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Date: 11 Sep 2007 14:32:03
From: landotter
Subject: Help me lard up my bike!

I weighed all the accessories on my handy deli scale, front/rear
racks, fenders, lighting, and kickstand, and it only came to around
four pounds! That means I might not even break 30# total.
Pusillanimous!

Waddaya think? 12oz of slime front and rear? An air bag?
Entertainment? I'd sure could go for one of those fruity colored bar
mounted "flavor radios" they used to sell at Radio Shack. Maybe just
strap a boom box to the front rack so I can listen to Neil Conan in
the morning.

Date: 20 Sep 2007 11:53:34
From: thejen12
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

On Sep 11, 7:32 am, landotter <landot...@gmail.com > wrote:
> I weighed all the accessories on my handy deli scale, front/rear
> racks, fenders, lighting, and kickstand, and it only came to around
> four pounds! That means I might not even break 30# total.
> Pusillanimous!
>
> Waddaya think? 12oz of slime front and rear? An air bag?
> Entertainment? I'd sure could go for one of those fruity colored bar
> mounted "flavor radios" they used to sell at Radio Shack. Maybe just
> strap a boom box to the front rack so I can listen to Neil Conan in
> the morning.

Put panniers and trunks on both of the racks - it should be easy to
get another 4-6 pounds just with empty panniers. Also, how about a
lighting system with one of those huge batteries that fits in a water
bottle cage. I just got the newest tail light from Cateye, and I
swear it must weigh half a pound, itself. Also add gel padding under
your handlebar wrap, and make sure you have heavy, steel pedals (like
the cheapest eggbeaters, or Time).

Jenn

Date: 18 Sep 2007 15:09:03
From: Paul O
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

landotter wrote:
> I weighed all the accessories on my handy deli scale, front/rear
> racks, fenders, lighting, and kickstand, and it only came to around
> four pounds! That means I might not even break 30# total.
> Pusillanimous!
>
> Waddaya think? 12oz of slime front and rear? An air bag?
> Entertainment? I'd sure could go for one of those fruity colored bar
> mounted "flavor radios" they used to sell at Radio Shack. Maybe just
> strap a boom box to the front rack so I can listen to Neil Conan in
> the morning.
>
A trailer with beer kegs! See:
<http://bikeportland.org/2005/11/18/360-lbs-of-beerby-bike/ >

I don't know why I didn't think about this sooner...
--

Paul D Oosterhout
I work for SAIC (but I don't speak for SAIC)

Date: 16 Sep 2007 01:27:45
From: Eric
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

On Sep 11, 8:32 am, landotter <landot...@gmail.com > wrote:
> I weighed all the accessories on my handy deli scale, front/rear
> racks, fenders, lighting, and kickstand, and it only came to around
> four pounds! That means I might not even break 30# total.
> Pusillanimous!
>
> Waddaya think? 12oz of slime front and rear? An air bag?
> Entertainment? I'd sure could go for one of those fruity colored bar
> mounted "flavor radios" they used to sell at Radio Shack. Maybe just
> strap a boom box to the front rack so I can listen to Neil Conan in
> the morning.

You could eat a lot of ice cream. I put on 30 pounds just like that!

Date: 15 Sep 2007 02:47:34
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

In article <1189521123.975866.244790@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com >,
landotter <landotter@gmail.com > writes:
> I weighed all the accessories on my handy deli scale, front/rear
> racks, fenders, lighting, and kickstand, and it only came to around
> four pounds! That means I might not even break 30# total.
> Pusillanimous!
>
> Waddaya think?

Steel.

Steel wheels, steel cranks, steel handlebar, steel stem, etc.

Drop by your local chandler's, and get some
unneccessary but very pretty nautical brass
stuff too.

Turn your land-canoe into a land-brigantine.

Don't forget the Jolly Roger flag.
(I've got one, myself. A very nice one.)

A deck gun would weigh it down, real good.

And maybe hang a vanilla-scented car air freshener
on the handlebar. Not much weight, but it's a
nice touch. And it smells nice.

Avast thar ye lily-liver'd land-lovers,
Tom

--
"It's your money that we want, and your money
we shall have"
-- Atom & The Ants

Date: 14 Sep 2007 05:09:10
From: Mike A Schwab
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

On Sep 11, 9:32 am, landotter <landot...@gmail.com > wrote:
> I weighed all the accessories on my handy deli scale, front/rear
> racks, fenders, lighting, and kickstand, and it only came to around
> four pounds! That means I might not even break 30# total.
> Pusillanimous!
>
> Waddaya think? 12oz of slime front and rear? An air bag?
> Entertainment? I'd sure could go for one of those fruity colored bar
> mounted "flavor radios" they used to sell at Radio Shack. Maybe just
> strap a boom box to the front rack so I can listen to Neil Conan in
> the morning.

http://bikesatwork.com/hauling-cargo-by-bike/

Date: 13 Sep 2007 21:13:53
From: DennisTheBald
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

That UTE is styling... wooweebabee!
http://www.konaworld.com/08_ute.htm

But it could use a triple up front, uh maybe not 26/32 is pretty low,
but 36/11 doesn't seem very high... I guess if I fill up the back end
I'm not gonna worry about the big wheels much am I? Still I'd like a
46/11 for deadheading home. Maybe a 22/32/44 crankset would seal the
deal for me.

And as to the price, that's just about 15 tanks of gas right now, but
the price of gas has legs. When it hits two months worth those bikes
will be going real fast, even if they do gots a little chain ring.

Date: 13 Sep 2007 13:29:53
From: Zoot Katz
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:32:03 -0000, landotter <landotter@gmail.com >
wrote:

>I weighed all the accessories on my handy deli scale, front/rear
>racks, fenders, lighting, and kickstand, and it only came to around
>four pounds! That means I might not even break 30# total.
>Pusillanimous!
>
>Waddaya think? 12oz of slime front and rear? An air bag?
>Entertainment? I'd sure could go for one of those fruity colored bar
>mounted "flavor radios" they used to sell at Radio Shack. Maybe just
>strap a boom box to the front rack so I can listen to Neil Conan in
>the morning.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the obvious and currently trendy
way to double the weight of your bike.

Get a couple woefully inadequate electric hub motors and a frame
stressing raft of recycled sealed-lead-acid batteries.

Imagine the joy of hauling home all that lovely expensive useless
stuff that doesn't work now because you rode it more than 15 miles.

You could rig up a few additional desk lamps for safety. "Safety"
meaning you ain't going anywhere further than your extension cord
allows. And definitely no night riding.

In the interest of extending the battery life a bit you could run
four old bottle dynamos and a roller one too. Not only will those add
weight the extra drag surely makes your bike feel even heavier.
--
zk

Date: 12 Sep 2007 22:54:54
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

On Sep 12, 4:56 pm, Dane Buson <d...@unseen.edu > wrote:
> Kristian M Zoerhoff <kristian.zoerh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 2007-09-11, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> That means I might not even break 30# total. Pusillanimous!
>
> >> Waddaya think? 12oz of slime front and rear? An air bag?
>
> > * Extra-thick tubes, fill 'em with as much Slime as they'll take.
> > * Big honkin' U-lock. Or two.
> > * A clutch of spare carabiner clips dangling from the racks like wind chimes.
> > * Conti GatorSkins
>
> Lightweight tires for this application? Pffft. Schwalbe Big Apples or
> Marathon Plus.

I think the stock is a manly 700g to begin with! Not shabby. If I do
replace them, it'll be for IRC Tandems or blackwall Paselas. I do
gotta have my supple tires.

>
> ObCrossThread: What you really need is a dynohub!
>
> --

I've already JB Welded an old LCD underneath the front platform rack--
it's all ya need here in the city. I do have a fork mounted Basta Trio
generator with busted lamp--I could always pick up a new halogen to
bolt to it. That's a good 500g.

With locks and bags, I'm at a good 35# now. Respectable!

Date: 12 Sep 2007 09:38:42
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

On Sep 12, 11:05 am, Paul O <first.d.l...@company.com > wrote:
> landotter wrote:
> > I weighed all the accessories on my handy deli scale, front/rear
> > racks, fenders, lighting, and kickstand, and it only came to around
> > four pounds! That means I might not even break 30# total.
> > Pusillanimous!
>
> > Waddaya think? 12oz of slime front and rear? An air bag?
> > Entertainment? I'd sure could go for one of those fruity colored bar
> > mounted "flavor radios" they used to sell at Radio Shack. Maybe just
> > strap a boom box to the front rack so I can listen to Neil Conan in
> > the morning.
>
> Its so much more fun to lard up your body that your bicycle! It will be
> lunchtime soon. May I suggest a large Philly cheese steak sandwich with
> fried onions and green peppers; a large fries with cheese sauce; and a
> large vanilla milkshake. Mmmm...
>
> After lunch, I suggest you go purchase stronger wheels...
>

No Phillies to be had around here, but we do have the fruitiest named
dog stand in town: "I Dream of Weenie".

I think the place by the Auto Diesel College does Italian Beef double
dips. It's in the basement of a orthopaedic shoe shop. Mmmm, aromatic!

If I really want to lard out, it'd have to be at East Side Fish.
Nothing like breading for a grease delivery system.
http://nashville.citysearch.com/profile/39961549/nashville_tn/east_side_fish.html

Date: 12 Sep 2007 13:05:33
From: Paul O
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

landotter wrote:
> On Sep 12, 11:05 am, Paul O <first.d.l...@company.com> wrote:
>> landotter wrote:
>>> I weighed all the accessories on my handy deli scale, front/rear
>>> racks, fenders, lighting, and kickstand, and it only came to around
>>> four pounds! That means I might not even break 30# total.
>>> Pusillanimous!
>>> Waddaya think? 12oz of slime front and rear? An air bag?
>>> Entertainment? I'd sure could go for one of those fruity colored bar
>>> mounted "flavor radios" they used to sell at Radio Shack. Maybe just
>>> strap a boom box to the front rack so I can listen to Neil Conan in
>>> the morning.
>> Its so much more fun to lard up your body that your bicycle! It will be
>> lunchtime soon. May I suggest a large Philly cheese steak sandwich with
>> fried onions and green peppers; a large fries with cheese sauce; and a
>> large vanilla milkshake. Mmmm...
>>
>> After lunch, I suggest you go purchase stronger wheels...
>>
>
> No Phillies to be had around here, but we do have the fruitiest named
> dog stand in town: "I Dream of Weenie".
>
> I think the place by the Auto Diesel College does Italian Beef double
> dips. It's in the basement of a orthopaedic shoe shop. Mmmm, aromatic!
>
> If I really want to lard out, it'd have to be at East Side Fish.
> Nothing like breading for a grease delivery system.
> http://nashville.citysearch.com/profile/39961549/nashville_tn/east_side_fish.html
>
Mmmmmm! East Side Fish sounds like my my type of place. Nothing is
better than nice big chunk of fresh batter fried catfish with dash of
Tabasco sauce.

Now I'm hungry...
--

Paul D Oosterhout
I work for SAIC (but I don't speak for SAIC)

Date: 12 Sep 2007 12:05:41
From: Paul O
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

landotter wrote:
> I weighed all the accessories on my handy deli scale, front/rear
> racks, fenders, lighting, and kickstand, and it only came to around
> four pounds! That means I might not even break 30# total.
> Pusillanimous!
>
> Waddaya think? 12oz of slime front and rear? An air bag?
> Entertainment? I'd sure could go for one of those fruity colored bar
> mounted "flavor radios" they used to sell at Radio Shack. Maybe just
> strap a boom box to the front rack so I can listen to Neil Conan in
> the morning.
>
Its so much more fun to lard up your body that your bicycle! It will be
lunchtime soon. May I suggest a large Philly cheese steak sandwich with
fried onions and green peppers; a large fries with cheese sauce; and a
large vanilla milkshake. Mmmm...

After lunch, I suggest you go purchase stronger wheels...

--

Paul "Heavy D" Oosterhout
I work for SAIC (but I don't speak for SAIC)

Date: 12 Sep 2007 07:17:43
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

On Sep 12, 8:16 am, Ozark Bicycle
<bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:
> On Sep 12, 7:36 am, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sep 11, 8:55 pm, Ozark Bicycle
>
> > <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
> > > On Sep 11, 3:54 pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Sep 11, 3:21 pm, Ozark Bicycle
>
> > > > <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Sep 11, 1:34 pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Sep 11, 12:42 pm, DennisTheBald <DennisTheB...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Wait, back onto your thread...
> > > > > > > I guess you could have all the weight he takes off onto your bike -
> > > > > > > add a third wheel, add a prop, add an extracycle and strap a fridge
> > > > > > > and a coleman generator to run it off of on the back:http://www.xtracycle.com/
>
> > > > > > In all seriousness, I came within millimeters of ordering a Kona Ute,
> > > > > > sight unseen, which is sort of like an "xtracycle lite". Maybe I'll
> > > > > > trade up next year!
>
> > > > > >http://www.konaworld.com/08_ute.htm
> > > > > >From the site:
>
> > > > > "Buy a Ute and send it to your local congressman. Write us to let us
> > > > > know how it went."
>
> > > > > :-)
>
> > > > > Seriously though, 800 smackeroos is pricey for a mule. This kind of
> > > > > thing will sell when it's less than half that.
>
> > > > I find it a very fair price. I've paid 8 bills without flinching for a
> > > > city bike before. That's what my last Nexus bike went for. Considering
> > > > the spec and limited run, it seems fair.
>
> > > I didn't mean it was overpriced but rather overspeced/overbuilt. A
> > > cheaper frame and cheaper parts could still build up a pretty strong
> > > and serviceable mule. I don't think a heavier frame and parts would
> > > detract from that. At, say, $400 per, it might sell in some numbers.
>
> > Price isn't what's gonna get yankamericanos on the road. Creating a
> > vision of cycling as normalcy will.
>
> Yes! That is the most salient point of all.
>
>
>
> > I've been riding near everyday in
> > this neighborhood for over six years. At first, I was the only person
> > that tooted about to the shops on a fendered European style bike, but
> > then there was another, and then my neighbor had me convert her mtb
> > into the classic urban style, then the other neighbors bought bikes,
> > and the kid down the street had me help him with a hipster fix after
> > seeing my (not so hip) fixie, then we got a sensible bike shop, as
> > Mark thought the East Bank's artists, queers and weirdos needed such a
> > thing. In the end it wasn't my example of riding every day (though a
> > woman accused me of being "very Euro" at the grocery a while back) and
> > it wasn't that Mark sold bikes for cheap--it's easy to spend $800 on a
> > fancy hybrid at his shop--it was just that cycling took root in this
> > dense neighborhood as a "duh, this makes sense" sorta deal.
>
> > Anyway, that's going off topic slightly--but the point is that folks
> > like you and I will look at that Ute and see a value, and newcomers to
> > utility cycling will think, "that's fucked up looking" and move on to
> > the $250 entry level Schwinn. I'm less concerned about a "bargain"
> > version of such a bike, than if Mark stocks fenders, racks, and bags
> > to make "normal" bikes into handy tools, which he does.
>
> IMO, $800 for a sorta one-trick-pony, utility bike is a bit much

That's where we differ. I did a lot of my growing up overseas, and
that Ute looks like a minivan to me. My old Kroon had a rack 2/3's of
that size and it was brilliant. "One-trick" it ain't. Gimme a Ute and
one bike that's more sporting, like a Kona Paddy Wagon, and I'm good
to go.

Sure, a "touring" bike with drop bars might seem to make more sense to
you, but it doesn't to me. Style matters. The Ute looks like what I
grew up with, on steroids. I'd even tour on it with a swap to stair
climber bars. I want a city bike to look like a city bike, not a
touring bike, nor a converted mtb with a crate on the back--despite
their practicality.

> (again, I'm not arguing the value of the Kona Ute); kinda like ~$3k
> for a far more flexible road bike usable for fast rides, light
> touring, etc. Heck, I have four bikes, with another "in utero", and I
> would balk at that price for a mule (even though I use my mule quite a
> bit).
>
> IMO, a ~$400 price point is about right for this *type* of bike to
> move into a more mainstream market position.

It never will be mainstream in this country, and where you see bikes
like this, Holland, the price is a value. Under a grand for a bakfiets
is a bargain.

Those who want to spend $400 can grab a Marin Larkspur or similar and
rackn'fender it up.

Date: 12 Sep 2007 06:16:00
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

On Sep 12, 7:36 am, landotter <landot...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Sep 11, 8:55 pm, Ozark Bicycle
>
>
>
> <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
> > On Sep 11, 3:54 pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Sep 11, 3:21 pm, Ozark Bicycle
>
> > > <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
> > > > On Sep 11, 1:34 pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Sep 11, 12:42 pm, DennisTheBald <DennisTheB...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Wait, back onto your thread...
> > > > > > I guess you could have all the weight he takes off onto your bike -
> > > > > > add a third wheel, add a prop, add an extracycle and strap a fridge
> > > > > > and a coleman generator to run it off of on the back:http://www.xtracycle.com/
>
> > > > > In all seriousness, I came within millimeters of ordering a Kona Ute,
> > > > > sight unseen, which is sort of like an "xtracycle lite". Maybe I'll
> > > > > trade up next year!
>
> > > > >http://www.konaworld.com/08_ute.htm
> > > > >From the site:
>
> > > > "Buy a Ute and send it to your local congressman. Write us to let us
> > > > know how it went."
>
> > > > :-)
>
> > > > Seriously though, 800 smackeroos is pricey for a mule. This kind of
> > > > thing will sell when it's less than half that.
>
> > > I find it a very fair price. I've paid 8 bills without flinching for a
> > > city bike before. That's what my last Nexus bike went for. Considering
> > > the spec and limited run, it seems fair.
>
> > I didn't mean it was overpriced but rather overspeced/overbuilt. A
> > cheaper frame and cheaper parts could still build up a pretty strong
> > and serviceable mule. I don't think a heavier frame and parts would
> > detract from that. At, say, $400 per, it might sell in some numbers.
>
> Price isn't what's gonna get yankamericanos on the road. Creating a
> vision of cycling as normalcy will.

Yes! That is the most salient point of all.

> I've been riding near everyday in
> this neighborhood for over six years. At first, I was the only person
> that tooted about to the shops on a fendered European style bike, but
> then there was another, and then my neighbor had me convert her mtb
> into the classic urban style, then the other neighbors bought bikes,
> and the kid down the street had me help him with a hipster fix after
> seeing my (not so hip) fixie, then we got a sensible bike shop, as
> Mark thought the East Bank's artists, queers and weirdos needed such a
> thing. In the end it wasn't my example of riding every day (though a
> woman accused me of being "very Euro" at the grocery a while back) and
> it wasn't that Mark sold bikes for cheap--it's easy to spend $800 on a
> fancy hybrid at his shop--it was just that cycling took root in this
> dense neighborhood as a "duh, this makes sense" sorta deal.
>
> Anyway, that's going off topic slightly--but the point is that folks
> like you and I will look at that Ute and see a value, and newcomers to
> utility cycling will think, "that's fucked up looking" and move on to
> the $250 entry level Schwinn. I'm less concerned about a "bargain"
> version of such a bike, than if Mark stocks fenders, racks, and bags
> to make "normal" bikes into handy tools, which he does.

IMO, $800 for a sorta one-trick-pony, utility bike is a bit much
(again, I'm not arguing the value of the Kona Ute); kinda like ~$3k
for a far more flexible road bike usable for fast rides, light
touring, etc. Heck, I have four bikes, with another "in utero", and I
would balk at that price for a mule (even though I use my mule quite a
bit).

IMO, a ~$400 price point is about right for this *type* of bike to
move into a more mainstream market position.

Date: 12 Sep 2007 12:36:07
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

On Sep 11, 8:55 pm, Ozark Bicycle
<bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:
> On Sep 11, 3:54 pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Sep 11, 3:21 pm, Ozark Bicycle
>
> > <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
> > > On Sep 11, 1:34 pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Sep 11, 12:42 pm, DennisTheBald <DennisTheB...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Wait, back onto your thread...
> > > > > I guess you could have all the weight he takes off onto your bike -
> > > > > add a third wheel, add a prop, add an extracycle and strap a fridge
> > > > > and a coleman generator to run it off of on the back:http://www.xtracycle.com/
>
> > > > In all seriousness, I came within millimeters of ordering a Kona Ute,
> > > > sight unseen, which is sort of like an "xtracycle lite". Maybe I'll
> > > > trade up next year!
>
> > > >http://www.konaworld.com/08_ute.htm
> > > >From the site:
>
> > > "Buy a Ute and send it to your local congressman. Write us to let us
> > > know how it went."
>
> > > :-)
>
> > > Seriously though, 800 smackeroos is pricey for a mule. This kind of
> > > thing will sell when it's less than half that.
>
> > I find it a very fair price. I've paid 8 bills without flinching for a
> > city bike before. That's what my last Nexus bike went for. Considering
> > the spec and limited run, it seems fair.
>
> I didn't mean it was overpriced but rather overspeced/overbuilt. A
> cheaper frame and cheaper parts could still build up a pretty strong
> and serviceable mule. I don't think a heavier frame and parts would
> detract from that. At, say, $400 per, it might sell in some numbers.

Price isn't what's gonna get yankamericanos on the road. Creating a
vision of cycling as normalcy will. I've been riding near everyday in
this neighborhood for over six years. At first, I was the only person
that tooted about to the shops on a fendered European style bike, but
then there was another, and then my neighbor had me convert her mtb
into the classic urban style, then the other neighbors bought bikes,
and the kid down the street had me help him with a hipster fix after
seeing my (not so hip) fixie, then we got a sensible bike shop, as
Mark thought the East Bank's artists, queers and weirdos needed such a
thing. In the end it wasn't my example of riding every day (though a
woman accused me of being "very Euro" at the grocery a while back) and
it wasn't that Mark sold bikes for cheap--it's easy to spend $800 on a
fancy hybrid at his shop--it was just that cycling took root in this
dense neighborhood as a "duh, this makes sense" sorta deal.

Anyway, that's going off topic slightly--but the point is that folks
like you and I will look at that Ute and see a value, and newcomers to
utility cycling will think, "that's fucked up looking" and move on to
the $250 entry level Schwinn. I'm less concerned about a "bargain"
version of such a bike, than if Mark stocks fenders, racks, and bags
to make "normal" bikes into handy tools, which he does.

Date: 11 Sep 2007 18:55:02
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

On Sep 11, 3:54 pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Sep 11, 3:21 pm, Ozark Bicycle
>
>
>
> <bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
> > On Sep 11, 1:34 pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Sep 11, 12:42 pm, DennisTheBald <DennisTheB...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Wait, back onto your thread...
> > > > I guess you could have all the weight he takes off onto your bike -
> > > > add a third wheel, add a prop, add an extracycle and strap a fridge
> > > > and a coleman generator to run it off of on the back:http://www.xtracycle.com/
>
> > > In all seriousness, I came within millimeters of ordering a Kona Ute,
> > > sight unseen, which is sort of like an "xtracycle lite". Maybe I'll
> > > trade up next year!
>
> > >http://www.konaworld.com/08_ute.htm
> > >From the site:
>
> > "Buy a Ute and send it to your local congressman. Write us to let us
> > know how it went."
>
> > :-)
>
> > Seriously though, 800 smackeroos is pricey for a mule. This kind of
> > thing will sell when it's less than half that.
>
> I find it a very fair price. I've paid 8 bills without flinching for a
> city bike before. That's what my last Nexus bike went for. Considering
> the spec and limited run, it seems fair.

I didn't mean it was overpriced but rather overspeced/overbuilt. A
cheaper frame and cheaper parts could still build up a pretty strong
and serviceable mule. I don't think a heavier frame and parts would
detract from that. At, say, $400 per, it might sell in some numbers.

Date: 11 Sep 2007 23:55:36
From: Zoot Katz
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 18:55:02 -0700, Ozark Bicycle
<bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:

>> > Seriously though, 800 smackeroos is pricey for a mule. This kind of
>> > thing will sell when it's less than half that.
>>
>> I find it a very fair price. I've paid 8 bills without flinching for a
>> city bike before. That's what my last Nexus bike went for. Considering
>> the spec and limited run, it seems fair.
>
>I didn't mean it was overpriced but rather overspeced/overbuilt. A
>cheaper frame and cheaper parts could still build up a pretty strong
>and serviceable mule. I don't think a heavier frame and parts would
>detract from that. At, say, $400 per, it might sell in some numbers.

Martha Stewart didn't sell as many pies at $5.00 as she did at ten.

For $400 you can get an Xtracycle with bags and a deck for attaching
to any old MTB or Hybrid you've got kicking around. There's also a
range of accessories available for them which is something the new
all-in-wonders lack unless they're built ito take advantage of that.
(Surly Big Dummy)

The Kona Ute looks like the lightweight among longtails. There's
currently no provision for passenger foot pegs or wide loaders.

The Yuba Mondo is roughly $1000 - $1400.
It's longer and built for heavy duty service. (42 lbs.)
--
zk

Date: 12 Sep 2007 00:43:35
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

On Sep 11, 5:36 pm, "Bellsouth Ijit 2.0 - Global Warming Edition =AE"
<b...@bellsouth.net > wrote:
> "landotter" <landot...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1189521123.975866.244790@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
>
> >I weighed all the accessories on my handy deli scale, front/rear
> > racks, fenders, lighting, and kickstand, and it only came to around
> > four pounds! That means I might not even break 30# total.
> > Pusillanimous!
>
> > Waddaya think? 12oz of slime front and rear? An air bag?
> > Entertainment? I'd sure could go for one of those fruity colored bar
> > mounted "flavor radios" they used to sell at Radio Shack. Maybe just
> > strap a boom box to the front rack so I can listen to Neil Conan in
> > the morning.
>
> A 95-pound blonde on your rear rack? Knog would approve.

Yeah, an emaciated lesbian with a piercing that promises to chip your
dental work, like that's hot.

Date: 11 Sep 2007 18:36:49
From: Bellsouth Ijit 2.0 - Global Warming Edition �
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

"landotter" <landotter@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1189521123.975866.244790@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
>I weighed all the accessories on my handy deli scale, front/rear
> racks, fenders, lighting, and kickstand, and it only came to around
> four pounds! That means I might not even break 30# total.
> Pusillanimous!
>
> Waddaya think? 12oz of slime front and rear? An air bag?
> Entertainment? I'd sure could go for one of those fruity colored bar
> mounted "flavor radios" they used to sell at Radio Shack. Maybe just
> strap a boom box to the front rack so I can listen to Neil Conan in
> the morning.
>

A 95-pound blonde on your rear rack? Knog would approve.

Date: 11 Sep 2007 17:58:49
From: Luke
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

In article <1189521123.975866.244790@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com >,
landotter <landotter@gmail.com > wrote:

> Entertainment? I'd sure could go for one of those fruity colored bar
> mounted "flavor radios" they used to sell at Radio Shack. Maybe just
> strap a boom box to the front rack so I can listen to Neil Conan in
> the morning.

Neal Conan??!! Only the weightiest sounds are applicable!! The music
with the most mass has gotta be heavy metal. Crank up the Sabbath!

Date: 11 Sep 2007 20:54:55
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

On Sep 11, 3:21 pm, Ozark Bicycle
<bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:
> On Sep 11, 1:34 pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sep 11, 12:42 pm, DennisTheBald <DennisTheB...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Wait, back onto your thread...
> > > I guess you could have all the weight he takes off onto your bike -
> > > add a third wheel, add a prop, add an extracycle and strap a fridge
> > > and a coleman generator to run it off of on the back:http://www.xtracycle.com/
>
> > In all seriousness, I came within millimeters of ordering a Kona Ute,
> > sight unseen, which is sort of like an "xtracycle lite". Maybe I'll
> > trade up next year!
>
> >http://www.konaworld.com/08_ute.htm
> >From the site:
>
> "Buy a Ute and send it to your local congressman. Write us to let us
> know how it went."
>
> :-)
>
> Seriously though, 800 smackeroos is pricey for a mule. This kind of
> thing will sell when it's less than half that.

I find it a very fair price. I've paid 8 bills without flinching for a
city bike before. That's what my last Nexus bike went for. Considering
the spec and limited run, it seems fair. Go into a European city bike
shop, and you'll see that though you usually have a ton of Sachs 3spd
bikes for around $300, there's usually a utility bike price range from
5-800, with often a couple luxe models, like Skeppshult, going for a
grand. If you use the thing day in and day out, it's a teensy chunk of
change, and usually pays for real quality instead of features like
boingers and hydraulic brakes, that aren't needed in town (usually).

Date: 11 Sep 2007 13:21:46
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

On Sep 11, 1:34 pm, landotter <landot...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Sep 11, 12:42 pm, DennisTheBald <DennisTheB...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Wait, back onto your thread...
> > I guess you could have all the weight he takes off onto your bike -
> > add a third wheel, add a prop, add an extracycle and strap a fridge
> > and a coleman generator to run it off of on the back:http://www.xtracycle.com/
>
> In all seriousness, I came within millimeters of ordering a Kona Ute,
> sight unseen, which is sort of like an "xtracycle lite". Maybe I'll
> trade up next year!
>
> http://www.konaworld.com/08_ute.htm

>From the site:

"Buy a Ute and send it to your local congressman. Write us to let us
know how it went."

:-)

Seriously though, 800 smackeroos is pricey for a mule. This kind of
thing will sell when it's less than half that.

Date: 11 Sep 2007 20:07:07
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

On Sep 11, 3:03 pm, "Jim Flom" <jim.flomREM...@telus.net > wrote:
> "landotter" <landot...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1189521123.975866.244790@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
>
> >I weighed all the accessories on my handy deli scale, front/rear
> > racks, fenders, lighting, and kickstand, and it only came to around
> > four pounds! That means I might not even break 30# total.
> > Pusillanimous!
>
> > Waddaya think? 12oz of slime front and rear? An air bag?
> > Entertainment? I'd sure could go for one of those fruity colored bar
> > mounted "flavor radios" they used to sell at Radio Shack. Maybe just
> > strap a boom box to the front rack so I can listen to Neil Conan in
> > the morning.
>
> You need to make it theft proof (and lock-free) by loading it down with duct
> tape.

Suggesting duct tape without visqueen is like serving pork brains
without scrambled eggs!

Date: 11 Sep 2007 20:03:31
From: Jim Flom
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

"landotter" <landotter@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1189521123.975866.244790@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
>I weighed all the accessories on my handy deli scale, front/rear
> racks, fenders, lighting, and kickstand, and it only came to around
> four pounds! That means I might not even break 30# total.
> Pusillanimous!
>
> Waddaya think? 12oz of slime front and rear? An air bag?
> Entertainment? I'd sure could go for one of those fruity colored bar
> mounted "flavor radios" they used to sell at Radio Shack. Maybe just
> strap a boom box to the front rack so I can listen to Neil Conan in
> the morning.
>

You need to make it theft proof (and lock-free) by loading it down with duct
tape.

JF

Date: 11 Sep 2007 18:34:58
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

On Sep 11, 12:42 pm, DennisTheBald <DennisTheB...@gmail.com > wrote:

> Wait, back onto your thread...
> I guess you could have all the weight he takes off onto your bike -
> add a third wheel, add a prop, add an extracycle and strap a fridge
> and a coleman generator to run it off of on the back:http://www.xtracycle.com/

In all seriousness, I came within millimeters of ordering a Kona Ute,
sight unseen, which is sort of like an "xtracycle lite". Maybe I'll
trade up next year!

http://www.konaworld.com/08_ute.htm

Date: 11 Sep 2007 17:42:48
From: DennisTheBald
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

> In memory of the recently deceased inventor of the Gossamer Albatross,
> Paul B. MacCready, Jr., you could build you one of these:
>
> http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/gallery/photo/Albatross/Small/ECN-12665.jpg

The GA ruled, but...

materials have improved greatly in the past 25 years...

This guy spent it all on the light weight prop and cheaped out on the
bike stuff, but with a few mods and some dough he could lighten the
contraption considerably. Maybe enough to make it fly?

http://www.popularmechanics.com/home_journal/workshop/4218427.html?series=27

I don't think the Gossamer Albatross ever hit 20mph. I don't doubt
this guy's claims to have. I ain't got the math skills to know how
much wing you would need to lift it and how much that lift would steal
from your forward but somebody out there does. I do know 20" wheels
weigh way less and the front wheel can go under the bottom bracket and
that you don't have to hold the wheel from both ends of the axle.

Wait, back onto your thread...
I guess you could have all the weight he takes off onto your bike -
add a third wheel, add a prop, add an extracycle and strap a fridge
and a coleman generator to run it off of on the back:
http://www.xtracycle.com/

Date: 15 Sep 2007 11:00:21
From: It's Chris
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

Re: Help me lard up my bike!

Group: rec.bicycles.misc Date: Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 5:42pm (EDT+4) From:
DennisTheBald@gmail.com (DennisTheBald)
In memory of the recently deceased inventor of the Gossamer Albatross,
Paul B. MacCready, Jr., you could build you one of these:
http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/gallery/photo/Albatross/Small/ECN-12665.jpg
The GA ruled, but...
materials have improved greatly in the past 25 years...
This guy spent it all on the light weight prop and cheaped out on the
bike stuff, but with a few mods and some dough he could lighten the
contraption considerably. Maybe enough to make it fly?
http://www.popularmechanics.com/home_journal/workshop/4218427.html?series=3D=
27
=A0=A0I don't think the Gossamer Albatross ever hit 20mph. I don't doubt
this guy's claims to have. I ain't got the math skills to know how much
wing you would need to lift it and how much that lift would steal from
your forward but somebody out there does. I do know 20" wheels weigh way
less and the front wheel can go under the bottom bracket and that you
don't have to hold the wheel from both ends of the axle.
Wait, back onto your thread...
I guess you could have all the weight he takes off onto your bike - add
a third wheel, add a prop, add an extracycle and strap a fridge and a
coleman generator to run it off of on the back:
http://www.xtracycle.com/

* * * * * * *end clip* * * * *

First, MacCready didn't have access to all the neat stuff/materials you
do.

Second, he was an aeronautican engineer, not a bicyclist.

Third, He got the $50.000. You didn't! :-3P

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Date: 11 Sep 2007 16:04:49
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

On Sep 11, 11:00 am, catzz66 <catz...@threeletterservice.com > wrote:
> landotter wrote:
> > I weighed all the accessories on my handy deli scale, front/rear
> > racks, fenders, lighting, and kickstand, and it only came to around
> > four pounds! That means I might not even break 30# total.
> > Pusillanimous!
>
> > Waddaya think? 12oz of slime front and rear? An air bag?
> > Entertainment? I'd sure could go for one of those fruity colored bar
> > mounted "flavor radios" they used to sell at Radio Shack. Maybe just
> > strap a boom box to the front rack so I can listen to Neil Conan in
> > the morning.
>
> In memory of the recently deceased inventor of the Gossamer Albatross,
> Paul B. MacCready, Jr., you could build you one of these:
>
> http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/gallery/photo/Albatross/Small/ECN-12665.jpg

Yeah, and I could just wear a Bell Biker, grow a beard, and pass as a
Vandy prof, too. :-P

Date: 11 Sep 2007 09:04:35
From: Road Dog
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

landotter wrote:
> Entertainment? I'd sure could go for one of those fruity colored bar
> mounted "flavor radios" they used to sell at Radio Shack.

The Disney store had some recently. FM too, not AM like
the RS ones.

I vote for car battery and PIAA lights.

Date: 11 Sep 2007 11:00:02
From: catzz66
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

landotter wrote:
> I weighed all the accessories on my handy deli scale, front/rear
> racks, fenders, lighting, and kickstand, and it only came to around
> four pounds! That means I might not even break 30# total.
> Pusillanimous!
>
> Waddaya think? 12oz of slime front and rear? An air bag?
> Entertainment? I'd sure could go for one of those fruity colored bar
> mounted "flavor radios" they used to sell at Radio Shack. Maybe just
> strap a boom box to the front rack so I can listen to Neil Conan in
> the morning.
>

In memory of the recently deceased inventor of the Gossamer Albatross,
Paul B. MacCready, Jr., you could build you one of these:

http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/gallery/photo/Albatross/Small/ECN-12665.jpg

Date: 11 Sep 2007 12:07:36
From: Just A User
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

catzz66 wrote:
> landotter wrote:
>> I weighed all the accessories on my handy deli scale, front/rear
>> racks, fenders, lighting, and kickstand, and it only came to around
>> four pounds! That means I might not even break 30# total.
>> Pusillanimous!
>>
>> Waddaya think? 12oz of slime front and rear? An air bag?
>> Entertainment? I'd sure could go for one of those fruity colored bar
>> mounted "flavor radios" they used to sell at Radio Shack. Maybe just
>> strap a boom box to the front rack so I can listen to Neil Conan in
>> the morning.
>>
>
> In memory of the recently deceased inventor of the Gossamer Albatross,
> Paul B. MacCready, Jr., you could build you one of these:
>
> http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/gallery/photo/Albatross/Small/ECN-12665.jpg
So what is the backup if your run out of gas mid flight? Landing in the
middle of a highway? Think I will stick with land or water based human
powered vehicles.

Date: 11 Sep 2007 08:50:53
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

On Sep 11, 10:36 am, landotter <landot...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Sep 11, 10:27 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
>
> > landotter wrote:
> > > I weighed all the accessories on my handy deli scale, front/rear
> > > racks, fenders, lighting, and kickstand, and it only came to around
> > > four pounds! That means I might not even break 30# total.
> > > Pusillanimous!
>
> > > Waddaya think? 12oz of slime front and rear? An air bag?
> > > Entertainment? I'd sure could go for one of those fruity colored bar
> > > mounted "flavor radios" they used to sell at Radio Shack. Maybe just
> > > strap a boom box to the front rack so I can listen to Neil Conan in
> > > the morning.
>
> > "http://tinyurl.com/yw3k8u"
>
> "Enhanced by tone generators, pink noise meters, spectrum analyzers,
> and graphic equalizers, the speakers are the heart of the bicycle
> stereo. The stereo amplifier is backed by features such as a Ni-cad
> recharging circuit with up to 8 hours on a single charge; Phillips
> 7505 silicon chips; thermal & short circuit protection; low power
> consumption circuitry; a 6 volt B.T.L. circuit with separate stereo
> grounds; and true left/right channel separation."
>
> Whooooaaa! Color me impressed! Can't do it unless I go for a YMCA
> handlebar, though. :-P
>
> A quick Amazon search proves that there's nothing the Japanese can't
> do:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Sony-ICF-M88B-Bicycle-Computer-Digital/dp/B0002...

Does it play "su-su-sushi-goodbye/try more wasabi-don't cry"?

Date: 11 Sep 2007 15:36:09
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

On Sep 11, 10:27 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com > wrote:
> landotter wrote:
> > I weighed all the accessories on my handy deli scale, front/rear
> > racks, fenders, lighting, and kickstand, and it only came to around
> > four pounds! That means I might not even break 30# total.
> > Pusillanimous!
>
> > Waddaya think? 12oz of slime front and rear? An air bag?
> > Entertainment? I'd sure could go for one of those fruity colored bar
> > mounted "flavor radios" they used to sell at Radio Shack. Maybe just
> > strap a boom box to the front rack so I can listen to Neil Conan in
> > the morning.
>
> "http://tinyurl.com/yw3k8u"

"Enhanced by tone generators, pink noise meters, spectrum analyzers,
and graphic equalizers, the speakers are the heart of the bicycle
stereo. The stereo amplifier is backed by features such as a Ni-cad
recharging circuit with up to 8 hours on a single charge; Phillips
7505 silicon chips; thermal & short circuit protection; low power
consumption circuitry; a 6 volt B.T.L. circuit with separate stereo
grounds; and true left/right channel separation."

Whooooaaa! Color me impressed! Can't do it unless I go for a YMCA
handlebar, though. :-P

A quick Amazon search proves that there's nothing the Japanese can't
do:

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-ICF-M88B-Bicycle-Computer-Digital/dp/B00020M1SW

Date: 11 Sep 2007 08:27:28
From: SMS
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

Date: 15 Sep 2007 10:53:06
From: It's Chris
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

http://tinyurl.com/yw3k8u

That sure beats my handlebar bag stereo set! Won't work with my Bar-cons
though.

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Date: 11 Sep 2007 15:19:44
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

On Sep 11, 10:08 am, "Roger Zoul" <rogerzo...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> landotter wrote:
>
> :: I weighed all the accessories on my handy deli scale, front/rear
> :: racks, fenders, lighting, and kickstand, and it only came to around
> :: four pounds! That means I might not even break 30# total.
> :: Pusillanimous!
>
> Why does a light bike imply some kind of weakness on your part? You want to
> have the SUV of the bike world?

OMG--brainstorm! Brush bars and skid plates!!

Date: 11 Sep 2007 15:17:38
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

On Sep 11, 9:43 am, Ozark Bicycle
<bicycleatel...@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:
> On Sep 11, 9:32 am, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I weighed all the accessories on my handy deli scale, front/rear
> > racks, fenders, lighting, and kickstand, and it only came to around
> > four pounds! That means I might not even break 30# total.
> > Pusillanimous!
>
> > Waddaya think? 12oz of slime front and rear? An air bag?
> > Entertainment? I'd sure could go for one of those fruity colored bar
> > mounted "flavor radios" they used to sell at Radio Shack. Maybe just
> > strap a boom box to the front rack so I can listen to Neil Conan in
> > the morning.
>
> Howz 'bout a nice Brooks Flyer saddle to add a quick 1.9 lbs? Not only
> that, but the Rivendorks will cast admiring glances! ;-)

I just sold a bike with my old Flyer attached to it. It's an anchor
for sure! I'll probably in reality swap out for a Rolls if I don't
like the Velo.

>
> PS - don't forget the twine!

I could wrap and shellac the whole thing so it looks like macram=E9!
With little clay beads, so the trustafarians get jealous!

Date: 11 Sep 2007 11:08:24
From: Roger Zoul
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

landotter wrote:
:: I weighed all the accessories on my handy deli scale, front/rear
:: racks, fenders, lighting, and kickstand, and it only came to around
:: four pounds! That means I might not even break 30# total.
:: Pusillanimous!

Why does a light bike imply some kind of weakness on your part? You want to
have the SUV of the bike world?

::
:: Waddaya think? 12oz of slime front and rear? An air bag?
:: Entertainment? I'd sure could go for one of those fruity colored bar
:: mounted "flavor radios" they used to sell at Radio Shack. Maybe just
:: strap a boom box to the front rack so I can listen to Neil Conan in
:: the morning.

Date: 15 Sep 2007 10:49:54
From: It's Chris
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

Put it all in a trailer. that alone will add 15 pounds.

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Date: 11 Sep 2007 08:06:00
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

On Sep 11, 9:49 am, Just A User <k...@up-yours-spammer.net > wrote:
> Ozark Bicycle wrote:
> > On Sep 11, 9:32 am, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I weighed all the accessories on my handy deli scale, front/rear
> >> racks, fenders, lighting, and kickstand, and it only came to around
> >> four pounds! That means I might not even break 30# total.
> >> Pusillanimous!
>
> >> Waddaya think? 12oz of slime front and rear? An air bag?
> >> Entertainment? I'd sure could go for one of those fruity colored bar
> >> mounted "flavor radios" they used to sell at Radio Shack. Maybe just
> >> strap a boom box to the front rack so I can listen to Neil Conan in
> >> the morning.
>
> > Howz 'bout a nice Brooks Flyer saddle to add a quick 1.9 lbs? Not only
> > that, but the Rivendorks will cast admiring glances! ;-)
>
> > PS - don't forget the twine!
>
> Twine? Did you mean wine? What would you do with twine? Oh my bad! To
> tie stuff to the rear rack!

As the kinky Roman said: "Wine within, twine without."

Date: 11 Sep 2007 07:43:01
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

Date: 11 Sep 2007 10:49:08
From: Just A User
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

Ozark Bicycle wrote:
> On Sep 11, 9:32 am, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I weighed all the accessories on my handy deli scale, front/rear
>> racks, fenders, lighting, and kickstand, and it only came to around
>> four pounds! That means I might not even break 30# total.
>> Pusillanimous!
>>
>> Waddaya think? 12oz of slime front and rear? An air bag?
>> Entertainment? I'd sure could go for one of those fruity colored bar
>> mounted "flavor radios" they used to sell at Radio Shack. Maybe just
>> strap a boom box to the front rack so I can listen to Neil Conan in
>> the morning.
>
> Howz 'bout a nice Brooks Flyer saddle to add a quick 1.9 lbs? Not only
> that, but the Rivendorks will cast admiring glances! ;-)
>
> PS - don't forget the twine!
>
Twine? Did you mean wine? What would you do with twine? Oh my bad! To
tie stuff to the rear rack!

Date: 11 Sep 2007 10:40:22
From: Just A User
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

Date: 11 Sep 2007 14:38:48
From: Kristian M Zoerhoff
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

On 2007-09-11, landotter <landotter@gmail.com > wrote:
> That means I might not even break 30# total. Pusillanimous!
>
> Waddaya think? 12oz of slime front and rear? An air bag?

* Extra-thick tubes, fill 'em with as much Slime as they'll take.
* Big honkin' U-lock. Or two.
* A clutch of spare carabiner clips dangling from the racks like wind chimes.
* Conti GatorSkins
* Some yooge steel platform pedals

If that still doesn't cut it, switch from riding in flip-flops to steel-toe
boots.

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__o Kristian Zoerhoff
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Date: 12 Sep 2007 14:56:26
From: Dane Buson
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

Kristian M Zoerhoff <kristian.zoerhoff@gmail.com > wrote:
> On 2007-09-11, landotter <landotter@gmail.com> wrote:
>> That means I might not even break 30# total. Pusillanimous!
>>
>> Waddaya think? 12oz of slime front and rear? An air bag?
>
> * Extra-thick tubes, fill 'em with as much Slime as they'll take.
> * Big honkin' U-lock. Or two.
> * A clutch of spare carabiner clips dangling from the racks like wind chimes.
> * Conti GatorSkins

Lightweight tires for this application? Pffft. Schwalbe Big Apples or
Marathon Plus.

ObCrossThread: What you really need is a dynohub!

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A programming language. Related to certain social diseases in
that those who have it will not admit it in polite company.

Date: 15 Sep 2007 19:18:41
From: BobT
Subject: Re: Help me lard up my bike!

Detailed, complete, instructions to accomplish this goal can be found here:

http://roberttayloronline.com/Rec/Bicycling/BobJackson/BobJackson.aspx

BobT