Is it time for TriMet to share its right-of-way?

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Date: 25 May 2007 13:47:35
From: Paul J. Berg
Subject: Is it time for TriMet to share its right-of-way?

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Since Portland, Oregon is a city of light rail and bicycle enthusiasts,
I have found the perfect vehicle for both. See
<http://catskillarchive.com/rrextra/odveloc1.jpg >.

~

Date: 26 May 2007 18:37:52
From:
Subject: Re: Is it time for TriMet to share its right-of-way?

On May 25, 1:47 pm, pjb...@webtv.net (Paul J. Berg) wrote:
> Since Portland, Oregon is a city of light rail and bicycle enthusiasts,
> I have found the perfect vehicle for both. See
> <http://catskillarchive.com/rrextra/odveloc1.jpg>.
>
There's a little problem with allowing slower-moving human-powered
devices to use the tracks: along much of the alignment, trains reach
freeway speeds of 55 MPH. Preventing devices like these from using
MAX tracks is just like preventing slow-moving bicycles/pedestrians/
other things from using urban sections of I-5 and I-205.

--Jason McHuff, http://www.jasonmchuff.net/

Date: 26 May 2007 14:25:12
From: Paul J. Berg
Subject: Re: I forgot MAX is unflexable and can't handle problems

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What will TriMet do, when the 205 MAX line opens for business, and the
battle begins on who will control the drug trade on this new line?

The 205 MAX will, for most of its run, be going thru the area Portland
police have called, for many years, "Felony Flats" (and more recently
Tweakertown).
~

Date: 26 May 2007 14:12:34
From: Paul J. Berg
Subject: Re: I forgot MAX is unflexable and can't handle problems

Date: 26 May 2007 10:19:20
From: Paul J. Berg
Subject: I forgot MAX is unflexable and can't handle problems

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Police have arrested two teen boys in connection with a shots-fired
call Thursday evening in Northeast Portland.

Daniel Binns and Erick Butler, both 16, are charged with unauthorized
possession of a weapon, carrying a concealed weapon, reckless
endangering, disorderly conduct and interfering with public
transportation.

Two handguns were found at the scene, police said, but no victim was
identified.

At least five people were detained Thursday night after shots were
reportedly fired around 7:10 p.m. in the 1500 block Northeast 82nd
Avenue.

Portland Police Bureau Sgt. Brian Schmautz said some of the suspects
ran toward the tracks near the Northeast 82nd Avenue MAX Light Rail
Station.

TriMet had to hold its MAX trains and bus passengers between PDX and
the Rose Quarter for about an hour. The 1500 block of Northeast 82nd
Avenue was also shut down.

~

Date: 26 May 2007 14:17:38
From: lein
Subject: Re: I forgot MAX is unflexable and can't handle problems

"Paul J. Berg" <pjberg@webtv.net > wrote in news:1180199960.020331.131070
@p47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com:

> ~
>
> Police have arrested two teen boys in connection with a shots-fired
> call Thursday evening in Northeast Portland.
>
> Daniel Binns and Erick Butler, both 16, are charged with unauthorized
> possession of a weapon, carrying a concealed weapon, reckless
> endangering, disorderly conduct and interfering with public
> transportation.
>
> Two handguns were found at the scene, police said, but no victim was
> identified.
>
> At least five people were detained Thursday night after shots were
> reportedly fired around 7:10 p.m. in the 1500 block Northeast 82nd
> Avenue.
>
> Portland Police Bureau Sgt. Brian Schmautz said some of the suspects
> ran toward the tracks near the Northeast 82nd Avenue MAX Light Rail
> Station.
>
> TriMet had to hold its MAX trains and bus passengers between PDX and
> the Rose Quarter for about an hour. The 1500 block of Northeast 82nd
> Avenue was also shut down.
>
> ~
>
>

MAX is nothing but a collection of single points of failure. If a door
is ajar, the system is shut down. I truck's mirror hit's a MAX train's
mirror, the system goes down.

Date: 25 May 2007 22:04:00
From: Curt
Subject: Re: Is it time for TriMet to share its right-of-way?

Date: 26 May 2007 04:51:43
From: Jr. Bonner
Subject: Re: Is it time for TriMet to share its right-of-way?

Curt needs to fuck off and eat shit.

Date: 25 May 2007 19:25:53
From: Paul J. Berg
Subject: Re: Is it time for TriMet to share its right-of-way?

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This sharing of the rails can work. TriMet Max trains could run on
odd number days, and the cyclists could have the even number days.

Are not Portland pedestrians expected to share their walkways on some
bridges with cyclists?

Aren't motorists sharing the Portland streets with cyclists? In some
cases, there has even been the loss of traffic and/or parking lanes to
accommodate for dedicated bike lanes. Cyclists are even allowed to
use the freeways in Portland.

And, pity the poor hiker who get in the way of a mountain bike rider
on one of Portland many park paths.

So, why should the TriMet Light Rail right-of-ways be off limits to
cyclists?

~

Date: 25 May 2007 19:13:42
From: Paul J. Berg
Subject: Re: Is it time for TriMet to share its right-of-way?

Date: 26 May 2007 02:33:31
From: Lobby Dosser
Subject: Re: Is it time for TriMet to share its right-of-way?

"Paul J. Berg" <pjberg@webtv.net > wrote:

> ~
>
> This sharing of the rails can work. TriMet Max trains could run on
> odd number days, and the cyclists could have the even number days.
>
> Are not Portland pedestrians expected to share their walkways on some
> bridges with cyclists?
>
> Aren't motorists sharing the Portland streets with cyclists? In some
> cases, there has even been the loss of traffic and/or parking lanes to
> accommodate for dedicated bike lanes. Cyclists are even allowed to
> use the freeways in Portland.
>
> And, pity the poor hiker who get in the way of a mountain bike rider
> on one of Portland many park paths.
>
> So, why should the TriMet Light Rail right-of-ways be off limits to
> cyclists?
>
> ~
>
>

Sic 'Em!!

Date: 25 May 2007 18:35:00
From: Spread Eagle®
Subject: Re: Is it time for TriMet to share its right-of-way?

"Paul J. Berg" <pjberg@webtv.net > wrote in message
news:29448-46574B67-113@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net...
> ~
>
> Since Portland, Oregon is a city of light rail and bicycle enthusiasts,
> I have found the perfect vehicle for both. See
> <http://catskillarchive.com/rrextra/odveloc1.jpg>.

Anybody contemplating such would be well advised to dispense with that idea.
MAX has a long sorry history of killing people like that.

--
The Spreadster®
------------------------
It takes a school to bankrupt the village

Date: 25 May 2007 22:09:21
From: Curt
Subject: Re: Is it time for TriMet to share its right-of-way?

"Spread Eagle®" <redsky@virtualhosts.net > wrote in message
news:OoCdnUO4etZSE8rbnZ2dnUVZ_tKjnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> "Paul J. Berg" <pjberg@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:29448-46574B67-113@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net...
> > ~
> >
> > Since Portland, Oregon is a city of light rail and bicycle enthusiasts,
> > I have found the perfect vehicle for both. See
> > <http://catskillarchive.com/rrextra/odveloc1.jpg>.
>
>
>
>
> Anybody contemplating such would be well advised to dispense with that
idea.
> MAX has a long sorry history of killing people like that.

"People like that"? You mean on bicycle/rail contraption things?

Or in derby hats?

Curt

Date: 25 May 2007 22:58:15
From: Lobby Dosser
Subject: Re: Is it time for TriMet to share its right-of-way?

pjberg@webtv.net (Paul J. Berg) wrote:

> ~
>
> Since Portland, Oregon is a city of light rail and bicycle
> enthusiasts, I have found the perfect vehicle for both. See
> <http://catskillarchive.com/rrextra/odveloc1.jpg>.
>
> ~
>

Handcars are pretty good.

Date: 25 May 2007 17:24:50
From: DougC
Subject: Re: Is it time for TriMet to share its right-of-way?

Paul J. Berg wrote:
> ~
>
> Since Portland, Oregon is a city of light rail and bicycle enthusiasts,
> I have found the perfect vehicle for both. See
> <http://catskillarchive.com/rrextra/odveloc1.jpg>.
>
> ~
>

It's called a "railbike":

http://images.google.com/images?um=1&tab=wi&hl=en&q=railbike

Date: 25 May 2007 14:30:15
From: Bob Beauchaine
Subject: Re: Is it time for TriMet to share its right-of-way?

On May 25, 1:47 pm, pjb...@webtv.net (Paul J. Berg) wrote:
> ~
>
> Since Portland, Oregon is a city of light rail and bicycle enthusiasts,
> I have found the perfect vehicle for both. See
> <http://catskillarchive.com/rrextra/odveloc1.jpg>.
>
> ~

It might not be a bad idea were it not for the fact that Portland is
also populated with people who are demonstrably too thick to keep
themselves and/or their vehicles from jumping in front of moving
trains.

Can't wait to see Spammy's "Great idea! Let's bag a few bikers"
response.

Date: 25 May 2007 19:50:42
From: lein
Subject: Re: Is it time for TriMet to share its right-of-way?

Bob Beauchaine <b.beauchaine@comcast.net > wrote in
news:1180128615.381158.233060@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com:

> On May 25, 1:47 pm, pjb...@webtv.net (Paul J. Berg) wrote:
>> ~
>>
>> Since Portland, Oregon is a city of light rail and bicycle enthusiasts,
>> I have found the perfect vehicle for both. See
>> <http://catskillarchive.com/rrextra/odveloc1.jpg>.
>>
>> ~
>
> It might not be a bad idea were it not for the fact that Portland is
> also populated with people who are demonstrably too thick to keep
> themselves and/or their vehicles from jumping in front of moving
> trains.
>
> Can't wait to see Spammy's "Great idea! Let's bag a few bikers"
> response.
>

Can't they put cow catchers in front of the train?