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Date: 30 Mar 2007 09:47:01
From: Neil Cherry
Subject: GPS recommendation?
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I'm preparing for another cycling season and need to get my kit
together. I'd like to get a GPS to let me know where I am for
emergencies. I really haven't had much need for it but on one
accident it took about 45 minutes for the EMS to arrive because we
weren't sure where we were (roads often change names several times in
the are where I ride). I don't need the fancy bike gps with heart
rate, etc. Just the route map that tells me where I am with road name
information. I'll probably like to take advantage of the mapping
capability if the model has it.
Thanks
--
Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry ncherry@linuxha.com
http://www.linuxha.com/ Main site
http://linuxha.blogspot.com/ My HA Blog
Author of: Linux St Homes For Dummies
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Date: 10 Apr 2007 07:28:37
From: DanKegel
Subject: Re: GPS recommendation?
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On Apr 6, 6:43 pm, "David L. Johnson" <david.john...@lehigh.edu >
wrote:
> > As for running the Garmin mapping software under Linux have you looked
> > at the Wine project?
>
> I could not get the Garmin software to run under wine.
Indeed. I've been trying Garmin periodically with Wine.
Wine keeps getting closer, but still can't run.
See http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2561
- Dan
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Date: 30 Mar 2007 22:38:11
From: David L. Johnson
Subject: Re: GPS recommendation?
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Neil Cherry wrote:
> I'm preparing for another cycling season and need to get my kit
> together. I'd like to get a GPS to let me know where I am for
> emergencies.
I got a Garmin Vista CX and think it is tremendous. I didn't want a
training aid, but a way to keep me from getting lost, and this is it.
Rugged (supposedly good to something like 30m under water, though it
probably would not receive a signal down there), and the maps come with
unbelievable amounts of information. Sometimes it loses touch with the
satellites, but they all have this problem with a lot of trees or in
downtown NYC.
Not the cheapest one, and it doesn't talk to you (thank God), but has
all the features you need for route planning, finding a store in the
middle of freaking nowhere, or just figuring out where you are. Does
stuff like track your route, but I don't think that's so cool. If you
get a cue sheet ahead of time you can program in all the turns, which is
nice.
Only downside is that in order to get the best computer interface you
have to use some proprietary o/s from Redmond, which means for me I have
to borrow someone else's computer. PITA, but eventually I will figure
out a way. I can at least download routes to it from linux.
--
David L. Johnson
Arguing with an engineer is like mud wrestling with a pig...
You soon find out the pig likes it!
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 17:19:55
From: Richard B
Subject: Re: GPS recommendation?
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"David L. Johnson" <david.johnson@lehigh.edu > wrote in
news:G5CdnX4Yt5gIVJDbnZ2dnUVZ_oipnZ2d@ptd.net:
> Neil Cherry wrote:
>> I'm preparing for another cycling season and need to get my kit
>> together. I'd like to get a GPS to let me know where I am for
>> emergencies.
>
> I got a Garmin Vista CX and think it is tremendous. I didn't want a
> training aid, but a way to keep me from getting lost, and this is it.
> Rugged (supposedly good to something like 30m under water, though it
> probably would not receive a signal down there), and the maps come
> with unbelievable amounts of information. Sometimes it loses touch
> with the satellites, but they all have this problem with a lot of
> trees or in downtown NYC.
>
> Not the cheapest one, and it doesn't talk to you (thank God), but has
> all the features you need for route planning, finding a store in the
> middle of freaking nowhere, or just figuring out where you are. Does
> stuff like track your route, but I don't think that's so cool. If you
> get a cue sheet ahead of time you can program in all the turns, which
> is nice.
>
> Only downside is that in order to get the best computer interface you
> have to use some proprietary o/s from Redmond, which means for me I
> have to borrow someone else's computer. PITA, but eventually I will
> figure out a way. I can at least download routes to it from linux.
>
>
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Neil:
I also have a Garmin Vista CX for my bike.
The specs say it is water resistant for submersion in one meter of water
for thirty minutes (not 30 meters). It uses Micro SD memory expansion
cards and is supplied with a either a 32 or 64meg card (can't remember
which). I put a 1G card in mine and I am able to put most on the
Southwest on the card using less than 256M.
I have the Garmin mapping software and the mapping goes down to the
detail level of the 4X4 dirt roads found in the desert. If you use it
for navigating to a GPS coordinate in a remote area, using the "follow
road" selection, these will be ked as unnamed road so the navigation
will tell you "turn right at unnamed road, turn left at unnamed road,
etc."
I usually commute by bike so I use it almost daily to track my
statistics including total ascent, total descent, average moving speed,
etc.
--------
David:
As for running the Garmin mapping software under Linux have you looked
at the Wine project?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software)
I am a Linux newbie but I have seen Wine referenced as a way to
execute windows based programs on a Linux platform, maybe it will work
for you. I'm still working out the Linux basics so I don't want to
fiddle around with this quite yet.
Richard B.
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 21:43:45
From: David L. Johnson
Subject: Re: GPS recommendation?
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Richard B wrote:
> Neil:
> I also have a Garmin Vista CX for my bike.
> The specs say it is water resistant for submersion in one meter of water
> for thirty minutes (not 30 meters).
OK, I misremembered. Any depth specs are rather odd, anyway.
It uses Micro SD memory expansion
> cards and is supplied with a either a 32 or 64meg card (can't remember
> which). I put a 1G card in mine and I am able to put most on the
> Southwest on the card using less than 256M.
ditto. the literature that comes with it is dated, saying that it will
support 256 meg. Apparently they never thought that micro sd's would
support 1g or more. But it has not trouble with it, and mine has 400meg
of material on it now (most of the East Coast).
> David:
> As for running the Garmin mapping software under Linux have you looked
> at the Wine project?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software)
>
> I am a Linux newbie but I have seen Wine referenced as a way to
> execute windows based programs on a Linux platform, maybe it will work
> for you. I'm still working out the Linux basics so I don't want to
> fiddle around with this quite yet.
Well, I was a big enthusiast for wine in the early years, even
contributing to the project. But I could not get the Garmin software to
run under wine. I will try again, but I have put out a couple of
queries, with no response. Fortunately I have my wife's old laptop
available, though I would rather work on my own computer.
--
David L. Johnson
If all economists were laid end to end, they would not reach
a conclusion. -- George Bernard Shaw
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Date: 09 Apr 2007 18:49:41
From: Frank Miles
Subject: Re: GPS recommendation?
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In article <FpudnTmyXcPOaovbnZ2dnUVZ_uygnZ2d@ptd.net >,
David L. Johnson <david.johnson@lehigh.edu > wrote:
>Richard B wrote:
>
>> Neil:
>> I also have a Garmin Vista CX for my bike.
>> The specs say it is water resistant for submersion in one meter of water
>> for thirty minutes (not 30 meters).
>
>OK, I misremembered. Any depth specs are rather odd, anyway.
>
>It uses Micro SD memory expansion
>> cards and is supplied with a either a 32 or 64meg card (can't remember
>> which). I put a 1G card in mine and I am able to put most on the
>> Southwest on the card using less than 256M.
>
>ditto. the literature that comes with it is dated, saying that it will
>support 256 meg. Apparently they never thought that micro sd's would
>support 1g or more. But it has not trouble with it, and mine has 400meg
>of material on it now (most of the East Coast).
>
>> David:
>> As for running the Garmin mapping software under Linux have you looked
>> at the Wine project?
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software)
>>
>> I am a Linux newbie but I have seen Wine referenced as a way to
>> execute windows based programs on a Linux platform, maybe it will work
>> for you. I'm still working out the Linux basics so I don't want to
>> fiddle around with this quite yet.
>
>Well, I was a big enthusiast for wine in the early years, even
>contributing to the project. But I could not get the Garmin software to
>run under wine. I will try again, but I have put out a couple of
>queries, with no response. Fortunately I have my wife's old laptop
>available, though I would rather work on my own computer.
OziExplorer ($) works under Wine. Interfaces ok w/ GPS devices.
-f
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 16:54:40
From: Bob in CT
Subject: Re: GPS recommendation?
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On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 13:19:55 -0400, Richard B
<blueSPAMMENOTrandonee@gmail.com > wrote:
> "David L. Johnson" <david.johnson@lehigh.edu> wrote in
> news:G5CdnX4Yt5gIVJDbnZ2dnUVZ_oipnZ2d@ptd.net:
>
>> Neil Cherry wrote:
>>> I'm preparing for another cycling season and need to get my kit
>>> together. I'd like to get a GPS to let me know where I am for
>>> emergencies.
>>
>> I got a Garmin Vista CX and think it is tremendous. I didn't want a
>> training aid, but a way to keep me from getting lost, and this is it.
>> Rugged (supposedly good to something like 30m under water, though it
>> probably would not receive a signal down there), and the maps come
>> with unbelievable amounts of information. Sometimes it loses touch
>> with the satellites, but they all have this problem with a lot of
>> trees or in downtown NYC.
>>
>> Not the cheapest one, and it doesn't talk to you (thank God), but has
>> all the features you need for route planning, finding a store in the
>> middle of freaking nowhere, or just figuring out where you are. Does
>> stuff like track your route, but I don't think that's so cool. If you
>> get a cue sheet ahead of time you can program in all the turns, which
>> is nice.
>>
>> Only downside is that in order to get the best computer interface you
>> have to use some proprietary o/s from Redmond, which means for me I
>> have to borrow someone else's computer. PITA, but eventually I will
>> figure out a way. I can at least download routes to it from linux.
>>
>>
>
> -------
> Neil:
> I also have a Garmin Vista CX for my bike.
> The specs say it is water resistant for submersion in one meter of water
> for thirty minutes (not 30 meters). It uses Micro SD memory expansion
> cards and is supplied with a either a 32 or 64meg card (can't remember
> which). I put a 1G card in mine and I am able to put most on the
> Southwest on the card using less than 256M.
>
> I have the Garmin mapping software and the mapping goes down to the
> detail level of the 4X4 dirt roads found in the desert. If you use it
> for navigating to a GPS coordinate in a remote area, using the "follow
> road" selection, these will be ked as unnamed road so the navigation
> will tell you "turn right at unnamed road, turn left at unnamed road,
> etc."
>
> I usually commute by bike so I use it almost daily to track my
> statistics including total ascent, total descent, average moving speed,
> etc.
> --------
> David:
> As for running the Garmin mapping software under Linux have you looked
> at the Wine project?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software)
>
> I am a Linux newbie but I have seen Wine referenced as a way to
> execute windows based programs on a Linux platform, maybe it will work
> for you. I'm still working out the Linux basics so I don't want to
> fiddle around with this quite yet.
>
>
> Richard B.
>
>
Do you know if you can program in a route? For instance, if you have a 60
mile ride, could you program in the turns you'll take?
--
Bob in CT
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 21:48:24
From: David L. Johnson
Subject: Re: GPS recommendation?
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Bob in CT wrote:
> Do you know if you can program in a route? For instance, if you have a
> 60 mile ride, could you program in the turns you'll take?
>
> --Bob in CT
Absolutely. I can even do that in linux. Use
http://www.engo-ltd.com/map/
What happens is that the turns become both part of a route as well as
being "waypoints", and the route from turn to turn is determined by the
software. But it talks to the computer fine for that. Only when
downloading the Garmin maps do you need windows.
You can set it up specifically for bikes, or for cars, or for walking,
to allow/restrict certain routes (avoiding highways for riding, allowing
reverse paths up one-way streets for walking). I don't have much
experience with that yet, but it seems to work very well.
--
David L. Johnson
If all economists were laid end to end, they would not reach
a conclusion. -- George Bernard Shaw
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 22:33:20
From: Richard B
Subject: Re: GPS recommendation?
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"Bob in CT" <ctviggen.x@comcast.net > wrote in
news:op.tqdq1eue3plkkk@esq03.mfh.com:
> On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 13:19:55 -0400, Richard B
> <blueSPAMMENOTrandonee@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "David L. Johnson" <david.johnson@lehigh.edu> wrote in
>> news:G5CdnX4Yt5gIVJDbnZ2dnUVZ_oipnZ2d@ptd.net:
>
Snip
>>>
>>
>> -------
>> Neil:
>> I also have a Garmin Vista CX for my bike.
>> The specs say it is water resistant for submersion in one meter of
>> water for thirty minutes (not 30 meters). It uses Micro SD memory
>> expansion cards and is supplied with a either a 32 or 64meg card
>> (can't remember which). I put a 1G card in mine and I am able to put
>> most on the Southwest on the card using less than 256M.
>>
>> I have the Garmin mapping software and the mapping goes down to the
>> detail level of the 4X4 dirt roads found in the desert. If you use it
>> for navigating to a GPS coordinate in a remote area, using the
>> "follow road" selection, these will be ked as unnamed road so the
>> navigation will tell you "turn right at unnamed road, turn left at
>> unnamed road, etc."
>>
>> I usually commute by bike so I use it almost daily to track my
>> statistics including total ascent, total descent, average moving
>> speed, etc.
>> --------
>> David:
>> As for running the Garmin mapping software under Linux have you
>> looked at the Wine project?
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software)
>>
>> I am a Linux newbie but I have seen Wine referenced as a way to
>> execute windows based programs on a Linux platform, maybe it will
>> work for you. I'm still working out the Linux basics so I don't want
>> to fiddle around with this quite yet.
>>
>>
>> Richard B.
>>
>>
>
> Do you know if you can program in a route? For instance, if you have
> a 60 mile ride, could you program in the turns you'll take?
>
No you can not directly input a specific route with only the GPS, but
you can set up a series waypoints and have it take you through the
sequence; this will limit the choices it can make for the route.
There is a route preference setting choice of "bicycle", if you select
this the GPS will try to avoid higher traffic roads. (Unfortunately the
maps do not include Class 1 bike paths, sigh.)
You can capture a route and save it, then have the GPS follow that saved
route.
With the mapping software, "MapSource City Navigator North America"
(MSRP $139.27) you should be able to plan a route, save it as a file in
the PC and then upload that to the GPS.
You will need the "MapSource City Navigator North America" software as
the included "Trip and Waypoint Manager" software only includes maps
with the major traffic arteries. The "MapSource City Navigator North
America" software is licensed for 2 GPS units and is registered to, and
checks, the serial numbers of the units when they are connected to the
PC.
Routes are saved as a series of GPS coordinates and altitude readings
and the included "Trip and Waypoint Manager" software lets you download
this information through the USB portto a Windows PC so you can plot it
on a map and it can even give you an elevation plot of the route
you captured. You can also export this captured data to an Excel
spreadsheet.
Here is a link to the Garmin Vista CX webpage so you can check out the
specs and suggested prices:
http://www.garmin.com/products/etrexVistacx/
Richard B.
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 22:17:48
From: Kristian M Zoerhoff
Subject: Re: GPS recommendation?
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On 2007-04-06, Bob in CT <ctviggen.x@comcast.net > wrote:
>
> Do you know if you can program in a route? For instance, if you have a 60
> mile ride, could you program in the turns you'll take?
Yes, you can. I do my routes in MapSource, then download them to the eTrex,
but you can do routes on the device itself as well, with some limitations
on route complexity (presumably due to the mimited memory and CPU on the
unit).
I'm actually planning a 60+ mile ride myself for the unit, to be used early
this summer.
--
__o Kristian Zoerhoff
_'\(,_ kristian.zoerhoff@gmail.com
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Date: 06 Apr 2007 22:56:47
From: Bill
Subject: Re: GPS recommendation?
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Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote:
> On 2007-04-06, Bob in CT <ctviggen.x@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Do you know if you can program in a route? For instance, if you have a 60
>> mile ride, could you program in the turns you'll take?
>
> Yes, you can. I do my routes in MapSource, then download them to the eTrex,
> but you can do routes on the device itself as well, with some limitations
> on route complexity (presumably due to the mimited memory and CPU on the
> unit).
>
> I'm actually planning a 60+ mile ride myself for the unit, to be used early
> this summer.
>
Whatever happened to the under $100 Radio Shack GPS that was on sale in
2001? Was it too simple?
Maybe I don't have enough places to get lost in so I don't follow the
trend??
Bill Baka
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Date: 30 Mar 2007 19:31:13
From: peter
Subject: Re: GPS recommendation?
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Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote:
> On 2007-03-30, Neil Cherry <njc@cookie.uucp> wrote:
> > I'm preparing for another cycling season and need to get my kit
> > together. I'd like to get a GPS to let me know where I am for
> > emergencies.
> I use a Garmin eTrex Legend Cx for this. You'll probably have to order
> the handlebar mount from Garmin, but it does maps, can auto-record your
> ride as a GPX track while you ride [1], and can store waypoints and
> routes from Garmin's MapSource software. I replaced my cyclocomputer
> with this after it died, and I'm quite happy with my choice.
I agree that the LegendCx is a good choice, or the very similar
VistaCx if you want some additional altitude-related features. To get
detailed maps on these you'd need to add the optional CityNavigator
software (North American version if you need the US and/or Canada)
since the included basemap is very coarse and won't cover most roads
you'd want to use for cycling. Another option from Garmin is the
Quest which includes the CityNavigator software and can therefore end
up costing a little less overall (I got mine for about $240 from
Amazon). Optional handlebar mounts are available for all of these
models. [Note that despite the name, CityNavigator maps cover minor
rural roads very well in addition to city and residential streets.]
Any of the above are also very useful when used with the CityNav. maps
while driving. Enter an address or business location (by name or
type), and it'll determine a turn-by-turn route to get there and alert
you prior to each turn. You can specify whether you're in a car,
bicycle, walking, etc. so it'll pick an appropriate route (e.g. avoid
freeways when cycling, allow wrong-way travel when walking). I've
found it very handy on a bicycle tour to know where the nearest
restaurants, grocery stores, cycle shops, motels, etc. are located -
and phone numbers are listed so you can call ahead for reservations or
more info when needed.
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Date: 30 Mar 2007 12:29:17
From: Roger Zoul
Subject: Re: GPS recommendation?
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Neil Cherry wrote:
:: I'm preparing for another cycling season and need to get my kit
:: together. I'd like to get a GPS to let me know where I am for
:: emergencies. I really haven't had much need for it but on one
:: accident it took about 45 minutes for the EMS to arrive because we
:: weren't sure where we were (roads often change names several times in
:: the are where I ride). I don't need the fancy bike gps with heart
:: rate, etc. Just the route map that tells me where I am with road name
:: information. I'll probably like to take advantage of the mapping
:: capability if the model has it.
If you already have, or can get on your plan, a motorola Q stphone, then
you can get this:
http://store.everythingq.com/content/accessories/10-41--1929-2.htm.
Load your maps on a 2 GB miniSD card and use your Q and garmin when you need
to determine location.
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Date: 30 Mar 2007 15:15:46
From: Kristian M Zoerhoff
Subject: Re: GPS recommendation?
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On 2007-03-30, Neil Cherry <njc@cookie.uucp > wrote:
> I'm preparing for another cycling season and need to get my kit
> together. I'd like to get a GPS to let me know where I am for
> emergencies. I really haven't had much need for it but on one
> accident it took about 45 minutes for the EMS to arrive because we
> weren't sure where we were (roads often change names several times in
> the are where I ride). I don't need the fancy bike gps with heart
> rate, etc. Just the route map that tells me where I am with road name
> information. I'll probably like to take advantage of the mapping
> capability if the model has it.
I use a Garmin eTrex Legend Cx for this. You'll probably have to order
the handlebar mount from Garmin, but it does maps, can auto-record your
ride as a GPX track while you ride [1], and can store waypoints and
routes from Garmin's MapSource software. I replaced my cyclocomputer
with this after it died, and I'm quite happy with my choice.
[1] Accessible via USB as .gpx files. I store these so I can review my
more interesting rides later on, or ship them to GPS-enabled friends.
--
__o Kristian Zoerhoff
_'\(,_ kristian.zoerhoff@gmail.com
(_)/ (_)
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Date: 30 Mar 2007 11:05:31
From: Bob in CT
Subject: Re: GPS recommendation?
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On Fri, 30 2007 10:47:01 -0400, Neil Cherry <njc@cookie.uucp > wrote:
> I'm preparing for another cycling season and need to get my kit
> together. I'd like to get a GPS to let me know where I am for
> emergencies. I really haven't had much need for it but on one
> accident it took about 45 minutes for the EMS to arrive because we
> weren't sure where we were (roads often change names several times in
> the are where I ride). I don't need the fancy bike gps with heart
> rate, etc. Just the route map that tells me where I am with road name
> information. I'll probably like to take advantage of the mapping
> capability if the model has it.
>
> Thanks
>
Most new cell phones will send GPS information when you dial 911. So, you
might already have something that can be used for emergencies.
--
Bob in CT
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Date: 30 Mar 2007 18:35:15
From: Bill
Subject: Re: GPS recommendation?
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Bob in CT wrote:
> Most new cell phones will send GPS information when you dial 911. So,
> you might already have something that can be used for emergencies.
>
> --Bob in CT
Unfortunately, those have been compromised by Herr Bush. If you are a
"Party of interest" they can turn on your phone, in your pocket and with
no ring to keep tabs of where you are and even listen in. The weed
mandated this after 9/11. Big brother is here more than you think.
Bill Baka
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Date: 30 Mar 2007 16:00:18
From: Bob in CT
Subject: Re: GPS recommendation?
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On Fri, 30 2007 14:35:15 -0400, Bill <bbaka@comcast.net > wrote:
> Bob in CT wrote:
>> Most new cell phones will send GPS information when you dial 911. So,
>> you might already have something that can be used for emergencies.
>> --Bob in CT
>
> Unfortunately, those have been compromised by Herr Bush. If you are a
> "Party of interest" they can turn on your phone, in your pocket and with
> no ring to keep tabs of where you are and even listen in. The weed
> mandated this after 9/11. Big brother is here more than you think.
> Bill Baka
I know. That sucks, too, I must say. We need someone to develop an
anti-on device that won't allow this to happen.
--
Bob in CT
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Date: 30 Mar 2007 23:12:34
From: Bill
Subject: Re: GPS recommendation?
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Bob in CT wrote:
> On Fri, 30 2007 14:35:15 -0400, Bill <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Bob in CT wrote:
>>> Most new cell phones will send GPS information when you dial 911.
>>> So, you might already have something that can be used for emergencies.
>>> --Bob in CT
>>
>> Unfortunately, those have been compromised by Herr Bush. If you are a
>> "Party of interest" they can turn on your phone, in your pocket and
>> with no ring to keep tabs of where you are and even listen in. The
>> weed mandated this after 9/11. Big brother is here more than you think.
>> Bill Baka
>
> I know. That sucks, too, I must say. We need someone to develop an
> anti-on device that won't allow this to happen.
>
> --Bob in CT
Since I read this in an electronics magazine and saw an on line video
about the situation, they both said that about the only way to prevent
that is to remove the batteries, thus wiping your personal settings.
I know this sounds like a propeller cap solution but wrapping it in tin
foil just might make the signal to weak for that to happen. My wife
keeps asking why I keep my 2000 vintage phone, and this is the reason.
If I ever ride so far out that I get lost enough to need GPS then I will
just navigate by the sun and/or stars/moon.
Maybe I could manufacture Mu-metal (shields from magnets and radio)
holders for people who don't want to be tracked or spied on.
I doubt this would have happened if the election in 2000 had gone
properly, but there was Floriduh and brother Jeb, sigh.
Bill Baka
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Date: 31 Mar 2007 14:44:56
From: Roger Zoul
Subject: Re: GPS recommendation?
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Bill wrote:
:: Bob in CT wrote:
::: On Fri, 30 2007 14:35:15 -0400, Bill <bbaka@comcast.net > wrote:
:::
:::: Bob in CT wrote:
::::: Most new cell phones will send GPS information when you dial 911.
::::: So, you might already have something that can be used for
::::: emergencies. --Bob in CT
::::
:::: Unfortunately, those have been compromised by Herr Bush. If you
:::: are a "Party of interest" they can turn on your phone, in your
:::: pocket and with no ring to keep tabs of where you are and even
:::: listen in. The weed mandated this after 9/11. Big brother is here
:::: more than you think. Bill Baka
:::
::: I know. That sucks, too, I must say. We need someone to develop an
::: anti-on device that won't allow this to happen.
:::
::: --Bob in CT
::
:: Since I read this in an electronics magazine and saw an on line video
:: about the situation, they both said that about the only way to
:: prevent that is to remove the batteries, thus wiping your personal
:: settings.
:: I know this sounds like a propeller cap solution but wrapping it in
:: tin foil just might make the signal to weak for that to happen.
Sure it will.
My
:: wife keeps asking why I keep my 2000 vintage phone, and this is the
:: reason. If I ever ride so far out that I get lost enough to need GPS
:: then I will just navigate by the sun and/or stars/moon.
:: Maybe I could manufacture Mu-metal (shields from magnets and radio)
:: holders for people who don't want to be tracked or spied on.
:: I doubt this would have happened if the election in 2000 had gone
:: properly, but there was Floriduh and brother Jeb, sigh.
:: Bill Baka
You don't really think they want to track you on your bike, do you?
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Date: 31 Mar 2007 19:36:56
From: Bill
Subject: Re: GPS recommendation?
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Roger Zoul wrote:
> Bill wrote:
> :: Bob in CT wrote:
> ::: On Fri, 30 2007 14:35:15 -0400, Bill <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote:
> :::
> :::: Bob in CT wrote:
> ::::: Most new cell phones will send GPS information when you dial 911.
> ::::: So, you might already have something that can be used for
> ::::: emergencies. --Bob in CT
> ::::
> :::: Unfortunately, those have been compromised by Herr Bush. If you
> :::: are a "Party of interest" they can turn on your phone, in your
> :::: pocket and with no ring to keep tabs of where you are and even
> :::: listen in. The weed mandated this after 9/11. Big brother is here
> :::: more than you think. Bill Baka
> :::
> ::: I know. That sucks, too, I must say. We need someone to develop an
> ::: anti-on device that won't allow this to happen.
> :::
> ::: --Bob in CT
> ::
> :: Since I read this in an electronics magazine and saw an on line video
> :: about the situation, they both said that about the only way to
> :: prevent that is to remove the batteries, thus wiping your personal
> :: settings.
>
>
> :: I know this sounds like a propeller cap solution but wrapping it in
> :: tin foil just might make the signal to weak for that to happen.
>
> Sure it will.
>
> My
> :: wife keeps asking why I keep my 2000 vintage phone, and this is the
> :: reason. If I ever ride so far out that I get lost enough to need GPS
> :: then I will just navigate by the sun and/or stars/moon.
> :: Maybe I could manufacture Mu-metal (shields from magnets and radio)
> :: holders for people who don't want to be tracked or spied on.
> :: I doubt this would have happened if the election in 2000 had gone
> :: properly, but there was Floriduh and brother Jeb, sigh.
> :: Bill Baka
>
> You don't really think they want to track you on your bike, do you?
>
>
For my part, I am already a "Person of interest" since being detained
for taking pictures of airplanes at Beale AFB from a public road.
The Goons in suits held me up for about 15 minutes to run all kinds of
checks on me and wait for a County sheriff's deputy to take me and my
bike back to my front door. That was not my idea of a 'friendly' Big
Brother.
Hence I hang on to my pre-9/11 phone with no games, text, video, but
just a basic phone.
This government is not your friend, and if we get another Repuglican you
can be sure the 1984 scenario will become even more so than it is today.
Bill Baka
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