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Date: 24 Aug 2006 22:01:21
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Subject: OnGuard Bike Lock Anti-Theft-Warranty: What a Sam!
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I just bought an OnGuard bike lock that promised
a $1251 "Anti-Theft Protection Offer" on the outside
of the box. "(details inside)"
Inside is only a little note with the OnGuard webpage
address, no details.
Once you buy the thing and go home to register
your lock on line, you find out about the 'details':
- The anti-theft-warranty lasts only one year.
- They will not pay if "Torches, battery operated
tools or power tools were used to open the lock"
- They will pay "if your vehicle is stolen because your
OnGuard lock was broken or opened by force"
So that excludes picking the "pick resistant, over
30,000 key variations lock", with a bic pen or similar?
WHAT A SCAM!
Oh, and I forgot:
- If your bike gets stolen, you have to submit your broken
OnGuard lock within seven (7) days by certified mail to them.
If the thieve takes the lock, bad luck.
A very limited warranty, indeed.
(My last bike _was_ locked to a solid post, when it was
stolen, the tieves took the broken lock, too.)
SCAM, SCAM, SCAM, SCAM, SCAM.
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Date: 26 Aug 2006 06:40:01
From: NanC
Subject: Re: OnGuard Bike Lock Anti-Theft-Warranty: What a Sam!
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> - If your bike gets stolen, you have to submit your broken
> OnGuard lock within seven (7) days by certified mail to them.
>
In other words it is just like the rebate scams.
You surrender the evidence, and mail it to them.
They discard it and forget it.
Ever notice the rebates all need the ORIGINAL label, no photocopies?
Same thing..just TOO cute.
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 23:30:55
From: firecow
Subject: Re: OnGuard Bike Lock Anti-Theft-Warranty: What a Sam!
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simple solution engrave on the lock " theft of this vehicle dose not
include the lock "
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 10:14:36
From: nash
Subject: Re: OnGuard Bike Lock Anti-Theft-Warranty: What a Sam!
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you might want to know this then,
Kryptonite Evolution 2000 U- Lock hacked by a Bic pen - Engadget
http://www.engadget.com/2004/09/14/kryptonite-evolution-2000-u-lock-hacked-by-a-bic-pen/
The video was not working when I got there but the posts are good
enough.
I have a Krypto New Yorker. Their guarantee is pretty good but not if
the lock is gone.
I rely on it being pick proof and too hard to tamper with while people
are about constantly.
Although in NYC that would probably not save me.
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 15:26:10
From: Claire Petersky
Subject: Re: OnGuard Bike Lock Anti-Theft-Warranty: What a Sam!
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Looking over my shoulder, my husband asked, "what's a Sam?" I said, "I
haven't even opened the thread yet -- it must be some sort of bike lingo I
don't know about."
--
Warm Regards,
Claire Petersky
http://www.bicyclemeditations.org/
See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 14:40:39
From: Beav
Subject: Re: OnGuard Bike Lock Anti-Theft-Warranty: What a Sam!
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<Chris_MdR@gmx.net > wrote in message
news:1156482081.476749.318280@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>I just bought an OnGuard bike lock that promised
> a $1251 "Anti-Theft Protection Offer" on the outside
> of the box. "(details inside)"
>
> Inside is only a little note with the OnGuard webpage
> address, no details.
> Once you buy the thing and go home to register
> your lock on line, you find out about the 'details':
>
> - The anti-theft-warranty lasts only one year.
>
> - They will not pay if "Torches, battery operated
> tools or power tools were used to open the lock"
>
> - They will pay "if your vehicle is stolen because your
> OnGuard lock was broken or opened by force"
> So that excludes picking the "pick resistant, over
> 30,000 key variations lock", with a bic pen or similar?
>
> WHAT A SCAM!
>
> Oh, and I forgot:
>
> - If your bike gets stolen, you have to submit your broken
> OnGuard lock within seven (7) days by certified mail to them.
>
> If the thieve takes the lock, bad luck.
> A very limited warranty, indeed.
>
> (My last bike _was_ locked to a solid post, when it was
> stolen, the tieves took the broken lock, too.)
>
> SCAM, SCAM, SCAM, SCAM, SCAM.
For some reason, you seem surprised. I can't think why in this day and age.
--
Beav
VN 750
Zed 1000
OMF# 19
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 06:31:24
From: Kenny
Subject: Re: OnGuard Bike Lock Anti-Theft-Warranty: What a Sam!
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People should just wise up. If you commute by bike and cannot park your
bike in a secure location such as an office or guarded garage, you
shouldn't be riding anything nice and or expensive. Nowadays commuters
with a street value of around 100 bucks is considered nice. 125 bucks
for a lock? Sorry dude. If that lock were on my commuter they'd
probably steal my bike just to get the lock. My commuter has a used
street value of around 30 dollars. I still lock it with a cheap-o cable
lock that the LBS threw in as part of my 60 dollar new bike purchase,
but that's only to thwart thieves of opportunity. Just my two cents.
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 11:19:40
From: dgk
Subject: Re: OnGuard Bike Lock Anti-Theft-Warranty: What a Sam!
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On 25 Aug 2006 06:31:24 -0700, "Kenny" <Postoasted@gmail.com > wrote:
>People should just wise up. If you commute by bike and cannot park your
>bike in a secure location such as an office or guarded garage, you
>shouldn't be riding anything nice and or expensive. Nowadays commuters
>with a street value of around 100 bucks is considered nice. 125 bucks
>for a lock? Sorry dude. If that lock were on my commuter they'd
>probably steal my bike just to get the lock. My commuter has a used
>street value of around 30 dollars. I still lock it with a cheap-o cable
>lock that the LBS threw in as part of my 60 dollar new bike purchase,
>but that's only to thwart thieves of opportunity. Just my two cents.
You mean that I should bike 30 miles a day on a piece of shit? Does
that make sense?
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 05:48:39
From: Diablo Scott
Subject: Re: OnGuard Bike Lock Anti-Theft-Warranty: What a Sam!
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Chris_MdR@gmx.net wrote:
>
> SCAM, SCAM, SCAM, SCAM, SCAM.
>
That guarantee is pretty much the same as the other lock manufacturers
offer - they're all to blame for deceptive keting.
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Date: 24 Aug 2006 22:57:08
From: raleighist
Subject: Re: OnGuard Bike Lock Anti-Theft-Warranty: What a Sam!
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Here in NYC, no bike lock guarantee applies. It's a shame that's not
the case for you, then you'd actually be inclined to get the best lock
value: I have an On-Guard mini-U, and it's design surpasses Krypto's
Evo-mini while it costs about $20 less.
Good luck with the perfect lock search. Mine took almost a year.
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 07:32:34
From: Paul Hobson
Subject: Re: OnGuard Bike Lock Anti-Theft-Warranty: What a Sam!
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raleighist wrote:
> Here in NYC, no bike lock guarantee applies. It's a shame that's not
> the case for you, then you'd actually be inclined to get the best lock
> value: I have an On-Guard mini-U, and it's design surpasses Krypto's
> Evo-mini while it costs about $20 less.
In what ways does OG's mini[1] surpass Krypto's[2]?
[1] This one? http://www.onguardlock.com/ulocks.html
Or this one? http://www.onguardlock.com/pitbull.html
[2] This one? http://tinyurl.com/34vy6
\\paul
--
Paul M. Hobson
Georgia Institute of Technology
.:change the f to ph to reply:.
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Date: 24 Aug 2006 22:37:03
From: BroTHeR zAcHaRy
Subject: Re: OnGuard Bike Lock Anti-Theft-Warranty: What a Sam!
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Fred wrote:
> <Chris_MdR@gmx.net> wrote in message
> news:1156482081.476749.318280@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >I just bought an OnGuard bike lock that promised
> > a $1251 "Anti-Theft Protection Offer" on the outside
> > of the box. "(details inside)"
> >
> > - If your bike gets stolen, you have to submit your broken
> > OnGuard lock within seven (7) days by certified mail to them.
> >
> > If the thieve takes the lock, bad luck.
> > A very limited warranty, indeed.
> >
> > (My last bike _was_ locked to a solid post, when it was
> > stolen, the tieves took the broken lock, too.)
> >
> > SCAM, SCAM, SCAM, SCAM, SCAM.
>
> I'd take it back and demand a refund on principal - even if it looks like
> the best lock on the entire planet.
Yes. Much better to leave the bike unlocked, and far raise its chances
of being stolen, rather than being made a fool of by the lock company.
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 17:32:45
From: Fred
Subject: Re: OnGuard Bike Lock Anti-Theft-Warranty: What a Sam!
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<Chris_MdR@gmx.net > wrote in message
news:1156482081.476749.318280@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>I just bought an OnGuard bike lock that promised
> a $1251 "Anti-Theft Protection Offer" on the outside
> of the box. "(details inside)"
>
> Inside is only a little note with the OnGuard webpage
> address, no details.
> Once you buy the thing and go home to register
> your lock on line, you find out about the 'details':
>
> - The anti-theft-warranty lasts only one year.
>
> - They will not pay if "Torches, battery operated
> tools or power tools were used to open the lock"
>
> - They will pay "if your vehicle is stolen because your
> OnGuard lock was broken or opened by force"
> So that excludes picking the "pick resistant, over
> 30,000 key variations lock", with a bic pen or similar?
>
> WHAT A SCAM!
>
> Oh, and I forgot:
>
> - If your bike gets stolen, you have to submit your broken
> OnGuard lock within seven (7) days by certified mail to them.
>
> If the thieve takes the lock, bad luck.
> A very limited warranty, indeed.
>
> (My last bike _was_ locked to a solid post, when it was
> stolen, the tieves took the broken lock, too.)
>
> SCAM, SCAM, SCAM, SCAM, SCAM.
I'd take it back and demand a refund on principal - even if it looks like
the best lock on the entire planet.
>
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 22:16:37
From: Robert Bolton
Subject: Re: OnGuard Bike Lock Anti-Theft-Warranty: What a Sam!
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"Fred" <fred@parachute.uk.master > wrote in message
news:44ee8b80$1@clear.net.nz...
>
> <Chris_MdR@gmx.net> wrote in message
> news:1156482081.476749.318280@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>I just bought an OnGuard bike lock that promised
>> a $1251 "Anti-Theft Protection Offer" on the outside
>> of the box. "(details inside)"
>>
>> Inside is only a little note with the OnGuard webpage
>> address, no details.
>> Once you buy the thing and go home to register
>> your lock on line, you find out about the 'details':
>>
>> - The anti-theft-warranty lasts only one year.
>>
>> - They will not pay if "Torches, battery operated
>> tools or power tools were used to open the lock"
>>
>> - They will pay "if your vehicle is stolen because your
>> OnGuard lock was broken or opened by force"
>> So that excludes picking the "pick resistant, over
>> 30,000 key variations lock", with a bic pen or similar?
>>
>> WHAT A SCAM!
>>
>> Oh, and I forgot:
>>
>> - If your bike gets stolen, you have to submit your broken
>> OnGuard lock within seven (7) days by certified mail to them.
>>
>> If the thieve takes the lock, bad luck.
>> A very limited warranty, indeed.
>>
Sounds like you have to buy two locks at a time then. Should your bike get
stolen you present the remaining lock, broken of course.
Robert
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