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Date: 06 Sep 2006 20:58:34
From: Claire Petersky
Subject: In praise of hot showers
Well, I got scorched for praising the yummy nature of good food, so I'll
probably get it again for saying how wonderful hot showers are. But aren't
they?

You get the road grit, sweat, and bike grease off of the body. You just feel
great again.

And I do appreciate the shower being *hot*. It was a bummer, STP 2004, when
the water was all cold at the Winlock HS gym. Fortunately, the water was
still hot at Shelton on RAPSody. (See trip report here:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.rides/browse_frm/thread/b01058d9c8ff6405/e4ed9322690c5bd8#e4ed9322690c5bd8)

I also appreciate the camraderie of the ladies' shower room on a group ride.
My husband says it's all business in the men's shower truck at the end of
STP. In my experience, women are much more likely to converse, and the talk
tends to be positive. "Aren't we all just awesome from having done this
gnarly bike ride?" tends to be the theme. And it's encouraging to see other
women in various shapes and sizes all having completed the gnarly ride -- it
gives me a lift to think that all of us, some of whom are fatter than me, or
older than me, can all do so well.

--
Warm Regards,

Claire Petersky
http://www.bicyclemeditations.org/
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Date: 11 Sep 2006 21:52:31
From: Ken Pisichko
Subject: Re: In praise of hot showers
Claire Petersky wrote:
> And I do appreciate the shower being *hot*. It was a bummer, STP 2004, when
> the water was all cold at the Winlock HS gym. Fortunately, the water was
> still hot at Shelton on RAPSody. (See trip report here:
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.rides/browse_frm/thread/b01058d9c8ff6405/e4ed9322690c5bd8#e4ed9322690c5bd8)
>
I just finished bicycling the dirt road part of the "Savannah Way"
between Roper Bar and Cape Crawford NT. It was 341 km of the absolutely
most challenging dirt road I have ever been on. Let me tell you that
there is absolutely NOTHING that beats a buff naked wash in a creek
(like the Tawallah Creek) several hundred km away from any village - and
watching the sun rise over the Eucalyptus trees as you finish toweling
off. The water temp was about 23 Celsius in mid August - it gets warmer
by November (over 25C).

Ken, Canada.


 
Date: 11 Sep 2006 13:00:16
From: StephanieM
Subject: Re: In praise of hot showers

Chris Z The Wheelman wrote:
> Well, being an avid camper, even before discovering the bicycle,
> nothing, and I mean NOTHING beats the squeaky clean and refreshing
> feeling one has after a swim in a pristine mountain lake, And one
> doesn't even need soap to acquire it.


You know I honestly prefer a cool shower after riding. Personally I
like the fact you can actually manage to cool of the body via the
shower, otherwise for me its awhile before the body temp goes back to
something normal.



  
Date: 11 Sep 2006 20:54:07
From: Bill Baka
Subject: Re: In praise of hot showers
StephanieM wrote:
> Chris Z The Wheelman wrote:
>> Well, being an avid camper, even before discovering the bicycle,
>> nothing, and I mean NOTHING beats the squeaky clean and refreshing
>> feeling one has after a swim in a pristine mountain lake, And one
>> doesn't even need soap to acquire it.
>
>
> You know I honestly prefer a cool shower after riding. Personally I
> like the fact you can actually manage to cool of the body via the
> shower, otherwise for me its awhile before the body temp goes back to
> something normal.
>
For me the creek and swimming hole can't be beat as a mid-point on my 70
mile deep mountain rides. Then it's a cool shower when I get home. That
makes for a nice overall ride experience. It might count as 2 separate
35 mile rides with the one hour I usually spend in the water, but it is
sooo nice.
Bill Baka


 
Date: 11 Sep 2006 00:39:14
From: Chris Z The Wheelman
Subject: Re: In praise of hot showers
Well, being an avid camper, even before discovering the bicycle,
nothing, and I mean NOTHING beats the squeaky clean and refreshing
feeling one has after a swim in a pristine mountain lake, And one
doesn't even need soap to acquire it.

BUT there are times, especially when the aforementioned lake is not
available, when a hot shower is refreshing.

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"Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"

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Date: 10 Sep 2006 21:10:17
From:
Subject: Re: In praise of hot showers
Elisa Francesca Roselli wrote:

> Bring back the ancient Romans, I say!

I say leave the ancient Romans in their dirty
graves where they belong. Ugh, Romans.
The last thing we need is a bunch of zombies
from ancient Rome wandering around. Think
Dick Ch*n*y times 50.

Robert



  
Date: 11 Sep 2006 00:48:42
From: Chris Z The Wheelman
Subject: Re: In praise of this group
I am proud of all of you! despite the many attempts of an obvious troll,
not one of you rose to his bait! Not one!

Congratulations!

- -
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"Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"

My web Site:
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To E-mail me:
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Date: 09 Sep 2006 19:30:05
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: In praise of hot showers
In article <4502bd9a$0$1781$636a55ce@news.free.fr >,
Elisa Francesca Roselli <nospam@free.fr > writes:

> What a decline. Bring back the ancient Romans, I say! Those were men who
> knew how to take a bath socially!

Apparently so do the Japanese. At least that's what I
got from reading Ian Fleming books, way back when.

It might be interesting to try the koi thing.
In a bath, not a shower. Chances are, in a
shower they'd just die, and showerers could
slip and lose their footings on the little
corpses.

If modern people tried to do the Roman bath thing,
they'd be dropping their phones & laptops in the
water.

I've heard that since the ancient Romans didn't have
soap, they had slaves to scrape the dirt off 'em
with wooden spatulas and olive oil. I guess
bar soap is one of those mundane inventions
that we take too much for granted.

Our local public steambaths here have long had a
reputation as dens of homosexual hedonism, with
all kinds of horsin' around goin' on that has
nothing to do with humid heat relaxing tight
muscles & tendons. So I heard a long, long time
ago via the school playground grapevine -- I
pictured much gratuitous towel-snapping accompanied
with a lot of gleeful male giggling. Ugh.

When I eventually do my cycle tour of Iceland,
I intend to gently slipway myself into some of
those natural spas (and maybe the man-made one at
the thermal energy plant,) and just loll like a
poached egg while thinking about that poem Lewis
Carroll wrote about how much he hates the sea.

Probably couldn't throw a bunch of koi in there
either (and have them survive,) but a bucket of
smoked herring on the side, with some Tuborg, Dab
or Faxe to wash 'em down, might be pretty good.


cheers,
Tom

--
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Above address is just a spam midden.
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Date: 10 Sep 2006 06:58:30
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: In praise of hot showers

"Tom Keats" <tkeats2005@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:dbtvde.vdu.ln@vcn.bc.ca...
[...]
> Our local public steambaths here have long had a
> reputation as dens of homosexual hedonism, with
> all kinds of horsin' around goin' on that has
> nothing to do with humid heat relaxing tight
> muscles & tendons. So I heard a long, long time
> ago via the school playground grapevine -- I
> pictured much gratuitous towel-snapping accompanied
> with a lot of gleeful male giggling. Ugh.
[...]

What the hell is the matter with you anyway? This a public forum, not a
sleaze bucket for Vancouver depraved sinners like yourself. Please show some
respect for American sensitivities. We can't all be slob Canadians like you.
Hells Bells, I'll bet even this French female from the Ile de France (Paris)
finds you disgusting (and the French are not easily disgusted).

I charge Tom Keats with being one of the worst degenerates ever to infest
any newsgroup. Ugh, indeed!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota




 
Date: 09 Sep 2006 15:11:54
From: Elisa Francesca Roselli
Subject: Re: In praise of hot showers
Claire Petersky wrote:
> You just feel
> great again.

Showers (I'm heat-averse and prefer mine, like my coffee, just a tad
above lukewarm, but that's just me) are a great thing.

However, after a long, smutty or sweaty physical challenge is one of the
only times that I find myself actually craving a full-size bath. With
all the recent droughts here these are very much discouraged, so I have
not been able to indulge, in fact I haven't had a bath since my Czech
holiday in April. I find baths are great against body-aches and sore
spots, allow me to lie down rather than stand to attention, hold a
constant temperature (warm or cool, depending on the season) more
reliably than showers, and can include all sorts of fragrant oils and
balms to massage the spirit as well as the body. Plus they make for a
full-scale event, whereas a shower is a rushed, routine thing. Although
I very rarely use it, the presence of a full-size bath was one of the
criteria in my choice of apartment when I bought this one.


> I also appreciate the camraderie of the ladies' shower room on a group ride.

Sounds fun!

> My husband says it's all business in the men's shower truck at the end of
> STP.

What a decline. Bring back the ancient Romans, I say! Those were men who
knew how to take a bath socially!


EFR
Ile de France


  
Date: 10 Sep 2006 06:43:59
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: In praise of hot showers

"Elisa Francesca Roselli" <nospam@free.fr > wrote in message
news:4502bd9a$0$1781$636a55ce@news.free.fr...
> Claire Petersky wrote:
>> You just feel great again.
>
> Showers (I'm heat-averse and prefer mine, like my coffee, just a tad above
> lukewarm, but that's just me) are a great thing.
>
> However, after a long, smutty or sweaty physical challenge is one of the
> only times that I find myself actually craving a full-size bath. With all
> the recent droughts here these are very much discouraged, so I have not
> been able to indulge, in fact I haven't had a bath since my Czech holiday
> in April. I find baths are great against body-aches and sore spots, allow
> me to lie down rather than stand to attention, hold a constant temperature
> (warm or cool, depending on the season) more reliably than showers, and
> can include all sorts of fragrant oils and balms to massage the spirit as
> well as the body. Plus they make for a full-scale event, whereas a shower
> is a rushed, routine thing. Although I very rarely use it, the presence of
> a full-size bath was one of the criteria in my choice of apartment when I
> bought this one.

As much as I hate and despise the French for being treasonous cowards to the
West, I must admit she has got it right about baths vs. showers. Baths are
for civilized beings, showers are for barbarians.

>> I also appreciate the camraderie of the ladies' shower room on a group
>> ride.
>
> Sounds fun!

Sounds God awful if you ask me!

>> My husband says it's all business in the men's shower truck at the end of
>> STP.
>
> What a decline. Bring back the ancient Romans, I say! Those were men who
> knew how to take a bath socially!

No, we do not want to bring back the Roman baths. Way too public! A bath
should be a private affair. Jesus Christ, just have a look at the human
being unclothed. It is the most repugnant sight on the face of the earth.
But typical of French swine to want to bath in public just like they do not
mind pissing in public.

> EFR
> Ile de France

In other words, Paris. Or are you the hunchback of Notre Dame who resides in
the cathedral?

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota






  
Date: 09 Sep 2006 18:22:34
From: James Fitch
Subject: Re: In praise of hot showers
"Elisa Francesca Roselli" <nospam@free.fr > wrote in message
news:4502bd9a$0$1781$636a55ce@news.free.fr...

>whereas a shower is a rushed, routine thing.

Maybe for you it is.... Mine are never rushed, and are always a sensual
delight.

-Jim



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Date: 10 Sep 2006 20:19:47
From: Dane Buson
Subject: Re: In praise of hot showers
James Fitch <jfitch@napanospamnet.net > wrote:
> "Elisa Francesca Roselli" <nospam@free.fr> wrote in message
> news:4502bd9a$0$1781$636a55ce@news.free.fr...
>
>>whereas a shower is a rushed, routine thing.
>
> Maybe for you it is.... Mine are never rushed, and are always a sensual
> delight.

/waves fan at self

Is it just me, or is it hot in here? ;-)

I am rather fond of a nice shower. Usually I'm showering at work, so
I'm not generally lollygagging. On the other hand, I get to take it
uninterrupted (ah the joys of a lock on the bathroom door), unlike at
home.

:-/

--
Dane Buson - sigdane@unixbigots.org
Q: How many surrealists does it take to change a light bulb?
A: Two, one to hold the giraffe, and the other to fill the bathtub
with brightly colored machine tools.


   
Date: 10 Sep 2006 07:12:52
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: In praise of hot showers

"James Fitch" <jfitch@napanospamnet.net > wrote in message
news:1157851352.802881@proxy.napanet.net...
> "Elisa Francesca Roselli" <nospam@free.fr> wrote in message
> news:4502bd9a$0$1781$636a55ce@news.free.fr...
>
>>whereas a shower is a rushed, routine thing.
>
> Maybe for you it is.... Mine are never rushed, and are always a sensual
> delight.

Anyone who takes sensual delight in the process of bathing is a depraved
slob. John Fitch probably also takes sensual delight in pissing and shitting
too. God, why am I always being accosted by morons, idiots and cretins on
these freaking newsgroups.

He doesn't even know if his name is John or Jim. But he mainly values his
privacy according to his newsgroup subscription ("total privacy") so we can
assume he is a nonentity like they all are. Why bother with John or Jim -
just go with J why don't you?

> -Jim

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Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota





  
Date: 09 Sep 2006 17:59:52
From: catzz66
Subject: Re: In praise of hot showers
Elisa Francesca Roselli wrote:

>
>> My husband says it's all business in the men's shower truck at the end
>> of STP.
>
>
> What a decline. Bring back the ancient Romans, I say! Those were men who
> knew how to take a bath socially!
>
>
===============

...And look what happened to the Romans. A bath or a shower is just
something you have to do when you need one. Adjust the temp as needed,
cooler in the summer, hotter in the winter.


 
Date: 07 Sep 2006 10:39:57
From: Brian Huntley
Subject: Re: In praise of hot showers

di wrote:
> "Bill Baka" <bbaka@syix.com> wrote in message
> news:9uOLg.8520$yO7.4165@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
> >> \\paul
> >
> > Hot showers are good, but I have a secluded swimming hole at the halfway
> > point in my long mountain rides that loop around the AFB.
>
> > Bill Baka
>
> I hope it's not square shaped with about 6' high berm all around it, with
> chain link fencing.

Ah, the "Officer's Swimming Pool."



 
Date: 07 Sep 2006 00:03:13
From: Paul Hobson
Subject: Re: In praise of hot showers
Claire Petersky wrote:
> Well, I got scorched for praising the yummy nature of good food, so I'll
> probably get it again for saying how wonderful hot showers are. But aren't
> they?
>
> You get the road grit, sweat, and bike grease off of the body. You just feel
> great again.
>
> And I do appreciate the shower being *hot*. It was a bummer, STP 2004, when
> the water was all cold at the Winlock HS gym.

I actually hate hot water after a ride. If I take even a warm shower
when I get to school, I keep sweating for another 10 min after I'm out.
I take luke warm to cold showers to stop my sweating ASAP. Also, it
gets road grit off just as well ;)

\\paul


  
Date: 07 Sep 2006 09:33:46
From: Pat Lamb
Subject: Re: In praise of hot showers
Paul Hobson wrote:
> Claire Petersky wrote:
>> Well, I got scorched for praising the yummy nature of good food, so
>> I'll probably get it again for saying how wonderful hot showers are.
>> But aren't they?
>>
>> You get the road grit, sweat, and bike grease off of the body. You
>> just feel great again.
>>
>> And I do appreciate the shower being *hot*. It was a bummer, STP 2004,
>> when the water was all cold at the Winlock HS gym.
>
> I actually hate hot water after a ride. If I take even a warm shower
> when I get to school, I keep sweating for another 10 min after I'm out.
> I take luke warm to cold showers to stop my sweating ASAP. Also, it
> gets road grit off just as well ;)

I prefer cool showers too, most of the time. However! after a rain in
the 30s bicycle commute, a hot shower is just the ticket.

Hot or cold, just getting the sweat out of my pores is the wonderful
part of the shower.

Pat


  
Date: 07 Sep 2006 05:54:13
From: Bill Baka
Subject: Re: In praise of hot showers
Paul Hobson wrote:
> Claire Petersky wrote:
>> Well, I got scorched for praising the yummy nature of good food, so
>> I'll probably get it again for saying how wonderful hot showers are.
>> But aren't they?
>>
>> You get the road grit, sweat, and bike grease off of the body. You
>> just feel great again.
>>
>> And I do appreciate the shower being *hot*. It was a bummer, STP 2004,
>> when the water was all cold at the Winlock HS gym.
>
> I actually hate hot water after a ride. If I take even a warm shower
> when I get to school, I keep sweating for another 10 min after I'm out.
> I take luke warm to cold showers to stop my sweating ASAP. Also, it
> gets road grit off just as well ;)
>
> \\paul

Hot showers are good, but I have a secluded swimming hole at the halfway
point in my long mountain rides that loop around the AFB.

Top that for convenience.

There is another upstream under a waterfall but that requires a hike and
20 people have drowned in about as many years by getting too close to
the waterfall. I don't swim in that one, since drowning myself would be
too embarrassing a way to go, I mean off the bike and all.
Bill Baka


   
Date: 07 Sep 2006 08:13:50
From: di
Subject: Re: In praise of hot showers

"Bill Baka" <bbaka@syix.com > wrote in message
news:9uOLg.8520$yO7.4165@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
>> \\paul
>
> Hot showers are good, but I have a secluded swimming hole at the halfway
> point in my long mountain rides that loop around the AFB.

> Bill Baka

I hope it's not square shaped with about 6' high berm all around it, with
chain link fencing.




    
Date: 07 Sep 2006 23:08:38
From: Bill Baka
Subject: Re: In praise of hot showers
di wrote:
> "Bill Baka" <bbaka@syix.com> wrote in message
> news:9uOLg.8520$yO7.4165@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
>>> \\paul
>> Hot showers are good, but I have a secluded swimming hole at the halfway
>> point in my long mountain rides that loop around the AFB.
>
>> Bill Baka
>
> I hope it's not square shaped with about 6' high berm all around it, with
> chain link fencing.
>
>
It is public, on a forest preserve area and no people.
Not many people drive that or go off the road because Beale AFB used it
for a firing range during WWII and they say there a lot of unexploded
duds buried in the ground so they discourage hiking away from the road.
Bill Baka


   
Date: 07 Sep 2006 07:47:56
From: Roger Zoul
Subject: Re: In praise of hot showers
Bill Baka wrote:
:: Paul Hobson wrote:
::: Claire Petersky wrote:
:::: Well, I got scorched for praising the yummy nature of good food, so
:::: I'll probably get it again for saying how wonderful hot showers
:::: are. But aren't they?
::::
:::: You get the road grit, sweat, and bike grease off of the body. You
:::: just feel great again.
::::
:::: And I do appreciate the shower being *hot*. It was a bummer, STP
:::: 2004, when the water was all cold at the Winlock HS gym.
:::
::: I actually hate hot water after a ride. If I take even a warm
::: shower when I get to school, I keep sweating for another 10 min
::: after I'm out. I take luke warm to cold showers to stop my
::: sweating ASAP. Also, it gets road grit off just as well ;)
:::
::: \\paul
::
:: Hot showers are good, but I have a secluded swimming hole at the
:: halfway point in my long mountain rides that loop around the AFB.
::
:: Top that for convenience.
::
:: There is another upstream under a waterfall but that requires a hike
:: and 20 people have drowned in about as many years by getting too
:: close to the waterfall. I don't swim in that one, since drowning
:: myself would be too embarrassing a way to go, I mean off the bike
:: and all.
:: Bill Baka

What if you just rode in there on your bike?




    
Date: 07 Sep 2006 23:05:17
From: Bill Baka
Subject: Re: In praise of hot showers
Roger Zoul wrote:
> Bill Baka wrote:
> :: Paul Hobson wrote:
> ::: Claire Petersky wrote:
> :::: Well, I got scorched for praising the yummy nature of good food, so
> :::: I'll probably get it again for saying how wonderful hot showers
> :::: are. But aren't they?
> ::::
> :::: You get the road grit, sweat, and bike grease off of the body. You
> :::: just feel great again.
> ::::
> :::: And I do appreciate the shower being *hot*. It was a bummer, STP
> :::: 2004, when the water was all cold at the Winlock HS gym.
> :::
> ::: I actually hate hot water after a ride. If I take even a warm
> ::: shower when I get to school, I keep sweating for another 10 min
> ::: after I'm out. I take luke warm to cold showers to stop my
> ::: sweating ASAP. Also, it gets road grit off just as well ;)
> :::
> ::: \\paul
> ::
> :: Hot showers are good, but I have a secluded swimming hole at the
> :: halfway point in my long mountain rides that loop around the AFB.
> ::
> :: Top that for convenience.
> ::
> :: There is another upstream under a waterfall but that requires a hike
> :: and 20 people have drowned in about as many years by getting too
> :: close to the waterfall. I don't swim in that one, since drowning
> :: myself would be too embarrassing a way to go, I mean off the bike
> :: and all.
> :: Bill Baka
>
> What if you just rode in there on your bike?
>
>
That would be like cheating and it is 35 miles one way. The last 15 are
washboard gravel that beats up me and my bike even when I am doing 12
MPH and picking the best way past the big bumps. I took my car once and
had to crawl at about 15 MPH because of all those bumps and big holes.
Once you do get there it is heaven on earth.
Bill Baka


    
Date: 07 Sep 2006 11:58:10
From: R Brickston
Subject: Re: In praise of hot showers
On Thu, 7 Sep 2006 07:47:56 -0400, "Roger Zoul"
<rogerzoul2@hotmail.com > wrote:

>Bill Baka wrote:
>:: Paul Hobson wrote:
>::: Claire Petersky wrote:
>:::: Well, I got scorched for praising the yummy nature of good food, so
>:::: I'll probably get it again for saying how wonderful hot showers
>:::: are. But aren't they?
>::::
>:::: You get the road grit, sweat, and bike grease off of the body. You
>:::: just feel great again.
>::::
>:::: And I do appreciate the shower being *hot*. It was a bummer, STP
>:::: 2004, when the water was all cold at the Winlock HS gym.
>:::
>::: I actually hate hot water after a ride. If I take even a warm
>::: shower when I get to school, I keep sweating for another 10 min
>::: after I'm out. I take luke warm to cold showers to stop my
>::: sweating ASAP. Also, it gets road grit off just as well ;)
>:::
>::: \\paul
>::
>:: Hot showers are good, but I have a secluded swimming hole at the
>:: halfway point in my long mountain rides that loop around the AFB.
>::
>:: Top that for convenience.
>::
>:: There is another upstream under a waterfall but that requires a hike
>:: and 20 people have drowned in about as many years by getting too
>:: close to the waterfall. I don't swim in that one, since drowning
>:: myself would be too embarrassing a way to go, I mean off the bike
>:: and all.
>:: Bill Baka
>
>What if you just rode in there on your bike?

And to make sure you don't fall off, I recommend riding in clipless,
set for the highest cleat tension.


 
Date: 06 Sep 2006 21:53:16
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: In praise of hot showers

"Claire Petersky" <cpetersky@mouse-potato.com > wrote in message
news:_DGLg.7111$bM.3195@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> Well, I got scorched for praising the yummy nature of good food, so I'll
> probably get it again for saying how wonderful hot showers are. But aren't
> they?
>
> You get the road grit, sweat, and bike grease off of the body. You just
> feel great again.
>
> And I do appreciate the shower being *hot*. It was a bummer, STP 2004,
> when the water was all cold at the Winlock HS gym. Fortunately, the water
> was still hot at Shelton on RAPSody. (See trip report here:
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.rides/browse_frm/thread/b01058d9c8ff6405/e4ed9322690c5bd8#e4ed9322690c5bd8)
>
> I also appreciate the camraderie of the ladies' shower room on a group
> ride. My husband says it's all business in the men's shower truck at the
> end of STP. In my experience, women are much more likely to converse, and
> the talk tends to be positive. "Aren't we all just awesome from having
> done this gnarly bike ride?" tends to be the theme. And it's encouraging
> to see other women in various shapes and sizes all having completed the
> gnarly ride -- it gives me a lift to think that all of us, some of whom
> are fatter than me, or older than me, can all do so well.

Claire, allow me to remind you once again that you are a total idiot. I
expect women to be idiots, but I want to thank you for fulfilling my every
expectation I have about your miserable sex. Ah, if only they had any
brains!

You do not need to take a shower (hot or otherwise) more than once a month.
Just how filthy do you get anyway? It is a waste of time and effort to
shower every day after a bike ride because you are going to bathed in sweat
within a few minutes the next day. Those who go on and on about showers,
especially HOT showers, are without exception nothing but freaking idiots
and I never tire of laughing at their stupidities.

Claire, you are a classic for sure, ever as dumb and stupid as they come.
Did you know that the Tibetans only bath once a year and they cover
themselves in yak fat most of the year. We Americans have a fetish about
bathing which is incredibly stupid. I say take a bath once a year and screw
all that other nonsense.

My God, I am living in a world populated by idiots. Does no one else possess
any common sense except me!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota




 
Date: 06 Sep 2006 15:17:33
From: Veloise
Subject: Re: In praise of hot showers
Claire Petersky wrote:
>... And it's encouraging to see other
> women in various shapes and sizes all having completed the gnarly ride -- it
> gives me a lift to think that all of us, some of whom are fatter than me, or
> older than me, can all do so well.

One of the best things I ever did was take my upper elem-age nieces on
GOBA. Now that they are teens going through the body beautiful hassle,
I hope the lesson still has some impact.

--Karen D.
once made a locker room full of nekkid women happy on TOSRV by
scrubbing the calcium blockage out of the second shower head



 
Date: 06 Sep 2006 17:56:19
From: Ken C. M.
Subject: Re: In praise of hot showers
Claire Petersky wrote:

> You get the road grit, sweat, and bike grease off of the body. You just feel
> great again.
>
> And I do appreciate the shower being *hot*. It was a bummer, STP 2004, when
> the water was all cold at the Winlock HS gym. Fortunately, the water was
> still hot at Shelton on RAPSody. (See trip report here:
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.rides/browse_frm/thread/b01058d9c8ff6405/e4ed9322690c5bd8#e4ed9322690c5bd8)
>

Yeap I agree with you on that one. A shower feels good no matter what,
but a hot shower feels so much better than a cold shower. While on tour
I hod the opportunity to take both hot and cold on different days and
the hot sure did feel better after a long day on the bike, or a day when
the wind made it feel like I was climbing mountains all day. Hot water
just seems to make it all melt away.

Ken
--
Messengers and mountain bikers share a common chromosome. ~James Bethea


  
Date: 07 Sep 2006 12:41:56
From: Marlene Blanshay
Subject: Re: In praise of hot showers
Ken C. M. wrote:
> Claire Petersky wrote:
>
>> You get the road grit, sweat, and bike grease off of the body. You
>> just feel great again.
>>
>> And I do appreciate the shower being *hot*. It was a bummer, STP 2004,
>> when the water was all cold at the Winlock HS gym. Fortunately, the
>> water was still hot at Shelton on RAPSody. (See trip report here:
>> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.rides/browse_frm/thread/b01058d9c8ff6405/e4ed9322690c5bd8#e4ed9322690c5bd8)
>>
>>
>
> Yeap I agree with you on that one. A shower feels good no matter what,
> but a hot shower feels so much better than a cold shower. While on tour
> I hod the opportunity to take both hot and cold on different days and
> the hot sure did feel better after a long day on the bike, or a day when
> the wind made it feel like I was climbing mountains all day. Hot water
> just seems to make it all melt away.
>
> Ken

i'm one of those people who loves really hot showers- i like being
parboiled. However, i found that because i hvae slightly dry skin, and
take a lot of showers in the summer, i have to watch out for skin drying
out and shmear on a lot of lotion. The sun also can dry your skin. But I
still love hot showers.


  
Date: 06 Sep 2006 22:08:09
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: In praise of hot showers

"Ken C. M." <ken@up-yours-spammer.net > wrote in message
news:SNOdnUVuqPWb2WLZnZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d@giganews.com...
> Claire Petersky wrote:
>
>> You get the road grit, sweat, and bike grease off of the body. You just
>> feel great again.
>>
>> And I do appreciate the shower being *hot*. It was a bummer, STP 2004,
>> when the water was all cold at the Winlock HS gym. Fortunately, the water
>> was still hot at Shelton on RAPSody. (See trip report here:
>> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.rides/browse_frm/thread/b01058d9c8ff6405/e4ed9322690c5bd8#e4ed9322690c5bd8)
>>
>
> Yeap I agree with you on that one. A shower feels good no matter what, but
> a hot shower feels so much better than a cold shower. While on tour I hod
> the opportunity to take both hot and cold on different days and the hot
> sure did feel better after a long day on the bike, or a day when the wind
> made it feel like I was climbing mountains all day. Hot water just seems
> to make it all melt away.
>
> Ken

Nonsense! Showers of any kind are for idiots and sissies. I can go for
decades without taking a shower. A bath is the only civilized way to come
into contact with water. Those who take showers are without exception slobs
and cretins. In fact, they are barbarians and not fit to reside in my Roman
Empire - where the baths reign supreme.

I urge all to abhor showers as uncivilized and to ever only insist on proper
baths.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota