bicycle-forum.net
Promoting biking discussion.

Main
Date: 05 Mar 2007 20:27:01
From:
Subject: Islam, the Religion of Ease
Excuse me!!
Would you stop for a moment?!
O...man...Haven't you thought-one day- about yourself ?
Who has made it?
Have you seen a design which hasn't a designer ?!
Have you seen a wonderful,delicate work without a worker ?!
It's you and the whole universe!..
Who has made them all ?!!
You know who ?.. It's "ALLAH",prise be to him.
Just think for a moment.
How are you going to be after death ?!
Can you believe that this exact system of the universe and all of
these great creation will end in in nothing...just after death!
Have you thought, for a second, How to save your soul from Allah's
punishment?!
Haven't you thought about what is the right religion?!
Read ... and think deeply before you answer..
It is religion of Islam.
It is the religion that Mohammad-peace upon him- the last prophet, had
been sent by.
It is the religion that the right Bible- which is not distorted-has
preached.
Just have a look at The Bible of (Bernaba).
Don't be emstional.
Be rational and judge..
Just look..listen...compare..and then judge and say your word.
We advise you visiting :
http://www.islam-guide.com
http://www.thetruereligion.org
http://www.beconvinced.com
http://www.plaintruth.org
http://english.islamway.com
http://www.todayislam.com
http://www.prophetmuhammed.org
http://www.islamtoday.net/english/
http://www.islamunveiled.org
http://www.islamic-knowledge.com





 
Date: 07 Mar 2007 10:36:10
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: Islam, the Religion of Dis-Ease
In article <ksa3c4-9hm.ln1@curare.zuvembi.homelinux.org >,
Dane Buson <dane@unseen.edu > writes:

> Now, if I could just get her to change her chain occasionally...

She should use a Rivoli chain tool to take the
old one off.


cheers,
Tom

--
Nothing is safe from me.
Above address is just a spam midden.
I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca


 
Date: 06 Mar 2007 21:20:54
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: Islam, the Religion of Dis-Ease
In article <qssqu25pld26j3repshhddd2fmp9hv3r5b@4ax.com >,
dgk <dgk@somewhere.com > writes:

>>The problems occur when radicals [mis]interpret things to
>>their own advantages or world views. That happens with
>>almost any religion (although I've not yet heard of any
>>B'hai radicals.) Maybe something similar occurs within
>>bicycle advocacy? Like the ongoing bike-lanes-everywhere/
>>no-bike-lanes-anywhere arguments.
>>
>>
>>cheers,
>> Tom
>
> Come on Tom, actual rationality when it comes to religion?

About as much as there is when it comes to cycling,
or to computer operating systems/environments, for
that matter.

I mean, now I find out we even have chain tool sects.
Then there are the bike light sects, the h*lm*t sects,
and the frame material sects.

> Damn them
> all to hell. Assuming, that is, that there is a hell.

Oh no, not in a hearbeat! Our job in this world is
to overcome the things & urges that pull us apart
and destroy us, and instead find ways to pull us
together and make humanity one big triumph. That
means being warm-heartedly accepting of even
triathletes -- who knows, maybe they'll eventually
grow into being real cyclists ;-)


cheers,
Tom

--
Nothing is safe from me.
Above address is just a spam midden.
I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca


  
Date: 07 Mar 2007 09:55:00
From: Dane Buson
Subject: Re: Islam, the Religion of Dis-Ease
Tom Keats <tkeats2005@hotmail.com > wrote:
> dgk <dgk@somewhere.com> writes:
>
>> Damn them all to hell. Assuming, that is, that there is a hell.

> Oh no, not in a hearbeat! Our job in this world is to overcome the
> things & urges that pull us apart and destroy us, and instead find
> ways to pull us together and make humanity one big triumph. That
> means being warm-heartedly accepting of even triathletes -- who knows,
> maybe they'll eventually grow into being real cyclists ;-)

I've actually been really impressed with my trigeek coworker. She has
continued cycling all through the winter. It's been interesting seeing
the evolution of her rain gear and lighting. It's also amusing to see
her going from all roadie gear to commuter gear.

She started out with your typical Tiagra equipped racing bike with
aerobars. To which she added fenders. And lights. And a Carradice SQR
bag. She swapped out her Looks for SPDs so she could walk off the bike.
In fact, she recently had multiple flats on the way home and now she's
ordered athon Plus tires for commuting.

She's now has plans to pick up a cyclocross style bike for the ease of
putting on fenders and wider tires. Her current road bike should be
fine for the rest of not-quite-as-rainy season.

Now, if I could just get her to change her chain occasionally...

--
Dane Buson - sigdane@unixbigots.org
You will never amount to much.
-- Munich Schoolmaster, to Albert Einstein, age 10


  
Date: 07 Mar 2007 06:19:29
From: Mark Hickey
Subject: Re: Islam, the Religion of Dis-Ease
tkeats2005@hotmail.com (Tom Keats) wrote:

> dgk <dgk@somewhere.com> writes:

>> Damn them
>> all to hell. Assuming, that is, that there is a hell.
>
>Oh no, not in a hearbeat! Our job in this world is
>to overcome the things & urges that pull us apart
>and destroy us, and instead find ways to pull us
>together and make humanity one big triumph. That
>means being warm-heartedly accepting of even
>triathletes -- who knows, maybe they'll eventually
>grow into being real cyclists ;-)

OK, as long as the 'bent riders aren't included in this nirvana....

;-)

k Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $795 ti frame


   
Date: 07 Mar 2007 10:06:08
From: Dane Buson
Subject: Re: Islam, the Religion of Dis-Ease
k Hickey <k@habcycles.com > wrote:
> tkeats2005@hotmail.com (Tom Keats) wrote:
>> dgk <dgk@somewhere.com> writes:
>
>>> Damn them all to hell. Assuming, that is, that there is a hell.
>>
>>Oh no, not in a hearbeat! Our job in this world is to overcome the
>>things & urges that pull us apart and destroy us, and instead find
>>ways to pull us together and make humanity one big triumph. That
>>means being warm-heartedly accepting of even triathletes -- who knows,
>>maybe they'll eventually grow into being real cyclists ;-)
>
> OK, as long as the 'bent riders aren't included in this nirvana....

I thought they were allowed in but had to spend time in Purgatory to
expiate their sins. i.e., those who hadn't had the oppurtunity or some
disability preventing them from cycling in the one true way. Much like
the modern Catholic church with people not exposed to the gospels and
the mentally incompetent.

/removes tongue from cheek

--
Dane Buson - sigdane@unixbigots.org
A large number of installed systems work by fiat. That is, they work
by being declared to work.
-- Anatol Holt


    
Date: 07 Mar 2007 10:33:31
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Islam, the Religion of Dis-Ease
Dane Buson wrote:
> k Hickey <k@habcycles.com> wrote:
>> tkeats2005@hotmail.com (Tom Keats) wrote:
>>> dgk <dgk@somewhere.com> writes:
>>
>>>> Damn them all to hell. Assuming, that is, that there is a hell.
>>>
>>> Oh no, not in a hearbeat! Our job in this world is to overcome the
>>> things & urges that pull us apart and destroy us, and instead find
>>> ways to pull us together and make humanity one big triumph. That
>>> means being warm-heartedly accepting of even triathletes -- who
>>> knows, maybe they'll eventually grow into being real cyclists ;-)
>>
>> OK, as long as the 'bent riders aren't included in this nirvana....
>
> I thought they were allowed in but had to spend time in Purgatory to
> expiate their sins. i.e., those who hadn't had the oppurtunity or
> some disability preventing them from cycling in the one true way.
> Much like the modern Catholic church with people not exposed to the
> gospels and the mentally incompetent.

I heard they can buy "clyclic offsets" to keep their karmas clean.

BS, BS




 
Date: 06 Mar 2007 15:35:32
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: Islam, the Religion of Dis-Ease
In article <1173195626.679527.270720@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com >,
"AustinMN" <tacooper260@hotmail.com > writes:
> On 6, 1:14 am, tkeats2...@hotmail.com (Tom Keats) wrote:
>> their own advantages or world views. That happens with
>> almost any religion (although I've not yet heard of any
>> B'hai radicals.) Maybe something similar occurs within
>> bicycle advocacy? Like the ongoing bike-lanes-everywhere/
>> no-bike-lanes-anywhere arguments.
>
> Critical Mass.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^

That's cycling's charismatic sect.


cheers,
Tom

--
Nothing is safe from me.
Above address is just a spam midden.
I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca


 
Date: 06 Mar 2007 07:40:26
From: AustinMN
Subject: Re: Islam, the Religion of Dis-Ease
On 6, 1:14 am, tkeats2...@hotmail.com (Tom Keats) wrote:
> their own advantages or world views. That happens with
> almost any religion (although I've not yet heard of any
> B'hai radicals.) Maybe something similar occurs within
> bicycle advocacy? Like the ongoing bike-lanes-everywhere/
> no-bike-lanes-anywhere arguments.

Critical Mass.

Austin



 
Date: 06 Mar 2007 07:22:59
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Islam, the Religion of Dis-Ease
On 6, 8:00 am, dgk <d...@somewhere.com > wrote:
> On Mon, 5 2007 23:14:57 -0800, tkeats2...@hotmail.com (Tom Keats)
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >In article <M08Hh.1018$Z%4.1...@newsfe06.lga>,
> > "GaryG" <sorrynoem...@NOSPAMX.com> writes:
> >> "Tom Keats" <tkeats2...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:ad1jse.84c.ln@bud.garden.local...
> >>> In article <1173155221.194330.310...@64g2000cwx.googlegroups.com>,
> >>> lovelyd...@hotmail.com writes:
>
> >>> > Haven't you thought about what is the right religion?!
>
> >>> Of course. That's why I ride bikes and encourage
> >>> others to do so as well, if they want to.
>
> >>> Anyways, in certain Islamic countries I understand
> >>> non-Islamic proselytes are proscribed (often quite
> >>> severely.) But here you are, free to spread /your/
> >>> word. Enjoy your freedom. I'll enjoy mine.
>
> >> And, to keep it on topic, in many Muslim countries women and men are not
> >> permitted to ride bicycles wearing ordinary cycling clothing. Women
> >> attempting to ride through villages in Egypt have been stoned and attacked
> >> by men with sticks.
>
> >> Why in the world would anyone choose such a backwards-looking, oppressive
> >> religion?
>
> >I don't think Islam ever was really meant to be regressive
> >or oppressive, and charity (i.e: love of humanity) is one
> >of its most basic tenets.
>
> >The problems occur when radicals [mis]interpret things to
> >their own advantages or world views. That happens with
> >almost any religion (although I've not yet heard of any
> >B'hai radicals.) Maybe something similar occurs within
> >bicycle advocacy? Like the ongoing bike-lanes-everywhere/
> >no-bike-lanes-anywhere arguments.
>
> >cheers,
> > Tom
>
> Come on Tom, actual rationality when it comes to religion? Damn them
> all to hell. Assuming, that is, that there is a hell.


Oooh, lookee here, we got us some sort of hell agnostic. You better
give us the right readings from this phrenology helmet, or you'll have
to be spoked with the squirrels...for Jebus!



 
Date: 06 Mar 2007 05:21:35
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo
Subject: Re: Islam, the Religion of Dis-Ease
On 6, 12:14 am, tkeats2...@hotmail.com (Tom Keats) wrote:
> In article <M08Hh.1018$Z%4.1...@newsfe06.lga>,
> "GaryG" <sorrynoem...@NOSPAMX.com> writes:
>
>
>
> > "Tom Keats" <tkeats2...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:ad1jse.84c.ln@bud.garden.local...
> >> In article <1173155221.194330.310...@64g2000cwx.googlegroups.com>,
> >> lovelyd...@hotmail.com writes:
>
> >> > Haven't you thought about what is the right religion?!
>
> >> Of course. That's why I ride bikes and encourage
> >> others to do so as well, if they want to.
>
> >> Anyways, in certain Islamic countries I understand
> >> non-Islamic proselytes are proscribed (often quite
> >> severely.) But here you are, free to spread /your/
> >> word. Enjoy your freedom. I'll enjoy mine.
>
> > And, to keep it on topic, in many Muslim countries women and men are not
> > permitted to ride bicycles wearing ordinary cycling clothing. Women
> > attempting to ride through villages in Egypt have been stoned and attacked
> > by men with sticks.
>
> > Why in the world would anyone choose such a backwards-looking, oppressive
> > religion?
>
> I don't think Islam ever was really meant to be regressive
> or oppressive, and charity (i.e: love of humanity) is one
> of its most basic tenets.
>
> The problems occur when radicals [mis]interpret things to
> their own advantages or world views. That happens with
> almost any religion (although I've not yet heard of any
> B'hai radicals.) Maybe something similar occurs within
> bicycle advocacy?

'maybe'?.call a bicycle a toy, like an article in velonews.com and see
what happens.

Like the ongoing bike-lanes-everywhere/
> no-bike-lanes-anywhere arguments.
>
> cheers,
> Tom
>
> --
> Nothing is safe from me.
> Above address is just a spam midden.
> I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca




 
Date: 05 Mar 2007 23:14:57
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: Islam, the Religion of Dis-Ease
In article <M08Hh.1018$Z%4.1016@newsfe06.lga >,
"GaryG" <sorrynoemail@NOSPAMX.com > writes:
> "Tom Keats" <tkeats2005@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ad1jse.84c.ln@bud.garden.local...
>> In article <1173155221.194330.310880@64g2000cwx.googlegroups.com>,
>> lovelydiab@hotmail.com writes:
>>
>> > Haven't you thought about what is the right religion?!
>>
>> Of course. That's why I ride bikes and encourage
>> others to do so as well, if they want to.
>>
>> Anyways, in certain Islamic countries I understand
>> non-Islamic proselytes are proscribed (often quite
>> severely.) But here you are, free to spread /your/
>> word. Enjoy your freedom. I'll enjoy mine.
>
> And, to keep it on topic, in many Muslim countries women and men are not
> permitted to ride bicycles wearing ordinary cycling clothing. Women
> attempting to ride through villages in Egypt have been stoned and attacked
> by men with sticks.
>
> Why in the world would anyone choose such a backwards-looking, oppressive
> religion?

I don't think Islam ever was really meant to be regressive
or oppressive, and charity (i.e: love of humanity) is one
of its most basic tenets.

The problems occur when radicals [mis]interpret things to
their own advantages or world views. That happens with
almost any religion (although I've not yet heard of any
B'hai radicals.) Maybe something similar occurs within
bicycle advocacy? Like the ongoing bike-lanes-everywhere/
no-bike-lanes-anywhere arguments.


cheers,
Tom

--
Nothing is safe from me.
Above address is just a spam midden.
I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca


  
Date: 06 Mar 2007 09:00:09
From: dgk
Subject: Re: Islam, the Religion of Dis-Ease
On Mon, 5 2007 23:14:57 -0800, tkeats2005@hotmail.com (Tom Keats)
wrote:

>In article <M08Hh.1018$Z%4.1016@newsfe06.lga>,
> "GaryG" <sorrynoemail@NOSPAMX.com> writes:
>> "Tom Keats" <tkeats2005@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:ad1jse.84c.ln@bud.garden.local...
>>> In article <1173155221.194330.310880@64g2000cwx.googlegroups.com>,
>>> lovelydiab@hotmail.com writes:
>>>
>>> > Haven't you thought about what is the right religion?!
>>>
>>> Of course. That's why I ride bikes and encourage
>>> others to do so as well, if they want to.
>>>
>>> Anyways, in certain Islamic countries I understand
>>> non-Islamic proselytes are proscribed (often quite
>>> severely.) But here you are, free to spread /your/
>>> word. Enjoy your freedom. I'll enjoy mine.
>>
>> And, to keep it on topic, in many Muslim countries women and men are not
>> permitted to ride bicycles wearing ordinary cycling clothing. Women
>> attempting to ride through villages in Egypt have been stoned and attacked
>> by men with sticks.
>>
>> Why in the world would anyone choose such a backwards-looking, oppressive
>> religion?
>
>I don't think Islam ever was really meant to be regressive
>or oppressive, and charity (i.e: love of humanity) is one
>of its most basic tenets.
>
>The problems occur when radicals [mis]interpret things to
>their own advantages or world views. That happens with
>almost any religion (although I've not yet heard of any
>B'hai radicals.) Maybe something similar occurs within
>bicycle advocacy? Like the ongoing bike-lanes-everywhere/
>no-bike-lanes-anywhere arguments.
>
>
>cheers,
> Tom

Come on Tom, actual rationality when it comes to religion? Damn them
all to hell. Assuming, that is, that there is a hell.



 
Date: 05 Mar 2007 22:23:38
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: Islam, the Religion of Ease
In article <1173155221.194330.310880@64g2000cwx.googlegroups.com >,
lovelydiab@hotmail.com writes:

> Haven't you thought about what is the right religion?!

Of course. That's why I ride bikes and encourage
others to do so as well, if they want to.

Anyways, in certain Islamic countries I understand
non-Islamic proselytes are proscribed (often quite
severely.) But here you are, free to spread /your/
word. Enjoy your freedom. I'll enjoy mine.


--
Nothing is safe from me.
Above address is just a spam midden.
I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca


  
Date: 05 Mar 2007 22:44:55
From: GaryG
Subject: Re: Islam, the Religion of Dis-Ease
"Tom Keats" <tkeats2005@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:ad1jse.84c.ln@bud.garden.local...
> In article <1173155221.194330.310880@64g2000cwx.googlegroups.com>,
> lovelydiab@hotmail.com writes:
>
> > Haven't you thought about what is the right religion?!
>
> Of course. That's why I ride bikes and encourage
> others to do so as well, if they want to.
>
> Anyways, in certain Islamic countries I understand
> non-Islamic proselytes are proscribed (often quite
> severely.) But here you are, free to spread /your/
> word. Enjoy your freedom. I'll enjoy mine.

And, to keep it on topic, in many Muslim countries women and men are not
permitted to ride bicycles wearing ordinary cycling clothing. Women
attempting to ride through villages in Egypt have been stoned and attacked
by men with sticks.

Why in the world would anyone choose such a backwards-looking, oppressive
religion?

For a different take on the supposedly "peaceful" Muslim religion, check out
the book that's currently #9 on Amazon. It's called "Infidel", and was
written by a rekable woman who escaped her Muslim upbringing in Somalia,
became a member of the Dutch Parliament, and is now living in the United
States thanks to death threats from those "peaceful" European Muslims.

http://tinyurl.com/2gn54m

GG

>
>
> --
> Nothing is safe from me.
> Above address is just a spam midden.
> I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca




 
Date: 06 Mar 2007 04:51:58
From: Bill Baka
Subject: Re: Islam, the Religion of Ease
lovelydiab@hotmail.com wrote:
> Excuse me!!
> Would you stop for a moment?!
> O...man...Haven't you thought-one day- about yourself ?
> Who has made it?
> Have you seen a design which hasn't a designer ?!
> Have you seen a wonderful,delicate work without a worker ?!
> It's you and the whole universe!..
> Who has made them all ?!!
> You know who ?.. It's "ALLAH",prise be to him.
> Just think for a moment.
> How are you going to be after death ?!
> Can you believe that this exact system of the universe and all of
> these great creation will end in in nothing...just after death!
> Have you thought, for a second, How to save your soul from Allah's
> punishment?!
> Haven't you thought about what is the right religion?!
> Read ... and think deeply before you answer..
> It is religion of Islam.
> It is the religion that Mohammad-peace upon him- the last prophet, had
> been sent by.
> It is the religion that the right Bible- which is not distorted-has
> preached.
> Just have a look at The Bible of (Bernaba).
> Don't be emstional.
> Be rational and judge..
> Just look..listen...compare..and then judge and say your word.
> We advise you visiting :
> http://www.islam-guide.com
> http://www.thetruereligion.org
> http://www.beconvinced.com
> http://www.plaintruth.org
> http://english.islamway.com
> http://www.todayislam.com
> http://www.prophetmuhammed.org
> http://www.islamtoday.net/english/
> http://www.islamunveiled.org
> http://www.islamic-knowledge.com
>
Screw you.
BEHEAD ALL MUSLIMS AND ISLAMS!