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Date: 27 Jun 2007 12:15:11
From: catzz66
Subject: Performance Bikes
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There is a new Performance store moving in right across the freeway from
my office. Should I be happy?
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Date: 30 Jun 2007 12:20:14
From: Burr
Subject: Re: Performance Bikes
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catzz66 wrote:
> There is a new Performance store moving in right across the freeway from
> my office. Should I be happy?
I like the small guy stores. They will order what I want,
they will beat or match the price of the catalog and I like
having a "bike guy/woman" to talk with.
Helps me keep my bike fine tuned.
Some of the big things like oil trainer and work rack I got
from mail order but most of the small stuff from the corner
shop.
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Date: 28 Jun 2007 19:43:32
From: victor.kan@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Performance Bikes
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On Jun 28, 3:29 pm, "Roger Zoul" <rogerzo...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> Performance seems to be cycling specific, REI isn't. It seems much harder
> to get as good a deal at REI vs. Performance, on the whole.. Does REI have
> a 100% satisfaction guarantee?
Yes, it does. REI's membership is also a lifetime thing for what,
like $15, while Team Performance is annual. The rebate you get back
from REI each year is comparable to the Team Performance points, but
better in that with REI's, you can get it back as cash if you wait a
while.
REI's prices on bike stuff tends to be comparable or higher than
Performance, but they occasionally have good sales, and their outlet
web site often has great deals on stuff I actually want to buy.
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Date: 27 Jun 2007 20:35:52
From: Patrick Lamb
Subject: Re: Performance Bikes
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On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 12:15:11 -0500, catzz66
<catzz66@threeletterservice.com > wrote:
>There is a new Performance store moving in right across the freeway from
>my office. Should I be happy?
I think I'd rather have an REI move into town, since they usually have
more stuff I'm interested in. Performance, I'm happy to have mail
order; no sales tax, selection in the catalog and web site is good
enough, I know what size clothes I need.
Somebody here mentioned they were on their fifth or sixth tire pump
from Performance. If I'd bought one of those, I'd be happy to be able
to easily return it when it broke. But for tools and components, I'm
more likely to go name brand than house brand.
Pat
Email address works as is.
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Date: 28 Jun 2007 12:07:16
From: catzz66
Subject: Re: Performance Bikes
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Patrick Lamb wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 12:15:11 -0500, catzz66
> <catzz66@threeletterservice.com> wrote:
>
>>There is a new Performance store moving in right across the freeway from
>>my office. Should I be happy?
>
>
> I think I'd rather have an REI move into town, since they usually have
> more stuff I'm interested in. Performance, I'm happy to have mail
> order; no sales tax, selection in the catalog and web site is good
> enough, I know what size clothes I need.
>
We have a fair sized REI. They only have one rack of bikes on display,
a limited amount of clothing, gloves and other types of supplies nearby.
It would not be my first choice if I needed anything for my bikes. I
like REI and am a member, but ours is mostly camping stuff.
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Date: 28 Jun 2007 22:05:37
From: Patrick Lamb
Subject: Re: Performance Bikes
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On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 12:07:16 -0500, catzz66
<catzz66@threeletterservice.com > wrote:
>Patrick Lamb wrote:
>>
>> I think I'd rather have an REI move into town, since they usually have
>> more stuff I'm interested in. Performance, I'm happy to have mail
>> order; no sales tax, selection in the catalog and web site is good
>> enough, I know what size clothes I need.
>>
>
>We have a fair sized REI. They only have one rack of bikes on display,
>a limited amount of clothing, gloves and other types of supplies nearby.
> It would not be my first choice if I needed anything for my bikes. I
>like REI and am a member, but ours is mostly camping stuff.
Any and all these responses naturally need to be prefaced with "YMMV."
But for me, I want a limited number of bike things; tubes, tires
(which I've only once seen the size I wanted at an REI, and never at
Performance), chains, clothes, and lights. I like Performance house
brand tops, but I can mail order those. I can't stay in a bike shop,
shopping, for more than 30 minutes or so.
But when I just want to go shopping, REI has so much more to browse
through, and look at. Bike stuff. Not too much, so move on to
camping stuff. Electronic toys. Clothes I can wear for other things,
like hiking, goofing off, etc.
Of course, that sort of shopping usually costs me. Maybe it's a good
thing the nearest REI is two hours away!
Pat
Email address works as is.
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Date: 29 Jun 2007 02:45:12
From: Claire Petersky
Subject: Re: Performance Bikes
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"catzz66" <catzz66@threeletterservice.com > wrote in message
news:5ei865F38mqttU1@mid.individual.net...
> We have a fair sized REI. They only have one rack of bikes on display, a
> limited amount of clothing, gloves and other types of supplies nearby. It
> would not be my first choice if I needed anything for my bikes. I like
> REI and am a member, but ours is mostly camping stuff.
Huh, our REI has a huge bike section, with as much floor space for bikes and
related as the local Performance has for its store. Then again, it's also a
fairly big REI to begin with.
--
Warm Regards,
Claire Petersky
http://www.bicyclemeditations.org/
See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky
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Date: 28 Jun 2007 15:29:55
From: Roger Zoul
Subject: Re: Performance Bikes
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catzz66 wrote:
:: Patrick Lamb wrote:
::: On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 12:15:11 -0500, catzz66
::: <catzz66@threeletterservice.com > wrote:
:::
:::: There is a new Performance store moving in right across the
:::: freeway from my office. Should I be happy?
:::
:::
::: I think I'd rather have an REI move into town, since they usually
::: have more stuff I'm interested in. Performance, I'm happy to have
::: mail order; no sales tax, selection in the catalog and web site is
::: good enough, I know what size clothes I need.
:::
::
:: We have a fair sized REI. They only have one rack of bikes on
:: display, a limited amount of clothing, gloves and other types of
:: supplies nearby. It would not be my first choice if I needed
:: anything for my bikes. I like REI and am a member, but ours is
:: mostly camping stuff.
Performance seems to be cycling specific, REI isn't. It seems much harder
to get as good a deal at REI vs. Performance, on the whole.. Does REI have
a 100% satisfaction guarantee?
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Date: 29 Jun 2007 02:47:22
From: Claire Petersky
Subject: Re: Performance Bikes
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"Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:138831lo9mqst48@news.supernews.com...
> Does REI have a 100% satisfaction guarantee?
Yes. In fact, when we've brought floor pumps there (when they've had some
length of use, but not as long as we think was reasonable), they've given us
a discount on a replacement. I think this is more than most places would do.
--
Warm Regards,
Claire Petersky
http://www.bicyclemeditations.org/
See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky
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Date: 28 Jun 2007 06:26:07
From: Grand Poobah
Subject: Re: Performance Bikes
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Absolutely right, Pat:
I buy virtually everything (over $50) on line. Except for things that need
to be tried on for size, like jerseys:
http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?SKU=22763&subcategory_ID=1110
Nihilist Bike Commuter Jay
"Patrick Lamb" <pdl678NOSPAM@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:6t368314vltb973odh7mg12nm1jg1n573j@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 12:15:11 -0500, catzz66
> <catzz66@threeletterservice.com> wrote:
>>There is a new Performance store moving in right across the freeway from
>>my office. Should I be happy?
>
> I think I'd rather have an REI move into town, since they usually have
> more stuff I'm interested in. Performance, I'm happy to have mail
> order; no sales tax, selection in the catalog and web site is good
> enough, I know what size clothes I need.
>
> Somebody here mentioned they were on their fifth or sixth tire pump
> from Performance. If I'd bought one of those, I'd be happy to be able
> to easily return it when it broke. But for tools and components, I'm
> more likely to go name brand than house brand.
>
> Pat
>
> Email address works as is.
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Date: 27 Jun 2007 20:41:12
From: David L. Johnson
Subject: Re: Performance Bikes
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catzz66 wrote:
> There is a new Performance store moving in right across the freeway from
> my office. Should I be happy?
I like some of their things, such as their century shorts. "name" brand
shorts are going for astronomical prices these days, and since you need
to change them every few days, you need more than one pair...
--
David L. Johnson
And what if you track down these men and kill them, what if you killed
all of us? From every corner of Europe, hundreds, thousands would
rise up to take our places. Even Nazis can't kill that fast.
-- Paul Henreid (Casablanca).
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Date: 27 Jun 2007 16:57:23
From: Grand Poobah
Subject: Re: Performance Bikes
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"catzz66" <catzz66@threeletterservice.com > wrote in message
news:5efk8vF38skdiU2@mid.individual.net...
> There is a new Performance store moving in right across the freeway from
> my office. Should I be happy?
I have been buying stuff from them online, and have been satisfied. They
have a retail store on Halsted St in Chicago, which I have visited a couple
times. It is well out of my way. I don't know about their repairs.
They are opening a new store one mile from my house in Schaumburg. It is
nice to touch and feel some things before purchase. And things like jerseys
need to be tried on for size before purchase.
Performance Bike must be doing something right, because they are opening
quite a few new stores. They do have a great website.
The best bike shop in Chicago, by far, for repairs and mechanical advice, is
in Wicker Park http://www.rapidtransitcycles.com/ . I have been delighted
with their wheel builds and troubleshooting.
Bike Commuter Jay
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Date: 27 Jun 2007 21:39:41
From: Luigi de Guzman
Subject: Re: Performance Bikes
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On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 13:43:33 -0700, Dane Buson wrote:
> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>> My sister-in-law bought two bikes there and was happy with them. I
>> tried to get her to go to the nearby LBS, and she would have gone
>> there, but it was Sunday, the LBS was closed, and she wanted the bikes
>> that day.
>
> I've always wondered about bike shops that are closed on Sundays. I
> knew of one with those hours. Of course they closed a couple years
> ago...
My LBS is closed Mondays; the rest of the week, they open around 2 in
the afternoon and close around 8. Not as bad as you might think: they
get the after-work/after-class crowd, which is pretty much right in this
town.
The owner wants to open earlier, but his main problem is that he's
short-handed. Seems to be a shortage of good bike mechanics in our area.
-Luigi
--
Luigi de Guzman
http://ouij.livejournal.com
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Date: 27 Jun 2007 13:51:41
From: gds
Subject: Re: Performance Bikes
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On Jun 27, 1:43 pm, Dane Buson <d...@unseen.edu > wrote:
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> I've always wondered about bike shops that are closed on Sundays. I
> knew of one with those hours. Of course they closed a couple years
> ago...
>
Most LBS's I know are closed on Sunday. It is a simple problem that
is common to all small business. the total volume doesn not allow them
to have enough staff to work 7 days a week.
Most shops here are open 10-6 on M-F and 10-5 on Saturdays. That is 47
hours. Usually the owner is around for all of that time. Many of the
owners are also avid cyclists. That starts to be a very long week.
Larger shops, like Performance have enough staffing to have shifts so
that a store could be open 60 hours per week but not have any staff
working more than 40 hours.
You really see how this hits the smaller retailers when you look at
shopping center leases. They often specify hours of operation and it
is a real struggle for a mom & pop shop to be open 10-9 M-F, 10-6 on
Sat and Sun which is what is often required. That is over 70 hours a
week and it is a real problme for smaller retailers.
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Date: 27 Jun 2007 16:47:20
From: Diablo Scott
Subject: Re: Performance Bikes
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gds wrote:
> On Jun 27, 1:43 pm, Dane Buson <d...@unseen.edu> wrote:
>> I've always wondered about bike shops that are closed on Sundays. I
>> knew of one with those hours. Of course they closed a couple years
>> ago...
>>
>
> Most LBS's I know are closed on Sunday. It is a simple problem that
> is common to all small business. the total volume doesn not allow them
> to have enough staff to work 7 days a week.
>
All the bike shops in my area are open on Sundays.
What I like about Performance is they have everything right there to
look at; chains for example - you can see the selection and the prices
and compare all ten versions and pick the one that makes the most sense
and take it to the cashier,,, instead of describing what you want to
somebody who then goes and picks one for you from a box in the back room.
I've heard them giving really stupid advice to customers though so I
won't trust them with anything important.
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Date: 27 Jun 2007 16:30:23
From: Dane Buson
Subject: Re: Performance Bikes
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gds <gary_jill@msn.com > wrote:
> On Jun 27, 1:43 pm, Dane Buson <d...@unseen.edu> wrote:
>>
>> I've always wondered about bike shops that are closed on Sundays. I
>> knew of one with those hours. Of course they closed a couple years
>> ago...
>
> Most LBS's I know are closed on Sunday. It is a simple problem that
> is common to all small business. the total volume doesn not allow them
> to have enough staff to work 7 days a week.
My favorite LBS has short hours (12-7 x 5 days a week) I believe. But
they're not closed on Sunday. They're closed on Monday and Tuesday.
Since I work a 9-5 M-F job, this is actually more convienent.
My point was that Sunday is often the busiest day of the week for bike
shops. Mainly because a lot of people are weekend riders, or take their
bike to the shop on the weekend. Sunday just seemed like the worst day
to be closed.
--
Dane Buson - sigdane@unixbigots.org
A bore is a man who talks so much about himself that you can't talk about
yourself.
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Date: 27 Jun 2007 11:40:47
From: SMS
Subject: Re: Performance Bikes
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catzz66 wrote:
> There is a new Performance store moving in right across the freeway from
> my office. Should I be happy?
It's a good place for accessories, tires, tubes, and clothing. In
general the prices are much lower than the LBS for these items. The big
plus is that they have long hours, and are open 7 days a week, so you
can get things after work when the LBS is usually closed. My
sister-in-law bought two bikes there and was happy with them. I tried to
get her to go to the nearby LBS, and she would have gone there, but it
was Sunday, the LBS was closed, and she wanted the bikes that day.
They do have some good deals on bikes from time to time, i.e. the recent
$400 commute bike.
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Date: 27 Jun 2007 13:43:33
From: Dane Buson
Subject: Re: Performance Bikes
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SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com > wrote:
> My sister-in-law bought two bikes there and was happy with them. I
> tried to get her to go to the nearby LBS, and she would have gone
> there, but it was Sunday, the LBS was closed, and she wanted the bikes
> that day.
I've always wondered about bike shops that are closed on Sundays. I
knew of one with those hours. Of course they closed a couple years
ago...
--
Dane Buson - sigdane@unixbigots.org
USENET would be a better laboratory is there were more labor and less oratory.
-- Elizabeth Haley
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Date: 28 Jun 2007 14:34:50
From: SMS
Subject: Re: Performance Bikes
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Dane Buson wrote:
> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>> My sister-in-law bought two bikes there and was happy with them. I
>> tried to get her to go to the nearby LBS, and she would have gone
>> there, but it was Sunday, the LBS was closed, and she wanted the bikes
>> that day.
>
> I've always wondered about bike shops that are closed on Sundays. I
> knew of one with those hours. Of course they closed a couple years
> ago...
Well the owner of the shop in question posts here regularly, and his
shop is doing well (I think). He has a second shop that is open on
Sunday, but it was too far away in this case. I presume that the shop
owners know if it's worth opening on Sunday or not, and if it's worth
staying open late or not. Obviously they are aware that they lose some
business by not being open when it's convenient for people to shop.
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Date: 27 Jun 2007 15:55:47
From: catzz66
Subject: Re: Performance Bikes
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Dane Buson wrote:
>
>
> I've always wondered about bike shops that are closed on Sundays. I
> knew of one with those hours. Of course they closed a couple years
> ago...
>
It does not bother me. Unless it was a real emergency, I would be out
on my bike instead of going to a store on Sunday, anyway. I always
assumed that was what the bike shop employees did, too.
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Date: 27 Jun 2007 18:05:35
From: Luigi de Guzman
Subject: Re: Performance Bikes
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On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 12:15:11 -0500, catzz66 wrote:
> There is a new Performance store moving in right across the freeway from
> my office. Should I be happy?
Maybe.
Performance can have pretty good deals every now and again, but I've found
it to be pretty variable in terms of service.
I bought my bike from Performance: I love it, but I pretty much sold it
to myself. (Research/introspection/the input of the awesome people here at
r.b.m.) They do free warrantee tuneups for life, which is nice if you can
get them. The only problem with me has been availability--the shop near
me is so slammed they actually turned me away when I rode in with a
warrantee tuneup job--no space.
Also, the knowledge of the shopdudes can be a bit spotty. I'll never
forget the reaction I got from them when I asked where they kept their
fenders. "Why would you want those?"
In general: Performance pitches to the "sport" and "daydream-sport" types
in its marketing.
Another bike shop has opened closer to me, and I'd rather deal with them
for service, since the owner and mechanic is more sympathetic to my
needs/goals.
-Luigi
--
Luigi de Guzman
http://ouij.livejournal.com
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Date: 27 Jun 2007 17:45:05
From: victor.kan@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Performance Bikes
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On Jun 27, 1:15 pm, catzz66 <catz...@threeletterservice.com > wrote:
> There is a new Performance store moving in right across the freeway from
> my office. Should I be happy?
I've been pleasantly surprised to find my local Performance store (and
a new one at that, not an old one with years/decades old stock on
hand) stocking something that's not in their catalog or web site, but
was exactly what I needed for a bike project (specifically I wanted a
high rise, short reach, 1" quill stem). The usual response from most
of the other local bike shops is "we don't have it, but we can order
it for you!", which in many ways is the worst of both worlds (the wait
of mail order, without the delivery convenience, but at LBS marked up
prices). There have been a few exceptions though where I took the LBS
up on their offer and things worked out well at comparable cost to
mail order.
If you buy stuff from them whether mail order or in-store, having one
close by is obviously convenient for returning stuff as needed rather
than having to pack it up and mail it back. If you're afraid of them
putting your favorite LBS out of business, I haven't seen it happen in
my area, where the LBS's within walking distance of Performance are
doing just fine. Those LBS's happen to be good shops. I suppose they
might drive bad shops out of business, but that's not much of a loss.
Unfortunately, the store doesn't have a lot of their catalog/web stuff
in stock, and you can't order by phone/web and have it delivered free
to the store (like you can with REI), though you can use their in-
store "red phone" to order such things without delivery charge, but
that's kinda inconvenient.
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Date: 27 Jun 2007 10:37:13
From: Ben Pfaff
Subject: Re: Performance Bikes
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catzz66 <catzz66@threeletterservice.com > writes:
> There is a new Performance store moving in right across the freeway
> from my office. Should I be happy?
The store near me doesn't have much in the way of mechanics--I've
heard them refer customers to another one of their stores in the
area for service--but it's a fine place to buy parts, etc.
--
Ben Pfaff
http://benpfaff.org
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Date: 27 Jun 2007 10:32:28
From: gds
Subject: Re: Performance Bikes
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On Jun 27, 10:15 am, catzz66 <catz...@threeletterservice.com > wrote:
> There is a new Performance store moving in right across the freeway from
> my office. Should I be happy?
My experience is positive. I have not found them to be a good source
of mechanical expertise.
However, they are great for commodity items. Last month I bought 50
tubes for $100 deals like this are not uncommon.
You could always get the deal on line but the store will match any of
thier on line prices and sometimes it is nice to just go in and pick
it up.
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Date: 27 Jun 2007 14:02:34
From: Roger Zoul
Subject: Re: Performance Bikes
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gds wrote:
:: On Jun 27, 10:15 am, catzz66 <catz...@threeletterservice.com > wrote:
::: There is a new Performance store moving in right across the freeway
::: from my office. Should I be happy?
::
:: My experience is positive. I have not found them to be a good source
:: of mechanical expertise.
:: However, they are great for commodity items. Last month I bought 50
:: tubes for $100 deals like this are not uncommon.
::
:: You could always get the deal on line but the store will match any of
:: thier on line prices and sometimes it is nice to just go in and pick
:: it up.
Plus, they have a 100% guarantee, so if it doesn't work a few months out,
you can return it.
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Date: 27 Jun 2007 17:31:14
From: Ron Hardin
Subject: Re: Performance Bikes
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catzz66 wrote:
>
> There is a new Performance store moving in right across the freeway from
> my office. Should I be happy?
I throw out their catalogs without looking at them. Everything overpriced.
--
Ron Hardin
rhhardin@mindspring.com
On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.
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Date: 27 Jun 2007 17:28:17
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Performance Bikes
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Ron Hardin wrote:
> catzz66 wrote:
>>
>> There is a new Performance store moving in right across the freeway
>> from my office. Should I be happy?
>
> I throw out their catalogs without looking at them. Everything
> overpriced.
Ridiculous on two counts: A) They have true "mail order" prices, with many
sale items; and B) OP asked about their brick and mortar stores, which price
match any item from any valid source.
I'm no huge PBS fan (just canceled my Team membership after 4-5 years), but
they do have lots of good deals on lots of products.
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Date: 27 Jun 2007 13:33:41
From: Dane Buson
Subject: Re: Performance Bikes
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Ron Hardin <rhhardin@mindspring.com > wrote:
> catzz66 wrote:
>>
>> There is a new Performance store moving in right across the freeway from
>> my office. Should I be happy?
>
> I throw out their catalogs without looking at them. Everything overpriced.
It's not so much overpriced as they just don't carry anything I want
usually. They're very oriented to the weekend cyclist. A lot of the
gear and bits and bobs I want, they just don't carry.
--
Dane Buson - sigdane@unixbigots.org
It seemed the world was divided into good and bad people. The good ones slept
better... while the bad ones seemed to enjoy the waking hours much more.
-- Woody Allen, "Side Effects"
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Date: 27 Jun 2007 10:26:54
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Performance Bikes
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"catzz66" <catzz66@threeletterservice.com > wrote in message
news:5efk8vF38skdiU2@mid.individual.net...
> There is a new Performance store moving in right across the freeway from
> my office. Should I be happy?
Is it replacing a strip club?
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Date: 27 Jun 2007 13:22:29
From: Roger Zoul
Subject: Re: Performance Bikes
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catzz66 wrote:
:: There is a new Performance store moving in right across the freeway
:: from my office. Should I be happy?
Do you order a lot of things from them?
I would not mind having one near me.....I'm not certain they are better than
a LBS for buying/caring for a bike, though.
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Date: 27 Jun 2007 13:19:19
From: catzz66
Subject: Re: Performance Bikes
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Roger Zoul wrote:
> catzz66 wrote:
> :: There is a new Performance store moving in right across the freeway
> :: from my office. Should I be happy?
>
> Do you order a lot of things from them?
>
>
Not lately. The best equipped LBS is 10 miles from me. REI is about 7
miles away. There's a great little shop about 3 miles from me where I
take repairs I can't do or don't have time to do myself. Went in there
last week looking for a couple of 700 X 23C presta tubes and they were
out. They are nice folks, so I came back again on the weekend and
picked them up. I probably won't change the way I do things very much.
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