but not great... the mirror is a lot bigger (2-3
> inches in dia) than the glass frame clip type. I think an extra pivot
> point would do the trick.
>
> Wondering what other road riders use... is there a decent mirror that
> plugs into the drop bar - choices are limited in my area, so I bought what
> I thought was the best I could find.
>
> Pete Derkowski
I use an eyeglass mirror same as yours and am very happy with it. It takes
some time to get adjusted correctly, but once adjusted it is pretty much
stable.
Caution -- I've used two types. My first was "non-adjustable" in that you
had to bend the wire to adjust it. Rock-solid and didn't change after being
initially set.
My second (larger mirror and nicer overall) had "friction sleeve"
adjustments on the three axes. This one is ALWAYS getting knocked out of
alignment (although it is easy to adjust and simple to put back into
alignment).
I use the second (friction-fit) mirror in spite of the tendency to get
knocked out of alignment. I am thinking of (but have not yet done so)
putting a bit of LokTite onto the sleeves to prevent them moving (but still
allowing me to adjust if-and-when I need to).
- Skip
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