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Date: 19 Dec 2006 13:53:30
From: Rex Kerr
Subject: Oldest post on this group?
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What's your oldest post on this group?
Me? May 20, 03, the 1201st thread that Google groups has for this
group. on the .tech group I started the 1941st thread.
It's been a long time, and many miles!
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Date: 27 Dec 2006 18:22:30
From: Colorado Bicycler
Subject: Re: Oldest post on this group?
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On Dec 19, 5:46=A0pm, "Rich Clark" <rdclark2S...@TRAPcomcast.net > wrote:
> "Rex Kerr" <rexk...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1166565210.116916.629=
80@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
>
> > What's your oldest post on this group?
>
> > Me? =A0May 20, 03, the 1201st thread that Google groups has for this
> > group. =A0on the .tech group I started the 1941st thread.
>
> > It's been a long time, and many miles!Oct 4 1999.
>
> Don't have much time or patience for Usenet anymore, though.
>
> RichC
Beat you!
As DnvrFox
21 1999 by DnvrFox
But, I only come here now and then anymore. Too many Ed Dolans, etc.
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Date: 05 Jan 2007 19:51:45
From: Claire Petersky
Subject: Re: Oldest post on this group?
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"Colorado Bicycler" <dnvrfox@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1167272550.656485.28630@48g2000cwx.googlegroups.com...
But, I only come here now and then anymore.
Well, I for one miss you. I know you probably found me razzing you about
your advanced years annoying, but I only meant it in a jolly, not a mean
way.
--
Warm Regards,
Claire Petersky
http://www.bicyclemeditations.org/
See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky
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Date: 23 Dec 2006 17:41:49
From: Bob
Subject: Re: Oldest post on this group?
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Rex Kerr wrote:
> What's your oldest post on this group?
>
> Me? May 20, 03, the 1201st thread that Google groups has for this
> group. on the .tech group I started the 1941st thread.
>
> It's been a long time, and many miles!
I don't know the exact date- and I'm too lazy to look for it- but I
think it was sometime in 1998 or '99. I recall posts about the
then-upcoming Y2K.
Regards,
Bob Hunt
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Date: 23 Dec 2006 14:54:22
From: Claire
Subject: Re: Oldest post on this group?
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Rex Kerr wrote:
> What's your oldest post on this group?
>
> Me? May 20, 03, the 1201st thread that Google groups has for this
> group. on the .tech group I started the 1941st thread.
I have a post to rec.bicycles.soc from 2/28/94, but it wasn't from my
account. I was using my husband's back then. It wasn't common in those
days to have net access outside of work, and most work places didn't
have it. And the post only appeared on that newsgroup because it was
cross-posted with alt.planning.urban, which I read back in those days.
My first post to rec.bicycles.misc was 8/27/00.
Warm Regards,
Claire Petersky
http://www.bicyclemeditations.org/
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 21:21:39
From: Alex Colvin
Subject: Re: Oldest post on this group?
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>What's your oldest post on this group?
sometime around the time of Spike Bike and Mocsny
--
mac the naïf
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Date: 21 Dec 2006 19:14:10
From: John Everett
Subject: Re: Oldest post on this group?
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On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 21:21:39 +0000 (UTC), Alex Colvin
<alexc@TheWorld.com > wrote:
>>What's your oldest post on this group?
>
>sometime around the time of Spike Bike and Mocsny
BTW, the Spike Bike stories are archived in a number of places around
the 'net. Just Google.
YABTW, when the Spike Bike stories were first posted I was living in
New Jersey. I subsequently moved to Illinois in 1995 I joined the
Naperville Bicycle Club and rode many, many times with Bob Fishell,
author of the Spike Bike stories. Bob doesn't ride all that much any
more, but he's still a member of NBC (and club webmaster). I run into
him at club social events fairly often.
jeverett3<AT >earthlink<DOT>net http://home.earthlink.net/~jeverett3
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 13:01:22
From: AustinMN
Subject: Re: Oldest post on this group?
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John Everett wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:42:34 -0700, k Hickey <k@habcycles.com>
> wrote:
>
> >"Rex Kerr" <rexkerr@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>What's your oldest post on this group?
> >>
> >>Me? May 20, 03, the 1201st thread that Google groups has for this
> >>group. on the .tech group I started the 1941st thread.
> >>
> >>It's been a long time, and many miles!
> >
> >Dunno, but it was before this group WAS this group (back when it was
> >ALL just rec.bicycles.
>
> Same here, but I did find an article I posted to r.b.m on January 5,
> 1996.
>
> Did the "Great Split" happen January 1, 1996? For some reason I can't
> find any of my postings from earlier than that but it seems to me the
> split happened in the early '90s.
>
> The 1/5/96 post was three email addresses ago. It could be my postings
> from earlier was via an email address I've long forgotten.
>
>
> jeverett3<AT>earthlink<DOT>net http://home.earthlink.net/~jeverett3
Google's first post to r.b.m was on Tues, Aug 25 1992 11:31 am (don't
know the time zone). Based on the context of that thread, it was in
the first hours (or days) of the split.
Not much has changed; that thread *immediately* went off-topic.
Austin
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 10:31:48
From:
Subject: Re: Oldest post on this group?
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In article <1166565210.116916.62980@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com >,
rexkerr@gmail.com says...
> What's your oldest post on this group?
Don't know for sure, but a quick Google search shows me in a Presta vs.
Schrader debate on Feb 20 1991 in rec.bicycles, before the great split.
Has that one been settled yet? ;-)
--
josh@phred.org is Joshua Putnam
<http://www.phred.org/~josh/ >
Braze your own bicycle frames. See
<http://www.phred.org/~josh/build/build.html >
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 09:47:43
From: AustinMN
Subject: Re: Oldest post on this group?
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Bill wrote:
> Nodey wrote:
> > Bill <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote in
> > news:1L1ih.544$ZT3.541@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com:
> >
> >> So basically everything ever posted is on Google or on a government
> >> server somewhere.
> >
> > You can always add X-No-Archive to the headers for google not to archive
> > you. Obviously, any secret government Usenet-caches can still save
> > everything you ever write, but at least it will never appear on google
> > groups.
> >
> > (Which may not be desirable if most of the readers of a group are google
> > users, but you have the reassurance that what you write won't come back to
> > haunt you. Unless it's the government.)
> >
> Kind of what I was alluding to, the 'Big Brother' thing that is now
> coming all too true since 9/11. Sacramento is in the middle of a big
> commotion over the police installing people watching cameras around
> town, to 'control crime'. The book '1984' was right on except for the
> year, but now the government has the technology. Creepy.
> Bill Baka
Do these cameras also do "cop watching," or do the tapes seem to
mysteriously disappear when something questionable happens?
Austin
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 23:03:59
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Oldest post on this group?
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AustinMN wrote:
> Bill wrote:
>> Nodey wrote:
>>> Bill <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote in
>>> news:1L1ih.544$ZT3.541@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com:
>>>
>>>> So basically everything ever posted is on Google or on a government
>>>> server somewhere.
>>> You can always add X-No-Archive to the headers for google not to archive
>>> you. Obviously, any secret government Usenet-caches can still save
>>> everything you ever write, but at least it will never appear on google
>>> groups.
>>>
>>> (Which may not be desirable if most of the readers of a group are google
>>> users, but you have the reassurance that what you write won't come back to
>>> haunt you. Unless it's the government.)
>>>
>> Kind of what I was alluding to, the 'Big Brother' thing that is now
>> coming all too true since 9/11. Sacramento is in the middle of a big
>> commotion over the police installing people watching cameras around
>> town, to 'control crime'. The book '1984' was right on except for the
>> year, but now the government has the technology. Creepy.
>> Bill Baka
>
> Do these cameras also do "cop watching," or do the tapes seem to
> mysteriously disappear when something questionable happens?
>
> Austin
>
If the cops are running the cameras, you know the answer.
They showed that they can zoom in really close up for the babes.
Since they can point straight down, the women might not like that
feature too much in the summer when it gets interesting for us guys.
Bill Baka
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 06:42:39
From: AustinMN
Subject: Re: Oldest post on this group?
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Rex Kerr wrote:
> What's your oldest post on this group?
>
> Me? May 20, 03, the 1201st thread that Google groups has for this
> group. on the .tech group I started the 1941st thread.
>
> It's been a long time, and many miles!
October 31, 2001, under the nick AustinBoston. I'd been lurking for a
long time before then.
Austin
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 06:32:26
From: AustinMN
Subject: Re: Oldest post on this group?
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Nodey wrote:
> Bill <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote in
> news:1L1ih.544$ZT3.541@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com:
>
> > So basically everything ever posted is on Google or on a government
> > server somewhere.
>
> You can always add X-No-Archive to the headers for google not to archive
> you. Obviously, any secret government Usenet-caches can still save
> everything you ever write, but at least it will never appear on google
> groups.
>
> (Which may not be desirable if most of the readers of a group are google
> users, but you have the reassurance that what you write won't come back to
> haunt you. Unless it's the government.)
>
> --
> Nodey
Or somebody quotes your entire post without the X-No-Archive header.
Austin
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 01:30:18
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: Oldest post on this group?
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In article <dr2ho2lqon74kpobcqvoj1ra075q5n09es@4ax.com >,
Zoot Katz <zootkatz@operamail.com > writes:
> On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 16:54:51 -0800,
> Dane Buson <dane@unseen.edu> wrote:
>
>>
>>About June 2002, which sounds about right.
>>
>>/me raises a glass to those who post no more
>
> Here's a hardy, hearty toast of cognac to Eric S. Sande
~clink~
And to David Reutler, and that Floridian fire-fighter guy
from back then.
And, hell, to everybody.
I wouldn't mind chattin' face-to-face with Wayne Pein.
I'll buy the tapas baked oysters con queso, and he can
cover the jug(s) of sangria. Aw, what the heck. I can
be a fair-minded chipper-inner (when I've actually got
money.) The chicks like lene and Veloise and ian
and all the others would be nice to meet & dance with &
trade smiles with, too.
Sagittarian cheers,
Tom
--
Nothing is safe from me.
Above address is just a spam midden.
I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 18:42:34
From: Mark Hickey
Subject: Re: Oldest post on this group?
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"Rex Kerr" <rexkerr@gmail.com > wrote:
>What's your oldest post on this group?
>
>Me? May 20, 03, the 1201st thread that Google groups has for this
>group. on the .tech group I started the 1941st thread.
>
>It's been a long time, and many miles!
Dunno, but it was before this group WAS this group (back when it was
ALL just rec.bicycles.
k Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $795 ti frame
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 16:35:23
From: John Everett
Subject: Re: Oldest post on this group?
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On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 18:42:34 -0700, k Hickey <k@habcycles.com >
wrote:
>"Rex Kerr" <rexkerr@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>What's your oldest post on this group?
>>
>>Me? May 20, 03, the 1201st thread that Google groups has for this
>>group. on the .tech group I started the 1941st thread.
>>
>>It's been a long time, and many miles!
>
>Dunno, but it was before this group WAS this group (back when it was
>ALL just rec.bicycles.
Same here, but I did find an article I posted to r.b.m on January 5,
1996.
Did the "Great Split" happen January 1, 1996? For some reason I can't
find any of my postings from earlier than that but it seems to me the
split happened in the early '90s.
The 1/5/96 post was three email addresses ago. It could be my postings
from earlier was via an email address I've long forgotten.
jeverett3<AT >earthlink<DOT>net http://home.earthlink.net/~jeverett3
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 20:09:08
From:
Subject: Re: Oldest post on this group?
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On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:35:23 GMT, John Everett
<jeverett3@earthlink.DEFEAT.UCE.BOTS.net > wrote:
>
>Did the "Great Split" happen January 1, 1996? For some reason I can't
>find any of my postings from earlier than that but it seems to me the
>split happened in the early '90s.
>
The "Great Renaming" took place in the late 80's, if it is that event
to which you are referring.
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 21:59:34
From: Kristian M Zoerhoff
Subject: Re: Oldest post on this group?
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In article <426jo2pkicpp9geacbnbbcphctquhgebn2@4ax.com >,
jtaylor@NOSPAM.hfx.andara.com says...
> On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 16:35:23 GMT, John Everett
> <jeverett3@earthlink.DEFEAT.UCE.BOTS.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >Did the "Great Split" happen January 1, 1996? For some reason I can't
> >find any of my postings from earlier than that but it seems to me the
> >split happened in the early '90s.
> >
>
> The "Great Renaming" took place in the late 80's, if it is that event
> to which you are referring.
That was the renaming of net.bicycle to rec.bicycles as part of the creation of
the Big 7 hierarchies, right? That would then be a separate event from the
Great Split of rec.bicycles into its current component groups.
--
__o Kristian Zoerhoff
_'\(,_ kristian.zoerhoff@gmail.com
(_)/ (_)
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 16:54:51
From: Dane Buson
Subject: Re: Oldest post on this group?
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Rex Kerr <rexkerr@gmail.com > wrote:
> What's your oldest post on this group?
>
> Me? May 20, 03, the 1201st thread that Google groups has for this
> group. on the .tech group I started the 1941st thread.
>
> It's been a long time, and many miles!
About June 2002, which sounds about right.
/me raises a glass to those who post no more
Ken, your website lives on in memorial.
Mr. Onanian, was it Claire's comment about your legs? [0]
Luigi, I hope you manage to get on the bike some more come summer. [1]
Eldred, I hope you kept on the bike, or at least kept off the weight.
Gentlepeople, a toast to those no longer present.
[0] Just kidding Claire.
[1] And one of these days I'll track down your address and send you that
wheel + barcons.
--
Dane Buson - sigdane@unixbigots.org
"From empirical experience, your Exchange admin needs to put down the crack
pipe and open a window to disperse the fumes." -- Joe Thompson, ASR
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 17:32:11
From: Zoot Katz
Subject: Re: Oldest post on this group?
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On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 16:54:51 -0800,
Dane Buson <dane@unseen.edu > wrote:
>
>About June 2002, which sounds about right.
>
>/me raises a glass to those who post no more
Here's a hardy, hearty toast of cognac to Eric S. Sande who was the
first person that responded to my post. It was in a thread about
finding stuff on the road. I'd found big gee god on Jackass Mountain.
That was around August 2000 and I was vehemently anti-Critical Mass.
My five years usenet experience to that point had been in groups
where anonymity is valued so I was using the X-NoArchive field and a
ROT13 address until October, 2000.
Times change but Peter, David, Frank, Mike, Mike, Matt, k and Bob
are still here. There are others too whose names go way back. I think
I passed Joh Issacs sometime last year for total number of posts.
This year I'm pretty far back in the pack.
http://netscan.research.microsoft.com/reportcard.aspx?tp=14&sd=12/12/2006&ng=rec.bicycles.misc
--
zk
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 19:46:16
From: Rich Clark
Subject: Re: Oldest post on this group?
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"Rex Kerr" <rexkerr@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1166565210.116916.62980@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
> What's your oldest post on this group?
>
> Me? May 20, 03, the 1201st thread that Google groups has for this
> group. on the .tech group I started the 1941st thread.
>
> It's been a long time, and many miles!
Oct 4 1999.
Don't have much time or patience for Usenet anymore, though.
RichC
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 01:15:12
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Oldest post on this group?
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Rich Clark wrote:
> "Rex Kerr" <rexkerr@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1166565210.116916.62980@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
>> What's your oldest post on this group?
>>
>> Me? May 20, 03, the 1201st thread that Google groups has for this
>> group. on the .tech group I started the 1941st thread.
>>
>> It's been a long time, and many miles!
>
> Oct 4 1999.
>
> Don't have much time or patience for Usenet anymore, though.
>
> RichC
>
>
I don't know about this group in particular but Google has a
conversation I had way back in 1996 about a sand particle hitting the
space shuttle at 150,000 MPH and what might happen. They must have 100's
of Petabytes of stuff stored up by now, but why?
Bill Baka
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 17:45:41
From: Diablo Scott
Subject: Re: Oldest post on this group?
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Bill wrote:
> Rich Clark wrote:
>> "Rex Kerr" <rexkerr@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1166565210.116916.62980@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
>>> What's your oldest post on this group?
>>>
>>> Me? May 20, 03, the 1201st thread that Google groups has for this
>>> group. on the .tech group I started the 1941st thread.
>>>
>>> It's been a long time, and many miles!
>>
>> Oct 4 1999.
>>
>> Don't have much time or patience for Usenet anymore, though.
>>
>> RichC
>>
> I don't know about this group in particular but Google has a
> conversation I had way back in 1996 about a sand particle hitting the
> space shuttle at 150,000 MPH and what might happen. They must have 100's
> of Petabytes of stuff stored up by now, but why?
> Bill Baka
Me in RBM: May 2003.
And Google also has one of my 1996 usenet posts to a homebrewing group
arguing about the effects of late hop addition (analogous to helmet
threads here).
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 10:30:48
From: D Wells
Subject: Re: Oldest post on this group?
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On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 17:45:41 -0800, Diablo Scott
<DiabloScottNOSPAM@terra.es > wrote:
>Bill wrote:
>> Rich Clark wrote:
>>> "Rex Kerr" <rexkerr@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1166565210.116916.62980@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
>>>> What's your oldest post on this group?
>>>>
>>>> Me? May 20, 03, the 1201st thread that Google groups has for this
>>>> group. on the .tech group I started the 1941st thread.
>>>>
>>>> It's been a long time, and many miles!
>>>
>>> Oct 4 1999.
>>>
>>> Don't have much time or patience for Usenet anymore, though.
>>>
>>> RichC
>>>
>> I don't know about this group in particular but Google has a
>> conversation I had way back in 1996 about a sand particle hitting the
>> space shuttle at 150,000 MPH and what might happen. They must have 100's
>> of Petabytes of stuff stored up by now, but why?
>> Bill Baka
>
>
>Me in RBM: May 2003.
>
>And Google also has one of my 1996 usenet posts to a homebrewing group
>arguing about the effects of late hop addition (analogous to helmet
>threads here).
My first Usenet post was Oct 23, 1996 ... in alt.beer.
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 19:04:20
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Oldest post on this group?
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Diablo Scott wrote:
> Bill wrote:
>> Rich Clark wrote:
>>> "Rex Kerr" <rexkerr@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1166565210.116916.62980@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
>>>> What's your oldest post on this group?
>>>>
>>>> Me? May 20, 03, the 1201st thread that Google groups has for this
>>>> group. on the .tech group I started the 1941st thread.
>>>>
>>>> It's been a long time, and many miles!
>>>
>>> Oct 4 1999.
>>>
>>> Don't have much time or patience for Usenet anymore, though.
>>>
>>> RichC
>>>
>> I don't know about this group in particular but Google has a
>> conversation I had way back in 1996 about a sand particle hitting the
>> space shuttle at 150,000 MPH and what might happen. They must have
>> 100's of Petabytes of stuff stored up by now, but why?
>> Bill Baka
>
>
> Me in RBM: May 2003.
>
> And Google also has one of my 1996 usenet posts to a homebrewing group
> arguing about the effects of late hop addition (analogous to helmet
> threads here).
So basically everything ever posted is on Google or on a government
server somewhere. Isn't 1996 pre-Google? That would indicate they got
their stuff from somewhere else or that big brother has been recording
all along.
Hmmmm????
I would have been interested in the home brew back then but I quit that
stuff about 3 years ago. Those Samuel Adams commercials still make me drool.
<sigh, again >
Bill Baka
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 04:55:54
From: Nodey
Subject: Re: Oldest post on this group?
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Bill <bbaka@comcast.net > wrote in
news:1L1ih.544$ZT3.541@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com:
> So basically everything ever posted is on Google or on a government
> server somewhere.
You can always add X-No-Archive to the headers for google not to archive
you. Obviously, any secret government Usenet-caches can still save
everything you ever write, but at least it will never appear on google
groups.
(Which may not be desirable if most of the readers of a group are google
users, but you have the reassurance that what you write won't come back to
haunt you. Unless it's the government.)
--
Nodey
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 07:03:11
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Oldest post on this group?
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Nodey wrote:
> Bill <bbaka@comcast.net> wrote in
> news:1L1ih.544$ZT3.541@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com:
>
>> So basically everything ever posted is on Google or on a government
>> server somewhere.
>
> You can always add X-No-Archive to the headers for google not to archive
> you. Obviously, any secret government Usenet-caches can still save
> everything you ever write, but at least it will never appear on google
> groups.
>
> (Which may not be desirable if most of the readers of a group are google
> users, but you have the reassurance that what you write won't come back to
> haunt you. Unless it's the government.)
>
Kind of what I was alluding to, the 'Big Brother' thing that is now
coming all too true since 9/11. Sacramento is in the middle of a big
commotion over the police installing people watching cameras around
town, to 'control crime'. The book '1984' was right on except for the
year, but now the government has the technology. Creepy.
Bill Baka
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 03:11:12
From: Kristian M Zoerhoff
Subject: Re: Oldest post on this group?
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In article <1L1ih.544$ZT3.541@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com >, bbaka@comcast.net
says...
>
> So basically everything ever posted is on Google or on a government
> server somewhere. Isn't 1996 pre-Google? That would indicate they got
> their stuff from somewhere else or that big brother has been recording
> all along.
> Hmmmm????
Google bought DejaNews, which had archives going back further.
--
__o Kristian Zoerhoff
_'\(,_ kristian.zoerhoff@gmail.com
(_)/ (_)
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