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Date: 10 Jul 2007 05:00:05
From: Mike Iglesias
Subject: FAQ Location and Weekly posting for Rec.Bicycles.*
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Last updated: March 14, 2007
Weekly Posting for Rec.Bicycles.*
This is the weekly posting to Rec.Bicycles.*. In it, you will find
information on how to get a copy of the FAQ (in case you missed it
when it was posted to rec.bicycles.misc/news.answers) and some tips on
nettiquette when posting articles to rec.bicycles.*.
The FAQ was last updated on March 14, 2007
Mike Iglesias
iglesias@draco.acs.uci.edu
Web access to rec.bicycles archives and FAQ
------------------------------------------------------
The rec.bicycles ftp archives and FAQ are available via the web
<http://draco.nac.uci.edu/rbfaq/ >
Posting Guidelines
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The rec.bicycles subgroups are described below - please try to post your
article to the appropriate group. The newsgroups were designed to minimize
cross posting, so please take the time to think about the most appropriate
newsgroup and post your article there. Most postings to rec.bicycles should
not be cross-posted to groups outside of rec.*.
rec.bicycles: DO NOT USE THIS NEWSGROUP - it should have been dropped
from news servers, having been replaced by rec.bicycles.misc.
rec.bicycles.marketplace: Bicycles, components, ancillary equipment and
services wanted or for sale, reviews of such things, places to buy
them, and evaluations of these sources. Not for discussion of general
engineering, maintenance, or repair -- see rec.bicycles.tech.
rec.bicycles.tech: Techniques of engineering, construction, maintenance
and repair of bicycles and ancillary equipment. Not for products or
services offered or wanted -- see rec.bicycles.marketplace.
rec.bicycles.rides: Discussions of tours and training or commuting routes.
Not for disussion of general riding techniques -- see rec.bicycles.misc.
Not for products or services offered or wanted -- see
rec.bicycles.marketplace.
rec.bicycles.soc: Social issues, cycling transportation advocacy, laws,
conduct of riders and drivers; road hazards such as potholes, dogs, and
sociopaths. Not for products or services offered or wanted --
see rec.bicycles.marketplace.
rec.bicycles.racing: Race results, racing techniques, rules, and
organizations. Not racing equipment -- see rec.bicycles.marketplace
or rec.bicycles.tech.
rec.bicycles.misc: General riding techniques, rider physiology,
injuries and treatment, diets, and other cycling topics.
Not for products or services offered or wanted -- see
rec.bicycles.marketplace.
rec.bicycles.off-road: This group is moderated. Discussion of riding
on unimproved roads, gravel, dirt, grass, sand, single track or 4x4 roads.
Also discussion of environmental issues related to mountain biking, trail
issues, backcountry travel, how to handle conditions
(technically and evo-sensitively), off-road magazines and other media.
Nettiquette
-----------
Here are some tips to remember when posting to rec.bicycles.*:
* Check your line lengths. Most readers use 80 column terminals, and
articles with longer line lengths are hard to read. 72 characters per
line is a good length, since it allows others to quote you without
running over 80 characters.
* Trim down your quotes. Delete parts of the article that you are not
responding to. Less to read from previous posts is better. And please
don't include the signature of the article you are responding to.
* If you are asking a basic question, please check the FAQ first. If the
FAQ is has expired on your system, see the "Archives" section below
for information on how to get a copy.
* If someone posts a question about something that was resolved recently,
please answer the poster via email. Rehashing something that was just
discussed is a waste of bandwidth unless you have something new to add.
* Please don't flame someone if their posting should have been restricted
to a certain region (for example, california only). Most people are not
the news admin on their system, so publicly flaming them does no good.
A nicely worded email message to them that there may be a problem
would allow them to notify their news admin. Please remember that
it may be some other site somewhere along the line that is leaking
articles out of its region and the poster may not have any way to
solve the problem.
* Along the above lines, please try to restrict your postings to your
site/region/state/whatever. People in Australia may not want to see
bike-for-sale ads from the U.S., for example.
* Make your subject line informative about the content of your article.
* If you are following up an article to create a new article, please
remember to delete the "References:" line in the header. This will
help the readers who use a threaded news reader; otherwise your new
topic will be mixed in with an old one.
* Please don't flame others. We're a somewhat opinionated group, and
there are many diverse personalities here. This is especially true
in the never-ending helmet wars.
* Speaking of helmet wars, let's try to stay away from them. Most
everything that could be said pro and con for wearing helmets has
been said at least once in rec.bicycles. There is some evidence that
wearing a helmet can help prevent head injuries. There are people that
wear a helmet all the time, people that wear a helmet some of the time,
and people who will never wear one. Everyone has their own reasons
for their decision, and most will not change it in the middle of a
flaming helmet war. Questions on types of helmets, what ones are
coolest (temperature and otherwise), etc are always welcome.
Archives
I've made available via anonymous ftp a copy of the current FAQ and a
few other items on draco.nac.uci.edu (128.200.196.2). This is the
workstation on my desk, so I'd appreciate it if people would restrict
their use to 7pm-7am Pacific time. The files are in pub/rec.bicycles.
Here's what's available at this time:
README for Rec.Bicycles Anonymous FTP area
arnie.light Arnie Berger's (arnie.berger@amd.com) "Ultimate bike light"
bike_gear.sea.hqx
Lawrence Hare's (ldh@duck.svl.cdc.com) copy of a
Hypercard stack to calculate gearing. Lawrence says
there is a newer version on major bbs systems.
bike.lockers David H. Wolfskill's (david@catwhisker.org) summary of
bike locker vendors.
bike.painting Sam Henry's (shenry@rice.edu) collection of articles on
how to paint a bike.
bike_power.* Ken Roberts program to calculate power output and power
consumption. See bike_power.doc for more info. Updates
now include wind speed, altitude, and size of rider.
updated by Mark Grennan (mark@grennan.com) is available
at http://www.grennan.com/BikePower/
biking_log.* Phil Etheridge's (P.Etheridge@massey.ac.nz) hypercard stack
riding diary. It keeps track of dates, distance, time,
average speed, etc., and keeps running weekly, monthly,
and yearly totals. See biking_log.read_me for more
information.
CA-veh-code A directory containing the California vehicle code sections
that pertain to bicycles and gopher bookmarks. See the
README in that directory for more information.
camera.tour Vivian Aldridge's (viviana@tamri.com) collection of articles
on cameras to take on a bike tour.
competitive.nutrition
Roger Marquis' (marquis@roble.com) article from the
Feb 91 Velo News on nutrition and cycling.
computer.calibrate
computer.install
Sheldon Brown's (CaptBike@sheldonbrown.com) universal bike
computer calibration chart and installation suggestions.
cyclesense Larry Watanabe's (watanabe@asimov.cs.uiuc.edu) copy of
the "Cycle Sense for Motorists" ready to run thru LaTeX.
faq.* The current Frequently Asked Questions posting
first.century Pamela Blalock's (pamelab@pcdocs.com) tips on training
for your first century ride.
frame.build Terry Zmrhal's (terryz@microsoft.com) writeup of
a frame building class he took.
gear.c Larry Watanabe's (watanabe@asimov.cs.uiuc.edu) program to
print gear inch tables.
glossary Alan Bloom's (alanb@sr.hp.com) glossary of bicycle terms.
lab.info Erin O'Brien's (bikeleague@aol.com) article on the
League of American Bicyclists.
lights Tom Reingold's (tr@samadams.princeton.edu) collection of
articles on bike lights.
lights2 More articles from rec.bicycles.* on lights.
mtb.faq Vince Cheng's (vccheng@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca) MTB FAQ.
pam.bmb* Pamela Blalock's (pamelab@pcdocs.com) report on her
Boston-Montreal-Boston rides.
pam.pactour* Pamela Blalock's (pamelab@pcdocs.com) writeup of her PAC tours
across the country.
pbp.info Pamela Blalock's (pamelab@pcdocs.com) information
on her Paris-Brest-Paris ride.
pictures Bicycling gif pictures.
prof.sched Roland Stahl's (stahl@ipi.uni-hannover.de) list of
scheduled professional races in many countries.
pwm.regulator Willie Hunt's (willie@cs.indiana.edu) design notes
on a pulse width modulated voltage regulator. Originally
designed for caving, this design is adaptable to bike
lighting. The author has parts available in kit form.
ride.index Chris Hull's/Bill Bushnell's (bushnell@lmsc.lockheed.com)
explanation of a way to "index" rides and compare the
difficulty of different rides.
ridelg22.* Found on AOL by Gary Thurman (thurmag@csos.orst.edu), a
ride diary program. The .exe file a self-extracting archive
for PCs.
spike.bike Bob Fishell's (fish@ih4ess.ih.lucent.com) Spike Bike series.
They are numbered in the order that Bob posted them to
rec.bicycles. All the Spike Bike stories are
"Copyright 1989 by Robert Fishell, all rights reserved."
spokelen11.bas Roger Marquis' (marquis@roble.com) spoke length
calculator, written in Microsoft Quickbasic.
spokelen.c Andy Tucker's (tucker@Neon.Stanford.EDU) port of
Roger Marquis' spokelen11.bas to C.
spokelen.hqx Eric Topp's topp@roses.stanford.edu's Hypercard stack that
computes spoke lengths.
studded.tires (Name removed by request) compilation
of messages on studded tires, including how to make your
own.
tandem.boxes Arnie Berger's (arnie.berger@amd.com) notes on how
he built a box to transport his tandem to Europe and
back. It's taken from a longer travelogue on his trip - if
you want more information, contact him at the above
address.
tech.supp.phone Joshua Putnam's (josh@Happy-Man.com) list of technical
support numbers for various manufacturers. This list
used to be in the FAQ but now is too long to include there.
trailers A summary posting of messages about bike trailers. Good
stuff if you're thinking of buying a trailer.
wheelbuild.txt Sheldon Brown's (CaptBike@sheldonbrown.com) instructions on
how to build a wheel.
wheels.*.hqx R. Scott Truesdell's (truesdel@ics.uci.edu) Hypercard
stack to calculate spoke lengths. See wheels.readme
for more info.
wintertips Pete Hickey's (pete@panda1.uottawa.ca) notes about
how to cycle in the winter.
wintertips.pam Pamela Blalock's (pamelab@pcdocs.com) winter cycling tips.
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Date: 11 Jul 2007 22:11:05
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: FAQ Location and Weekly posting for Rec.Bicycles.*
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"Mike Iglesias" <iglesias@draco.acs.uci.edu > wrote in message
news:rec-bicycles-weekly-1070709@draco.acs.uci.edu...
What the hell is the purpose of these posts?
Usenet is the wild, wild West and no one, but no one, observes anything.
Usenet is mostly composed of nothing but idiots and morons, scoundrels and
rascals and here is this freaking Mike Iglesias telling us how we should
post in an ideal world which does not exist on Usenet. It never has and it
never will.
Hey, either get some moderators for these freaking cycling newsgroups or
forget about it. Mike Iglesias should retire from his labors as they are
total waste of his time - and ours too! All he is really doing is
advertising some various shit websites which we already know about. Fuck him
I say!
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
> Last updated: March 14, 2007
>
> Weekly Posting for Rec.Bicycles.*
>
>
> This is the weekly posting to Rec.Bicycles.*. In it, you will find
> information on how to get a copy of the FAQ (in case you missed it
> when it was posted to rec.bicycles.misc/news.answers) and some tips on
> nettiquette when posting articles to rec.bicycles.*.
>
> The FAQ was last updated on March 14, 2007
>
>
> Mike Iglesias
> iglesias@draco.acs.uci.edu
>
>
> Web access to rec.bicycles archives and FAQ
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
> The rec.bicycles ftp archives and FAQ are available via the web
>
> <http://draco.nac.uci.edu/rbfaq/>
>
>
>
> Posting Guidelines
> ------------------
>
> The rec.bicycles subgroups are described below - please try to post your
> article to the appropriate group. The newsgroups were designed to
> minimize
> cross posting, so please take the time to think about the most appropriate
> newsgroup and post your article there. Most postings to rec.bicycles
> should
> not be cross-posted to groups outside of rec.*.
>
> rec.bicycles: DO NOT USE THIS NEWSGROUP - it should have been dropped
> from news servers, having been replaced by rec.bicycles.misc.
>
> rec.bicycles.marketplace: Bicycles, components, ancillary equipment and
> services wanted or for sale, reviews of such things, places to buy
> them, and evaluations of these sources. Not for discussion of general
> engineering, maintenance, or repair -- see rec.bicycles.tech.
>
> rec.bicycles.tech: Techniques of engineering, construction, maintenance
> and repair of bicycles and ancillary equipment. Not for products or
> services offered or wanted -- see rec.bicycles.marketplace.
>
> rec.bicycles.rides: Discussions of tours and training or commuting routes.
> Not for disussion of general riding techniques -- see rec.bicycles.misc.
> Not for products or services offered or wanted -- see
> rec.bicycles.marketplace.
>
> rec.bicycles.soc: Social issues, cycling transportation advocacy, laws,
> conduct of riders and drivers; road hazards such as potholes, dogs, and
> sociopaths. Not for products or services offered or wanted --
> see rec.bicycles.marketplace.
>
> rec.bicycles.racing: Race results, racing techniques, rules, and
> organizations. Not racing equipment -- see rec.bicycles.marketplace
> or rec.bicycles.tech.
>
> rec.bicycles.misc: General riding techniques, rider physiology,
> injuries and treatment, diets, and other cycling topics.
> Not for products or services offered or wanted -- see
> rec.bicycles.marketplace.
>
> rec.bicycles.off-road: This group is moderated. Discussion of riding
> on unimproved roads, gravel, dirt, grass, sand, single track or 4x4
> roads.
> Also discussion of environmental issues related to mountain biking,
> trail
> issues, backcountry travel, how to handle conditions
> (technically and evo-sensitively), off-road magazines and other media.
>
> Nettiquette
> -----------
>
> Here are some tips to remember when posting to rec.bicycles.*:
>
> * Check your line lengths. Most readers use 80 column terminals, and
> articles with longer line lengths are hard to read. 72 characters per
> line is a good length, since it allows others to quote you without
> running over 80 characters.
>
> * Trim down your quotes. Delete parts of the article that you are not
> responding to. Less to read from previous posts is better. And please
> don't include the signature of the article you are responding to.
>
> * If you are asking a basic question, please check the FAQ first. If the
> FAQ is has expired on your system, see the "Archives" section below
> for information on how to get a copy.
>
> * If someone posts a question about something that was resolved recently,
> please answer the poster via email. Rehashing something that was just
> discussed is a waste of bandwidth unless you have something new to add.
>
> * Please don't flame someone if their posting should have been restricted
> to a certain region (for example, california only). Most people are
> not
> the news admin on their system, so publicly flaming them does no good.
> A nicely worded email message to them that there may be a problem
> would allow them to notify their news admin. Please remember that
> it may be some other site somewhere along the line that is leaking
> articles out of its region and the poster may not have any way to
> solve the problem.
>
> * Along the above lines, please try to restrict your postings to your
> site/region/state/whatever. People in Australia may not want to see
> bike-for-sale ads from the U.S., for example.
>
> * Make your subject line informative about the content of your article.
>
> * If you are following up an article to create a new article, please
> remember to delete the "References:" line in the header. This will
> help the readers who use a threaded news reader; otherwise your new
> topic will be mixed in with an old one.
>
> * Please don't flame others. We're a somewhat opinionated group, and
> there are many diverse personalities here. This is especially true
> in the never-ending helmet wars.
>
> * Speaking of helmet wars, let's try to stay away from them. Most
> everything that could be said pro and con for wearing helmets has
> been said at least once in rec.bicycles. There is some evidence that
> wearing a helmet can help prevent head injuries. There are people that
> wear a helmet all the time, people that wear a helmet some of the time,
> and people who will never wear one. Everyone has their own reasons
> for their decision, and most will not change it in the middle of a
> flaming helmet war. Questions on types of helmets, what ones are
> coolest (temperature and otherwise), etc are always welcome.
>
>
> Archives
>
> I've made available via anonymous ftp a copy of the current FAQ and a
> few other items on draco.nac.uci.edu (128.200.196.2). This is the
> workstation on my desk, so I'd appreciate it if people would restrict
> their use to 7pm-7am Pacific time. The files are in pub/rec.bicycles.
>
>
> Here's what's available at this time:
>
> README for Rec.Bicycles Anonymous FTP area
>
> arnie.light Arnie Berger's (arnie.berger@amd.com) "Ultimate bike light"
>
> bike_gear.sea.hqx
> Lawrence Hare's (ldh@duck.svl.cdc.com) copy of a
> Hypercard stack to calculate gearing. Lawrence says
> there is a newer version on major bbs systems.
>
> bike.lockers David H. Wolfskill's (david@catwhisker.org) summary of
> bike locker vendors.
>
> bike.painting Sam Henry's (shenry@rice.edu) collection of articles on
> how to paint a bike.
>
> bike_power.* Ken Roberts program to calculate power output and power
> consumption. See bike_power.doc for more info. Updates
> now include wind speed, altitude, and size of rider.
> updated by Mark Grennan (mark@grennan.com) is available
> at http://www.grennan.com/BikePower/
>
> biking_log.* Phil Etheridge's (P.Etheridge@massey.ac.nz) hypercard stack
> riding diary. It keeps track of dates, distance, time,
> average speed, etc., and keeps running weekly, monthly,
> and yearly totals. See biking_log.read_me for more
> information.
>
>
> CA-veh-code A directory containing the California vehicle code sections
> that pertain to bicycles and gopher bookmarks. See the
> README in that directory for more information.
>
> camera.tour Vivian Aldridge's (viviana@tamri.com) collection of articles
> on cameras to take on a bike tour.
>
> competitive.nutrition
> Roger Marquis' (marquis@roble.com) article from the
> Feb 91 Velo News on nutrition and cycling.
>
> computer.calibrate
> computer.install
> Sheldon Brown's (CaptBike@sheldonbrown.com) universal bike
> computer calibration chart and installation suggestions.
>
> cyclesense Larry Watanabe's (watanabe@asimov.cs.uiuc.edu) copy of
> the "Cycle Sense for Motorists" ready to run thru LaTeX.
>
> faq.* The current Frequently Asked Questions posting
>
> first.century Pamela Blalock's (pamelab@pcdocs.com) tips on training
> for your first century ride.
>
> frame.build Terry Zmrhal's (terryz@microsoft.com) writeup of
> a frame building class he took.
>
> gear.c Larry Watanabe's (watanabe@asimov.cs.uiuc.edu) program to
> print gear inch tables.
>
> glossary Alan Bloom's (alanb@sr.hp.com) glossary of bicycle terms.
>
> lab.info Erin O'Brien's (bikeleague@aol.com) article on the
> League of American Bicyclists.
>
> lights Tom Reingold's (tr@samadams.princeton.edu) collection of
> articles on bike lights.
>
> lights2 More articles from rec.bicycles.* on lights.
>
> mtb.faq Vince Cheng's (vccheng@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca) MTB FAQ.
>
> pam.bmb* Pamela Blalock's (pamelab@pcdocs.com) report on her
> Boston-Montreal-Boston rides.
>
> pam.pactour* Pamela Blalock's (pamelab@pcdocs.com) writeup of her PAC
> tours
> across the country.
>
> pbp.info Pamela Blalock's (pamelab@pcdocs.com) information
> on her Paris-Brest-Paris ride.
>
> pictures Bicycling gif pictures.
>
> prof.sched Roland Stahl's (stahl@ipi.uni-hannover.de) list of
> scheduled professional races in many countries.
>
> pwm.regulator Willie Hunt's (willie@cs.indiana.edu) design notes
> on a pulse width modulated voltage regulator. Originally
> designed for caving, this design is adaptable to bike
> lighting. The author has parts available in kit form.
>
> ride.index Chris Hull's/Bill Bushnell's (bushnell@lmsc.lockheed.com)
> explanation of a way to "index" rides and compare the
> difficulty of different rides.
>
> ridelg22.* Found on AOL by Gary Thurman (thurmag@csos.orst.edu), a
> ride diary program. The .exe file a self-extracting archive
> for PCs.
>
> spike.bike Bob Fishell's (fish@ih4ess.ih.lucent.com) Spike Bike series.
> They are numbered in the order that Bob posted them to
> rec.bicycles. All the Spike Bike stories are
> "Copyright 1989 by Robert Fishell, all rights reserved."
>
> spokelen11.bas Roger Marquis' (marquis@roble.com) spoke length
> calculator, written in Microsoft Quickbasic.
>
> spokelen.c Andy Tucker's (tucker@Neon.Stanford.EDU) port of
> Roger Marquis' spokelen11.bas to C.
>
> spokelen.hqx Eric Topp's topp@roses.stanford.edu's Hypercard stack that
> computes spoke lengths.
>
> studded.tires (Name removed by request) compilation
> of messages on studded tires, including how to make your
> own.
>
> tandem.boxes Arnie Berger's (arnie.berger@amd.com) notes on how
> he built a box to transport his tandem to Europe and
> back. It's taken from a longer travelogue on his trip - if
> you want more information, contact him at the above
> address.
>
> tech.supp.phone Joshua Putnam's (josh@Happy-Man.com) list of technical
> support numbers for various manufacturers. This list
> used to be in the FAQ but now is too long to include there.
>
> trailers A summary posting of messages about bike trailers. Good
> stuff if you're thinking of buying a trailer.
>
> wheelbuild.txt Sheldon Brown's (CaptBike@sheldonbrown.com) instructions on
> how to build a wheel.
>
> wheels.*.hqx R. Scott Truesdell's (truesdel@ics.uci.edu) Hypercard
> stack to calculate spoke lengths. See wheels.readme
> for more info.
>
> wintertips Pete Hickey's (pete@panda1.uottawa.ca) notes about
> how to cycle in the winter.
>
> wintertips.pam Pamela Blalock's (pamelab@pcdocs.com) winter cycling tips.
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Date: 11 Jul 2007 23:07:48
From: Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: FAQ Location and Weekly posting for Rec.Bicycles.*
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Edward Dolan wrote:
> ...
> Hey, either get some moderators for these freaking cycling newsgroups or
> forget about it....
Oddly enough, rec.bicycles.off-road is moderated, yet is full of
off-topic spam. Moderating to eliminate the posts of one particular
person has all but killed off that group.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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Date: 12 Jul 2007 19:08:10
From: Steve Gravrock
Subject: Re: FAQ Location and Weekly posting for Rec.Bicycles.*
|
On 2007-07-12, Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@yahoo.com > wrote:
>
> Oddly enough, rec.bicycles.off-road is moderated, yet is full of
> off-topic spam. Moderating to eliminate the posts of one particular
> person has all but killed off that group.
IIRC, rbor died because robomoderation broke and the moderators
disappeared for some time. Since nobody could post, everyone wandered off
to alt.mountain-bike or non-Usenet places. That's unfortunately a common
fate of moderated newsgroups, and it's unusual for a group to recover
from it.
I voted for the proposal to moderate rbor. I would not have done so if I
knew what the long-term result would be. While alt.mountain-bike has its
charms, it's not the resource that rbor was even at the height of the
trolling campaign by He Who Shall Not Be Named.
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Date: 14 Jul 2007 23:13:59
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: FAQ Location and Weekly posting for Rec.Bicycles.*
|
"Steve Gravrock" <usenet@sdg.users.panix.com > wrote in message
news:slrnf9cv0q.hef.usenet@panix1.panix.com...
[Newsgroups restored]
> On 2007-07-12, Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman <sunsetss0003@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Oddly enough, rec.bicycles.off-road is moderated, yet is full of
>> off-topic spam. Moderating to eliminate the posts of one particular
>> person has all but killed off that group.
>
> IIRC, rbor died because robomoderation broke and the moderators
> disappeared for some time. Since nobody could post, everyone wandered off
> to alt.mountain-bike or non-Usenet places. That's unfortunately a common
> fate of moderated newsgroups, and it's unusual for a group to recover
> from it.
Just another reason why unmoderated newsgroups do not work as advertised.
> I voted for the proposal to moderate rbor. I would not have done so if I
> knew what the long-term result would be. While alt.mountain-bike has its
> charms, it's not the resource that rbor was even at the height of the
> trolling campaign by He Who Shall Not Be Named.
If you want it to be a resource for a newsgroup, then post something to it
that others can respond to. All this caterwauling about unmoderated
newsgroups is ever the complaint if those who only want to receive and not
to give. It is not Mr. Mike Vandeman who has destroyed various and sundry
cycling newsgroups, it is assholes like Steve Gravrock who refuse to post
messages which others might find interesting and respond to. Fuck him and
all who think like him.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 12 Jul 2007 01:28:33
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: FAQ Location and Weekly posting for Rec.Bicycles.*
|
"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:46959ce8$0$16329$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> ...
>> Hey, either get some moderators for these freaking cycling newsgroups or
>> forget about it....
>
> Oddly enough, rec.bicycles.off-road is moderated, yet is full of off-topic
> spam. Moderating to eliminate the posts of one particular person has all
> but killed off that group.
Yes, if true, that IS interesting. I have maintained from day one that it is
not individuals like myself who pose any danger to Usenet. The fact is that
I am NOT a troll, I never have been and I never will be. I am responsive to
anyone who wants to engage me on any topic under the sun. Mr. Sherman is
also very responsive, at least when he is not trying to be cute.
A newsgroup can be destroyed by a criminal vandal troll, but they are rather
rare. An unmoderated newsgroup will not be tidy. But surely that is a small
price to pay for some excitement. I can live with any and all unmoderated
newsgroups provided that the members accept the chaos that goes with it.
Frankly, I have never understood how Mr. Vandeman can so totally dominate a
newsgroup. He is a one-note Johnny and it seems that others could post on
topics other than his and I am sure he would not disturb them at all. Mr.
Vandeman is always on just one topic whereas I am on any topic at all that
presents itself, as long as it is off-topic. But neither one of us pose any
danger to a newsgroup if only others would get their heads screwed on
straight.
Like Mr. Sherman, I like an unmoderated newsgroup, but it is big mistake to
take any of what is said on these forums seriously. You have to suffer a
certain amount of rambunctiousness if you are going to be happy on an
unmoderated newsgroup. This is a very small price to pay for the amount of
freedom that is given to you to say whatever you want unmolested by an
editor.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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