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Date: 02 Feb 2007 19:54:05
From: Bob Newman
Subject: Is this considered an off-road bike
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I know it's very basic but is a Trek Navigator considered an off-road bike?
Thanks... Bob
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Date: 04 Feb 2007 17:49:01
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Is this considered an off-road bike
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On Feb 4, 5:00 pm, "Bob Newman" <bobnew...@cox.net > wrote:
> It will be locked up outside ALL day long in the stendent gehetto of a
> college town! Hence my interest in a good lock.
>
You're better off getting something from Craigslist, geekifying it
with fenders and a rack, and even giving it a classic "tape job" with
electrical tape. College campuses are the absolute worst places for
theft. Why worry about something expensive?
I routinely see decent hybrids for $100 on my local list. Add in a
mini U-lock, and a cable, accessories, and you can be in for under
$200.
I like the Onguard pitbull mini, (thanks, Paul) as it's fairly priced,
and takes enough minutes to grind through to make trying not worth the
bother if the bike you're locking up isn't something spectacular.
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/lock-strategy.html
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Date: 03 Feb 2007 21:10:01
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Is this considered an off-road bike
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On Feb 3, 9:33 pm, "Bob Newman" <bobnew...@cox.net > wrote:
> You sound pretty knowledgable Mike. I'll be making about a ten mile in town
> round trip to work every day. Do you think I would gain a lot by going to a
> lighter more traditional "townie" bike?
>
Mike *is* very knowledgeable, he runs bike shop. :-) I'm Max, and a
guy that has commuted on and off for years. ;-) My three bits are: if
it's not a hilly five miles there, it's not vastly important what you
ride--indeed, if you have to lock in a sketchy area, something with a
less than stellar physical appearance may be just up your alley. If
that's no worry, and you don't mind spending money, then there are
plenty of options. The big three would be 1) Get a larger wheeled "do
everything" hybrid with 28-35mm tires and add whatever accessories you
need 2) Get one of those Euro style Breezer town bikes with all the
trimmings and a geared hub 3) A traditional drop bar touring bike with
added whatnots.
A utility bike won't necessarily be any lighter than the bike you're
selling, but it can most certainly feel zippier. Even if it has all
the doo-dads on it that make it hefty to lift, if it's got, say 350g
30mm tires instead of twice as heavy and wide tires that were on your
Navigator, it's going to feel much nippier as you've got far less
rolling resistance and gyroscopic force to accelerate.
What's your route like, how do you want to use the bike, in what
clothes, how much to spend--all are factors in what to start looking
at. It's a good time of year for shopping used as well, nice nearly
new bikes are going on my local Craigslist for less than half of their
summer prices.
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Date: 04 Feb 2007 17:50:44
From: nash
Subject: Re: Is this considered an off-road bike
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Have you looked at Trek's comfort road bike.
Looks like what you want for commuting.
Would not keep it locked outside for any length of time though. Bound to be
stripped of parts. Nice bike though
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Date: 04 Feb 2007 18:00:49
From: Bob Newman
Subject: Re: Is this considered an off-road bike
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It will be locked up outside ALL day long in the stendent gehetto of a
college town! Hence my interest in a good lock.
Bob
"nash" <zwepytzkehillc9@jetable.net > wrote in message
news:U1pxh.877840$5R2.643898@pd7urf3no...
> Have you looked at Trek's comfort road bike.
> Looks like what you want for commuting.
> Would not keep it locked outside for any length of time though. Bound to
> be stripped of parts. Nice bike though
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Date: 04 Feb 2007 19:28:53
From: Patrick Lamb
Subject: Re: Is this considered an off-road bike
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On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 18:00:49 -0500, "Bob Newman" <bobnewman@cox.net >
wrote:
>It will be locked up outside ALL day long in the stendent gehetto of a
>college town! Hence my interest in a good lock.
I got a frame replaced (for anyone keeping track, Fuji came through
for me!), but they didn't replace the fork. So I've got a beautiful
blue fork, a sort of burnt orange frame, mismatched fenders, a real
beater to look at. The mechanic at the shop suggested painting the
fork black, cause it matches anything, but I may just leave it like it
is. It certainly is not going to be stolen for its "cool" factor!
Pat
Email address works as is.
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Date: 04 Feb 2007 23:18:46
From: nash
Subject: Re: Is this considered an off-road bike
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"Bob Newman" <bobnewman@cox.net > wrote in message
news:vBtxh.215949$Yu6.42847@newsfe16.lga...
> It will be locked up outside ALL day long in the stendent gehetto of a
> college town! Hence my interest in a good lock.
>
> Bob
>
> "nash" <zwepytzkehillc9@jetable.net> wrote in message
> news:U1pxh.877840$5R2.643898@pd7urf3no...
>> Have you looked at Trek's comfort road bike.
>> Looks like what you want for commuting.
>> Would not keep it locked outside for any length of time though. Bound to
>> be stripped of parts. Nice bike though
>>
>
The norm now is two locks. One cable through the front wheel and looped
through a good Kryptonite lock(for the rear wheel) like the New Yorker and
locked to something immovable. not a parking meter in other words.
Alternately you have to remove the front and add to the middle. I always
thought that to be more difficult than using an extra cable.
I have my seat included in the loop. The New Yorker is 4lbs and has the
highest security rating. Got real fit toting that around.
Cheers
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Date: 03 Feb 2007 02:49:18
From: Mike Jacoubowsky
Subject: Re: Is this considered an off-road bike
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>I know it's very basic but is a Trek Navigator considered an off-road bike?
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> Thanks... Bob
I'd call it a comfortable heavy-duty City bike. Tougher than a regular
hybrid with its heavier duty mountain-bike-style wheels.
But it's not an off-road or "trail" bike by any reasonable definition.
--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
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Date: 03 Feb 2007 22:33:43
From: Bob Newman
Subject: Re: Is this considered an off-road bike
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You sound pretty knowledgable Mike. I'll be making about a ten mile in town
round trip to work every day. Do you think I would gain a lot by going to a
lighter more traditional "townie" bike?
Bob
"Mike Jacoubowsky" <MikeJ@ChainReaction.com > wrote in message
news:OKSwh.7408$O02.4096@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net...
> >I know it's very basic but is a Trek Navigator considered an off-road
> >bike?
>>
>> Thanks... Bob
>
>
> I'd call it a comfortable heavy-duty City bike. Tougher than a regular
> hybrid with its heavier duty mountain-bike-style wheels.
>
> But it's not an off-road or "trail" bike by any reasonable definition.
>
> --Mike Jacoubowsky
> Chain Reaction Bicycles
> www.ChainReaction.com
> Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
>
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Date: 02 Feb 2007 18:08:48
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Is this considered an off-road bike
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On Feb 2, 7:50 pm, "Bob Newman" <bobnew...@cox.net > wrote:
> Niether. I'm looking to trade it for a lighter hybrid for around the city.
> I wanted to describe it as an off-road bike but I didn't want to mislead
> anyone.
>
> Bob
>
> "landotter" <landot...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> news:1170465476.643146.160230@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
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> > On Feb 2, 6:54 pm, "Bob Newman" <bobnew...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> I know it's very basic but is a Trek Navigator considered an off-road
> >> bike?
>
> >> Thanks... Bob
>
> > It'll do smoothish dirt trails just fine, regardless of what you want
> > to call it. What sort of terrain do you want to attempt on one?
I think "comfort bike" is the current meme. Or call it a hybrid.
People looking for true off road bikes won't be interested, but it's
certainly capable of a trail here or there.
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Date: 02 Feb 2007 21:34:50
From: Bob Newman
Subject: Re: Is this considered an off-road bike
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Thanks... Bob
"landotter" <landotter@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1170468528.430643.228170@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 2, 7:50 pm, "Bob Newman" <bobnew...@cox.net> wrote:
>> Niether. I'm looking to trade it for a lighter hybrid for around the
>> city.
>> I wanted to describe it as an off-road bike but I didn't want to mislead
>> anyone.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> "landotter" <landot...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> news:1170465476.643146.160230@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > On Feb 2, 6:54 pm, "Bob Newman" <bobnew...@cox.net> wrote:
>> >> I know it's very basic but is a Trek Navigator considered an off-road
>> >> bike?
>>
>> >> Thanks... Bob
>>
>> > It'll do smoothish dirt trails just fine, regardless of what you want
>> > to call it. What sort of terrain do you want to attempt on one?
>
>
>
> I think "comfort bike" is the current meme. Or call it a hybrid.
> People looking for true off road bikes won't be interested, but it's
> certainly capable of a trail here or there.
>
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Date: 02 Feb 2007 17:17:56
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Is this considered an off-road bike
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On Feb 2, 6:54 pm, "Bob Newman" <bobnew...@cox.net > wrote:
> I know it's very basic but is a Trek Navigator considered an off-road bike?
>
> Thanks... Bob
It'll do smoothish dirt trails just fine, regardless of what you want
to call it. What sort of terrain do you want to attempt on one?
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Date: 02 Feb 2007 20:50:09
From: Bob Newman
Subject: Re: Is this considered an off-road bike
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Niether. I'm looking to trade it for a lighter hybrid for around the city.
I wanted to describe it as an off-road bike but I didn't want to mislead
anyone.
Bob
"landotter" <landotter@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1170465476.643146.160230@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 2, 6:54 pm, "Bob Newman" <bobnew...@cox.net> wrote:
>> I know it's very basic but is a Trek Navigator considered an off-road
>> bike?
>>
>> Thanks... Bob
>
> It'll do smoothish dirt trails just fine, regardless of what you want
> to call it. What sort of terrain do you want to attempt on one?
>
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