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Date: 13 Nov 2006 20:26:31
From: jk
Subject: Mouse kills Cyclist ?
Here story from Massachusetts that is so exceptionally unusual that
I'm posting it despite the possibility that it will restart the damn
helmet debate.
---------------------------------
WWLP-TV
Nov. 13
BUCKLAND, MASSACHUSETTS (WWLP) A Florence man is dead after suffering
severe injuries when he crashed his bicycle on a rural road, but it's
what caused the crashed that is puzzling police. 43-year-old Ronald
Koester was found lying on the side of the road Thursday afternoon by
an off duty police officer. And next to the man, was a dead mouse.
This all happened at the intersection of Avery and Charlemont Roads in
Buckland. The man was found 40 feet from the intersection by an off
duty Shelburne Falls officer around noon. First Assistant District
Attorney Elizabeth Dunphy Farris told 22News, the mouse was found
freshly deceased in close proximity to the bicycle. The man's death
has been ruled accidental by the medical examiner. Koester apparently
went over his handlebars, hitting his head on the ground and smashing
his helmet. There has been speculation that Koester was attempting to
avoid hitting the mouse, causing him to lose control, although that
has not been the confirmed cause. There were no skid ks found at
the scene, and there is no sign of foul play.

Written by 22News Reporter
Anthony DiLorenzo
------------------------------------




 
Date: 19 Nov 2006 13:38:18
From: McZ19
Subject: Re: Mouse kills Cyclist ?

I was visiting up in that area this weekend and learned that the
deceased cyclist was the person who recently purchased VOMax, the
cycling/X-country skiing clothing manufacturer based in Plainfield, MA.

MCZ19



 
Date: 18 Nov 2006 12:50:34
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: Mouse kills Cyclist ?
In article <otnrl2d7nfkfrjnj5k4t7t751i5fvg8iu3@4ax.com >,
jk <kend99@hotmail.com > writes:
> On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 01:46:49 -0800, tkeats2005@hotmail.com (Tom Keats)
> wrote:
>
>>Snip
>>But, suppose there wasn't a dead mouse at the scene --
>>just a mysteriously dead cyclist and a bike lying down on
>>the roadside or in the ditch. What's funny about that?
>>
>>
>>cheers,
>> Tom
> When & Where did I describe it as funny.

When & where did I say /you/ described it as funny?

> My only comment about the
> story was that it was unusual - which it is.

And I'm just saying the dead rodent has apparently
served well as a distraction to the general public
from giving this case further (serious) consideration.


cheers,
Tom

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Date: 17 Nov 2006 08:47:30
From: Buck
Subject: Re: Mouse kills Cyclist ?
nash wrote:
> I wonder where they get the statistics that 99% of cycle accidents are
> caused by the cyclist. Bo hinky
>
> These investigators are obviously not biker friendly.


I wonder where you get the statistic that you quoted. I've never seen a
statement that 99% of cycle accidents are caused by the cyclist.

Citation, please.

-Buck



  
Date: 17 Nov 2006 17:53:41
From: nash
Subject: Re: Mouse kills Cyclist ?

"Buck" <bicyclebuck@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1163782050.139978.128220@h54g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> nash wrote:
>> I wonder where they get the statistics that 99% of cycle accidents are
>> caused by the cyclist. Bo hinky
>>
>> These investigators are obviously not biker friendly.
>
>
> I wonder where you get the statistic that you quoted. I've never seen a
> statement that 99% of cycle accidents are caused by the cyclist.
>
> Citation, please.
>
> -Buck

I am quoting from a radio show about 4 years back in BC
also government biased articles which I do not have anymore.
Google it I guess. Attitudes have not changed. I do not agree with it if
that is what you are wondering and it is from memory but trust me it was
nothing like from my real experience because everyday I have to save myself
from being creamed by all baby fed drivers on the road.








 
Date: 16 Nov 2006 21:43:55
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: Mouse kills Cyclist ?
In article <1163685808.387675.253860@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com >,
"Buck" <bicyclebuck@gmail.com > writes:

> What has this mouse to do with the death of this cyclist?

I'm more interested in what /really/ has to do with the death
of this cyclist. Maybe the convenient mouse had something to
do with it. Or maybe there are other factors.


cheers,
Tom

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Date: 17 Nov 2006 16:07:28
From: nash
Subject: Re: Mouse kills Cyclist ?
I wonder where they get the statistics that 99% of cycle accidents are
caused by the cyclist. Bo hinky

These investigators are obviously not biker friendly.




 
Date: 16 Nov 2006 21:31:42
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: Mouse kills Cyclist ?
In article <0k27h.328799$R63.29510@pd7urf1no >,
"nash" <zwepytzkehillc9@jetable.net > writes:

> Why would avoiding hitting a mouse make you deceased. Far stretch if you
> think about it.

That's pretty much my thinking too.

I'm not criticising the OP, nor the people who found the
mouse thing funny. But looking beyond the foreground of
the picture, we've got a mysteriously dead cyclist found
on the roadside -- apparently, from the jist of the article,
shrugged-off as "accidental" just because there was also a
dead mouse and no skid ks found there.

Is that good enough investigation? That the authorities are
already giving their speculations to the public, indicates
to me that official investigations have already been done,
and the book closed.

Like I said, there's a perception that "accidents" involving
cyclists tend to get glossed-over.


cheers,
Tom

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Date: 16 Nov 2006 06:03:28
From: Buck
Subject: Re: Mouse kills Cyclist ?
Tom Keats wrote:
> I wonder just how much consideration this case received.
> There is a sense among many cyclists that accident investigations
> involving cyclists tend to get glossed-over. Rider sees mouse,
> hits the binders, goes over the handlebar, smashes his head open.
> End of story?
>
> If he had been travelling fast enough to go over the handlebar,
> I bet he wouldn't even have seen the mouse.

In all my years of cycling, I've seen in the road (alive) horses, cows,
deer, various birds (usually eating dead animals), a few snakes,
countless rabbits (and once an owl catching a rabbit), numerous
squirrels (often in the state of kamikaze), a number of turtles, a frog
or two, a swarm of tarantulas (thankful I was in a car that time),
countless dogs, and even an ostrich. The dead animals I've seen include
most of the above (not the ostrich) plus raccoons, armadillos, and
opposums. I'm sure there is more that I've seen but have forgotten.

Never have I seen a mouse.

Does this mean they aren't out there? No. I suppose that they are too
small, too st, or perhaps I am always moving too fast to notice
them.

What has this mouse to do with the death of this cyclist? I look
forward to, as Paul Harvey says, the rest of the story....

-Buck



 
Date: 16 Nov 2006 01:46:49
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: Mouse kills Cyclist ?
In article <ik4nl2hruuhuppkqj0oa7bjkars4autgao@4ax.com >,
jk <kend99@hotmail.com > writes:
> On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:24:51 -0800, tkeats2005@hotmail.com (Tom Keats)
> wrote:
>
> Snip
>
>>I wonder if there's any speculation that he was the victim
>>of a hit-&-run, or was simply run off the road, resulting
>>in his fatal crash?
>
> The news story from my original post clearly stated "The man's death
> has been ruled accidental by the medical examiner.". I would
> seriously doubt that the medical examiner ruled it accidental if there
> was any speculation about a hit and run.
>
>>WTF does a dead mouse have to do with price of aish in Egypt?
>>A fellow cyclist's life has been preempted. No doubt he has
>>family and friends mourning the loss of him.
>>
>>
>>Tom
> I posted the story as reported, unedited and without comment in
> regards to the story's context. But in answer to your "WTF does a
> dead mouse have to do with .." The story said "There has been
> speculation that Koester was attempting to avoid hitting the mouse,
> causing him to lose controI ". This speculation was attributed to the
> police and First Assistant District Attorney Elizabeth Dunphy Farris.

I wonder just how much consideration this case received.
There is a sense among many cyclists that accident investigations
involving cyclists tend to get glossed-over. Rider sees mouse,
hits the binders, goes over the handlebar, smashes his head open.
End of story?

If he had been travelling fast enough to go over the handlebar,
I bet he wouldn't even have seen the mouse.

> He may have had many friends and family and I am sure he will be
> mourned, but what "WTF" does that have to do with me posting a
> publicly distributed news story.

Nothing.

But it seems this report is morbidly amusing to some folks.
Well, death is part of life, I suppose. And cracking jokes
about it can take the edge off, especially when thinking in
terms of one's own mortality.

But, suppose there wasn't a dead mouse at the scene --
just a mysteriously dead cyclist and a bike lying down on
the roadside or in the ditch. What's funny about that?


cheers,
Tom

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Date: 17 Nov 2006 11:16:47
From: jk
Subject: Re: Mouse kills Cyclist ?
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 01:46:49 -0800, tkeats2005@hotmail.com (Tom Keats)
wrote:

>Snip
>But, suppose there wasn't a dead mouse at the scene --
>just a mysteriously dead cyclist and a bike lying down on
>the roadside or in the ditch. What's funny about that?
>
>
>cheers,
> Tom
When & Where did I describe it as funny. My only comment about the
story was that it was unusual - which it is. Stop preaching to the
choir.


 
Date: 15 Nov 2006 20:36:09
From: Mike A Schwab
Subject: Re: Mouse kills Cyclist ?

"The man's death has been ruled accidental by the medical examiner.
Koester apparently went over his handlebars, hitting his head on the
ground and smashing his helmet."

I think he saw the dead mouse (road kill), braked hard, flipped over
his handlebars, landed on his helmet so hard he destroyed the helmet
and suffered fatal head injuries. If they said the mouse was crushed
then he might have landed on it. If he had road rash or other injuries
from a non-flat object, that could be a hit and run.



 
Date: 15 Nov 2006 10:24:51
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: Mouse kills Cyclist ?
In article <3q6il2dukn7j7i1vqcsl8nklpe0o89vbuk@4ax.com >,
jk <kend99@hotmail.com > writes:
> Here story from Massachusetts that is so exceptionally unusual that
> I'm posting it despite the possibility that it will restart the damn
> helmet debate.
> ---------------------------------
> WWLP-TV
> Nov. 13
> BUCKLAND, MASSACHUSETTS (WWLP) A Florence man is dead after suffering
> severe injuries when he crashed his bicycle on a rural road, but it's
> what caused the crashed that is puzzling police. 43-year-old Ronald
> Koester was found lying on the side of the road Thursday afternoon by
> an off duty police officer. And next to the man, was a dead mouse.

[snip]

> There has been speculation that Koester was attempting to
> avoid hitting the mouse, causing him to lose control, although that
> has not been the confirmed cause.

I wonder if there's any speculation that he was the victim
of a hit-&-run, or was simply run off the road, resulting
in his fatal crash? Maybe his airborne body coincidentally
landed on the mouse.

WTF does a dead mouse have to do with price of aish in Egypt?
A fellow cyclist's life has been preempted. No doubt he has
family and friends mourning the loss of him.


Tom

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Date: 15 Nov 2006 17:54:27
From: jk
Subject: Re: Mouse kills Cyclist ?
On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:24:51 -0800, tkeats2005@hotmail.com (Tom Keats)
wrote:

Snip

>I wonder if there's any speculation that he was the victim
>of a hit-&-run, or was simply run off the road, resulting
>in his fatal crash?

The news story from my original post clearly stated "The man's death
has been ruled accidental by the medical examiner.". I would
seriously doubt that the medical examiner ruled it accidental if there
was any speculation about a hit and run.

>WTF does a dead mouse have to do with price of aish in Egypt?
>A fellow cyclist's life has been preempted. No doubt he has
>family and friends mourning the loss of him.
>
>
>Tom
I posted the story as reported, unedited and without comment in
regards to the story's context. But in answer to your "WTF does a
dead mouse have to do with .." The story said "There has been
speculation that Koester was attempting to avoid hitting the mouse,
causing him to lose controI ". This speculation was attributed to the
police and First Assistant District Attorney Elizabeth Dunphy Farris.

He may have had many friends and family and I am sure he will be
mourned, but what "WTF" does that have to do with me posting a
publicly distributed news story.


   
Date: 16 Nov 2006 18:44:12
From: nash
Subject: Re: Mouse kills Cyclist ?
Why would avoiding hitting a mouse make you deceased. Far stretch if you
think about it.




   
Date: 15 Nov 2006 23:09:58
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Mouse kills Cyclist ?
jk wrote:
>> Tom
> I posted the story as reported, unedited and without comment in
> regards to the story's context. But in answer to your "WTF does a
> dead mouse have to do with .." The story said "There has been
> speculation that Koester was attempting to avoid hitting the mouse,
> causing him to lose controI ". This speculation was attributed to the
> police and First Assistant District Attorney Elizabeth Dunphy Farris.
>
> He may have had many friends and family and I am sure he will be
> mourned, but what "WTF" does that have to do with me posting a
> publicly distributed news story.

I think the question should be, was it just a random dead mouse or one
with a bicycle tire squish down the middle. Hitting a mouse with the
front brake on might like sliding on a banana peel if the mouse was
suitably squished. A statement like a dead mouse was nearby means
totally nothing.
Bill Baka


    
Date: 15 Nov 2006 18:25:11
From: jk
Subject: Re: Mouse kills Cyclist ?
On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 23:09:58 GMT, Bill <bbaka@comcast.net > wrote:

>jk wrote:
>>> Tom
>> I posted the story as reported, unedited and without comment in
>> regards to the story's context. But in answer to your "WTF does a
>> dead mouse have to do with .." The story said "There has been
>> speculation that Koester was attempting to avoid hitting the mouse,
>> causing him to lose controI ". This speculation was attributed to the
>> police and First Assistant District Attorney Elizabeth Dunphy Farris.
>>
>> He may have had many friends and family and I am sure he will be
>> mourned, but what "WTF" does that have to do with me posting a
>> publicly distributed news story.
>
>I think the question should be, was it just a random dead mouse or one
>with a bicycle tire squish down the middle. Hitting a mouse with the
>front brake on might like sliding on a banana peel if the mouse was
>suitably squished. A statement like a dead mouse was nearby means
>totally nothing.
>Bill Baka

I'm willing to give the police and DA enough credit to believe that
they wouldn't link the mouse to the crash without having a reason
other then finding a dead mouse in the vicinity. The story, however,
doesn't elaborate and anything posted here without the authorities
releasing additional information is meaningless speculation..


 
Date: 14 Nov 2006 13:10:54
From: Stephen Harding
Subject: Re: Mouse kills Cyclist ?
jk wrote:
> Here story from Massachusetts that is so exceptionally unusual that
> I'm posting it despite the possibility that it will restart the damn
> helmet debate.

They don't actually know whether the "mouse killed the cyclist"
or not. Pure speculation.

They found the "freshly killed" mouse near the cyclist and speculated
that perhaps it threw him or he lost control trying to avoid it.

Possible, but who knows.

He was apparently a very experience cyclist, lived right here in
my fair town of Florence (Northampton) MA. I'm not familiar with
the name but he was quite active in local bicycling groups.

Seems a motorcycle style helmet might have been a safer choice
for head protection in this case.


SMH


  
Date: 14 Nov 2006 17:08:31
From: nash
Subject: Re: Mouse kills Cyclist ?
let's see.
If you watch CSI you might thing it was a frame up by the No-helmut
zealots. Especially, since he was so well known in that regard. Rather an
humiliating way to go. Your community is at a great loss. Sorry.




   
Date: 14 Nov 2006 17:32:56
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Mouse kills Cyclist ?
nash wrote:
> let's see.
> If you watch CSI you might thing it was a frame up by the No-helmut
> zealots. Especially, since he was so well known in that regard. Rather an
> humiliating way to go. Your community is at a great loss. Sorry.
>
>
They didn't say if the mouse was squished from being run over so what
was the cause of death of the mouse? Tire or foul play?
Calling Sherlock.
Bill Baka


    
Date: 15 Nov 2006 13:27:54
From: Stephen Harding
Subject: Re: Mouse kills Cyclist ?
Bill wrote:

> They didn't say if the mouse was squished from being run over so what
> was the cause of death of the mouse? Tire or foul play?
> Calling Sherlock.

Local paper reported it simply as "a freshly killed mouse lying
near by".

Freshly killed by a bicycle or a cat?

No autopsy report yet on the mouse.


SMH


    
Date: 15 Nov 2006 16:56:06
From: Fred
Subject: Re: Mouse kills Cyclist ?

"Bill" <bbaka@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:c5n6h.5700$IR4.3433@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
> nash wrote:
>> let's see.
>> If you watch CSI you might thing it was a frame up by the No-helmut
>> zealots. Especially, since he was so well known in that regard. Rather
>> an humiliating way to go. Your community is at a great loss. Sorry.
> They didn't say if the mouse was squished from being run over so what was
> the cause of death of the mouse? Tire or foul play?

Neither did they say if the mouse was wearing a helmet. Does this mean the
poor thing will appear as an 'unhelmeted bicycle fatality' on some
statistical list?




 
Date: 14 Nov 2006 14:22:10
From: Michael Warner
Subject: Re: Mouse kills Cyclist ?
On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:26:31 -0500, jk wrote:

> BUCKLAND, MASSACHUSETTS (WWLP) A Florence man is dead after suffering
> severe injuries when he crashed his bicycle on a rural road, but it's
> what caused the crashed that is puzzling police. 43-year-old Ronald
> Koester was found lying on the side of the road Thursday afternoon by
> an off duty police officer. And next to the man, was a dead mouse.

The mouse is probably a message from the murderer. We just don't know
what it means yet.

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Date: 14 Nov 2006 00:34:52
From: Mike A Schwab
Subject: Re: Mouse kills Cyclist ?
http://www.wwlp.com/news2004/story.html?artID=413854 is the link, video
available on the page.

jk wrote:
> Here story from Massachusetts that is so exceptionally unusual that
> I'm posting it despite the possibility that it will restart the damn
> helmet debate.
> ---------------------------------
> WWLP-TV
> Nov. 13
> BUCKLAND, MASSACHUSETTS (WWLP) A Florence man is dead after suffering
> severe injuries when he crashed his bicycle on a rural road, but it's
> what caused the crashed that is puzzling police. 43-year-old Ronald
> Koester was found lying on the side of the road Thursday afternoon by
> an off duty police officer. And next to the man, was a dead mouse.
> This all happened at the intersection of Avery and Charlemont Roads in
> Buckland. The man was found 40 feet from the intersection by an off
> duty Shelburne Falls officer around noon. First Assistant District
> Attorney Elizabeth Dunphy Farris told 22News, the mouse was found
> freshly deceased in close proximity to the bicycle. The man's death
> has been ruled accidental by the medical examiner. Koester apparently
> went over his handlebars, hitting his head on the ground and smashing
> his helmet. There has been speculation that Koester was attempting to
> avoid hitting the mouse, causing him to lose control, although that
> has not been the confirmed cause. There were no skid ks found at
> the scene, and there is no sign of foul play.
>
> Written by 22News Reporter
> Anthony DiLorenzo
> ------------------------------------



 
Date: 14 Nov 2006 02:52:54
From: Mike Kruger
Subject: Re: Mouse kills Cyclist ?
"jk" <kend99@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:3q6il2dukn7j7i1vqcsl8nklpe0o89vbuk@4ax.com...

> ... and there is no sign of foul play.

[insert chicken joke here]




  
Date: 14 Nov 2006 03:57:38
From: Werehatrack
Subject: Re: Mouse kills Cyclist ?
On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 02:52:54 GMT, "Mike Kruger"
<MikeKr@mouse-potato.com > wrote:

>"jk" <kend99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:3q6il2dukn7j7i1vqcsl8nklpe0o89vbuk@4ax.com...
>
>> ... and there is no sign of foul play.
>
>[insert chicken joke here]

I would, but only if the subject was less grave.
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Date: 14 Nov 2006 02:12:09
From: dgk
Subject: Re: Mouse kills Cyclist ?
On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:26:31 -0500, jk <kend99@hotmail.com > wrote:

>Here story from Massachusetts that is so exceptionally unusual that
>I'm posting it despite the possibility that it will restart the damn
>helmet debate.
>---------------------------------
>WWLP-TV
>Nov. 13
>BUCKLAND, MASSACHUSETTS (WWLP) A Florence man is dead after suffering
>severe injuries when he crashed his bicycle on a rural road, but it's
>what caused the crashed that is puzzling police. 43-year-old Ronald
>Koester was found lying on the side of the road Thursday afternoon by
>an off duty police officer. And next to the man, was a dead mouse.
>This all happened at the intersection of Avery and Charlemont Roads in
>Buckland. The man was found 40 feet from the intersection by an off
>duty Shelburne Falls officer around noon. First Assistant District
>Attorney Elizabeth Dunphy Farris told 22News, the mouse was found
>freshly deceased in close proximity to the bicycle. The man's death
>has been ruled accidental by the medical examiner. Koester apparently
>went over his handlebars, hitting his head on the ground and smashing
>his helmet. There has been speculation that Koester was attempting to
>avoid hitting the mouse, causing him to lose control, although that
>has not been the confirmed cause. There were no skid ks found at
>the scene, and there is no sign of foul play.
>
>Written by 22News Reporter
>Anthony DiLorenzo
>------------------------------------

Well, no description of the cause of death of the mouse. Perhaps the
mouse saw the bike coming and died of a heart attack. I suppose Mr.
Koester might have hit the mouse and skidded, but then they probably
would have mentioned the state of the mouse, which couldn't have been
good.

Mice are sort of related to squirrels, both being of rodent
persuasion. Perhaps they've learned about the killer squirrels and are
emulating their larger cousins?

Perhaps it was a pet mouse, traveling in Mr. Koester's pocket, who
fell out during the accident and, not having a helmet, had no chance
to survive the fall (oh, what I just did).




  
Date: 14 Nov 2006 15:30:49
From: Fred
Subject: Re: Mouse kills Cyclist ?

"dgk" <NoWhere@MailsAnonymous.com > wrote in message
news:es8il21fpsjvluo46ecg21ls18unvdqbmg@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:26:31 -0500, jk <kend99@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Here story from Massachusetts that is so exceptionally unusual that
>>I'm posting it despite the possibility that it will restart the damn
>>helmet debate.
>>---------------------------------
>>WWLP-TV
>>Nov. 13
>>BUCKLAND, MASSACHUSETTS (WWLP) A Florence man is dead after suffering
>>severe injuries when he crashed his bicycle on a rural road, but it's
>>what caused the crashed that is puzzling police. 43-year-old Ronald
>>Koester was found lying on the side of the road Thursday afternoon by
>>an off duty police officer. And next to the man, was a dead mouse.
>>This all happened at the intersection of Avery and Charlemont Roads in
>>Buckland. The man was found 40 feet from the intersection by an off
>>duty Shelburne Falls officer around noon. First Assistant District
>>Attorney Elizabeth Dunphy Farris told 22News, the mouse was found
>>freshly deceased in close proximity to the bicycle. The man's death
>>has been ruled accidental by the medical examiner. Koester apparently
>>went over his handlebars, hitting his head on the ground and smashing
>>his helmet. There has been speculation that Koester was attempting to
>>avoid hitting the mouse, causing him to lose control, although that
>>has not been the confirmed cause. There were no skid ks found at
>>the scene, and there is no sign of foul play.
>>
>>Written by 22News Reporter
>>Anthony DiLorenzo
>>------------------------------------
>
> Well, no description of the cause of death of the mouse. Perhaps the
> mouse saw the bike coming and died of a heart attack. I suppose Mr.
> Koester might have hit the mouse and skidded, but then they probably
> would have mentioned the state of the mouse, which couldn't have been
> good.
>
> Mice are sort of related to squirrels, both being of rodent
> persuasion. Perhaps they've learned about the killer squirrels and are
> emulating their larger cousins?
>
> Perhaps it was a pet mouse, traveling in Mr. Koester's pocket, who
> fell out during the accident and, not having a helmet, had no chance
> to survive the fall (oh, what I just did).

I don't know about the helmet, but a mouse guard might have helped.
>
>




   
Date: 14 Nov 2006 02:35:19
From: dgk
Subject: Re: Mouse kills Cyclist ?
On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:30:49 +1300, "Fred" <general@zaradise.net.uk >
wrote:

>
>"dgk" <NoWhere@MailsAnonymous.com> wrote in message
>news:es8il21fpsjvluo46ecg21ls18unvdqbmg@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:26:31 -0500, jk <kend99@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Here story from Massachusetts that is so exceptionally unusual that
>>>I'm posting it despite the possibility that it will restart the damn
>>>helmet debate.
>>>---------------------------------
>>>WWLP-TV
>>>Nov. 13
>>>BUCKLAND, MASSACHUSETTS (WWLP) A Florence man is dead after suffering
>>>severe injuries when he crashed his bicycle on a rural road, but it's
>>>what caused the crashed that is puzzling police. 43-year-old Ronald
>>>Koester was found lying on the side of the road Thursday afternoon by
>>>an off duty police officer. And next to the man, was a dead mouse.
>>>This all happened at the intersection of Avery and Charlemont Roads in
>>>Buckland. The man was found 40 feet from the intersection by an off
>>>duty Shelburne Falls officer around noon. First Assistant District
>>>Attorney Elizabeth Dunphy Farris told 22News, the mouse was found
>>>freshly deceased in close proximity to the bicycle. The man's death
>>>has been ruled accidental by the medical examiner. Koester apparently
>>>went over his handlebars, hitting his head on the ground and smashing
>>>his helmet. There has been speculation that Koester was attempting to
>>>avoid hitting the mouse, causing him to lose control, although that
>>>has not been the confirmed cause. There were no skid ks found at
>>>the scene, and there is no sign of foul play.
>>>
>>>Written by 22News Reporter
>>>Anthony DiLorenzo
>>>------------------------------------
>>
>> Well, no description of the cause of death of the mouse. Perhaps the
>> mouse saw the bike coming and died of a heart attack. I suppose Mr.
>> Koester might have hit the mouse and skidded, but then they probably
>> would have mentioned the state of the mouse, which couldn't have been
>> good.
>>
>> Mice are sort of related to squirrels, both being of rodent
>> persuasion. Perhaps they've learned about the killer squirrels and are
>> emulating their larger cousins?
>>
>> Perhaps it was a pet mouse, traveling in Mr. Koester's pocket, who
>> fell out during the accident and, not having a helmet, had no chance
>> to survive the fall (oh, what I just did).
>
>I don't know about the helmet, but a mouse guard might have helped.
>
I knew bad puns were coming. It's too good a target. Just move the
mouse over the bicycle and click.




 
Date: 14 Nov 2006 02:03:58
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Mouse kills Cyclist ?
jk wrote:
> Here story from Massachusetts that is so exceptionally unusual that
> I'm posting it despite the possibility that it will restart the damn
> helmet debate.
> ---------------------------------
> WWLP-TV
> Nov. 13
> BUCKLAND, MASSACHUSETTS (WWLP) A Florence man is dead after suffering
> severe injuries when he crashed his bicycle on a rural road, but it's
> what caused the crashed that is puzzling police. 43-year-old Ronald
> Koester was found lying on the side of the road Thursday afternoon by
> an off duty police officer. And next to the man, was a dead mouse.
> This all happened at the intersection of Avery and Charlemont Roads in
> Buckland. The man was found 40 feet from the intersection by an off
> duty Shelburne Falls officer around noon. First Assistant District
> Attorney Elizabeth Dunphy Farris told 22News, the mouse was found
> freshly deceased in close proximity to the bicycle. The man's death
> has been ruled accidental by the medical examiner. Koester apparently
> went over his handlebars, hitting his head on the ground and smashing
> his helmet. There has been speculation that Koester was attempting to
> avoid hitting the mouse, causing him to lose control, although that
> has not been the confirmed cause. There were no skid ks found at
> the scene, and there is no sign of foul play.
>
> Written by 22News Reporter
> Anthony DiLorenzo
> ------------------------------------
That is just too weird in so many ways.
Bill Baka