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Date: 24 Aug 2006 12:02:02
From: Ken C. M.
Subject: Questions for commuters
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A couple for you:
1) How often do you get asked "Do you have a license?"
2) When was the last time you drove your MV to work or school?
The reason these I ask these question is this. The other day while at
work I had a small conversation with a co-worker about how far people
are willing to drive to work, the price of gasoline and the mileage cars
get. And at one point I commented on a car I would like to own, but
costs more than I am willing to lay out for that type of car, and my
co-worked asked "Do you have a license?", to which I replied yes, and
then she said "So why do you ride your bicycle everywhere?". I said to
save money on gasoline, to get exercise and to cut down on the our
dependence on oil. She said "Oh, I thought you couldn't drive or
something." to which I said yeah that is a common misconception about
people that use bicycles as transportation.
Ken
--
Messengers and mountain bikers share a common chromosome. ~James Bethea
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Date: 28 Aug 2006 19:06:55
From: Chuck
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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In:
Group: rec.bicycles.misc Date: Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 12:02pm (CDT+1) From:
ken@up-yours-spammer.net (Ken=A0C.=A0M.)
Ken wrote:
A couple for you:
1) How often do you get asked "Do you have a license?"
2) When was the last time you drove your MV to work or school?
The reason these I ask these question is this. The other day while at
work I had a small conversation with a co-worker about how far people
are willing to drive to work, the price of gasoline and the mileage cars
get. And at one point I commented on a car I would like to own, but
costs more than I am willing to lay out for that type of car, and my
co-worked asked "Do you have a license?", to which I replied yes, and
then she said "So why do you ride your bicycle everywhere?". I said to
save money on gasoline, to get exercise and to cut down on the our
dependence on oil. She said "Oh, I thought you couldn't drive or
something." to which I said yeah that is a common misconception about
people that use bicycles as transportation.
Ken
--
Messengers and mountain bikers share a common chromosome. ~James Bethea
I nolonger drive period. I refuse to be sold the idea that I can't live
without a car; gave it up in 1986 and have never looked back. I
currently use a modified EZ-3 for my daily commute to work and back. I
have a trailer I can use to haul back upto 30 gallons of groceries if I
so desire and most of my other needs are within a two mile radious of
home. I also have a regular bike I sometimes use just for fun; I call it
my sports car.
Chuck Trotter
Nashville TN.
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Date: 28 Aug 2006 21:51:09
From: greggery peccary
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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"Chuck" <pmprod@webtv.net > wrote in message
news:4056-44F3851F-669@storefull-3137.bay.webtv.net...
In:
Group: rec.bicycles.misc Date: Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 12:02pm (CDT+1) From:
ken@up-yours-spammer.net (Ken C. M.)
Ken wrote:
A couple for you:
1) How often do you get asked "Do you have a license?"
2) When was the last time you drove your MV to work or school?
The reason these I ask these question is this. The other day while at
work I had a small conversation with a co-worker about how far people
are willing to drive to work, the price of gasoline and the mileage cars
get. And at one point I commented on a car I would like to own, but
costs more than I am willing to lay out for that type of car, and my
co-worked asked "Do you have a license?", to which I replied yes, and
then she said "So why do you ride your bicycle everywhere?". I said to
save money on gasoline, to get exercise and to cut down on the our
dependence on oil. She said "Oh, I thought you couldn't drive or
something." to which I said yeah that is a common misconception about
people that use bicycles as transportation.
Ken
--
Messengers and mountain bikers share a common chromosome. ~James Bethea
I nolonger drive period. I refuse to be sold the idea that I can't live
without a car; gave it up in 1986 and have never looked back. I
currently use a modified EZ-3 for my daily commute to work and back. I
have a trailer I can use to haul back upto 30 gallons of groceries if I
so desire and most of my other needs are within a two mile radious of
home. I also have a regular bike I sometimes use just for fun; I call it
my sports car.
Chuck Trotter
Nashville TN.
good for you. im gonna do that soon. it's hard to let go of my old mopar
that still hauls all kinds of stuff once in a while, but i agree there's no
reason to buy that idea. you can live without a car, it's just a matter of
priorities like anything else. for sale: rare '64 v-100 sw HP/6 4bbl, 3.25
rear end w/333, alloy mags & many extras...$1000 OBO seattle area.
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Date: 28 Aug 2006 14:59:45
From: Dane Buson
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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Ken C. M. <ken@up-yours-spammer.net > wrote:
> A couple for you:
>
> 1) How often do you get asked "Do you have a license?"
Never that one. Lots of "You have a car!", said in tones of
astonishment though.
> 2) When was the last time you drove your MV to work or school?
Two weeks ago, due to an emergency at work. Probably a couple months
for the time before that.
--
Dane Buson - sigdane@unixbigots.org
The Government just announced today the creation of the Neutron Bomb II.
Similar to the Neutron Bomb, the Neutron Bomb II not only kills people
and leaves buildings standing, but also does a little light housekeeping.
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Date: 26 Aug 2006 19:57:15
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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In article <ecqvn9$ik0$1@gnus01.u.washington.edu >,
"greggery peccary" <dinkylittleoffice@bigswifty.com > writes:
>
> "Tom Keats" <tkeats2005@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:095nce.2bl2.ln@vcn.bc.ca...
>> In article <U8KdnQh5lI_hUHDZnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
>> "Ken C. M." <ken@up-yours-spammer.net> writes:
>>> A couple for you:
>>>
>>
>> Sometimes I tell 'em I don't drive because I'm peripatetic.
>> Then they respond with a nod of faux understanding.
>>
>
> lol, i wikie'd (faux encyclopedia) peripatetic and it says "Such accounts
> also suggest that sometimes these "followers" were known for their use of
> drink and unruly behavior".
Screw academia and its stuffy stuffed-shirt trappings.
I'm a Sagittarian. Apparently centaurs were also reputed
to indulge in such shenanigans. Go figger, eh?
But as a Year Of The Snake guy, I'm relatively mellow
about it. In fact I can be downright charming, if I make
the effort. I learned it from watching Cary Grant movies.
http://tinyurl.com/mqo2y
I'm the seated guy in the centre background.
The guy in the centre foreground, falling off his chair,
is my nextdoorikah. It's not his fault (my basement
sub-floor is getting kinda crumbly, and chair legs are
wont to fall into skinkholes and tip over. I just know
where the soft spots are. He doesn't.)
We all have a grand time, not driving.
cheers,
Tom
--
-- Nothing is safe from me.
Above address is just a spam midden.
I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca
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Date: 26 Aug 2006 18:51:19
From: greggery peccary
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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"Ken C. M." <ken@up-yours-spammer.net > wrote in message
news:U8KdnQh5lI_hUHDZnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>A couple for you:
>
> 1) How often do you get asked "Do you have a license?"
> 2) When was the last time you drove your MV to work or school?
>
1. never been asked that one, but people have stopped talking to me about
biking lately because (i think) it makes them feel guilty.
2. last year once when i was feeling sick i borrowed my wife's car (ya they
give us sick time at work but then punish us for using it-my employer is the
University of Washington if you are wondering- so we just go into work
sick). anyway i feel i have about 10 more years of bike commuting to atone
for all the car commuting i did before-but maybe i should subtract the years
of pizza delivery, a critical service.
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Date: 28 Aug 2006 14:57:59
From: Dane Buson
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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greggery peccary <dinkylittleoffice@bigswifty.com > wrote:
> 2. last year once when i was feeling sick i borrowed my wife's car (ya they
> give us sick time at work but then punish us for using it-my employer is the
> University of Washington if you are wondering- so we just go into work
> sick).
Ick, I take it you have one of those where it's a shared pool of
sick/vacation/holiday days?
> anyway i feel i have about 10 more years of bike commuting to atone
> for all the car commuting i did before-but maybe i should subtract the years
> of pizza delivery, a critical service.
A noble cause in the general case. Too bad there is very little pizza
in Seattle worth delivering.
--
Dane Buson - sigdane@unixbigots.org
Dr. Who was actually rekably prescient propoganda to make sure
Britain didn't enact legislation requiring wheelchair ramps on
buildings. No wheel chair ramps == no Dalek invasion. - Paul Tomblin
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Date: 28 Aug 2006 16:16:36
From: greggery peccary
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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>
> Ick, I take it you have one of those where it's a shared pool of
> sick/vacation/holiday days?
>
no, worse. separately accrued but not allowed to use.
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Date: 29 Aug 2006 01:28:44
From: Tom Kunich
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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"greggery peccary" <.@. > wrote in message
news:ecvtgk$e91$1@gnus01.u.washington.edu...
> >
>> Ick, I take it you have one of those where it's a shared pool of
>> sick/vacation/holiday days?
>
> no, worse. separately accrued but not allowed to use.
I worked for Beckman Corp. and they gave you sick leave but put you on
report if you used more than two days in a row and might fire you if you
took any more sick days in the next 6 months.
The mental illness at that company certainly motivated me to move on to
better companies.
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Date: 29 Aug 2006 02:06:05
From: Bill Baka
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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Tom Kunich wrote:
> "greggery peccary" <.@.> wrote in message
> news:ecvtgk$e91$1@gnus01.u.washington.edu...
>>> Ick, I take it you have one of those where it's a shared pool of
>>> sick/vacation/holiday days?
>> no, worse. separately accrued but not allowed to use.
>
> I worked for Beckman Corp. and they gave you sick leave but put you on
> report if you used more than two days in a row and might fire you if you
> took any more sick days in the next 6 months.
>
> The mental illness at that company certainly motivated me to move on to
> better companies.
>
>
>
I worked for Beckman for about a month and got written up for punching
in 10 seconds late because there was a line in front of me. There was an
ice storm that made driving nearly impossible so everybody was running
late. That was in the Portland, Oregon area and also the last time I
ever punched a time clock. It took the supervisor all of about 4 hours
to review the time cards and call me into his office and start his rant.
I told him to eat shit and walked out before I really blew it and
punched him and not the time clock. That made up my mind to move back to
California, quickly. I feel sorry for 'ANYBODY' who works at Beckman in
any state. They treat all employees equally, like dirt.
I had to get that out. Beckman just plain sucks.
Bill Baka
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Date: 29 Aug 2006 03:06:57
From: R Brickston
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 02:06:05 GMT, Bill Baka <bbaka@syix.com > wrote:
>Tom Kunich wrote:
>> "greggery peccary" <.@.> wrote in message
>> news:ecvtgk$e91$1@gnus01.u.washington.edu...
>>>> Ick, I take it you have one of those where it's a shared pool of
>>>> sick/vacation/holiday days?
>>> no, worse. separately accrued but not allowed to use.
>>
>> I worked for Beckman Corp. and they gave you sick leave but put you on
>> report if you used more than two days in a row and might fire you if you
>> took any more sick days in the next 6 months.
>>
>> The mental illness at that company certainly motivated me to move on to
>> better companies.
>>
>>
>>
>I worked for Beckman for about a month and got written up for punching
>in 10 seconds late because there was a line in front of me. There was an
>ice storm that made driving nearly impossible so everybody was running
>late. That was in the Portland, Oregon area and also the last time I
>ever punched a time clock. It took the supervisor all of about 4 hours
>to review the time cards and call me into his office and start his rant.
>I told him to eat shit and walked out before I really blew it and
>punched him and not the time clock. That made up my mind to move back to
>California, quickly. I feel sorry for 'ANYBODY' who works at Beckman in
>any state. They treat all employees equally, like dirt.
>I had to get that out. Beckman just plain sucks.
>Bill Baka
Billy, you were goint to get blown out anyway with your admitted
terrible atitude toward co-workers. You just gave them the
non-litigatable excuse they needed to can your sorry ass. Management
probably was running a pool on how long it took you to go postal. What
kind of Neanderthal resorts to physical violence? You're a total
Dunce.
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Date: 29 Aug 2006 16:19:51
From: Bill Baka
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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R Brickston wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 02:06:05 GMT, Bill Baka <bbaka@syix.com> wrote:
>
>> Tom Kunich wrote:
>>> "greggery peccary" <.@.> wrote in message
>>> news:ecvtgk$e91$1@gnus01.u.washington.edu...
>>>>> Ick, I take it you have one of those where it's a shared pool of
>>>>> sick/vacation/holiday days?
>>>> no, worse. separately accrued but not allowed to use.
>>> I worked for Beckman Corp. and they gave you sick leave but put you on
>>> report if you used more than two days in a row and might fire you if you
>>> took any more sick days in the next 6 months.
>>>
>>> The mental illness at that company certainly motivated me to move on to
>>> better companies.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> I worked for Beckman for about a month and got written up for punching
>> in 10 seconds late because there was a line in front of me. There was an
>> ice storm that made driving nearly impossible so everybody was running
>> late. That was in the Portland, Oregon area and also the last time I
>> ever punched a time clock. It took the supervisor all of about 4 hours
>> to review the time cards and call me into his office and start his rant.
>> I told him to eat shit and walked out before I really blew it and
>> punched him and not the time clock. That made up my mind to move back to
>> California, quickly. I feel sorry for 'ANYBODY' who works at Beckman in
>> any state. They treat all employees equally, like dirt.
>> I had to get that out. Beckman just plain sucks.
>> Bill Baka
>
> Billy, you were goint to get blown out anyway with your admitted
> terrible atitude toward co-workers. You just gave them the
> non-litigatable excuse they needed to can your sorry ass. Management
> probably was running a pool on how long it took you to go postal. What
> kind of Neanderthal resorts to physical violence? You're a total
> Dunce.
Once again you prove you are a total moron. My coworkers were wonderful
and even gave me a baby shower when my daughter was born. It was the
management that sucked back in 1978 and still does. This genius was
about to punch the boss when he stood up and leaned over the desk to get
directly in my face, which I do not advise. If you want to be somebodies
white 'Nigger' go right ahead, as it seems that you are qualified.
Please excuse the 'N' word but I think it applies.
Bill Baka
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Date: 29 Aug 2006 16:27:02
From: R Brickston
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:19:51 GMT, Bill Baka <bbaka@syix.com > wrote:
>R Brickston wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 02:06:05 GMT, Bill Baka <bbaka@syix.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>> "greggery peccary" <.@.> wrote in message
>>>> news:ecvtgk$e91$1@gnus01.u.washington.edu...
>>>>>> Ick, I take it you have one of those where it's a shared pool of
>>>>>> sick/vacation/holiday days?
>>>>> no, worse. separately accrued but not allowed to use.
>>>> I worked for Beckman Corp. and they gave you sick leave but put you on
>>>> report if you used more than two days in a row and might fire you if you
>>>> took any more sick days in the next 6 months.
>>>>
>>>> The mental illness at that company certainly motivated me to move on to
>>>> better companies.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I worked for Beckman for about a month and got written up for punching
>>> in 10 seconds late because there was a line in front of me. There was an
>>> ice storm that made driving nearly impossible so everybody was running
>>> late. That was in the Portland, Oregon area and also the last time I
>>> ever punched a time clock. It took the supervisor all of about 4 hours
>>> to review the time cards and call me into his office and start his rant.
>>> I told him to eat shit and walked out before I really blew it and
>>> punched him and not the time clock. That made up my mind to move back to
>>> California, quickly. I feel sorry for 'ANYBODY' who works at Beckman in
>>> any state. They treat all employees equally, like dirt.
>>> I had to get that out. Beckman just plain sucks.
>>> Bill Baka
>>
>> Billy, you were goint to get blown out anyway with your admitted
>> terrible atitude toward co-workers. You just gave them the
>> non-litigatable excuse they needed to can your sorry ass. Management
>> probably was running a pool on how long it took you to go postal. What
>> kind of Neanderthal resorts to physical violence? You're a total
>> Dunce.
>
>Once again you prove you are a total moron. My coworkers were wonderful
>and even gave me a baby shower when my daughter was born. It was the
>management that sucked back in 1978 and still does. This genius was
>about to punch the boss when he stood up and leaned over the desk to get
>directly in my face, which I do not advise. If you want to be somebodies
>white 'Nigger' go right ahead, as it seems that you are qualified.
>Please excuse the 'N' word but I think it applies.
>Bill Baka
Well, well... The use of that word under any circumstances is
shameful. Just goes to show what a POS you really and truly are. That
company, any company (I'm sure there were many), are better off that
you were fired. BTW, you're no genius, your an idiot; although you are
the stest person on Planet Baka - Population 1.
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Date: 29 Aug 2006 16:37:51
From: Bill Baka
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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R Brickston wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:19:51 GMT, Bill Baka <bbaka@syix.com> wrote:
>
>> Once again you prove you are a total moron. My coworkers were wonderful
>> and even gave me a baby shower when my daughter was born. It was the
>> management that sucked back in 1978 and still does. This genius was
>> about to punch the boss when he stood up and leaned over the desk to get
>> directly in my face, which I do not advise. If you want to be somebodies
>> white 'Nigger' go right ahead, as it seems that you are qualified.
>> Please excuse the 'N' word but I think it applies.
>> Bill Baka
>
> Well, well... The use of that word under any circumstances is
> shameful. Just goes to show what a POS you really and truly are. That
> company, any company (I'm sure there were many), are better off that
> you were fired. BTW, you're no genius, your an idiot; although you are
> the stest person on Planet Baka - Population 1.
Again, you prove your stupidity. That word applies equally well to white
people as I have known some that fit the definition. The
African-American population still takes offense since the southerners
still have an attitude towards anyone of color. I don't.
You also apparently can't read and comprehend, since I said I quit and
walked out. My coworkers tried to convince me to stay but I won't work
for a boss or a company like that. Why I talk to an idiot like you I
don't know, except that I must be bored.
Bill Baka
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Date: 29 Aug 2006 19:42:00
From: Paul Hobson
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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Bill Baka wrote:
> R Brickston wrote:
>> Well, well... The use of that word under any circumstances is
>> shameful. Just goes to show what a POS you really and truly are. That
>> company, any company (I'm sure there were many), are better off that
>> you were fired. BTW, you're no genius, your an idiot; although you are
>> the stest person on Planet Baka - Population 1.
>
> Again, you prove your stupidity. That word applies equally well to white
> people as I have known some that fit the definition. The
> African-American population still takes offense since the southerners
> still have an attitude towards anyone of color.
What the hell are you talking about? Racists are all over this country.
Hmm...what's that? Riots over integration in Boston? Apparently
not, since racism only exists in the South, where it's perpetuated by
all southerns.
(Hot tip: 90% of the racists I've worked with down here migrated from
the Midwest or the North).
You really come across as completely ignorant sometimes.
\\paul
And NO! that term did not apply there. Maybe if you spent some real
time dealing with real racial issues, you'd know that.
--
Paul M. Hobson
Georgia Institute of Technology
.:change the f to ph to reply:.
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Date: 30 Aug 2006 01:53:59
From: Bill Baka
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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Paul Hobson wrote:
> Bill Baka wrote:
>> R Brickston wrote:
>>> Well, well... The use of that word under any circumstances is
>>> shameful. Just goes to show what a POS you really and truly are. That
>>> company, any company (I'm sure there were many), are better off that
>>> you were fired. BTW, you're no genius, your an idiot; although you are
>>> the stest person on Planet Baka - Population 1.
>>
>> Again, you prove your stupidity. That word applies equally well to
>> white people as I have known some that fit the definition. The
>> African-American population still takes offense since the southerners
>> still have an attitude towards anyone of color.
>
> What the hell are you talking about? Racists are all over this country.
> Hmm...what's that? Riots over integration in Boston? Apparently not,
> since racism only exists in the South, where it's perpetuated by all
> southerns.
>
> (Hot tip: 90% of the racists I've worked with down here migrated from
> the Midwest or the North).
>
> You really come across as completely ignorant sometimes.
>
> \\paul
>
> And NO! that term did not apply there. Maybe if you spent some real
> time dealing with real racial issues, you'd know that.
News flash,
I just took my granddaughter to the park for a long walk and met 2 of
her friends from school, one pure black and the other only 1/4 black,
and I wound up talking with her for most of an hour about racial
backgrounds. She said she identifies mostly with her 1/4 black because
she is also part Mexican, part Irish, and more that she doesn't even
know. She also told me that the biggest racial issue the kids at her
school have is the Hmongs that the United States imported for their own
protection. Even the not quite whites have issues with each other. If I
was going to be racist it would not be against the blacks since it is
not their fault they are here. I do have an issue with illegal
immigrants and the Hmongs who are responsible for most of the gang
activity in this area. I was watching a herd of kids when a bus load of
Hmongs got off the school bus and ran off the white, black, and even
Mexican kids who were there. They refused to even talk to anyone.
Can you say reverse racism?
It exists and I can't fix it, so can you?
Bill Baka
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Date: 30 Aug 2006 05:35:50
From: R Brickston
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 01:53:59 GMT, Bill Baka <bbaka@syix.com > wrote:
>Paul Hobson wrote:
>> Bill Baka wrote:
>>> R Brickston wrote:
>>>> Well, well... The use of that word under any circumstances is
>>>> shameful. Just goes to show what a POS you really and truly are. That
>>>> company, any company (I'm sure there were many), are better off that
>>>> you were fired. BTW, you're no genius, your an idiot; although you are
>>>> the stest person on Planet Baka - Population 1.
>>>
>>> Again, you prove your stupidity. That word applies equally well to
>>> white people as I have known some that fit the definition. The
>>> African-American population still takes offense since the southerners
>>> still have an attitude towards anyone of color.
>>
>> What the hell are you talking about? Racists are all over this country.
>> Hmm...what's that? Riots over integration in Boston? Apparently not,
>> since racism only exists in the South, where it's perpetuated by all
>> southerns.
>>
>> (Hot tip: 90% of the racists I've worked with down here migrated from
>> the Midwest or the North).
>>
>> You really come across as completely ignorant sometimes.
>>
>> \\paul
>>
>> And NO! that term did not apply there. Maybe if you spent some real
>> time dealing with real racial issues, you'd know that.
>
>News flash,
>I just took my granddaughter to the park for a long walk and met 2 of
>her friends from school, one pure black and the other only 1/4 black,
>and I wound up talking with her for most of an hour about racial
>backgrounds. She said she identifies mostly with her 1/4 black because
>she is also part Mexican, part Irish, and more that she doesn't even
>know. She also told me that the biggest racial issue the kids at her
>school have is the Hmongs that the United States imported for their own
>protection. Even the not quite whites have issues with each other. If I
>was going to be racist it would not be against the blacks since it is
>not their fault they are here. I do have an issue with illegal
>immigrants and the Hmongs who are responsible for most of the gang
>activity in this area. I was watching a herd of kids when a bus load of
>Hmongs got off the school bus and ran off the white, black, and even
>Mexican kids who were there. They refused to even talk to anyone.
>Can you say reverse racism?
>It exists and I can't fix it, so can you?
>Bill Baka
You're a racist, read the crap you just wrote. "If I
was going to be racist it would not be against the blacks..." You got
it in for /somebody/ (besides me, of course).
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Date: 29 Aug 2006 23:26:38
From: Paul Hobson
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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Bill Baka wrote:
> News flash,
> I just took my granddaughter to the park for a long walk and met 2 of
> her friends from school, one pure black and the other only 1/4 black,
> and I wound up talking with her for most of an hour about racial
> backgrounds. She said she identifies mostly with her 1/4 black because
> she is also part Mexican, part Irish, and more that she doesn't even
> know. She also told me that the biggest racial issue the kids at her
> school have is the Hmongs that the United States imported for their own
> protection. Even the not quite whites have issues with each other. If I
> was going to be racist it would not be against the blacks since it is
> not their fault they are here. I do have an issue with illegal
> immigrants and the Hmongs who are responsible for most of the gang
> activity in this area. I was watching a herd of kids when a bus load of
> Hmongs got off the school bus and ran off the white, black, and even
> Mexican kids who were there. They refused to even talk to anyone.
1) This posts doesn't make you sound very racially tolerant. But wait,
you're not in the South, so I guess you have insider info that makes
this informed rather than bigoted.
2) How does any of that nonsense have /anything/ to do with this:
>> Bill Baka wrote:
>>> Again, you prove your stupidity. [The n-]word applies equally well
>>> to white people as I have known some that fit the definition. The
>>> African-American population still takes offense since the
>>> southerners still have an attitude towards anyone of color.
To which I responded:
>> What the hell are you talking about? Racists are all over this
>> country. Hmm...what's that? Riots over integration in Boston?
>> Apparently not, since racism only exists in the South, where it's
>> perpetuated by all southerns.
Well?
Tell me Bill, how is the South so much more racist than the rest of the
country? What makes NYC, Boston, Pittsburgh, Milwaukee, St. Louis,
Dallas, Denver, LA...etc doing that make them *not* racist?
Tell you what. Go down do Georgia Tech's campus and witness a school
that represents well over 100 countries and you find out for yourself
where the racism in this country comes from -- > hint: everywhere. I
would like to point out that 98% of GT students get along quite well,
and the other 2% keep their mouths shut.
> Can you say reverse racism?
> It exists and I can't fix it, so can you?
> Bill Baka
Typical, ignorant view of racism. There's no such thing as reverse
racism. Either you are, or you aren't. Get real, man.
--
Paul M. Hobson
Georgia Institute of Technology
.:change the f to ph to reply:.
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Date: 30 Aug 2006 01:38:49
From: R Brickston
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 19:42:00 -0400, Paul Hobson <fobson@gatech.edu >
wrote:
>Bill Baka wrote:
>> R Brickston wrote:
>>> Well, well... The use of that word under any circumstances is
>>> shameful. Just goes to show what a POS you really and truly are. That
>>> company, any company (I'm sure there were many), are better off that
>>> you were fired. BTW, you're no genius, your an idiot; although you are
>>> the stest person on Planet Baka - Population 1.
>>
>> Again, you prove your stupidity. That word applies equally well to white
>> people as I have known some that fit the definition. The
>> African-American population still takes offense since the southerners
>> still have an attitude towards anyone of color.
>
>What the hell are you talking about? Racists are all over this country.
> Hmm...what's that? Riots over integration in Boston? Apparently
>not, since racism only exists in the South, where it's perpetuated by
>all southerns.
>
>(Hot tip: 90% of the racists I've worked with down here migrated from
>the Midwest or the North).
>
>You really come across as completely ignorant sometimes.
>
>\\paul
>
>And NO! that term did not apply there. Maybe if you spent some real
>time dealing with real racial issues, you'd know that.
I'm sure Billy was talking about the those that live in the South on
Planet Baka... wait a minute... Billy's the entire populace which
would make sense.
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Date: 30 Aug 2006 02:11:03
From: Bill Baka
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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R Brickston wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 19:42:00 -0400, Paul Hobson <fobson@gatech.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Bill Baka wrote:
>>> R Brickston wrote:
>>>> Well, well... The use of that word under any circumstances is
>>>> shameful. Just goes to show what a POS you really and truly are. That
>>>> company, any company (I'm sure there were many), are better off that
>>>> you were fired. BTW, you're no genius, your an idiot; although you are
>>>> the stest person on Planet Baka - Population 1.
>>> Again, you prove your stupidity. That word applies equally well to white
>>> people as I have known some that fit the definition. The
>>> African-American population still takes offense since the southerners
>>> still have an attitude towards anyone of color.
>> What the hell are you talking about? Racists are all over this country.
>> Hmm...what's that? Riots over integration in Boston? Apparently
>> not, since racism only exists in the South, where it's perpetuated by
>> all southerns.
>>
>> (Hot tip: 90% of the racists I've worked with down here migrated from
>> the Midwest or the North).
>>
>> You really come across as completely ignorant sometimes.
>>
>> \\paul
>>
>> And NO! that term did not apply there. Maybe if you spent some real
>> time dealing with real racial issues, you'd know that.
>
> I'm sure Billy was talking about the those that live in the South on
> Planet Baka... wait a minute... Billy's the entire populace which
> would make sense.
I concede to your stupidity. I am not going to waste the group bandwidth
on you anymore.
*PLONK*
Bill Baka
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Date: 30 Aug 2006 05:38:08
From: R Brickston
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 02:11:03 GMT, Bill Baka <bbaka@syix.com > wrote:
>R Brickston wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 19:42:00 -0400, Paul Hobson <fobson@gatech.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Bill Baka wrote:
>>>> R Brickston wrote:
>>>>> Well, well... The use of that word under any circumstances is
>>>>> shameful. Just goes to show what a POS you really and truly are. That
>>>>> company, any company (I'm sure there were many), are better off that
>>>>> you were fired. BTW, you're no genius, your an idiot; although you are
>>>>> the stest person on Planet Baka - Population 1.
>>>> Again, you prove your stupidity. That word applies equally well to white
>>>> people as I have known some that fit the definition. The
>>>> African-American population still takes offense since the southerners
>>>> still have an attitude towards anyone of color.
>>> What the hell are you talking about? Racists are all over this country.
>>> Hmm...what's that? Riots over integration in Boston? Apparently
>>> not, since racism only exists in the South, where it's perpetuated by
>>> all southerns.
>>>
>>> (Hot tip: 90% of the racists I've worked with down here migrated from
>>> the Midwest or the North).
>>>
>>> You really come across as completely ignorant sometimes.
>>>
>>> \\paul
>>>
>>> And NO! that term did not apply there. Maybe if you spent some real
>>> time dealing with real racial issues, you'd know that.
>>
>> I'm sure Billy was talking about the those that live in the South on
>> Planet Baka... wait a minute... Billy's the entire populace which
>> would make sense.
>
>I concede to your stupidity. I am not going to waste the group bandwidth
>on you anymore.
>
>*PLONK*
>
>Bill Baka
"group bandwidth." Yes, please don't waste it as we are having a hard
time with all these HUGE text files being laboriously pushed through
the ether.
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Date: 29 Aug 2006 16:52:45
From: R Brickston
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:37:51 GMT, Bill Baka <bbaka@syix.com > wrote:
>R Brickston wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:19:51 GMT, Bill Baka <bbaka@syix.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Once again you prove you are a total moron. My coworkers were wonderful
>>> and even gave me a baby shower when my daughter was born. It was the
>>> management that sucked back in 1978 and still does. This genius was
>>> about to punch the boss when he stood up and leaned over the desk to get
>>> directly in my face, which I do not advise. If you want to be somebodies
>>> white 'Nigger' go right ahead, as it seems that you are qualified.
>>> Please excuse the 'N' word but I think it applies.
>>> Bill Baka
>>
>> Well, well... The use of that word under any circumstances is
>> shameful. Just goes to show what a POS you really and truly are. That
>> company, any company (I'm sure there were many), are better off that
>> you were fired. BTW, you're no genius, your an idiot; although you are
>> the stest person on Planet Baka - Population 1.
>
>Again, you prove your stupidity. That word applies equally well to white
>people as
That is complete crap. If someone used it on me, I would burst out
laughing. To use the "N Word" on a white is completely meaningless.
>I have known some that fit the definition.
What's the definition of the "N Word," you racist piece of shit.
>The
>African-American population still takes offense since the southerners
>still have an attitude towards anyone of color. I don't.
>You also apparently can't read and comprehend, since I said I quit and
>walked out. My coworkers tried to convince me to stay but I won't work
>for a boss or a company like that. Why I talk to an idiot like you I
>don't know, except that I must be bored.
>Bill Baka
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Date: 29 Aug 2006 17:15:37
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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R Brickston wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:37:51 GMT, Bill Baka <bbaka@syix.com> wrote:
>> Again, you prove your stupidity. That word applies equally well to
>> white people as
> That is complete crap. If someone used it on me, I would burst out
> laughing. To use the "N Word" on a white is completely meaningless.
>> I have known some that fit the definition.
> What's the definition of the "N Word," you racist piece of shit.
Ask Robert Byrd.
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Date: 29 Aug 2006 19:15:47
From: Bill Baka
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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Bill Sornson wrote:
> R Brickston wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:37:51 GMT, Bill Baka <bbaka@syix.com> wrote:
>
>>> Again, you prove your stupidity. That word applies equally well to
>>> white people as
>
>> That is complete crap. If someone used it on me, I would burst out
>> laughing. To use the "N Word" on a white is completely meaningless.
>
>>> I have known some that fit the definition.
>
>> What's the definition of the "N Word," you racist piece of shit.
>
> Ask Robert Byrd.
>
>
I do have black friends as well as white and while they tend to not like
the 'N' word they do agree with me that they have seen a lot of white
"N's". I am not racist and in fact my locker mate in high school was the
only African-American kid in the whole school at the time. Eric
Washington was about half white and one of the nicest kids in my school,
better than I can say about some of the white assholes that went there.
I have a problem with all the illegal Mexicans that won't bother to
learn English, causing me to lose a few job offers because I didn't
speak Spanish. I try to be nice to them and help them out but it is a
bit hard to communicate with hand signals and only a half dozen words
that I know or they know of English. I have worked with blacks,
Mexicans, Chinese, East Indians, and more. The Chinese and East Indians
at least bothered to learn English and the blacks were born here. The
hardest workers of all, interestingly, were the East Indian women.
Why would I be racist? I was born in Chicago with a large black
population and never had any confrontations with them. I used to take
the Metra rail into downtown when I was 13 with a friend of mine and we
talked to them all the time, back in 1962. They were actually very nice
to us since they knew that as kids, we knew nothing about civil rights
or discrimination.
Brickston, You have the problem.
Bill Baka
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Date: 29 Aug 2006 19:46:42
From: R Brickston
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 19:15:47 GMT, Bill Baka <bbaka@syix.com > wrote:
>Bill Sornson wrote:
>> R Brickston wrote:
>>> On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:37:51 GMT, Bill Baka <bbaka@syix.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Again, you prove your stupidity. That word applies equally well to
>>>> white people as
>>
>>> That is complete crap. If someone used it on me, I would burst out
>>> laughing. To use the "N Word" on a white is completely meaningless.
>>
>>>> I have known some that fit the definition.
>>
>>> What's the definition of the "N Word," you racist piece of shit.
>>
>> Ask Robert Byrd.
>>
>>
>I do have black friends as well as white and while they tend to not like
>the 'N' word they do agree with me that they have seen a lot of white
>"N's". I am not racist and in fact my locker mate in high school was the
>only African-American kid in the whole school at the time.
Typical racist excuse.
>Eric
>Washington was about half white and one of the nicest kids in my school,
>better than I can say about some of the white assholes that went there.
>I have a problem with all the illegal Mexicans that won't bother to
>learn English, causing me to lose a few job offers because I didn't
>speak Spanish. I try to be nice to them and help them out but it is a
>bit hard to communicate with hand signals and only a half dozen words
>that I know or they know of English. I have worked with blacks,
>Mexicans, Chinese, East Indians, and more. The Chinese and East Indians
>at least bothered to learn English and the blacks were born here. The
>hardest workers of all, interestingly, were the East Indian women.
>Why would I be racist?
>I was born in Chicago with a large black
>population and never had any confrontations with them.
That's impossible, you have confrontations with /everybody/.
> I used to take
>the Metra rail into downtown when I was 13 with a friend of mine and we
>talked to them all the time, back in 1962. They were actually very nice
>to us since they knew that as kids, we knew nothing about civil rights
>or discrimination.
>Brickston, You have the problem.
I'm not the one using racist language, you are.
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Date: 29 Aug 2006 20:40:50
From: Bill Baka
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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R Brickston wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 19:15:47 GMT, Bill Baka <bbaka@syix.com> wrote:
>
>> Bill Sornson wrote:
>>> R Brickston wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:37:51 GMT, Bill Baka <bbaka@syix.com> wrote:
>>>>> Again, you prove your stupidity. That word applies equally well to
>>>>> white people as
>>>> That is complete crap. If someone used it on me, I would burst out
>>>> laughing. To use the "N Word" on a white is completely meaningless.
>>>>> I have known some that fit the definition.
>>>> What's the definition of the "N Word," you racist piece of shit.
>>> Ask Robert Byrd.
>>>
>>>
>> I do have black friends as well as white and while they tend to not like
>> the 'N' word they do agree with me that they have seen a lot of white
>> "N's". I am not racist and in fact my locker mate in high school was the
>> only African-American kid in the whole school at the time.
>
> Typical racist excuse.
True story. I defended him against some of the actually prejudiced kids
there, but didn't hang out much with him. We had lunch in the cafeteria
but I never saw him after school.
>
>> Eric
>> Washington was about half white and one of the nicest kids in my school,
>> better than I can say about some of the white assholes that went there.
>> I have a problem with all the illegal Mexicans that won't bother to
>> learn English, causing me to lose a few job offers because I didn't
>> speak Spanish. I try to be nice to them and help them out but it is a
>> bit hard to communicate with hand signals and only a half dozen words
>> that I know or they know of English. I have worked with blacks,
>> Mexicans, Chinese, East Indians, and more. The Chinese and East Indians
>> at least bothered to learn English and the blacks were born here. The
>> hardest workers of all, interestingly, were the East Indian women.
>> Why would I be racist?
>
>> I was born in Chicago with a large black
>> population and never had any confrontations with them.
>
> That's impossible, you have confrontations with /everybody/.
Only on this group, rarely in person unless I run into a blathering
asshole, or an asshole driver while riding my bike, who gets the one
finger salute.
>
>
>> I used to take
>> the Metra rail into downtown when I was 13 with a friend of mine and we
>> talked to them all the time, back in 1962. They were actually very nice
>> to us since they knew that as kids, we knew nothing about civil rights
>> or discrimination.
>
>> Brickston, You have the problem.
>
> I'm not the one using racist language, you are.
The 'N' word, which I did not use to refer to blacks, does apply to some
white people, as some of my black acquaintances have agreed with.
It depends on the context.
Bill Baka
>
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Date: 29 Aug 2006 01:19:37
From: Bill Baka
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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greggery peccary wrote:
>> Ick, I take it you have one of those where it's a shared pool of
>> sick/vacation/holiday days?
>>
>
> no, worse. separately accrued but not allowed to use.
>
>
So they want you to come in sick and get everyone else sick too?
Kind of a stupid policy. I have worked at a few places where I went to
work sick and they told me to go home rather than spread the joy.
I got paid too, and not penalized, and those companies had some of the
best actual attendance records because they would not let anybody who
looked even remotely contagious to work. That was back in the 80's and
now they want their 50-60 hour weeks no matter what. Now I am self
employed and don't have to call myself in sick. <grin >
Bill Baka
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Date: 28 Aug 2006 16:08:01
From: greggery peccary
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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"Dane Buson" <dane@unseen.edu > wrote in message
news:7g5cs3-ugv.ln1@zuvembi.homelinux.org...
> greggery peccary <dinkylittleoffice@bigswifty.com> wrote:
>
> > 2. last year once when i was feeling sick i borrowed my wife's car (ya
they
> > give us sick time at work but then punish us for using it-my employer is
the
> > University of Washington if you are wondering- so we just go into work
> > sick).
>
> Ick, I take it you have one of those where it's a shared pool of
> sick/vacation/holiday days?
>
> > anyway i feel i have about 10 more years of bike commuting to atone
> > for all the car commuting i did before-but maybe i should subtract the
years
> > of pizza delivery, a critical service.
>
> A noble cause in the general case. Too bad there is very little pizza
> in Seattle worth delivering.
>
> --
lol, no shit! pagliacci's not bad though, depending on the location...and
tutta bella has that great sauce but this is no NYC.
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Date: 29 Aug 2006 00:22:17
From: Paul Hobson
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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>> greggery peccary <dinkylittleoffice@bigswifty.com> wrote:
>>> anyway i feel i have about 10 more years of bike commuting to atone
>>> for all the car commuting i did before-but maybe i should subtract the
>>> years of pizza delivery, a critical service.
> "Dane Buson" <dane@unseen.edu> wrote in message
>> A noble cause in the general case. Too bad there is very little pizza
>> in Seattle worth delivering.
greggery peccary wrote:
> lol, no shit! pagliacci's not bad though, depending on the location...and
> tutta bella has that great sauce but this is no NYC.
[zips up flame suit]
NYC pizza is awful. Like most aspects of that city, it's all talk based
on the assumption that it's the "best city in the world." I'll take
Chicago...or even Atlanta pizza over NYC any day.
[ducks]
\\paul
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Date: 28 Aug 2006 21:56:32
From: greggery peccary
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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"Paul Hobson" <fobson@gatech.edu > wrote in message
news:ed0fdt$q7k$1@news-int.gatech.edu...
> >> greggery peccary <dinkylittleoffice@bigswifty.com> wrote:
> >>> anyway i feel i have about 10 more years of bike commuting to atone
> >>> for all the car commuting i did before-but maybe i should subtract the
> >>> years of pizza delivery, a critical service.
>
> > "Dane Buson" <dane@unseen.edu> wrote in message
> >> A noble cause in the general case. Too bad there is very little pizza
> >> in Seattle worth delivering.
>
> greggery peccary wrote:
> > lol, no shit! pagliacci's not bad though, depending on the
location...and
> > tutta bella has that great sauce but this is no NYC.
>
> [zips up flame suit]
>
> NYC pizza is awful. Like most aspects of that city, it's all talk based
> on the assumption that it's the "best city in the world." I'll take
> Chicago...or even Atlanta pizza over NYC any day.
> [ducks]
> \\paul
<pizza pan flies overhead > lol. never been to chicago but hear it's a very
bicycle friendly town.
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Date: 29 Aug 2006 01:31:57
From: Paul Hobson
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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greggery peccary wrote:
> "Paul Hobson" <fobson@gatech.edu> wrote in message
>> [zips up flame suit]
>>
>> NYC pizza is awful. Like most aspects of that city, it's all talk based
>> on the assumption that it's the "best city in the world." I'll take
>> Chicago...or even Atlanta pizza over NYC any day.
>> [ducks]
>> \\paul
>
> <pizza pan flies overhead> lol. never been to chicago but hear it's a very
> bicycle friendly town.
My band went on tour this summer [1] and I must say, I probably saw more
cyclists there than any other town save Portland and Seattle. And I'd
be more than confident that I witnessed about equal percentages of
cyclists in all three of those cities.
Cycling aside, Chicago was a very lovely place. If it wasn't cold and
windy, it'd be high on my list of places to live in once I graduate for
real.
[1]http://www.flickr.com/photos/p_myron_h/sets/72157594254367655/
--
Paul M. Hobson
Georgia Institute of Technology
.:change the f to ph to reply:.
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Date: 28 Aug 2006 23:28:13
From: greggery peccary
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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"Paul Hobson" <fobson@gatech.edu > wrote in message
news:ed0jge$n58$1@news-int2.gatech.edu...
> greggery peccary wrote:
> > "Paul Hobson" <fobson@gatech.edu> wrote in message
> >> [zips up flame suit]
> >>
> >> NYC pizza is awful. Like most aspects of that city, it's all talk
based
> >> on the assumption that it's the "best city in the world." I'll take
> >> Chicago...or even Atlanta pizza over NYC any day.
> >> [ducks]
> >> \\paul
> >
> > <pizza pan flies overhead> lol. never been to chicago but hear it's a
very
> > bicycle friendly town.
>
> My band went on tour this summer [1] and I must say, I probably saw more
> cyclists there than any other town save Portland and Seattle. And I'd
> be more than confident that I witnessed about equal percentages of
> cyclists in all three of those cities.
>
> Cycling aside, Chicago was a very lovely place. If it wasn't cold and
> windy, it'd be high on my list of places to live in once I graduate for
> real.
>
> [1]http://www.flickr.com/photos/p_myron_h/sets/72157594254367655/
>
> --
actually i have been there...sleeping under the plastic seats at ohare at
4am. not the best tour.
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 08:33:52
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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In article <U8KdnQh5lI_hUHDZnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@giganews.com >,
"Ken C. M." <ken@up-yours-spammer.net > writes:
> A couple for you:
>
> 1) How often do you get asked "Do you have a license?"
> 2) When was the last time you drove your MV to work or school?
>
> The reason these I ask these question is this. The other day while at
> work I had a small conversation with a co-worker about how far people
> are willing to drive to work, the price of gasoline and the mileage cars
> get. And at one point I commented on a car I would like to own, but
> costs more than I am willing to lay out for that type of car, and my
> co-worked asked "Do you have a license?", to which I replied yes, and
> then she said "So why do you ride your bicycle everywhere?". I said to
> save money on gasoline, to get exercise and to cut down on the our
> dependence on oil. She said "Oh, I thought you couldn't drive or
> something." to which I said yeah that is a common misconception about
> people that use bicycles as transportation.
Heck, I /brag/ about never having had a driver's license and
never having driven at all because I've never needed all that
razmatazz. So if anyone wants to ask me if I have a license,
I guess I preempt that question.
Sometimes I tell 'em I don't drive because I'm peripatetic.
Then they respond with a nod of faux understanding.
cheers,
Tom
--
-- Nothing is safe from me.
Above address is just a spam midden.
I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca
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Date: 26 Aug 2006 19:23:34
From: greggery peccary
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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"Tom Keats" <tkeats2005@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:095nce.2bl2.ln@vcn.bc.ca...
> In article <U8KdnQh5lI_hUHDZnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> "Ken C. M." <ken@up-yours-spammer.net> writes:
>> A couple for you:
>>
>
> Sometimes I tell 'em I don't drive because I'm peripatetic.
> Then they respond with a nod of faux understanding.
>
lol, i wikie'd (faux encyclopedia) peripatetic and it says "Such accounts
also suggest that sometimes these "followers" were known for their use of
drink and unruly behavior".
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 21:51:27
From: Jonathan Kaplan
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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I just started bicycle commuting. I live three miles from my office. I take
my suit and shoes in a two wheel gear garment bag (excellent product BTW)
and change when I get to the office. It takes me 15 minutes by bike vs 10
minutes by car. I found a low traffic route over a bicycle bridge that
eliminates all but about two blocks of a busy streets.
I'm guilty of being a fair weather rider. When it was 95 degrees with 90%
humidity, I took the car for a week. Today as I was about to leave the
house, I heard a rumble of thunder and went back in and took the car.
By Monday, weather permitting, I'll be back on schedule. I feel like a pilot
who has to take the daily weather conditions into account before starting
the flight.
Since people see me in a car and bike, they know I have a license. I now
laugh at the prospect of $5.00 per gallon future gas prices (it just dipped
to $2.71 in NJ today anyway). It's nice to get in 30 minutes a day of
exercise without trying too hard.
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Date: 26 Aug 2006 20:15:56
From: Patrick Lamb
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 21:51:27 -0400, "Jonathan Kaplan"
<insure10@yahoo.com > wrote:
>
>By Monday, weather permitting, I'll be back on schedule. I feel like a pilot
>who has to take the daily weather conditions into account before starting
>the flight.
I check the weather more frequently during cold weather. But in the
winter, I want to know what I'm getting into so I can dress for it.
Do I need the jacket or tights (and which ones)? Is it cold enough
for long gloves? In the summer it's just hot.
Pat
Email address works as is.
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Date: 28 Aug 2006 13:30:16
From: jdsingleton
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 20:15:56 -0500, Patrick Lamb
<pdl678NOSPAM@comcast.net > wrote:
>On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 21:51:27 -0400, "Jonathan Kaplan"
><insure10@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>By Monday, weather permitting, I'll be back on schedule. I feel like a pilot
>>who has to take the daily weather conditions into account before starting
>>the flight.
>
>I check the weather more frequently during cold weather. But in the
>winter, I want to know what I'm getting into so I can dress for it.
>Do I need the jacket or tights (and which ones)? Is it cold enough
>for long gloves? In the summer it's just hot.
I sometimes tell people commuting by bike has turned me into a Weather
Channel junkie. My morning routine is to get up, turn on the Weather
Channel, and check e-mail. Sometimes on a day off, I'll end up working
on the computer and have it on for a couple of hours.
Jim
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Date: 28 Aug 2006 15:01:35
From: Dane Buson
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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jdsingleton <jdsingleton@earthlink.net > wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 20:15:56 -0500, Patrick Lamb
>>
>>I check the weather more frequently during cold weather. But in the
>>winter, I want to know what I'm getting into so I can dress for it.
>>Do I need the jacket or tights (and which ones)? Is it cold enough
>>for long gloves? In the summer it's just hot.
>
> I sometimes tell people commuting by bike has turned me into a Weather
> Channel junkie. My morning routine is to get up, turn on the Weather
> Channel, and check e-mail. Sometimes on a day off, I'll end up working
> on the computer and have it on for a couple of hours.
I just check the temperature on the news ticker on the Squeezebox and
take a glance outside to see if it's raining. The weather doesn't
really vary hugely day-to-day here in the Pacific Northwet. What I used
yesterday is probably about what I'll use today.
--
Dane Buson - sigdane@unixbigots.org
The man with the best job in the country is the Vice President. All he has
to do is get up every morning and say, "How's the President?"
-- Will Rogers
The vice-presidency ain't worth a pitcher of warm spit.
-- Vice President John Nance Garner
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Date: 26 Aug 2006 07:13:38
From: Ken C. M.
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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Jonathan Kaplan wrote:
> I just started bicycle commuting. I live three miles from my office. I take
> my suit and shoes in a two wheel gear garment bag (excellent product BTW)
> and change when I get to the office. It takes me 15 minutes by bike vs 10
> minutes by car. I found a low traffic route over a bicycle bridge that
> eliminates all but about two blocks of a busy streets.
>
> I'm guilty of being a fair weather rider. When it was 95 degrees with 90%
> humidity, I took the car for a week. Today as I was about to leave the
> house, I heard a rumble of thunder and went back in and took the car.
>
> By Monday, weather permitting, I'll be back on schedule. I feel like a pilot
> who has to take the daily weather conditions into account before starting
> the flight.
>
> Since people see me in a car and bike, they know I have a license. I now
> laugh at the prospect of $5.00 per gallon future gas prices (it just dipped
> to $2.71 in NJ today anyway). It's nice to get in 30 minutes a day of
> exercise without trying too hard.
>
>
Sounds kind of like my commute also. I live three miles from my work.
About half of which is through a local neighborhood. I work in casual
cloths which I wear for the ride in, I ride slow enough where I hardly
break a sweat, so I don't need to change cloths when I get there. The
only time I change is if it is raining on my way in.
Ken
--
Messengers and mountain bikers share a common chromosome. ~James Bethea
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 11:47:02
From: recycled-one
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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"Tom Keats" <tkeats2005@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:095nce.2bl2.ln@vcn.bc.ca...
> In article <U8KdnQh5lI_hUHDZnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@giganews.com>,
> "Ken C. M." <ken@up-yours-spammer.net> writes:
>> my
>> co-worked asked "Do you have a license?", to which I replied yes, and
>> then she said "So why do you ride your bicycle everywhere?". I said to
>> save money on gasoline, to get exercise and to cut down on the our
>> dependence on oil. She said "Oh, I thought you couldn't drive or
>> something." to which I said yeah that is a common misconception about
>> people that use bicycles as transportation.
>
> Heck, I /brag/ about never having had a driver's license and
> never having driven at all because I've never needed all that
> razmatazz. So if anyone wants to ask me if I have a license,
> I guess I preempt that question.
When I had some eye surgery scheduled people at work assumed that I didn't
drive because of vision problems. In reality my vision before the procedure
was well within the requirements for a license.
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 06:55:26
From: Kenny
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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Ken C. M. wrote:
> A couple for you:
>
> 1) How often do you get asked "Do you have a license?"
> 2) When was the last time you drove your MV to work or school?
>
> The reason these I ask these question is this. The other day while at
> work I had a small conversation with a co-worker about how far people
> are willing to drive to work, the price of gasoline and the mileage cars
> get. And at one point I commented on a car I would like to own, but
> costs more than I am willing to lay out for that type of car, and my
> co-worked asked "Do you have a license?", to which I replied yes, and
> then she said "So why do you ride your bicycle everywhere?". I said to
> save money on gasoline, to get exercise and to cut down on the our
> dependence on oil. She said "Oh, I thought you couldn't drive or
> something." to which I said yeah that is a common misconception about
> people that use bicycles as transportation.
>
> Ken
> --
> Messengers and mountain bikers share a common chromosome. ~James Bethea
When people ask me why don't I drive I reply by asking the question
"What for?" I live within easy riding distance to work or shop. Being
practical, I would only drive if it were the most cost and time
efficient way of getting there. A lot of the time I ask people why
don't they ride a bike to get to wherever they're going. I ask them
this because in those occasions a bike would be the most efficient way.
Many times I get an answer like, " are you kidding !?! I must live at
least 8 block from here !!" To which I reply, " G-whiz, you are lame."
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 08:31:16
From: dgk
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 12:02:02 -0400, "Ken C. M."
<ken@up-yours-spammer.net > wrote:
>A couple for you:
>
>1) How often do you get asked "Do you have a license?"
>2) When was the last time you drove your MV to work or school?
>
>The reason these I ask these question is this. The other day while at
>work I had a small conversation with a co-worker about how far people
>are willing to drive to work, the price of gasoline and the mileage cars
>get. And at one point I commented on a car I would like to own, but
>costs more than I am willing to lay out for that type of car, and my
>co-worked asked "Do you have a license?", to which I replied yes, and
>then she said "So why do you ride your bicycle everywhere?". I said to
>save money on gasoline, to get exercise and to cut down on the our
>dependence on oil. She said "Oh, I thought you couldn't drive or
>something." to which I said yeah that is a common misconception about
>people that use bicycles as transportation.
>
>Ken
I can't really drive to work since I work in Manhattan and parking is
just too expensive for normal situations, but I doubt commuting by
bike ends up being cheaper than taking the bus and train. Until I
count in the health benefits of majorly lowering my cholesterol and
raising the HDL, that is. The funny thing is that commuting by bike
takes almost exactly the same amount of time as taking public
transportation. I can't read while biking but I don't need to go to
the gym when I get home either.
The only time the license question arose was when I was unlocking my
bike and someone noticed the car remote on my keychain and asked if I
owned a car also, which I do.
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 15:34:17
From: Claire Petersky
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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"dgk" <dgk@somewhere.com > wrote in message
news:82rte2ti5ltorqbim7dotbmoudkgfqaejv@4ax.com...
> but I doubt commuting by
> bike ends up being cheaper than taking the bus and train.
Since my employer subsidizes everyone's bus/train/ferry pass, there's really
no out-of-pocket expense for those taking public transportation at my work
place.
> The funny thing is that commuting by bike
> takes almost exactly the same amount of time as taking public
> transportation.
I get a kick out of "racing" the buses. They clearly go faster on the HOV
lane on the freeway, but on city streets, it's a wash. The 225 route is the
one that most closely parallels my ride home. I will always beat it out on
the predominately downhill direction; uphill, it depends on lights and
traffic.
--
Warm Regards,
Claire Petersky
http://www.bicyclemeditations.org/
See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky
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Date: 26 Aug 2006 19:20:11
From: greggery peccary
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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"Claire Petersky" <cpetersky@mouse-potato.com > wrote in message
news:ZLEHg.10206$Qf.3104@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> "dgk" <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> news:82rte2ti5ltorqbim7dotbmoudkgfqaejv@4ax.com...
>
>> but I doubt commuting by
> I get a kick out of "racing" the buses. They clearly go faster on the HOV
> lane on the freeway, but on city streets, it's a wash. The 225 route is
> the one that most closely parallels my ride home. I will always beat it
> out on the predominately downhill direction; uphill, it depends on lights
> and traffic.
>
ya i can beat the bus downtown in the afternoon, but coming home uphill at
midnight its another story...
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 12:12:19
From: jdsingleton
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 12:02:02 -0400, "Ken C. M."
<ken@up-yours-spammer.net > wrote:
>A couple for you:
>
>1) How often do you get asked "Do you have a license?"
I've never been asked if I had one; but, I have had people comment, "I
didn't know you had a license."
>2) When was the last time you drove your MV to work or school?
About 7-1/2 years ago, a few months before I got rid of it.
Jim
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 05:48:10
From: Earl Bollinger
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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"Ken C. M." <ken@up-yours-spammer.net > wrote in message
news:U8KdnQh5lI_hUHDZnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>A couple for you:
>
> 1) How often do you get asked "Do you have a license?"
> 2) When was the last time you drove your MV to work or school?
>
snip
>
> Ken
> --
Nope never got asked that question yet.
I had to drive the last couple of days, I had to work on my "lunch bike"
that I keep at work, thunderstorms lately every day late in the afternoon.
Plus I didn't want to get injured just before this weekend's HHH ride in
Wichita Falls Texas. :-)
Next week back to normal.
But people have been totally astonished that I could commute by bicycle to
and from work regularly. Something they simply consider impossible.
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 10:24:00
From: Alexander Harth
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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"Ken C. M." <ken@up-yours-spammer.net > wrote:
> A couple for you:
>
> 1) How often do you get asked "Do you have a license?"
Never
>"Claire Petersky" <cpetersky@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>
>> This may be less of an issue when nearly everyone at your
>> workplace takes public transportation to work.
Same here, about 10% of employees commute by bike (in summer),
20% by car. So here everyone is used to this scenario.
> 2) When was the last time you drove your MV to work or
> school?
In Febrary if I remember correctly. I had a private date after
work which was more far away than my preferred biking radius
(15km).
Yours
Alexander
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 01:21:43
From: Paul Hobson
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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Ken C. M. wrote:
> A couple for you:
>
> 1) How often do you get asked "Do you have a license?"
Well, the question's always a little different for me. Typically, I
get, "Wait, you know how to drive!?!" But I'd say that happens about
half of the time that a relation with someone goes from acquaintance to
"someone I know fairly well."
> 2) When was the last time you drove your MV to work or school?
Friday. I had to go to orientation at school and with the rest of my
schedule wouldn't have time to take a shower, but had to be there during
prime sweat time. I try to make events of it and stop by stores and get
the big things I've needed.
--
Paul M. Hobson
Georgia Institute of Technology
.:change the f to ph to reply:.
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 05:24:42
From: mark
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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Ken C. M. wrote:
> A couple for you:
>
> 1) How often do you get asked "Do you have a license?"
Never (my job requires a driver's license) but after 2 years at my
present job there were still a few people around who thought I didn't
own a car (I do).
> 2) When was the last time you drove your MV to work or school?
It's been over a month. I probably drive my car to work about 10-20
times a year.
A lady at work is dabbling in MTB racing, she goes for training rides
before work, then drives her car into work with the bike still on the
roof rack.
k
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 15:58:09
From: Bill Baka
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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k wrote:
> Ken C. M. wrote:
>> A couple for you:
>>
>> 1) How often do you get asked "Do you have a license?"
>
> Never (my job requires a driver's license) but after 2 years at my
> present job there were still a few people around who thought I didn't
> own a car (I do).
>> 2) When was the last time you drove your MV to work or school?
>
> It's been over a month. I probably drive my car to work about 10-20
> times a year.
>
> A lady at work is dabbling in MTB racing, she goes for training rides
> before work, then drives her car into work with the bike still on the
> roof rack.
>
> k
I had a job that was 150 miles from home so I stayed there all week and
took a mountain bike to keep there for workday riding. Since I stayed in
a motel only about 1 mile away I rode the bike to work every day and
then rode around a mountain (985 feet) at lunch, then explored all the
vineyard mountain roads after work. On the weekend I just left the bike
in the rack inside the building since they were bike friendly. The only
hassle I ever got was from one of the 3 roadies, who was the company
jerk anyway. He complained that my 'junk' MTB might scratch his
expensive road bike when I parked it next to his. Guess what I told him?
They only saw my car on Monday mornings and Friday afternoons when I had
to make the long drive home. Great job until 9/11 took down the company
in November.
Bill Baka
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 03:36:32
From: Ron Wallenfang
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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"Ken C. M." <ken@up-yours-spammer.net > wrote :
>
> 1) How often do you get asked "Do you have a license?"
Maybe a couple times ever.
> 2) When was the last time you drove your MV to work or school?
Once or twice a month, when work commitments demand. But I get in some bike
riding in the course of each day. My current streak dates to Aug, 6, 2005
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 02:59:10
From: Claire Petersky
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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"Ken C. M." <ken@up-yours-spammer.net > wrote in message
news:U8KdnQh5lI_hUHDZnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>A couple for you:
>
> 1) How often do you get asked "Do you have a license?"
Never.
> 2) When was the last time you drove your MV to work or school?
Hm. I don't ride just before big events (centuries and the like), and every
so once in a while I have something big to haul in or out, so I take the
bus. But *drove* all the way to work, and then parked there? My husband's on
the other computer, so I just had him search on our home accounting
software. There was a charge for some time in January 2005, according to
those records. It costs $25/day to park at my building.
> The reason these I ask these question is this. The other day while at work
> I had a small conversation with a co-worker about
[conversation snipped]
This may be less of an issue when nearly everyone at your workplace takes
public transportation to work. There's two employees that I know of, of
about 65, who drive. Then there's four bike commuters, including me. Riding
your bike to work is less of a novelty; not driving is the norm.
--
Warm Regards,
Claire Petersky
http://www.bicyclemeditations.org/
See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 00:05:33
From: Mike Kruger
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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"Ken C. M." <ken@up-yours-spammer.net > wrote in message
news:U8KdnQh5lI_hUHDZnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>A couple for you:
>
> 1) How often do you get asked "Do you have a license?"
I've never been asked this, that I remember
> 2) When was the last time you drove your MV to work or school?
Last December, when I had to drive out to a client presentation. However, on
non-bike days I take the train in.
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Date: 24 Aug 2006 16:58:49
From:
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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mike vore wrote:
> Ken C. M. wrote:
>
> > The reason these I ask these question is this. The other day while at
> > work I had a small conversation with a co-worker about how far people
> > are willing to drive to work, the price of gasoline and the mileage cars
> > get.
>
> I ride around town for exercise and all sorts of quick errands - things that
> don't need a car for carrying packages back home. No, I've never been asked
> the license question.
>
> But for saving money - gas is cheaper. One trip that pointed that out was a 20
> mile trip to the hardware store, then to the Computer store. Yes, it saved
> about a gallon of gas, but the stop at the convenience store for food and
> drink cost about twice what gas would have cost. And I would have been home in
> about 1/3 the time - no refreshment stop needed.
Isn't a bottle of water adequate for a 20 mile ride?
> Long distance riding isn't cheap when you look at the number of stops for
> G-Ade and a piece of pie.
For a 100 mile ride that takes me all day (lots of hills, and I am
slow), I pack 2-3 PBJ sandwiches, and 2-3 bananas and granola bars, as
well as gatorade powder. As long as there is water along the way, I am
all set, and spend almost nothing all day.
Riding is cheap, for long or short distances. If you want to, you can
always find ways to spend extra money. I often ride past the local
Starbucks, and see lots of nice bicycles parked outside.
I ride to work 2-4 times a week (12 miles each way), and drive at least
once a week to stock up on clothes at work. My commute takes 45 minutes
on a bike, and 25 minutes driving. So, for 20 minutes extra, I get 45
minutes of exercise, which is a real bargain.
I typically drive to stores, though I do ride sometimes. No one has
asked me if I have a license. At work, a few people have asked me about
riding to work, and a few have actually tried it themselves once I
explained the advantages (fun, health/exercise, environment, cost - in
that order).
Atri
>
>
> --
> Mike Vore
> http://www.OhMyWoodness.com
> http://mike.vorefamily.net/twr
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Date: 24 Aug 2006 17:08:11
From: mike vore
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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Ken C. M. wrote:
> The reason these I ask these question is this. The other day while at
> work I had a small conversation with a co-worker about how far people
> are willing to drive to work, the price of gasoline and the mileage cars
> get.
I ride around town for exercise and all sorts of quick errands - things that
don't need a car for carrying packages back home. No, I've never been asked
the license question.
But for saving money - gas is cheaper. One trip that pointed that out was a 20
mile trip to the hardware store, then to the Computer store. Yes, it saved
about a gallon of gas, but the stop at the convenience store for food and
drink cost about twice what gas would have cost. And I would have been home in
about 1/3 the time - no refreshment stop needed.
Long distance riding isn't cheap when you look at the number of stops for
G-Ade and a piece of pie.
--
Mike Vore
http://www.OhMyWoodness.com
http://mike.vorefamily.net/twr
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Date: 24 Aug 2006 13:17:55
From: Ken C. M.
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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mike vore wrote:
> Ken C. M. wrote:
>
>
>>The reason these I ask these question is this. The other day while at
>>work I had a small conversation with a co-worker about how far people
>>are willing to drive to work, the price of gasoline and the mileage cars
>>get.
>
>
> I ride around town for exercise and all sorts of quick errands - things that
> don't need a car for carrying packages back home. No, I've never been asked
> the license question.
>
> But for saving money - gas is cheaper. One trip that pointed that out was a 20
> mile trip to the hardware store, then to the Computer store. Yes, it saved
> about a gallon of gas, but the stop at the convenience store for food and
> drink cost about twice what gas would have cost. And I would have been home in
> about 1/3 the time - no refreshment stop needed.
>
> Long distance riding isn't cheap when you look at the number of stops for
> G-Ade and a piece of pie.
>
>
Yeah I give you that one about longer trips. But most of mine are short
trips. 2 miles here, 3 miles to the other place, 3 miles to work, 4
miles to that other place etc. etc. etc. Now if I did mulitple places in
one trip I would probably have to stop and rehydrate and refuel (my body
that is) but I mostly plan just short trips to avoid that.
Ken
--
Messengers and mountain bikers share a common chromosome. ~James Bethea
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Date: 24 Aug 2006 16:46:09
From: Gooserider
Subject: Re: Questions for commuters
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"Ken C. M." <ken@up-yours-spammer.net > wrote in message
news:U8KdnQh5lI_hUHDZnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>A couple for you:
>
> 1) How often do you get asked "Do you have a license?"
> 2) When was the last time you drove your MV to work or school?
>
> The reason these I ask these question is this. The other day while at work
> I had a small conversation with a co-worker about how far people are
> willing to drive to work, the price of gasoline and the mileage cars get.
> And at one point I commented on a car I would like to own, but costs more
> than I am willing to lay out for that type of car, and my co-worked asked
> "Do you have a license?", to which I replied yes, and then she said "So
> why do you ride your bicycle everywhere?". I said to save money on
> gasoline, to get exercise and to cut down on the our dependence on oil.
> She said "Oh, I thought you couldn't drive or something." to which I said
> yeah that is a common misconception about people that use bicycles as
> transportation.
>
I get odd looks when I use my bike to do errands. I was locking up at the
grocery store, and a clerk who was smoking outside asked me if I had my
license. I drive to work once a week. I use that day to bring in uniforms
and socks/underwear.
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