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Date: 07 Feb 2007 08:03:46
From: dgk
Subject: Propane on a bike
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So I'm sitting in a car getting gas early last Saturday on our way
from NYC to Washington, and I see a bike ride into the station and
stop at the convenience store. The bike has some sort of platform
grafted onto the back filled with various things, one of which is a
propane can.
I think it was propane. It's one of those tanks for the gas barbeque.
And I'm thinking that perhaps it isn't the best of ideas to ride
around with a tank of gas on the back of your bike. On the other hand,
if someone plows into him, they do get what they deserve.
Maybe riding around with an empty tank on the back of the bike will
ward off folks passing too closely?
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Date: 13 Feb 2007 05:10:12
From: me
Subject: Re: Propane on a bike
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On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:03:46 -0500, dgk wrote:
> So I'm sitting in a car getting gas early last Saturday on our way
> from NYC to Washington, and I see a bike ride into the station and
> stop at the convenience store. The bike has some sort of platform
> grafted onto the back filled with various things, one of which is a
> propane can.
>
> I think it was propane. It's one of those tanks for the gas barbeque.
> And I'm thinking that perhaps it isn't the best of ideas to ride
> around with a tank of gas on the back of your bike. On the other hand,
> if someone plows into him, they do get what they deserve.
>
> Maybe riding around with an empty tank on the back of the bike will
> ward off folks passing too closely?
I don't see your point? If i worried about what would happen if someone
crashed into me, I would never get on the bike! if it is carried in a
way which doesnt interfere with the operation of the bike, I dont see
any problem.
Did you see that worlds worst driver thing where the idiot car driver
ran out room IN the car, so he loaded stuff under the hood? It caught
fire 'cause there was material in there, the look on the fireman's face
when he pulled out the LP can was priceless!
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Date: 13 Feb 2007 07:57:49
From: dgk
Subject: Re: Propane on a bike
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On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 05:10:12 GMT, me <me@nowhere.com > wrote:
>On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:03:46 -0500, dgk wrote:
>
>> So I'm sitting in a car getting gas early last Saturday on our way
>> from NYC to Washington, and I see a bike ride into the station and
>> stop at the convenience store. The bike has some sort of platform
>> grafted onto the back filled with various things, one of which is a
>> propane can.
>>
>> I think it was propane. It's one of those tanks for the gas barbeque.
>> And I'm thinking that perhaps it isn't the best of ideas to ride
>> around with a tank of gas on the back of your bike. On the other hand,
>> if someone plows into him, they do get what they deserve.
>>
>> Maybe riding around with an empty tank on the back of the bike will
>> ward off folks passing too closely?
>
>I don't see your point? If i worried about what would happen if someone
>crashed into me, I would never get on the bike! if it is carried in a
>way which doesnt interfere with the operation of the bike, I dont see
>any problem.
>
>Did you see that worlds worst driver thing where the idiot car driver
>ran out room IN the car, so he loaded stuff under the hood? It caught
>fire 'cause there was material in there, the look on the fireman's face
>when he pulled out the LP can was priceless!
No, that's pretty funny. But I've had all sorts of stuff fall off a
bike. If it's a propane tank I'd be more concerned than for a bag of
oranges.
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Date: 13 Feb 2007 09:25:54
From:
Subject: Re: Propane on a bike
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I carry my acetylene tank on my bike when I need more for brazing -- not
safe to carry acetylene tanks inside an enclosed vehicle, and I don't
own a pickup truck, so I stand it up in a grocery-bag pannier on the
left rear. Never had any trouble with it.
--
josh@phred.org is Joshua Putnam
<http://www.phred.org/~josh/ >
Braze your own bicycle frames. See
<http://www.phred.org/~josh/build/build.html >
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Date: 07 Feb 2007 19:48:47
From: AustinMN
Subject: Re: Propane on a bike
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On Feb 7, 5:28 pm, "Leo Lichtman" <l.licht...@worldnet.att.net > wrote:
> Let's take an epidemiological approach. How many examples are there of fuel
> tanks exploding due to an impact? Can't remember any? QED.
I can remember one fatal, (although death was probably due to
collision, not fire) with a motorhome. The article did not make it
clear whether it was a punctured tank or a damaged line (speculating,
but I'd bet on the line, not the tank), but it was definitely a
propane explosion folowing a *major* collision.
Austin
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Date: 07 Feb 2007 16:15:35
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: Propane on a bike
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In article <s0jjs2pq4q658fch6o9gd3r74mc31l4grb@4ax.com >,
dgk <dgk@somewhere.com > writes:
> So I'm sitting in a car getting gas early last Saturday on our way
> from NYC to Washington, and I see a bike ride into the station and
> stop at the convenience store. The bike has some sort of platform
> grafted onto the back filled with various things, one of which is a
> propane can.
Maybe it was an XtraCycle rig?
http://www.xtracycle.com/sub.php
cheers,
Tom
--
Nothing is safe from me.
Above address is just a spam midden.
I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca
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Date: 08 Feb 2007 10:06:35
From: dgk
Subject: Re: Propane on a bike
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On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 16:15:35 -0800, tkeats2005@hotmail.com (Tom Keats)
wrote:
>In article <s0jjs2pq4q658fch6o9gd3r74mc31l4grb@4ax.com>,
> dgk <dgk@somewhere.com> writes:
>> So I'm sitting in a car getting gas early last Saturday on our way
>> from NYC to Washington, and I see a bike ride into the station and
>> stop at the convenience store. The bike has some sort of platform
>> grafted onto the back filled with various things, one of which is a
>> propane can.
>
>Maybe it was an XtraCycle rig?
> http://www.xtracycle.com/sub.php
>
>
>cheers,
> Tom
Ha, I love it. A Sport Utility Bicycle. No, it was clearly homemade; a
platform of some kind.
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Date: 07 Feb 2007 09:36:22
From: Daryl Hunt
Subject: Re: Propane on a bike
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"dgk" <dgk@somewhere.com > wrote in message
news:s0jjs2pq4q658fch6o9gd3r74mc31l4grb@4ax.com...
> So I'm sitting in a car getting gas early last Saturday on our way
> from NYC to Washington, and I see a bike ride into the station and
> stop at the convenience store. The bike has some sort of platform
> grafted onto the back filled with various things, one of which is a
> propane can.
>
> I think it was propane. It's one of those tanks for the gas barbeque.
> And I'm thinking that perhaps it isn't the best of ideas to ride
> around with a tank of gas on the back of your bike. On the other hand,
> if someone plows into him, they do get what they deserve.
>
> Maybe riding around with an empty tank on the back of the bike will
> ward off folks passing too closely?
I do this all the time. Got a newsflash for you. That Propane Tank can
take a harder hit and still keep on ticking than you or your bike can. If
you get nailed hard enough to explode the tank you won't be around anyway
due to the instant death from the impact. Okay, you will be poast toasties
as well but I don't think you will mind after that.
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Date: 08 Feb 2007 02:10:19
From: Mike Kruger
Subject: Re: Propane on a bike
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Daryl Hunt wrote:
> "dgk" <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> news:s0jjs2pq4q658fch6o9gd3r74mc31l4grb@4ax.com...
>> So I'm sitting in a car getting gas early last Saturday on our way
>> from NYC to Washington, and I see a bike ride into the station and
>> stop at the convenience store. The bike has some sort of platform
>> grafted onto the back filled with various things, one of which is a
>> propane can.
>>
> I do this all the time. Got a newsflash for you. That Propane Tank
> can take a harder hit and still keep on ticking than you or your bike
> can. If you get nailed hard enough to explode the tank you won't be
> around anyway due to the instant death from the impact. Okay, you
> will be poast toasties as well but I don't think you will mind after
> that.
When I was in India last December, I saw bicyclists carrying cans of fuel
all the time. Daryl's most likely right.
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Date: 07 Feb 2007 12:14:53
From: AustinMN
Subject: Re: Propane on a bike
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Mike A Schwab wrote:
> Unless it is welded onto the rack, it will probably be ejected and
> land away from the bicycle and car. Unlikely to be penetrated, and if
> it is, it is not in an enclosed area where it could mix with air to an
> explosive concentration.
LP Gas (usually a mix of propane and butane) does not need to be in an
enclosed space to reach explosive concentrations. Since it is heavier
than air, it can settle into a gully, ditch, storm drain, etc. and
wait for an opportunity to react. =8-O
OTOH, it would have to be dead calm - a light breeze would probably be
ebough to dissipate it.
Austin
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Date: 07 Feb 2007 23:28:05
From: Leo Lichtman
Subject: Re: Propane on a bike
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Let's take an epidemiological approach. How many examples are there of fuel
tanks exploding due to an impact? Can't remember any? QED.
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Date: 07 Feb 2007 16:10:36
From: dgk
Subject: Re: Propane on a bike
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On 7 Feb 2007 12:14:53 -0800, "AustinMN" <tacooper260@hotmail.com >
wrote:
>Mike A Schwab wrote:
>> Unless it is welded onto the rack, it will probably be ejected and
>> land away from the bicycle and car. Unlikely to be penetrated, and if
>> it is, it is not in an enclosed area where it could mix with air to an
>> explosive concentration.
>
>LP Gas (usually a mix of propane and butane) does not need to be in an
>enclosed space to reach explosive concentrations. Since it is heavier
>than air, it can settle into a gully, ditch, storm drain, etc. and
>wait for an opportunity to react. =8-O
>
>OTOH, it would have to be dead calm - a light breeze would probably be
>ebough to dissipate it.
>
>Austin
I store my extra tank under my deck. I guess it's fairly safe there
since even if it leaks it's open on all sides. I do get nervous when I
have to take it for a replacement. They don't refill them in NY, you
exchange your tank for another one. Everyone hates giving up their
nice new tank for an older one.
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Date: 07 Feb 2007 11:08:34
From: Mike A Schwab
Subject: Re: Propane on a bike
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On Feb 7, 7:03 am, dgk <d...@somewhere.com > wrote:
<deleted >
> I think it was propane. It's one of those tanks for the gas barbeque.
> And I'm thinking that perhaps it isn't the best of ideas to ride
> around with a tank of gas on the back of your bike. On the other hand,
> if someone plows into him, they do get what they deserve.
<deleted >
Unless it is welded onto the rack, it will probably be ejected and
land away from the bicycle and car. Unlikely to be penetrated, and if
it is, it is not in an enclosed area where it could mix with air to an
explosive concentration.
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Date: 07 Feb 2007 07:22:36
From: Brian Huntley
Subject: Re: Propane on a bike
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On Feb 7, 8:03 am, dgk <d...@somewhere.com > wrote:
> I think it was propane. It's one of those tanks for the gas barbeque.
> And I'm thinking that perhaps it isn't the best of ideas to ride
> around with a tank of gas on the back of your bike. On the other hand,
> if someone plows into him, they do get what they deserve.
How else do I refill my tank? I can't take it in a taxi (even a
propane fueled one) or on a city bus, and it's about 5 km to the
nearest refilling place now.
Maybe I should just get a natural gas bbq.
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Date: 07 Feb 2007 14:55:33
From: dgk
Subject: Re: Propane on a bike
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On 7 Feb 2007 07:22:36 -0800, "Brian Huntley"
<brian_huntley@hotmail.com > wrote:
>On Feb 7, 8:03 am, dgk <d...@somewhere.com> wrote:
>> I think it was propane. It's one of those tanks for the gas barbeque.
>> And I'm thinking that perhaps it isn't the best of ideas to ride
>> around with a tank of gas on the back of your bike. On the other hand,
>> if someone plows into him, they do get what they deserve.
>
>How else do I refill my tank? I can't take it in a taxi (even a
>propane fueled one) or on a city bus, and it's about 5 km to the
>nearest refilling place now.
>
>Maybe I should just get a natural gas bbq.
Ah, that's what I get from living in the big city with a car. Thank
you for setting me straight. It still looks weird but I can't see
another way to do it.
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