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Date: 26 Oct 2006 01:52:02
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: My new helmet!
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Almost have the fit worked out...
http://apnews.excite.com/image/20061023/JAPAN_TOSHIBA_GADGET-1.sff_XKAJ102_20061023071750.html?date=20061025&docid=D8KVV0680
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Date: 27 Oct 2006 14:42:47
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: My new helmet!
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Bart Bailey wrote:
> In Message-ID:<blq0h.15824$gU6.15088@tornado.socal.rr.com> posted on
> Fri, 27 Oct 2006 16:20:23 GMT, Bill Sornson wrote: Begin
>
> >Bart Bailey wrote:
> >> In
> >> Message-ID:<jack-C8C110.02340627102006@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com>
> >> posted on Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:34:06 GMT, Michael Press wrote: Begin
> >>
> >>> It is helpful to write a URL between angle brackets,
> >>> because even when the sending agent automatically line
> >>> wraps, the reading agent can parse it as a URL.
> >>
> >> ...or just use this service http://tinyurl.com/
> >
> >Whoosh.
> >
>
> It didn't whoosh over my head, maybe the initial party, but it seems
> rather trivial to drop a long pleated link into tinyurl rather than
> expect a subsequent reader to do all the work.
Exactly. If you want to share something, make it easy to access.
> BTW: Here's an interesting link fer ya http://tinyurl.com/yztyuh
>
> --
>
> Bart
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Date: 27 Oct 2006 10:11:42
From: AustinMN
Subject: Re: My new helmet!
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Tom Keats wrote:
> In article <jack-A10216.13075726102006@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com>,
> Michael Press <jack@abc.net> writes:
> > In article
> > <1161885614.916590.38290@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> > "AustinMN" <tacooper260@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> One more thing, proper
> >> newsgroup etiquette calls for using a shortened-url redirector (such as
> >> <http://tinyurl.com/>).
> >
> > I disagree very strongly. I want to see the link that
> > is recommended to me. Will etiquette deny me this?
>
> When I use tinyurl or makeashorterlink or whatever, I like to
> also include the original, long URL. I figure the full name
> of the URL at least helps provide readers with some context,
> so they're not invited to blindly click on some gawd-only-knows-
> where-it-goes link. So even if the long link is line-broken,
> it's still informative, while the abbreviated link is functional.
Oh, yes! I should have known to include this in my original post.
I also don't click blind links (unless another poster gives me a reason
to trust them). Did that once, never again. The link I clicked was in
a very carefully constructed troll post, and some who clicked it
reported putting their job at risk because of the nature of the prank.
So I knew to put more information (i.e. include the long URL) in order
to be more informative.
Austin
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Date: 27 Oct 2006 20:31:43
From: Bart Bailey
Subject: Re: My new helmet!
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In Message-ID:<1161969101.954524.133860@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com >
posted on 27 Oct 2006 10:11:42 -0700, AustinMN wrote: Begin
>I also don't click blind links (unless another poster gives me a reason
>to trust them). Did that once, never again. The link I clicked was in
>a very carefully constructed troll post, and some who clicked it
>reported putting their job at risk because of the nature of the prank.
>So I knew to put more information (i.e. include the long URL) in order
>to be more informative.
Maybe you need to secure your browser before venturing out on the big
bad superhighway, there's not a link anywhere that will hurt me, some
might not work due to poor construction but they won't cause any harm.
--
Bart
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Date: 26 Oct 2006 19:56:43
From: Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: My new helmet!
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AustinMN wrote:
> ...One more thing, proper newsgroup etiquette calls for using a shortened-url redirector
> (such as <http://tinyurl.com/>)....
Only if the poster is a trusted source - otherwise the link might be to
goatse or similar matter.
--
Tom Sherman - Here, not there.
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Date: 27 Oct 2006 02:01:06
From: Werehatrack
Subject: Re: My new helmet!
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On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 01:52:02 GMT, "Bill Sornson" <askme@ask.me > wrote:
>Almost have the fit worked out...
>
>http://apnews.excite.com/image/20061023/JAPAN_TOSHIBA_GADGET-1.sff_XKAJ102_20061023071750.html?date=20061025&docid=D8KVV0680
What, no racing stripes?
Of course, you'll need to tell us whether it's supported by the strap
tucked into your double chin or if it hangs from the raised hairs on
the top of your head. BTW, does it use a dessicant to absorb your
sweat, or a wicking pad to channel it away, or does it come with its
own antiperspirant stick or spray, and does it have Teflon in it?
--
Typoes are a feature, not a bug.
Some gardening required to reply via email.
Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.
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Date: 26 Oct 2006 15:26:30
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: My new helmet!
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In article <jack-A10216.13075726102006@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com >,
Michael Press <jack@abc.net > writes:
> In article
> <1161885614.916590.38290@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> "AustinMN" <tacooper260@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> One more thing, proper
>> newsgroup etiquette calls for using a shortened-url redirector (such as
>> <http://tinyurl.com/>).
>
> I disagree very strongly. I want to see the link that
> is recommended to me. Will etiquette deny me this?
When I use tinyurl or makeashorterlink or whatever, I like to
also include the original, long URL. I figure the full name
of the URL at least helps provide readers with some context,
so they're not invited to blindly click on some gawd-only-knows-
where-it-goes link. So even if the long link is line-broken,
it's still informative, while the abbreviated link is functional.
cheers,
Tom
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Above address is just a spam midden.
I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca
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Date: 27 Oct 2006 08:15:25
From: catzz66
Subject: Re: My new helmet!
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Tom Keats wrote:
>
>
> When I use tinyurl or makeashorterlink or whatever, I like to
> also include the original, long URL. I figure the full name
> of the URL at least helps provide readers with some context,
> so they're not invited to blindly click on some gawd-only-knows-
> where-it-goes link. So even if the long link is line-broken,
> it's still informative, while the abbreviated link is functional.
>
>
>
That's a very good idea. I still can't believe that this day and age,
people would still complain about URLs that get broken when all a person
has to do is copy and paste the whole shebang into the browser bar.
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Date: 27 Oct 2006 18:51:45
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: My new helmet!
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In article <4qef3dFmjgcoU1@individual.net >,
catzz66 <dingdong@rammalamma.net > wrote:
> Tom Keats wrote:
> >
> >
> > When I use tinyurl or makeashorterlink or whatever, I like to
> > also include the original, long URL. I figure the full name
> > of the URL at least helps provide readers with some context,
> > so they're not invited to blindly click on some gawd-only-knows-
> > where-it-goes link. So even if the long link is line-broken,
> > it's still informative, while the abbreviated link is functional.
> >
> >
> >
>
> That's a very good idea. I still can't believe that this day and age,
> people would still complain about URLs that get broken when all a person
> has to do is copy and paste the whole shebang into the browser bar.
Yes, and if it has been line wrapped, then quoted, I
can copy and paste into an editor, edit, then copy and
paste into the browser bar, or with some editors, click
on the edited URL. Nevertheless, if the URL is enclosed
in angle brackets, and line wrapped, most reading
agents will recognize it for a URL, releasing me from
the copy&paste chore.
--
Michael Press
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Date: 27 Oct 2006 15:03:33
From: catzz66
Subject: Re: My new helmet!
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Michael Press wrote:
>
>
> Yes, and if it has been line wrapped, then quoted, I
> can copy and paste into an editor, edit, then copy and
> paste into the browser bar, or with some editors, click
> on the edited URL. Nevertheless, if the URL is enclosed
> in angle brackets, and line wrapped, most reading
> agents will recognize it for a URL, releasing me from
> the copy&paste chore.
>
Right, and even then, it is at best a minor inconvenience.
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Date: 27 Oct 2006 23:20:28
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: My new helmet!
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In article <4qf70mFmsh3bU1@individual.net >,
catzz66 <dingdong@rammalamma.net > wrote:
> Michael Press wrote:
> > Yes, and if it has been line wrapped, then quoted, I
> > can copy and paste into an editor, edit, then copy and
> > paste into the browser bar, or with some editors, click
> > on the edited URL. Nevertheless, if the URL is enclosed
> > in angle brackets, and line wrapped, most reading
> > agents will recognize it for a URL, releasing me from
> > the copy&paste chore.
>
> Right, and even then, it is at best a minor inconvenience.
It adds up. Should the writer enclose the URL in angle
brackets, or should everybody else compensate for the
absence of angle brackets?
--
Michael Press
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Date: 27 Oct 2006 15:45:04
From:
Subject: Re: My new helmet!
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On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:15:25 -0500, catzz66 <dingdong@rammalamma.net >
wrote:
>Tom Keats wrote:
>>
>>
>> When I use tinyurl or makeashorterlink or whatever, I like to
>> also include the original, long URL. I figure the full name
>> of the URL at least helps provide readers with some context,
>> so they're not invited to blindly click on some gawd-only-knows-
>> where-it-goes link. So even if the long link is line-broken,
>> it's still informative, while the abbreviated link is functional.
>>
>>
>>
>
>That's a very good idea. I still can't believe that this day and age,
>people would still complain about URLs that get broken when all a person
>has to do is copy and paste the whole shebang into the browser bar.
Well, the number of usenet readers is still growing, and some of those
will not understand the various conventions that have been developed -
they are newbies, after all.
Ozark seems to be in this class; he did have problems with counting
quote characters a while back...
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Date: 26 Oct 2006 20:56:59
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: My new helmet!
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On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 15:26:30 -0700, tkeats2005@hotmail.com (Tom Keats)
wrote:
>
>When I use tinyurl or makeashorterlink or whatever, I like to
>also include the original, long URL. I figure the full name
>of the URL at least helps provide readers with some context,
Yes!
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JT
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Date: 26 Oct 2006 12:52:29
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: My new helmet!
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j "20 and a fraction" taylor wrote:
> On 26 Oct 2006 11:00:15 -0700, "AustinMN" <tacooper260@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >> Now remember, you can't expect people to hold your hand forever,
> >> especially if you keep on acting like a teenager that has discovered
> >> that other teenagers giggle when you use foul language - in
> >> otherwords, Bill Sornson is _not_ a good role-model.
> >
> >Good advice for yourself, in this case.
> >
>
>
> Not needed.
>
> I can do maths, even _with_ a calculator.
But can ya count past 20 without opening yer fly? ;-)
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Date: 26 Oct 2006 11:00:15
From: AustinMN
Subject: Re: My new helmet!
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jtaylor@NOSPAM.hfx.andara.com wrote:
> On 26 Oct 2006 09:01:40 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
> <bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
<snip >
> >
> >I know the link "wrapped". IMO, it's the resposibility of the poster to
> >provide a working link, you little post humper.
>
>
> The poster cannot possible know
>
> a) what newsreader you - or anyone else - is using; and/or
>
> b) if you - or anyone else - knows how to use it.
>
> It is _your_ responsibility to find out how your software, and usenet
> in general, works.
Then you should know this - most wrapping is imposed by the *poster's*
newsreader. In addition, convention is to wrap long links in
open/close angle brackets (< >). Very many newsreaders will then not
wrap the link when posting, and a few can sometimes properly
reconstruct the link if it is wrapped. One more thing, proper
newsgroup etiquette calls for using a shortened-url redirector (such as
<http://tinyurl.com/ >).
> Now remember, you can't expect people to hold your hand forever,
> especially if you keep on acting like a teenager that has discovered
> that other teenagers giggle when you use foul language - in
> otherwords, Bill Sornson is _not_ a good role-model.
Good advice for yourself, in this case.
Austin
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Date: 26 Oct 2006 20:56:25
From: John Forrest Tomlinson
Subject: Re: My new helmet!
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On 26 Oct 2006 11:00:15 -0700, "AustinMN" <tacooper260@hotmail.com >
wrote:
>One more thing, proper
>newsgroup etiquette calls for using a shortened-url redirector (such as
><http://tinyurl.com/>).
I think it's bad to only post a shortened URL like that. If that
company goes out of business, the links will break. Seems to me the
proper thing is to post the full URL properly, and perhaps also a
shorted URL as a bonus.
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Date: 26 Oct 2006 20:07:58
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: My new helmet!
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In article
<1161885614.916590.38290@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com >,
"AustinMN" <tacooper260@hotmail.com > wrote:
> One more thing, proper
> newsgroup etiquette calls for using a shortened-url redirector (such as
> <http://tinyurl.com/>).
I disagree very strongly. I want to see the link that
is recommended to me. Will etiquette deny me this?
--
Michael Press
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Date: 26 Oct 2006 23:56:34
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: My new helmet!
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Michael Press wrote:
> In article
> <1161885614.916590.38290@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> "AustinMN" <tacooper260@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> One more thing, proper
>> newsgroup etiquette calls for using a shortened-url redirector (such
>> as <http://tinyurl.com/>).
>
> I disagree very strongly. I want to see the link that
> is recommended to me. Will etiquette deny me this?
Many people will not click on a blind link (I sure won't, at least until
others indicate that it's safe). I seldom have to copy and paste to fill in
a wrapped link, either; they usually work just fine as is.
Bill "now about that PS business..." S.
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Date: 26 Oct 2006 18:07:55
From:
Subject: Re: My new helmet!
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On 26 Oct 2006 11:00:15 -0700, "AustinMN" <tacooper260@hotmail.com >
wrote:
>
>> Now remember, you can't expect people to hold your hand forever,
>> especially if you keep on acting like a teenager that has discovered
>> that other teenagers giggle when you use foul language - in
>> otherwords, Bill Sornson is _not_ a good role-model.
>
>Good advice for yourself, in this case.
>
Not needed.
I can do maths, even _with_ a calculator.
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Date: 26 Oct 2006 09:01:40
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: My new helmet!
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jtaylor@NOSPAM.hfx.andara.com wrote:
> On 26 Oct 2006 05:58:34 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
> <bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Afraid To Take Hands Off The Bars wrote:
> >> "Ozark Bicycle" <bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1161827909.994187.317620@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >> >
> >> > Bill Sornson wrote:
> >> > > Almost have the fit worked out...
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> http://apnews.excite.com/image/20061023/JAPAN_TOSHIBA_GADGET-1.sff_XKAJ102_2
> >> 0061023071750.html?date=20061025&docid=D8KVV0680
> >> >
> >> > What will The Pompous Gasbag say about this?? ;-)
> >> >
> >>
> >> Show some initiative! The year is NOT over yet!
> >>
> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/ed58db235
> >> 209c9ac/108fb35736a0c134
> >
> >
> >Clicking on the link you gave leads to "No Subject". ?
>
> Remember when you made beginner mistake of not counting quote
> characters and thinking that you were being quoted when it was clear
> (to those of us who understood how the usenet quoting convention
> works) that you were not? My how you did get upset....
>
> Anyway, your problem here is that there is a thing that happens with
> some newsreaders - yours, for instance - called "word-wrap". What
> happens is that any text line that exceeds some pre-set value is
> broken and continued on the line below. You might notice that the
> link given is followed by what must have appeared to you to be
> unimportant numbers - but they are really part of the link, wrapped by
> your newsreader.
>
> You have two options, if you wish to reach the link provided:
>
> a) manually add the second part of the line to the address in your
> browser "address bar" or whatever it is called in your browser, then
> press the "go" button (or whatever that is called in your browser); or
>
> b) learn how to set your newsreader to not wrap long text lines.
>
> Now remember, don't get cross. Everyone is new at first, and these
> little tricks - counting quotes and figuring out whare a link starts
> and stops - are not covered, as far as we know, in bicycle mechanic
> school; there's no shame in not understanding them, or other tricky
> things like proper scientific study design or the interpretation of
> statistics, etcetera, etcetera, when you haven't been properly trained
> to do so.
I know the link "wrapped". IMO, it's the resposibility of the poster to
provide a working link, you little post humper.
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Date: 26 Oct 2006 16:09:25
From:
Subject: Re: My new helmet!
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On 26 Oct 2006 09:01:40 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
<bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:
>
>jtaylor@NOSPAM.hfx.andara.com wrote:
>> On 26 Oct 2006 05:58:34 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
>> <bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Afraid To Take Hands Off The Bars wrote:
>> >> "Ozark Bicycle" <bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:1161827909.994187.317620@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> >> >
>> >> > Bill Sornson wrote:
>> >> > > Almost have the fit worked out...
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> http://apnews.excite.com/image/20061023/JAPAN_TOSHIBA_GADGET-1.sff_XKAJ102_2
>> >> 0061023071750.html?date=20061025&docid=D8KVV0680
>> >> >
>> >> > What will The Pompous Gasbag say about this?? ;-)
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Show some initiative! The year is NOT over yet!
>> >>
>> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/ed58db235
>> >> 209c9ac/108fb35736a0c134
>> >
>> >
>> >Clicking on the link you gave leads to "No Subject". ?
>>
>> Remember when you made beginner mistake of not counting quote
>> characters and thinking that you were being quoted when it was clear
>> (to those of us who understood how the usenet quoting convention
>> works) that you were not? My how you did get upset....
>>
>> Anyway, your problem here is that there is a thing that happens with
>> some newsreaders - yours, for instance - called "word-wrap". What
>> happens is that any text line that exceeds some pre-set value is
>> broken and continued on the line below. You might notice that the
>> link given is followed by what must have appeared to you to be
>> unimportant numbers - but they are really part of the link, wrapped by
>> your newsreader.
>>
>> You have two options, if you wish to reach the link provided:
>>
>> a) manually add the second part of the line to the address in your
>> browser "address bar" or whatever it is called in your browser, then
>> press the "go" button (or whatever that is called in your browser); or
>>
>> b) learn how to set your newsreader to not wrap long text lines.
>>
>> Now remember, don't get cross. Everyone is new at first, and these
>> little tricks - counting quotes and figuring out whare a link starts
>> and stops - are not covered, as far as we know, in bicycle mechanic
>> school; there's no shame in not understanding them, or other tricky
>> things like proper scientific study design or the interpretation of
>> statistics, etcetera, etcetera, when you haven't been properly trained
>> to do so.
>
>I know the link "wrapped". IMO, it's the resposibility of the poster to
>provide a working link, you little post humper.
The poster cannot possible know
a) what newsreader you - or anyone else - is using; and/or
b) if you - or anyone else - knows how to use it.
It is _your_ responsibility to find out how your software, and usenet
in general, works.
Now remember, you can't expect people to hold your hand forever,
especially if you keep on acting like a teenager that has discovered
that other teenagers giggle when you use foul language - in
otherwords, Bill Sornson is _not_ a good role-model.
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Date: 26 Oct 2006 05:58:34
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: My new helmet!
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Afraid To Take Hands Off The Bars wrote:
> "Ozark Bicycle" <bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote in message
> news:1161827909.994187.317620@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Bill Sornson wrote:
> > > Almost have the fit worked out...
> > >
> > >
> http://apnews.excite.com/image/20061023/JAPAN_TOSHIBA_GADGET-1.sff_XKAJ102_2
> 0061023071750.html?date=20061025&docid=D8KVV0680
> >
> > What will The Pompous Gasbag say about this?? ;-)
> >
>
> Show some initiative! The year is NOT over yet!
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/ed58db235
> 209c9ac/108fb35736a0c134
Clicking on the link you gave leads to "No Subject". ?
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Date: 26 Oct 2006 15:56:47
From:
Subject: Re: My new helmet!
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On 26 Oct 2006 05:58:34 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
<bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:
>
>Afraid To Take Hands Off The Bars wrote:
>> "Ozark Bicycle" <bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote in message
>> news:1161827909.994187.317620@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > Bill Sornson wrote:
>> > > Almost have the fit worked out...
>> > >
>> > >
>> http://apnews.excite.com/image/20061023/JAPAN_TOSHIBA_GADGET-1.sff_XKAJ102_2
>> 0061023071750.html?date=20061025&docid=D8KVV0680
>> >
>> > What will The Pompous Gasbag say about this?? ;-)
>> >
>>
>> Show some initiative! The year is NOT over yet!
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/ed58db235
>> 209c9ac/108fb35736a0c134
>
>
>Clicking on the link you gave leads to "No Subject". ?
Remember when you made beginner mistake of not counting quote
characters and thinking that you were being quoted when it was clear
(to those of us who understood how the usenet quoting convention
works) that you were not? My how you did get upset....
Anyway, your problem here is that there is a thing that happens with
some newsreaders - yours, for instance - called "word-wrap". What
happens is that any text line that exceeds some pre-set value is
broken and continued on the line below. You might notice that the
link given is followed by what must have appeared to you to be
unimportant numbers - but they are really part of the link, wrapped by
your newsreader.
You have two options, if you wish to reach the link provided:
a) manually add the second part of the line to the address in your
browser "address bar" or whatever it is called in your browser, then
press the "go" button (or whatever that is called in your browser); or
b) learn how to set your newsreader to not wrap long text lines.
Now remember, don't get cross. Everyone is new at first, and these
little tricks - counting quotes and figuring out whare a link starts
and stops - are not covered, as far as we know, in bicycle mechanic
school; there's no shame in not understanding them, or other tricky
things like proper scientific study design or the interpretation of
statistics, etcetera, etcetera, when you haven't been properly trained
to do so.
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Date: 26 Oct 2006 19:54:08
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: My new helmet!
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In article
<p3m1k21aiiv7pr15qgnqdbl3hc6j4ser0a@4ax.com >,
jtaylor@NOSPAM.hfx.andara.com wrote:
> On 26 Oct 2006 05:58:34 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
> <bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
> >Afraid To Take Hands Off The Bars wrote:
[...]
> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/ed58db235
> >> 209c9ac/108fb35736a0c134
[...]
> b) learn how to set your newsreader to not wrap long text lines.
The word wrap problem came from the sending news reader:
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106
X-Priority: 3
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106
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Michael Press
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Date: 27 Oct 2006 00:55:18
From:
Subject: Re: My new helmet!
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On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:54:08 GMT, Michael Press <jack@abc.net > wrote:
>In article
><p3m1k21aiiv7pr15qgnqdbl3hc6j4ser0a@4ax.com>,
> jtaylor@NOSPAM.hfx.andara.com wrote:
>
>> On 26 Oct 2006 05:58:34 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
>> <bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
>> >Afraid To Take Hands Off The Bars wrote:
>
>[...]
>
>> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/ed58db235
>> >> 209c9ac/108fb35736a0c134
>
>[...]
>
>> b) learn how to set your newsreader to not wrap long text lines.
>
>The word wrap problem came from the sending news reader:
>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106
>X-Priority: 3
>X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106
This will only be a problem if the person reading news does not
understand what word wrap is and what a link looks like. Those that do
can manually edit the link (if their newsreader won't fix it for
them); those that do not can complain (as Ozark did) in the newsgroup
that the link does not work, and sooner or later someone will take the
time to explain things to them.
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Date: 27 Oct 2006 09:34:06
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: My new helmet!
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In article
<3vl2k2le0g1ak213nds1rrih59t85gchqr@4ax.com >,
jtaylor@NOSPAM.hfx.andara.com wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 19:54:08 GMT, Michael Press <jack@abc.net> wrote:
>
> >In article
> ><p3m1k21aiiv7pr15qgnqdbl3hc6j4ser0a@4ax.com>,
> > jtaylor@NOSPAM.hfx.andara.com wrote:
> >
> >> On 26 Oct 2006 05:58:34 -0700, "Ozark Bicycle"
> >> <bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
> >> >Afraid To Take Hands Off The Bars wrote:
> >
> >[...]
> >
> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/ed58db235
> >> >> 209c9ac/108fb35736a0c134
> >
> >[...]
> >
> >> b) learn how to set your newsreader to not wrap long text lines.
> >
> >The word wrap problem came from the sending news reader:
> >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106
> >X-Priority: 3
> >X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106
>
> This will only be a problem if the person reading news does not
> understand what word wrap is and what a link looks like. Those that do
> can manually edit the link (if their newsreader won't fix it for
> them); those that do not can complain (as Ozark did) in the newsgroup
> that the link does not work, and sooner or later someone will take the
> time to explain things to them.
I posted a message to misc.test with Message-ID
<jack-5C9B2E.02201727102006@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com
>
I enabled automatic line wrapping in my news reader,
MT-NewsWatcher, and wrote the above URL twice; enclosed
in angle brackets, < >, and not enclosed. The two
instances of the URL were line wrapped by MTNW. I
opened the message with MTNW. The angle bracketed and
line wrapped URL was live, while the un-bracketed URL
was not.
It is helpful to write a URL between angle brackets,
because even when the sending agent automatically line
wraps, the reading agent can parse it as a URL.
--
Michael Press
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Date: 27 Oct 2006 10:08:45
From: Bart Bailey
Subject: Re: My new helmet!
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In Message-ID:<jack-C8C110.02340627102006@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com >
posted on Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:34:06 GMT, Michael Press wrote: Begin
>It is helpful to write a URL between angle brackets,
>because even when the sending agent automatically line
>wraps, the reading agent can parse it as a URL.
...or just use this service http://tinyurl.com/
--
Bart
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Date: 27 Oct 2006 16:20:23
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: My new helmet!
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Bart Bailey wrote:
> In
> Message-ID:<jack-C8C110.02340627102006@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com>
> posted on Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:34:06 GMT, Michael Press wrote: Begin
>
>> It is helpful to write a URL between angle brackets,
>> because even when the sending agent automatically line
>> wraps, the reading agent can parse it as a URL.
>
> ...or just use this service http://tinyurl.com/
Whoosh.
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Date: 27 Oct 2006 20:36:42
From: Bart Bailey
Subject: Re: My new helmet!
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In Message-ID:<blq0h.15824$gU6.15088@tornado.socal.rr.com > posted on
Fri, 27 Oct 2006 16:20:23 GMT, Bill Sornson wrote: Begin
>Bart Bailey wrote:
>> In
>> Message-ID:<jack-C8C110.02340627102006@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com>
>> posted on Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:34:06 GMT, Michael Press wrote: Begin
>>
>>> It is helpful to write a URL between angle brackets,
>>> because even when the sending agent automatically line
>>> wraps, the reading agent can parse it as a URL.
>>
>> ...or just use this service http://tinyurl.com/
>
>Whoosh.
>
It didn't whoosh over my head, maybe the initial party, but it seems
rather trivial to drop a long pleated link into tinyurl rather than
expect a subsequent reader to do all the work.
BTW: Here's an interesting link fer ya http://tinyurl.com/yztyuh
--
Bart
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Date: 25 Oct 2006 19:02:25
From:
Subject: Re: My new helmet!
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Bill Sornson wrote:
> Almost have the fit worked out...
>
> http://apnews.excite.com/image/20061023/JAPAN_TOSHIBA_GADGET-1.sff_XKAJ102_20061023071750.html?date=20061025&docid=D8KVV0680
The Toshiba FaceBowl 2000 is the latest in bicycle helmet
technology. It is also suitable for rock climbing, space walks,
deep sea diving, and rollerblading.
I have one and I really love it. The only problem is ventilation.
And risk compensation. I ride like a crazy m*$!@#* when I'm
wearing my FaceBowl.
Robert
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Date: 25 Oct 2006 18:58:30
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: My new helmet!
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Bill Sornson wrote:
> Almost have the fit worked out...
>
> http://apnews.excite.com/image/20061023/JAPAN_TOSHIBA_GADGET-1.sff_XKAJ102_20061023071750.html?date=20061025&docid=D8KVV0680
What will The Pompous Gasbag say about this?? ;-)
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Date: 27 Oct 2006 14:01:59
From: AustinMN
Subject: Re: My new helmet!
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Bart Bailey wrote:
> In Message-ID:<1161969101.954524.133860@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>
> posted on 27 Oct 2006 10:11:42 -0700, AustinMN wrote: Begin
>
> >I also don't click blind links (unless another poster gives me a reason
> >to trust them). Did that once, never again. The link I clicked was in
> >a very carefully constructed troll post, and some who clicked it
> >reported putting their job at risk because of the nature of the prank.
> >So I knew to put more information (i.e. include the long URL) in order
> >to be more informative.
>
> Maybe you need to secure your browser before venturing out on the big
> bad superhighway, there's not a link anywhere that will hurt me, some
> might not work due to poor construction but they won't cause any harm.
When the employer sets the policy, there isn't much you can do about
it.
In the case in question, I got one porn image. I learned later (my
workstation did not have speakers at the time), that others received
dozens of rapid-fire images while "HEY, CHECK THIS OUT! I'M LOOKING AT
GAY PORN!" blasted over the speakers.
the only safe thing is to lock up your browser _and_ don't follow links
of unknown nature.
Austin
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Date: 27 Oct 2006 21:39:03
From: Bart Bailey
Subject: Re: My new helmet!
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In Message-ID:<1161982919.141110.62830@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com >
posted on 27 Oct 2006 14:01:59 -0700, AustinMN wrote: Begin
>the only safe thing is to lock up your browser _and_ don't follow links
>of unknown nature.
or wait until you get home to a better system
--
Bart
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Date: 25 Oct 2006 22:54:49
From: Afraid To Take Hands Off The Bars
Subject: Re: My new helmet!
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"Ozark Bicycle" <bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote in message
news:1161827909.994187.317620@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Bill Sornson wrote:
> > Almost have the fit worked out...
> >
> >
http://apnews.excite.com/image/20061023/JAPAN_TOSHIBA_GADGET-1.sff_XKAJ102_2
0061023071750.html?date=20061025&docid=D8KVV0680
>
> What will The Pompous Gasbag say about this?? ;-)
>
Show some initiative! The year is NOT over yet!
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/ed58db235
209c9ac/108fb35736a0c134
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