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Date: 09 Sep 2006 11:05:29
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Subject: My new bike
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Hi All,
For anyone interested, here are some pics of my new bike:
http://arbitrary.org/track1.jpg
http://arbitrary.org/track2.jpg
Spec:
Windsor "The Hour" economy track bike
Selle Italia FLX Gel Flow Eleganza (500 grams of pure comfort!)
Profile Designs 47cm wide stoker bar
Cane Creek 200TT brake lever
Campagnolo Chorus brake (I wish it were a cheaper black Xenon or
Mirage, but I had the Chorus lying around)
Michelin Pro Race 700x25 tires and tubes
18T Surley cog
Tacx Tao bottle cage
This bike is to be my fun/commuter bike. I am recovering from illness,
so I haven't actually commuted with it yet, but I have taken it for a
few short spins, and it seems like it will be quite suited to the task.
The super-wide bull-horn stoker bar is great for wide shoulders and big
hands.
Joseph
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Date: 11 Sep 2006 00:34:43
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Subject: Re: My new bike
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Ravi wrote:
> joseph.santaniello@gmail.com wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > For anyone interested, here are some pics of my new bike:
> >
> > http://arbitrary.org/track1.jpg
> > http://arbitrary.org/track2.jpg
>
> awesome bike !!
>
> > Profile Designs 47cm wide stoker bar
>
> 47cm is really wide :)
>
> > 18T Surley cog
>
> 48x18 is about 70" gear. I run little lower gear - 39x15 = 68". it is a
> lot of fun going up not-so-steep hills and even more fun is going
> downhills. Sometimes when i ride with my friends, i would ask for a
> rest-break at the bottom of the hill rather than on the top of the hill ;)
>
> > This bike is to be my fun/commuter bike. I am recovering from illness,
>
> just be careful of stupid thefts when locking up... it is so nice that
> it will catch the wrong eyes...
I own a lock, but I don't even know where it is. My bikes live in my
garage, and this one will get to rest in the back room at work when I
commute. I suppose I should dig out the lock in case I decide to ride
somewhere fro lunch or something...
> > The super-wide bull-horn stoker bar is great for wide shoulders and big
> > hands.
>
> some folks with large have double wrapped their handlebars - may be you
> can consider if it helps...
>
> enjoy your new ride, definitely it will cure all illness :) get well soon...
Thanks!
Joseph
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Date: 11 Sep 2006 00:31:22
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Subject: Re: My new bike
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Ravi wrote:
> did you lace up the wheels yourself ? I am guessing it 32-spoke wheels.
> any reason for going 32 as against 36 ? What kind of hubs do you have on
> them ??
The wheels came with the bike. When this bike dies or I get bored of it
and decide to build my own, I'll go with 36 probably.
> i have found that it not always possible to go off-saddle when dodging
> potholes - especially during fast runs or downhills. i have found it
> almost impossible to spin fast off the saddle - more because i am afraid.
I haven't tried anything crazy yet, but in the old days when I rode a
track bike around I would do anything. The key to standing is making
sure the crotch of your pants doesn't get stuck on the seat when you
sit again. That can be bad. I didn't have a brake in the old days, but
I do now. But I still haven't used it!
> also, have you weighed your bike yet ??
Not yet!
Joseph
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Date: 11 Sep 2006 00:27:05
From:
Subject: Re: My new bike
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Paul Hobson wrote:
> >> joseph.santaniello@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> Part of the reason I got the bike was to help myself develop spin. I'm
> >>> sort of a masher and I would like to wean myself of that habit a bit
> >>> while my knees are still good. Not that I think they are going south,
> >>> but it would be a pisser to find out too late, right?
>
> > Paul Hobson wrote:
> >> I had knee issues from growing too fast between 13 - 16. That's always
> >> in the back of my head too.
>
> joseph.santaniello@gmail.com wrote:
> > I had knee problems at that age too, but they receeded with time, to
> > the point where I don't consider it an issue anymore. How old are you?
>
> I'm just shy of 24 now. 99% sure that my knees are perfectly fine now.
> Right one can feel funny at times, but it's no big deal/in my head.
> When I was 13, my left knee got so bad, that over night it went from a
> nuisance to being so painful that I couldn't walk up or down stairs. I
> ended with it immobilized all summer. As such I never got to play on
> the all-star baseball team :( I'm just paranoid.
> \\paul
Sounds like you are fine. But still sounds like you are best suited to
cultivating spin!
Joseph
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Date: 11 Sep 2006 06:05:12
From: Ravi
Subject: Re: My new bike
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joseph.santaniello@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> For anyone interested, here are some pics of my new bike:
>
> http://arbitrary.org/track1.jpg
> http://arbitrary.org/track2.jpg
awesome bike !!
> Profile Designs 47cm wide stoker bar
47cm is really wide :)
> 18T Surley cog
48x18 is about 70" gear. I run little lower gear - 39x15 = 68". it is a
lot of fun going up not-so-steep hills and even more fun is going
downhills. Sometimes when i ride with my friends, i would ask for a
rest-break at the bottom of the hill rather than on the top of the hill ;)
> This bike is to be my fun/commuter bike. I am recovering from illness,
just be careful of stupid thefts when locking up... it is so nice that
it will catch the wrong eyes...
> The super-wide bull-horn stoker bar is great for wide shoulders and big
> hands.
some folks with large have double wrapped their handlebars - may be you
can consider if it helps...
enjoy your new ride, definitely it will cure all illness :) get well soon...
cheers,
ravi
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Date: 10 Sep 2006 10:00:40
From:
Subject: Re: My new bike
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Paul Hobson wrote:
> joseph.santaniello@gmail.com wrote:
> > Paul Hobson wrote:
> >>>> joseph.santaniello@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>> 18T Surley cog
> >>>>> Tacx Tao bottle cage
> >> > Paul Hobson wrote:
> >>>> Those Surly cogs are really nice. I'd probably like Soma cogs too, but
> >>>> Surlies are readily available around here. How many teeth up front?
> >> joseph.santaniello@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> I had to mail-order everything, so I went with the Surley which was
> >>> what was available from my "local" mail-order place. It's 48t up front.
> >>> So far the 48x18 seems to be pretty good, but in my weakened state it
> >>> is hard to tell. It might end up being too light a gear once I get back
> >>> into the swing of things.
> >>>
> >> 48x18 on 25 mm Continentals is what I ride. I really like that gearing.
> >> Being a student forever trapped in the cycle of procrastination, my
> >> nutrition varies from day to day. Sometimes that gear plus the headwind
> >> is really tough. Sometime I want to swap the 18 out for the 17 that's
> >> just sitting in my toolbox. I have short dropouts though, so I need a
> >> half-link but can never seem to find one locally (they're always out and
> >> I refuse to mail order for one $5 part). Also, forcing myself to spin
> >> faster and be easier on the knees is a good thing, right?
> >
> > Georgia is hilly right? Do you need the 18 for hills or headwinds?
>
> Both. My 18 is fine up Atlanta's short, but steep hills. In Atlanta,
> whenever the temperature humidity is nice, the wind kicks up. When I've
> skimped on breakfast, I can struggle with either. Keep in mind, I'm 178
> cm tall and 61 kg, not exactly a powerhouse (5'10"-135 for no SI folk).
> But on a good day, I can get moving.
I'm sure your hills are steeper than anything around here that I plan
to attempt on this bike. Sometimes it's windy, but headwinds are my
specialty. Even in my emaciated state, I'm still 195 lbs (6'3") so
there should be some power lurking in there someplace! Yesterday on my
ride I saw a riding buddy I haven't seen for several weeks. The first
thing out of his mouth was, "Oh my god! What happened to you!? You look
like a twig!" I don't know what the moral of that story is, but maybe
it is: Don't skimp on breakfast. (?)
> > I
> > decided on the 18 due to the short hills around here, but that was
> > before I got sick and lost 14kg. Even in my weakened state,
> > purposefully taking it easy, I have zero problem on even the steepest
> > of the hills that influenced my decision to go with an 18. 14kg (31
> > lbs) makes a HUGE difference up hills.
> >
> > Part of the reason I got the bike was to help myself develop spin. I'm
> > sort of a masher and I would like to wean myself of that habit a bit
> > while my knees are still good. Not that I think they are going south,
> > but it would be a pisser to find out too late, right?
>
> I had knee issues from growing too fast between 13 - 16. That's always
> in the back of my head too.
I had knee problems at that age too, but they receeded with time, to
the point where I don't consider it an issue anymore. How old are you?
Joseph
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Date: 11 Sep 2006 06:36:42
From: Ravi
Subject: Re: My new bike
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did you lace up the wheels yourself ? I am guessing it 32-spoke wheels.
any reason for going 32 as against 36 ? What kind of hubs do you have on
them ??
i have found that it not always possible to go off-saddle when dodging
potholes - especially during fast runs or downhills. i have found it
almost impossible to spin fast off the saddle - more because i am afraid.
also, have you weighed your bike yet ??
+ravi
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Date: 10 Sep 2006 22:23:35
From: Paul Hobson
Subject: Re: My new bike
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>> joseph.santaniello@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Part of the reason I got the bike was to help myself develop spin. I'm
>>> sort of a masher and I would like to wean myself of that habit a bit
>>> while my knees are still good. Not that I think they are going south,
>>> but it would be a pisser to find out too late, right?
> Paul Hobson wrote:
>> I had knee issues from growing too fast between 13 - 16. That's always
>> in the back of my head too.
joseph.santaniello@gmail.com wrote:
> I had knee problems at that age too, but they receeded with time, to
> the point where I don't consider it an issue anymore. How old are you?
I'm just shy of 24 now. 99% sure that my knees are perfectly fine now.
Right one can feel funny at times, but it's no big deal/in my head.
When I was 13, my left knee got so bad, that over night it went from a
nuisance to being so painful that I couldn't walk up or down stairs. I
ended with it immobilized all summer. As such I never got to play on
the all-star baseball team :( I'm just paranoid.
\\paul
--
Paul M. Hobson
Georgia Institute of Technology
.:change the f to ph to reply:.
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Date: 09 Sep 2006 23:30:47
From:
Subject: Re: My new bike
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Paul Hobson wrote:
> >> joseph.santaniello@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> 18T Surley cog
> >>> Tacx Tao bottle cage
>
> > Paul Hobson wrote:
> >> Those Surly cogs are really nice. I'd probably like Soma cogs too, but
> >> Surlies are readily available around here. How many teeth up front?
>
> joseph.santaniello@gmail.com wrote:
> > I had to mail-order everything, so I went with the Surley which was
> > what was available from my "local" mail-order place. It's 48t up front.
> > So far the 48x18 seems to be pretty good, but in my weakened state it
> > is hard to tell. It might end up being too light a gear once I get back
> > into the swing of things.
> >
>
> 48x18 on 25 mm Continentals is what I ride. I really like that gearing.
> Being a student forever trapped in the cycle of procrastination, my
> nutrition varies from day to day. Sometimes that gear plus the headwind
> is really tough. Sometime I want to swap the 18 out for the 17 that's
> just sitting in my toolbox. I have short dropouts though, so I need a
> half-link but can never seem to find one locally (they're always out and
> I refuse to mail order for one $5 part). Also, forcing myself to spin
> faster and be easier on the knees is a good thing, right?
Georgia is hilly right? Do you need the 18 for hills or headwinds? I
decided on the 18 due to the short hills around here, but that was
before I got sick and lost 14kg. Even in my weakened state,
purposefully taking it easy, I have zero problem on even the steepest
of the hills that influenced my decision to go with an 18. 14kg (31
lbs) makes a HUGE difference up hills.
Part of the reason I got the bike was to help myself develop spin. I'm
sort of a masher and I would like to wean myself of that habit a bit
while my knees are still good. Not that I think they are going south,
but it would be a pisser to find out too late, right?
> Get well soon,
Will do! Thanks.
Joseph
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Date: 10 Sep 2006 10:59:44
From: Paul Hobson
Subject: Re: My new bike
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joseph.santaniello@gmail.com wrote:
> Paul Hobson wrote:
>>>> joseph.santaniello@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> 18T Surley cog
>>>>> Tacx Tao bottle cage
>> > Paul Hobson wrote:
>>>> Those Surly cogs are really nice. I'd probably like Soma cogs too, but
>>>> Surlies are readily available around here. How many teeth up front?
>> joseph.santaniello@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I had to mail-order everything, so I went with the Surley which was
>>> what was available from my "local" mail-order place. It's 48t up front.
>>> So far the 48x18 seems to be pretty good, but in my weakened state it
>>> is hard to tell. It might end up being too light a gear once I get back
>>> into the swing of things.
>>>
>> 48x18 on 25 mm Continentals is what I ride. I really like that gearing.
>> Being a student forever trapped in the cycle of procrastination, my
>> nutrition varies from day to day. Sometimes that gear plus the headwind
>> is really tough. Sometime I want to swap the 18 out for the 17 that's
>> just sitting in my toolbox. I have short dropouts though, so I need a
>> half-link but can never seem to find one locally (they're always out and
>> I refuse to mail order for one $5 part). Also, forcing myself to spin
>> faster and be easier on the knees is a good thing, right?
>
> Georgia is hilly right? Do you need the 18 for hills or headwinds?
Both. My 18 is fine up Atlanta's short, but steep hills. In Atlanta,
whenever the temperature humidity is nice, the wind kicks up. When I've
skimped on breakfast, I can struggle with either. Keep in mind, I'm 178
cm tall and 61 kg, not exactly a powerhouse (5'10"-135 for no SI folk).
But on a good day, I can get moving.
> I
> decided on the 18 due to the short hills around here, but that was
> before I got sick and lost 14kg. Even in my weakened state,
> purposefully taking it easy, I have zero problem on even the steepest
> of the hills that influenced my decision to go with an 18. 14kg (31
> lbs) makes a HUGE difference up hills.
>
> Part of the reason I got the bike was to help myself develop spin. I'm
> sort of a masher and I would like to wean myself of that habit a bit
> while my knees are still good. Not that I think they are going south,
> but it would be a pisser to find out too late, right?
I had knee issues from growing too fast between 13 - 16. That's always
in the back of my head too.
\\paul
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Date: 09 Sep 2006 13:31:29
From:
Subject: Re: My new bike
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Paul Hobson wrote:
> joseph.santaniello@gmail.com wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > For anyone interested, here are some pics of my new bike:
> >
> > http://arbitrary.org/track1.jpg
> > http://arbitrary.org/track2.jpg
>
> Nice! What size is that frame?
61cm center-top.
>
> > Windsor "The Hour" economy track bike
> > Selle Italia FLX Gel Flow Eleganza (500 grams of pure comfort!)
> > Profile Designs 47cm wide stoker bar
> > Cane Creek 200TT brake lever
> > Campagnolo Chorus brake (I wish it were a cheaper black Xenon or
> > Mirage, but I had the Chorus lying around)
> > Michelin Pro Race 700x25 tires and tubes
> > 18T Surley cog
> > Tacx Tao bottle cage
>
> Those Surly cogs are really nice. I'd probably like Soma cogs too, but
> Surlies are readily available around here. How many teeth up front?
I had to mail-order everything, so I went with the Surley which was
what was available from my "local" mail-order place. It's 48t up front.
So far the 48x18 seems to be pretty good, but in my weakened state it
is hard to tell. It might end up being too light a gear once I get back
into the swing of things.
> > This bike is to be my fun/commuter bike. I am recovering from illness,
> > so I haven't actually commuted with it yet, but I have taken it for a
> > few short spins, and it seems like it will be quite suited to the task.
> > The super-wide bull-horn stoker bar is great for wide shoulders and big
> > hands.
>
> Bullhorns are nice. I like multiple "hood" positions that you can have
> on them. Sometimes I wish I had drops too though. Just a thought: if
> I'm riding clips/straps on a fixie, they have to be metal straps. I get
> most of my stopping power and track stand control from pulling up on the
> pedals. Plastic clips just make me nervous.
Most of the time I have my hands on the tops at the center with my
fingers wrapped around the stem. I use the bull-horns when out of the
saddle, and during "maneuvers". On my road bike I only ever use the
drops when I am in a group and/or really hammering. A situation that
isn't going to happen on this bike, so I don't think I'll miss the
drops.
Metal XL clips are on order, and I have a double set of laminated
straps on the way too!
Joseph
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Date: 11 Sep 2006 06:19:42
From: Ravi
Subject: Re: My new bike
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joseph.santaniello@gmail.com wrote:
> 61cm center-top.
perfect fit for me :) now, where did you say you park it overnight ;)
>> Bullhorns are nice. I like multiple "hood" positions that you can have
>> on them. Sometimes I wish I had drops too though. Just a thought: if
>> I'm riding clips/straps on a fixie, they have to be metal straps. I get
>> most of my stopping power and track stand control from pulling up on the
>> pedals. Plastic clips just make me nervous.
i have been riding on plastic clips and haven't had much trouble. Unlike
you both i have drop bars and i like the hoods so much that i have both
of them. my rear brake lever broke when i dropped it when practicing
track-stand and i have never bothered to fix it...
+ravi
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Date: 09 Sep 2006 17:24:46
From: Paul Hobson
Subject: Re: My new bike
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>> joseph.santaniello@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 18T Surley cog
>>> Tacx Tao bottle cage
> Paul Hobson wrote:
>> Those Surly cogs are really nice. I'd probably like Soma cogs too, but
>> Surlies are readily available around here. How many teeth up front?
joseph.santaniello@gmail.com wrote:
> I had to mail-order everything, so I went with the Surley which was
> what was available from my "local" mail-order place. It's 48t up front.
> So far the 48x18 seems to be pretty good, but in my weakened state it
> is hard to tell. It might end up being too light a gear once I get back
> into the swing of things.
>
48x18 on 25 mm Continentals is what I ride. I really like that gearing.
Being a student forever trapped in the cycle of procrastination, my
nutrition varies from day to day. Sometimes that gear plus the headwind
is really tough. Sometime I want to swap the 18 out for the 17 that's
just sitting in my toolbox. I have short dropouts though, so I need a
half-link but can never seem to find one locally (they're always out and
I refuse to mail order for one $5 part). Also, forcing myself to spin
faster and be easier on the knees is a good thing, right?
Get well soon,
\\paul
--
Paul M. Hobson
Georgia Institute of Technology
.:change the f to ph to reply:.
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Date: 09 Sep 2006 20:16:30
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: My new bike
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joseph.santaniello@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> For anyone interested, here are some pics of my new bike:
>
> http://arbitrary.org/track1.jpg
> http://arbitrary.org/track2.jpg
Take it back! They left off all the cables, cogs and dangly bits!
(Yeah, yeah... NICE. :) )
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Date: 09 Sep 2006 15:48:51
From: Paul Hobson
Subject: Re: My new bike
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joseph.santaniello@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> For anyone interested, here are some pics of my new bike:
>
> http://arbitrary.org/track1.jpg
> http://arbitrary.org/track2.jpg
Nice! What size is that frame?
> Windsor "The Hour" economy track bike
> Selle Italia FLX Gel Flow Eleganza (500 grams of pure comfort!)
> Profile Designs 47cm wide stoker bar
> Cane Creek 200TT brake lever
> Campagnolo Chorus brake (I wish it were a cheaper black Xenon or
> Mirage, but I had the Chorus lying around)
> Michelin Pro Race 700x25 tires and tubes
> 18T Surley cog
> Tacx Tao bottle cage
Those Surly cogs are really nice. I'd probably like Soma cogs too, but
Surlies are readily available around here. How many teeth up front?
> This bike is to be my fun/commuter bike. I am recovering from illness,
> so I haven't actually commuted with it yet, but I have taken it for a
> few short spins, and it seems like it will be quite suited to the task.
> The super-wide bull-horn stoker bar is great for wide shoulders and big
> hands.
Bullhorns are nice. I like multiple "hood" positions that you can have
on them. Sometimes I wish I had drops too though. Just a thought: if
I'm riding clips/straps on a fixie, they have to be metal straps. I get
most of my stopping power and track stand control from pulling up on the
pedals. Plastic clips just make me nervous.
--
Paul M. Hobson
Georgia Institute of Technology
.:change the f to ph to reply:.
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