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Date: 06 Sep 2007 23:40:04
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Drunk Driver Charged With Murder of Cyclists (Finally)
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Sent to me by a high school friend. Be careful out there, people. (PS: The driver was drunk out of his mind...at 9 AM. God help us all.) ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Driver charged with murder for hitting cyclists Fellow cyclists, Small consolation, I know, but it looks like this kid may pay for a long time for his callous disregard for others' safety. We all know this could happen just as easily around here. Sadly enough, one of the two cyclists killed was a fellow Coast Guard pilot and friend of mine, CDR Bill Imle. Bill and I were neighbors and flew together in Alaska in the mid-90's and was currently stationed at the CG Aviation Training Center in Mobile AL. Rest in peace, Bill, you're work is done here. We'll put in a couple of extra miles in your honor. Rick B. Cumberland, MD ********************************************************************************************* Driver charged with murder for hitting cyclists Associated Press - September 4, 2007 2:54 PM ET SPANISH FORT, Ala. (AP) - A Spanish Fort teenager has been charged with two counts of murder for Monday's crash that killed two bicyclists in Baldwin County. The Press-Register newspaper reports that this is the second arrest for 19-year-old Patrick Young Ballard. He was also charged in June 2005 with hitting and killing another bicycle rider in Fairhope. In the latest case, authorities allege that Ballard was under the influence of alcohol and was speeding when he struck 48-year-old William Frederick Imle of Daphne and 46-year-old Archie Leroy Clemons Junior of Spanish Fort. The crash happened just before 9 a.m. on Bromley Road, not far from U.S. 31. Ballard is scheduled to appear before a Baldwin County judge sometime tomorrow. Information from the Mobile Press-Register Two cyclists dies in Baldwin County wreck More News more >> Local Charity Seeks Out Needs Door To Door Judicial Bribery Sentencing Set To Resume Thursday Jail Overcrowding Forces Removal Of State Inmates Long Beach Finds Cash To Offer 10 Percent Pay Hike Mississippians Pick 12 Favorite Architectural Landmarks Council: Digital Signs Not Good For Gulfport Some Biloxi Neighbors Oppose New VFW Site Three Killed In George County Accident Coroner: BHS Student Died From Respiratory Depression Diver Working Under IP Casino Barge In Critical Condition Associated Press - September 4, 2007 9:54 AM ET SPANISH FORT, Ala. (AP) - Two bicycle riders were killed when they were hit by a pickup truck yesterday (Monday) morning near Spanish Fort. Alabama state troopers said it happened just before 9 a.m. on Bromley Road, about a mile from U.S. 31. Baldwin County Coroner Jim Small identified the victims as 48-year-old William Frederick Imle of Daphne and 46-year-old Archie Leroy Clemons Junior of Spanish Fort. Troopers said a preliminary investigation revealed the 19-year-old driver of the pickup lost control of the vehicle in a curve and struck the bicyclists. The vehicle then crashed into a ditch and overturned, ejecting the driver and his passenger, also a teenager. Their injuries were not considered serious. A trooper spokesman said no charges were filed and the accident remains under investigation. Information from the Mobile Press-Register begin 666 pxl_trans.gif M1TE&.#EA`0`!`)$"````,P```/___P```"'Y! $```(`+ `````!``$```(" $5 $`.P`` ` end begin 666 c_hb_tl.gif M1TE&.#EA$ `2`( ``,S,S-O;VR'Y! ``````+ `````0`!(```(BA(^ABPW+ >W(%*3FH-#?GAO'4A^%FC64JGFCJKVS:O'"=4`0`[ ` end
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Date: 21 Oct 2007 13:02:12
From: ilaboo
Subject: Re: Drunk Driver Charged With Murder of Cyclists (Finally)
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here in nyc early morning hours especially sat am are extremely dangerous--late night drinking etc. city island is also the most dangerous place to ride a bike ( rode all over the country) i have ever rode--people going and comeing from restaurants ahve no idea that others maybe using the street-- peter "Bill Sornson" <askme@ask.me > wrote in message news:46e0f244$0$15358$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > Sent to me by a high school friend. Be careful out there, people. > > (PS: The driver was drunk out of his mind...at 9 AM. God help us all.) > > ----- Original Message ----- > Subject: Driver charged with murder for hitting cyclists > > > Fellow cyclists, > > Small consolation, I know, but it looks like this kid may pay for a long > time for his callous disregard for others' safety. We all know this could > happen just as easily around here. Sadly enough, one of the two cyclists > killed was a fellow Coast Guard pilot and friend of mine, CDR Bill Imle. > Bill and I were neighbors and flew together in Alaska in the mid-90's and > was currently stationed at the CG Aviation Training Center in Mobile AL. > Rest in peace, Bill, you're work is done here. We'll put in a couple of > extra miles in your honor. > > Rick B. > Cumberland, MD > > ********************************************************************************************* > Driver charged with murder for hitting cyclists > > > > > > > > Associated Press - September 4, 2007 2:54 PM ET > > SPANISH FORT, Ala. (AP) - A Spanish Fort teenager has been charged with > two counts of murder for Monday's crash that killed two bicyclists in > Baldwin County. > > The Press-Register newspaper reports that this is the second arrest for > 19-year-old Patrick Young Ballard. He was also charged in June 2005 with > hitting and killing another bicycle rider in Fairhope. > > In the latest case, authorities allege that Ballard was under the > influence of alcohol and was speeding when he struck 48-year-old William > Frederick Imle of Daphne and 46-year-old Archie Leroy Clemons Junior of > Spanish Fort. > > The crash happened just before 9 a.m. on Bromley Road, not far from U.S. > 31. Ballard is scheduled to appear before a Baldwin County judge sometime > tomorrow. > > > Information from the Mobile Press-Register > > > Two cyclists dies in Baldwin County wreck > > > > > More News more>> > > Local Charity Seeks Out Needs Door To Door > > Judicial Bribery Sentencing Set To Resume Thursday > > Jail Overcrowding Forces Removal Of State Inmates > > Long Beach Finds Cash To Offer 10 Percent Pay Hike > > Mississippians Pick 12 Favorite Architectural > Landmarks > > Council: Digital Signs Not Good For Gulfport > > Some Biloxi Neighbors Oppose New VFW Site > > Three Killed In George County Accident > > Coroner: BHS Student Died From Respiratory > Depression > > Diver Working Under IP Casino Barge In Critical > Condition > > > > > > > Associated Press - September 4, 2007 9:54 AM ET > > SPANISH FORT, Ala. (AP) - Two bicycle riders were killed when they were > hit by a pickup truck yesterday (Monday) morning near Spanish Fort. > > Alabama state troopers said it happened just before 9 a.m. on Bromley > Road, about a mile from U.S. 31. > > Baldwin County Coroner Jim Small identified the victims as 48-year-old > William Frederick Imle of Daphne and 46-year-old Archie Leroy Clemons > Junior of Spanish Fort. > > Troopers said a preliminary investigation revealed the 19-year-old driver > of the pickup lost control of the vehicle in a curve and struck the > bicyclists. The vehicle then crashed into a ditch and overturned, ejecting > the driver and his passenger, also a teenager. Their injuries were not > considered serious. > > A trooper spokesman said no charges were filed and the accident remains > under investigation. > > > Information from the Mobile Press-Register > > >
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Date: 09 Sep 2007 03:08:57
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: Drunk Driver Charged With Murder of Cyclists (Finally)
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In article <%2yEi.63$eh3.23@trndny07 >, "Sir Thomas of Cannondale" <tomcatm@verizon.net > writes: > This is the great thing about the USA, I get to love and hate. I can love Why do you wanna hate? What's so great about hate that it becomes such an enjoyable commodity? Anybody can hate. Hate is easy. Any pea-brained, artless loser can hate. I think the great thing about the USA comes from its citizens who don't hate. -- Nothing is safe from me. I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca
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Date: 08 Sep 2007 01:10:34
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Drunk Driver Charged With Murder of Cyclists (Finally)
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On Sep 7, 8:05 pm, Hank Wirtz <h...@wirtznet.net > wrote: > On Sep 7, 6:00 pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sep 7, 7:29 pm, "Sir Thomas of Cannondale" <tomc...@verizon.net> > > wrote: > > > > > The President you adore is responsible for the deaths of half a > > > > million. Wanna talk death, let's talk death, ya stupid Bushbot. > > > > ================================================== > > > > Who's counting .. > > > > Besides, he does like his mtn bike. So, he gets a 1,000,000 dead Arab pass. > > > > --- > > > /wingnut racist plonk > > Sounded sarcastic to me. http://tinyurl.com/2rnjfo Just another Sorni protoge.
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Date: 07 Sep 2007 18:05:56
From: Hank Wirtz
Subject: Re: Drunk Driver Charged With Murder of Cyclists (Finally)
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On Sep 7, 6:00 pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com > wrote: > On Sep 7, 7:29 pm, "Sir Thomas of Cannondale" <tomc...@verizon.net> > wrote: > > > > The President you adore is responsible for the deaths of half a > > > million. Wanna talk death, let's talk death, ya stupid Bushbot. > > > ================================================== > > > Who's counting .. > > > Besides, he does like his mtn bike. So, he gets a 1,000,000 dead Arab pass. > > > --- > > /wingnut racist plonk Sounded sarcastic to me.
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Date: 08 Sep 2007 01:00:14
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Drunk Driver Charged With Murder of Cyclists (Finally)
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On Sep 7, 7:29 pm, "Sir Thomas of Cannondale" <tomc...@verizon.net > wrote: > > The President you adore is responsible for the deaths of half a > > million. Wanna talk death, let's talk death, ya stupid Bushbot. > > ================================================== > > Who's counting .. > > Besides, he does like his mtn bike. So, he gets a 1,000,000 dead Arab pass. > > --- /wingnut racist plonk
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Date: 08 Sep 2007 14:10:03
From: Sir Thomas of Cannondale
Subject: Re: Drunk Driver Charged With Murder of Cyclists (Finally)
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"landotter" <landotter@gmail.com > wrote in message news:1189213214.326486.181930@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com... > On Sep 7, 7:29 pm, "Sir Thomas of Cannondale" <tomc...@verizon.net> > wrote: >> > The President you adore is responsible for the deaths of half a >> > million. Wanna talk death, let's talk death, ya stupid Bushbot. >> >> ================================================== >> >> Who's counting .. >> >> Besides, he does like his mtn bike. So, he gets a 1,000,000 dead Arab >> pass. >> >> --- > > /wingnut racist plonk This is the great thing about the USA, I get to love and hate. I can love icecream and hate Puerto Ricans. As long as I don't go out and shoot anyone, etc it is ok. But this isn't good enough for you .. oh noooooooo. You want to tell me who to love. Take away my icecream. And give my tax money to people I don't like. If I meet you on the bike path I will stomp your ass into pulp. Another great thing about the USA? Most hate crimes are not solved!
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Date: 08 Sep 2007 00:19:51
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Drunk Driver Charged With Murder of Cyclists (Finally)
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On Sep 7, 5:25 pm, "Bill Sornson" <as...@ask.me > wrote: > Jonathan wrote (snipped below): > > > "landotter" <landot...@gmail.com> wrote in message > >news:1189185663.369426.238660@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > >> On Sep 7, 9:30 am, Luke <lucasirag...@rogers.com> wrote: > >>> In article <i7cEi.17004$453.15267@trndny02>, Sir Thomas of > >>> Cannondale <tomc...@verizon.net> wrote: > >>>> Did I read this right? The kid killed two cyclists. But he also > >>>> killed a > >>>> cyclist in 2005? > > >>>> Why was he out of jail? > > >>> And still eligible for a driver's license as well?!!? What an > >>> accomplishment: killing three while still a teenager. > >> Laura Bush--eat your heart out! > > Only a hate-filled shit-head would compare a tragic accident decades ago to > a REPEAT DRUNKEN DRIVER KILLING CYCLISTS ON TWO SEPARATE OCCASIONS WITHIN > THE PAST TWO YEARS. > The President you adore is responsible for the deaths of half a million. Wanna talk death, let's talk death, ya stupid Bushbot.
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Date: 08 Sep 2007 00:29:51
From: Sir Thomas of Cannondale
Subject: Re: Drunk Driver Charged With Murder of Cyclists (Finally)
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> The President you adore is responsible for the deaths of half a > million. Wanna talk death, let's talk death, ya stupid Bushbot. ================================================== Who's counting .. Besides, he does like his mtn bike. So, he gets a 1,000,000 dead Arab pass. ---
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Date: 07 Sep 2007 20:17:33
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Drunk Driver Charged With Murder of Cyclists (Finally)
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Sir Thomas of Cannondale wrote: {God only knows who wrote:} >> The President you adore is responsible for the deaths of half a >> million. Wanna talk death, let's talk death, ya stupid Bushbot. > ================================================== > Who's counting .. > > Besides, he does like his mtn bike. So, he gets a 1,000,000 dead > Arab pass. # liberated from tyranny: 50,000,000. # civilians killed in Iraq (mostly by insurgency and AQ, of course): 60,000. (NOT the 700,000 claimed on wacky fringe sites -- which in turn is not a million, either. But blind hatred DOES tend to blur facts...) None of which has a thing to do with a drunk driver killing cylists on separate occasions, which in turn had nothing to do with Laura Bush's tragic traffic fatality when she was a teenager. I suppose the ground vermin never drove inattentively and /could/ have killed someone? I know I have, as has almost everyone. Teenager drops a cigarette in his lap; next stop tragedy...or luck. Flip a fucking coin. BS
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Date: 07 Sep 2007 20:24:16
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Drunk Driver Charged With Murder of Cyclists (Finally)
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Bill Sornson wrote: > Sir Thomas of Cannondale wrote: > {God only knows who wrote:} >>> The President you adore is responsible for the deaths of half a >>> million. Wanna talk death, let's talk death, ya stupid Bushbot. >> ================================================== > >> Who's counting .. >> >> Besides, he does like his mtn bike. So, he gets a 1,000,000 dead >> Arab pass. > > # liberated from tyranny: 50,000,000. > > # civilians killed in Iraq (mostly by insurgency and AQ, of course): > 60,000. (NOT the 700,000 claimed on wacky fringe sites -- which in > turn is not a million, either. But blind hatred DOES tend to blur > facts...) > None of which has a thing to do with a drunk driver killing cylists on > separate occasions, which in turn had nothing to do with Laura Bush's > tragic traffic fatality when she was a teenager. I suppose the > ground vermin never drove inattentively and /could/ have killed > someone? I know I have, as has almost everyone. > > Teenager drops a cigarette in his lap; next stop tragedy...or luck. > > Flip a fucking coin. > > BS PS: Average number of civilian deaths in Iraq under Saddam: over 100,000. Now the rat can go back to writing talking points for UBL. (Didn't he used to be OBL?!? Grey/black beard thing?)
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Date: 07 Sep 2007 17:21:03
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Drunk Driver Charged With Murder of Cyclists (Finally)
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On Sep 7, 9:30 am, Luke <lucasirag...@rogers.com > wrote: > In article <i7cEi.17004$453.15267@trndny02>, Sir Thomas of Cannondale > > <tomc...@verizon.net> wrote: > > Did I read this right? The kid killed two cyclists. But he also killed a > > cyclist in 2005? > > > Why was he out of jail? > > And still eligible for a driver's license as well?!!? What an > accomplishment: killing three while still a teenager. Laura Bush--eat your heart out! BTW, the article doesn't state whether the kid was licensed or not. If he was, and it was my family, I'd file a lawsuit against the state. Getting busted with four brews in your blood when you're young and feisty can be remedied by a fine and a day in jail--but when you kill, forfeiting your license indefinitely seems to be appropriate.
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Date: 07 Sep 2007 16:35:58
From: Jonathan
Subject: Re: Drunk Driver Charged With Murder of Cyclists (Finally)
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"landotter" <landotter@gmail.com > wrote in message news:1189185663.369426.238660@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > On Sep 7, 9:30 am, Luke <lucasirag...@rogers.com> wrote: >> In article <i7cEi.17004$453.15267@trndny02>, Sir Thomas of Cannondale >> >> <tomc...@verizon.net> wrote: >> > Did I read this right? The kid killed two cyclists. But he also >> > killed a >> > cyclist in 2005? >> >> > Why was he out of jail? >> >> And still eligible for a driver's license as well?!!? What an >> accomplishment: killing three while still a teenager. > > Laura Bush--eat your heart out! > > BTW, the article doesn't state whether the kid was licensed or not. If > he was, and it was my family, I'd file a lawsuit against the state. > Getting busted with four brews in your blood when you're young and > feisty can be remedied by a fine and a day in jail--but when you kill, > forfeiting your license indefinitely seems to be appropriate. > > Something tells me that forfeiting his DL even permanently isn't really going to prevent this moron from driving. I think 15 years in the state pen might give him a little "me time" to think about it, however. While hard time in no way makes up for killing three people, this guy has shown that he cannot make an intelligent decision about his life and cannot be trusted not to repeat his fatal (to others so far) mistakes so you've got to put him somewhere where he absolutely will not drive. I'm also in favor of making him inelligible for parole as well. Cheers - Jonathan
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Date: 07 Sep 2007 15:25:08
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Drunk Driver Charged With Murder of Cyclists (Finally)
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Jonathan wrote (snipped below): > "landotter" <landotter@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1189185663.369426.238660@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... >> On Sep 7, 9:30 am, Luke <lucasirag...@rogers.com> wrote: >>> In article <i7cEi.17004$453.15267@trndny02>, Sir Thomas of >>> Cannondale <tomc...@verizon.net> wrote: >>>> Did I read this right? The kid killed two cyclists. But he also >>>> killed a >>>> cyclist in 2005? >>> >>>> Why was he out of jail? >>> >>> And still eligible for a driver's license as well?!!? What an >>> accomplishment: killing three while still a teenager. >> Laura Bush--eat your heart out! Only a hate-filled shit-head would compare a tragic accident decades ago to a REPEAT DRUNKEN DRIVER KILLING CYCLISTS ON TWO SEPARATE OCCASIONS WITHIN THE PAST TWO YEARS. Oh, wait...I see now who posted it. (Terra Rat long ago plonked. VINDICATION!) {rest snipped}
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Date: 07 Sep 2007 13:12:46
From: Sir Thomas of Cannondale
Subject: Re: Drunk Driver Charged With Murder of Cyclists (Finally)
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Did I read this right? The kid killed two cyclists. But he also killed a cyclist in 2005? Why was he out of jail? This is outrageous! If this kid has killed three cyclists in two years, then someone needs to put a bullet in his head. This little bastard needs killing. ======================== "Bill Sornson" <askme@ask.me > wrote in message news:46e0f244$0$15358$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > Sent to me by a high school friend. Be careful out there, people. > > (PS: The driver was drunk out of his mind...at 9 AM. God help us all.) > > ----- Original Message ----- > Subject: Driver charged with murder for hitting cyclists > > > Fellow cyclists, > > Small consolation, I know, but it looks like this kid may pay for a long > time for his callous disregard for others' safety. We all know this could > happen just as easily around here. Sadly enough, one of the two cyclists > killed was a fellow Coast Guard pilot and friend of mine, CDR Bill Imle. > Bill and I were neighbors and flew together in Alaska in the mid-90's and > was currently stationed at the CG Aviation Training Center in Mobile AL. > Rest in peace, Bill, you're work is done here. We'll put in a couple of > extra miles in your honor. > > Rick B. > Cumberland, MD > > ********************************************************************************************* > Driver charged with murder for hitting cyclists > > > > > > > > Associated Press - September 4, 2007 2:54 PM ET > > SPANISH FORT, Ala. (AP) - A Spanish Fort teenager has been charged with > two counts of murder for Monday's crash that killed two bicyclists in > Baldwin County. > > The Press-Register newspaper reports that this is the second arrest for > 19-year-old Patrick Young Ballard. He was also charged in June 2005 with > hitting and killing another bicycle rider in Fairhope. > > In the latest case, authorities allege that Ballard was under the > influence of alcohol and was speeding when he struck 48-year-old William > Frederick Imle of Daphne and 46-year-old Archie Leroy Clemons Junior of > Spanish Fort. > > The crash happened just before 9 a.m. on Bromley Road, not far from U.S. > 31. Ballard is scheduled to appear before a Baldwin County judge sometime > tomorrow. > > > Information from the Mobile Press-Register > > > Two cyclists dies in Baldwin County wreck > > > > > More News more>> > > Local Charity Seeks Out Needs Door To Door > > Judicial Bribery Sentencing Set To Resume Thursday > > Jail Overcrowding Forces Removal Of State Inmates > > Long Beach Finds Cash To Offer 10 Percent Pay Hike > > Mississippians Pick 12 Favorite Architectural > Landmarks > > Council: Digital Signs Not Good For Gulfport > > Some Biloxi Neighbors Oppose New VFW Site > > Three Killed In George County Accident > > Coroner: BHS Student Died From Respiratory > Depression > > Diver Working Under IP Casino Barge In Critical > Condition > > > > > > > Associated Press - September 4, 2007 9:54 AM ET > > SPANISH FORT, Ala. (AP) - Two bicycle riders were killed when they were > hit by a pickup truck yesterday (Monday) morning near Spanish Fort. > > Alabama state troopers said it happened just before 9 a.m. on Bromley > Road, about a mile from U.S. 31. > > Baldwin County Coroner Jim Small identified the victims as 48-year-old > William Frederick Imle of Daphne and 46-year-old Archie Leroy Clemons > Junior of Spanish Fort. > > Troopers said a preliminary investigation revealed the 19-year-old driver > of the pickup lost control of the vehicle in a curve and struck the > bicyclists. The vehicle then crashed into a ditch and overturned, ejecting > the driver and his passenger, also a teenager. Their injuries were not > considered serious. > > A trooper spokesman said no charges were filed and the accident remains > under investigation. > > > Information from the Mobile Press-Register > > >
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Date: 07 Sep 2007 10:30:45
From: Luke
Subject: Re: Drunk Driver Charged With Murder of Cyclists (Finally)
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In article <i7cEi.17004$453.15267@trndny02 >, Sir Thomas of Cannondale <tomcatm@verizon.net > wrote: > Did I read this right? The kid killed two cyclists. But he also killed a > cyclist in 2005? > > Why was he out of jail? And still eligible for a driver's license as well?!!? What an accomplishment: killing three while still a teenager.
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