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Date: 25 Oct 2007 11:02:28
From: Claire
Subject: Rain Jacket removal survey
Can you remove a rain jacket while riding?

A. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, no handed, because I am
very skilled
B. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, one handed, because I am
skilled
C. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, keeping both hands on the
handlebars at all times, because I am Houdini
D. I can not remove a rain jacket while riding
E. I do not wear rain jackets because I am a wuss and never ride in
the rain
F. I do not wear rain jackets because my highly expensive bike is too
delicate to ride in the rain.
G. E and F above
H. Other: (specify)

If you answered A, B, or C above, then please answer the next one:

Can you remove a rain jacket and still keep on your reflective
commuting vest?

A. I can remove a rain jacket still keep my reflective commuting vest
on, while riding no handed
B. I can remove a rain jacket and still keep my reflective commuting
vest on, while riding one handed
C. I can remove a rain jacket and still keep my reflective commuting
vest on, and keep both hands on the handlebars at all times, because I
am Houdini
D. While I can remove a rain jacket while riding, I can not do so and
keep on my reflective commuter vest at the same time; I have to take
off one and then the other.
E. I never ride in low light conditions, so I have no need for a
reflective commuter vest
F. Reflective commuter vests are for Freds and Dorks

Thank you for your replies.

Warm Regards,

Claire





 
Date: 29 Oct 2007 23:44:07
From:
Subject: Re: Rain Jacket removal survey
On Oct 25, 11:02 am, Claire <cpeter...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Can you remove a rain jacket while riding?
>
> A. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, no handed, because I am
> very skilled
> B. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, one handed, because I am
> skilled
> C. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, keeping both hands on the
> handlebars at all times, because I am Houdini
> D. I can not remove a rain jacket while riding
> E. I do not wear rain jackets because I am a wuss and never ride in
> the rain
> F. I do not wear rain jackets because my highly expensive bike is too
> delicate to ride in the rain.
> G. E and F above
> H. Other: (specify)
>
> If you answered A, B, or C above, then please answer the next one:
>
> Can you remove a rain jacket and still keep on your reflective
> commuting vest?
>
> A. I can remove a rain jacket still keep my reflective commuting vest
> on, while riding no handed
> B. I can remove a rain jacket and still keep my reflective commuting
> vest on, while riding one handed
> C. I can remove a rain jacket and still keep my reflective commuting
> vest on, and keep both hands on the handlebars at all times, because I
> am Houdini
> D. While I can remove a rain jacket while riding, I can not do so and
> keep on my reflective commuter vest at the same time; I have to take
> off one and then the other.
> E. I never ride in low light conditions, so I have no need for a
> reflective commuter vest
> F. Reflective commuter vests are for Freds and Dorks
>
> Thank you for your replies.
>
> Warm Regards,
>
> Claire

I can do it but I don't recommend it. There are all kinds of ways to
wreck no handed, even without dangling jackets into your wheels.

Getting the jacket off is easy. Stuffing it into a backpack is
tougher.

Try that on a trail.

Robert



 
Date: 30 Oct 2007 05:52:06
From: Mike Jacoubowsky
Subject: Re: Rain Jacket removal survey
> A. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, no handed, because I am
> very skilled
> B. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, one handed, because I am
> skilled

In real life I think "B" is actually more difficult than "A". And while I
used to do "A" from time to time, I prefer a group stop (there are usually
4-7 of us on my every Tuesday & Thursday-morning no-matter-what ride). One
of our regulars is very good at putting things on & taking them off while
riding, but I've also watched that same person have part of his windbreaker
get sucked into his rear wheel, coming very, very close to causing a serious
crash.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com


"Claire" <cpetersky@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1193335348.404951.77760@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
> Can you remove a rain jacket while riding?
>
> A. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, no handed, because I am
> very skilled
> B. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, one handed, because I am
> skilled
> C. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, keeping both hands on the
> handlebars at all times, because I am Houdini
> D. I can not remove a rain jacket while riding
> E. I do not wear rain jackets because I am a wuss and never ride in
> the rain
> F. I do not wear rain jackets because my highly expensive bike is too
> delicate to ride in the rain.
> G. E and F above
> H. Other: (specify)
>
> If you answered A, B, or C above, then please answer the next one:
>
> Can you remove a rain jacket and still keep on your reflective
> commuting vest?
>
> A. I can remove a rain jacket still keep my reflective commuting vest
> on, while riding no handed
> B. I can remove a rain jacket and still keep my reflective commuting
> vest on, while riding one handed
> C. I can remove a rain jacket and still keep my reflective commuting
> vest on, and keep both hands on the handlebars at all times, because I
> am Houdini
> D. While I can remove a rain jacket while riding, I can not do so and
> keep on my reflective commuter vest at the same time; I have to take
> off one and then the other.
> E. I never ride in low light conditions, so I have no need for a
> reflective commuter vest
> F. Reflective commuter vests are for Freds and Dorks
>
> Thank you for your replies.
>
> Warm Regards,
>
> Claire
>
>




 
Date: 29 Oct 2007 23:16:21
From: Rex Kerr
Subject: Re: Rain Jacket removal survey
A, if I'm going fast enough, and I can even roll it up, reach down,
unzip my front pannier and put it away... that is, if I remember to
loosen the velcro at the base of the sleeve first! hahaha



 
Date: 28 Oct 2007 00:48:22
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: Rain Jacket removal survey
In article <qjv7i3977povk8cn5jc7ehfpf2l5h733rd@4ax.com >,
Zoot Katz <zootkatz@operamail.com > writes:

> I love this time of year when I'm carrying sunglasses and rain gear
> because it's just cloudy and could go one way or the other.

The mushroomes are hppening. Fog, without frost.

> Full finger gloves,

I

> an extra insulating or wind breaking layer and an
> ear warmer also get tucked into the pannier if I'm going to be out
> after dark.
>
> Changing all that gear on the fly could be the subject for a video
> that puts those BMX flat-landers and fixer trixters to shame.
>
> Well, I'm off a Halloween party at the bike shop (their 14th birthday
> celebration as well) . . . carrying my costume that I will be
> stopping to don. It's the same one I wore two years ago so most of
> the mechanics haven't yet seen it. It's a scary costume that
> incorporates a back lit saddle as the mask.

--
Nothing is safe from me.
I'm really at:
tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca


 
Date: 27 Oct 2007 12:39:29
From: It's Chris
Subject: Re: Rain Jacket removal survey

From: cpetersky@yahoo.com (Claire)

Can you remove a rain jacket while riding?

E. I do not wear rain jackets because...

the rain here in SC is usually warm, short, and modern synthetics dry
out fast enough. Besides, rain cleaned jerseys smell better than sweat
thats been trapped inside a rain jacket!

Thank you for your replies.
Warm Regards,
Claire

- -
Compliments of:
"Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"

If you want to E-mail me use:
ChrisZCorner "at" webtv "dot" net

My website:
http://geocities.com/czcorner



 
Date: 27 Oct 2007 03:35:44
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: Rain Jacket removal survey
In article <13i63p6cplpml24@news.supernews.com >,
"Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com > writes:
>
> "Claire" <cpetersky@yahoo.com> wrote
>
>> Can you remove a rain jacket while riding?
>> Can you remove a rain jacket and still keep on your reflective
>> commuting vest?
>
> Why in the hell would I want to do either of these things?

For when it suddenly stops raining, and being beneath
a rain jacket gets really, really hot & uncomfortable,
and there isn't a convenient spot to stop and pull into.


cheers,
Tom


--
Nothing is safe from me.
I'm really at:
tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca


 
Date: 25 Oct 2007 22:33:52
From: Roger Zoul
Subject: Re: Rain Jacket removal survey

"Claire" <cpetersky@yahoo.com > wrote

> Can you remove a rain jacket while riding?
> Can you remove a rain jacket and still keep on your reflective
> commuting vest?

Why in the hell would I want to do either of these things?




 
Date: 27 Oct 2007 02:44:13
From: marian.rosenberg@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Rain Jacket removal survey
On Oct 26, 2:02 am, Claire <cpeter...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Can you remove a rain jacket while riding?
>
> A. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, no handed, because I am
> very skilled
> B. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, one handed, because I am
> skilled
> C. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, keeping both hands on the
> handlebars at all times, because I am Houdini
> D. I can not remove a rain jacket while riding
> E. I do not wear rain jackets because I am a wuss and never ride in
> the rain
> F. I do not wear rain jackets because my highly expensive bike is too
> delicate to ride in the rain.
> G. E and F above
> H. Other: (specify)

I consider getting soaked to the skin one of the benefits of riding in
the rain and do not wear a rain jacket.

-M



 
Date: 26 Oct 2007 17:32:40
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Rain Jacket removal survey
On Oct 26, 7:43 am, dgk <d...@somewhere.com > wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:02:28 -0700, Claire <cpeter...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >Can you remove a rain jacket while riding?
>
> >A. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, no handed, because I am
> >very skilled
> >B. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, one handed, because I am
> >skilled
> >C. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, keeping both hands on the
> >handlebars at all times, because I am Houdini
> >D. I can not remove a rain jacket while riding
> >E. I do not wear rain jackets because I am a wuss and never ride in
> >the rain
> >F. I do not wear rain jackets because my highly expensive bike is too
> >delicate to ride in the rain.
> >G. E and F above
> >H. Other: (specify)
>
> >If you answered A, B, or C above, then please answer the next one:
>
> D.
>
> Not really true, I probably could do it 99% of the time. I just want
> to avoid that 1%.

Come on man, do it, don't be a pussy--I'll hold your beer and double
dawg dare ya!



 
Date: 26 Oct 2007 08:14:17
From: Hank Wirtz
Subject: Re: Rain Jacket removal survey
On Oct 25, 11:02 am, Claire <cpeter...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Can you remove a rain jacket while riding?
>
> A. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, no handed, because I am
> very skilled
> B. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, one handed, because I am
> skilled
> C. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, keeping both hands on the
> handlebars at all times, because I am Houdini
> D. I can not remove a rain jacket while riding
> E. I do not wear rain jackets because I am a wuss and never ride in
> the rain
> F. I do not wear rain jackets because my highly expensive bike is too
> delicate to ride in the rain.
> G. E and F above
> H. Other: (specify)
>
> If you answered A, B, or C above, then please answer the next one:
>
> Can you remove a rain jacket and still keep on your reflective
> commuting vest?
>
> A. I can remove a rain jacket still keep my reflective commuting vest
> on, while riding no handed
> B. I can remove a rain jacket and still keep my reflective commuting
> vest on, while riding one handed
> C. I can remove a rain jacket and still keep my reflective commuting
> vest on, and keep both hands on the handlebars at all times, because I
> am Houdini
> D. While I can remove a rain jacket while riding, I can not do so and
> keep on my reflective commuter vest at the same time; I have to take
> off one and then the other.
> E. I never ride in low light conditions, so I have no need for a
> reflective commuter vest
> F. Reflective commuter vests are for Freds and Dorks
>
> Thank you for your replies.
>
> Warm Regards,
>
> Claire

None of the above. My rain jacket is convertible to a vest. I can zip
off the sleeves and put them in my pockets with one hand on the bars.
Slightly more difficult if I'm wearing full-fingered gloves, getting
the sleeves unzipped.

If I then needed to take off the vest, I'd pull over to stash it in my
backpack.



 
Date: 26 Oct 2007 08:43:58
From: dgk
Subject: Re: Rain Jacket removal survey
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:02:28 -0700, Claire <cpetersky@yahoo.com >
wrote:

>Can you remove a rain jacket while riding?
>
>A. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, no handed, because I am
>very skilled
>B. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, one handed, because I am
>skilled
>C. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, keeping both hands on the
>handlebars at all times, because I am Houdini
>D. I can not remove a rain jacket while riding
>E. I do not wear rain jackets because I am a wuss and never ride in
>the rain
>F. I do not wear rain jackets because my highly expensive bike is too
>delicate to ride in the rain.
>G. E and F above
>H. Other: (specify)
>
>If you answered A, B, or C above, then please answer the next one:
>


D.

Not really true, I probably could do it 99% of the time. I just want
to avoid that 1%.


 
Date: 26 Oct 2007 03:01:01
From: Dennis P. Harris
Subject: Re: Rain Jacket removal survey
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:02:28 -0700 in rec.bicycles.misc, Claire
<cpetersky@yahoo.com > wrote:

> Can you remove a rain jacket while riding?
>
> B. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, one handed, because I am
> skilled
> If you answered A, B, or C above, then please answer the next one:
>
> Can you remove a rain jacket and still keep on your reflective
> commuting vest?
>
> F. Reflective commuter vests are for Freds and Dorks
>


 
Date: 26 Oct 2007 02:00:42
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: Rain Jacket removal survey
In article <1193335348.404951.77760@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com >,
Claire <cpetersky@yahoo.com > writes:
> Can you remove a rain jacket while riding?

...

> E. I do not wear rain jackets because I am a wuss and never ride in
> the rain
> F. I do not wear rain jackets because my highly expensive bike is too
> delicate to ride in the rain.

Heh. I don't wear a rain jacket, but I ride
in the rain. My $3.59 poncho from Canadian Tire
works pretty good. Just as good as the fancy
$15.oo one I got from Green World Electric Vehicles.

I can, while riding, bi-manually emancipate bees
from outa my t-shirts. In a matter of desperate
milliseconds.


cheers,
Tom

--
Nothing is safe from me.
I'm really at:
tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca


 
Date: 25 Oct 2007 21:55:57
From: Lynne Fitz
Subject: Re: Rain Jacket removal survey
D

However, I have seen it done, and the jacket neatly folded and put in
a rear pocket. Very impressive.

I think I'm doing well if I can sit up, extract a candy bar from my
handlebar bag and take a bite, then replace the remaining candy bar in
my handlebar bag side pocket.

On Oct 25, 11:02 am, Claire <cpeter...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Can you remove a rain jacket while riding?
>
> A. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, no handed, because I am
> very skilled
> B. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, one handed, because I am
> skilled
> C. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, keeping both hands on the
> handlebars at all times, because I am Houdini
> D. I can not remove a rain jacket while riding



 
Date: 26 Oct 2007 03:49:20
From: Mark Shroyer
Subject: Re: Rain Jacket removal survey
On 2007-10-25, Claire <cpetersky@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Can you remove a rain jacket while riding?

H. I am a starving college student who doesn't have a "real"
cycling-oriented rain jacket; I use an old anorak when it rains,
which I need two hands and a foot to get myself out of.

> Can you remove a rain jacket and still keep on your reflective
> commuting vest?

Not that I'd knock anybody for wearing a commuting vest, but I've
never seen the need for one myself. Actually, even if I wanted to
wear one it would be obscured by my backpack or messenger bag, as
these are how I best carry things on my segmented commute to, from,
and across campus and greater Gainesville. (My backpack had some
self-adhesive reflective strips, but they came off... I should
probably see to that now that I think of it...)

--
Mark Shroyer
http://markshroyer.com/


  
Date: 27 Oct 2007 10:13:52
From: Claire Petersky
Subject: Re: Rain Jacket removal survey

"Mark Shroyer" <usenet-mail@markshroyer.com > wrote in message
news:slrnfi2ou0.mp.usenet-mail@sed.homestarmy.net...

> Not that I'd knock anybody for wearing a commuting vest, but I've
> never seen the need for one myself. Actually, even if I wanted to
> wear one it would be obscured by my backpack or messenger bag, as


I usually don't wear a backpack while on my bike, but when I have, I just
loosen up the straps on the commuter vest, and it usually fits right over
it. This is a strategy of someone I see coming the other way on a regualar
basis - a big yellow-orange thing he wears that goes over his backpack.

--
Warm Regards,

Claire Petersky
http://www.bicyclemeditations.org/
See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky




 
Date: 26 Oct 2007 03:26:32
From: Steve Gravrock
Subject: Re: Rain Jacket removal survey
On 2007-10-25, Claire <cpetersky@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Can you remove a rain jacket while riding?

I've never tried. Even if I could remove it while riding, I doubt I
could stuff it into my rack trunk without getting off the bike.


 
Date: 25 Oct 2007 21:49:31
From: Patrick Lamb
Subject: Re: Rain Jacket removal survey
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:02:28 -0700, Claire <cpetersky@yahoo.com >
wrote:

>Can you remove a rain jacket while riding?
>
>A. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, no handed, because I am
>very skilled
>B. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, one handed, because I am
>skilled
>C. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, keeping both hands on the
>handlebars at all times, because I am Houdini
>D. I can not remove a rain jacket while riding
>E. I do not wear rain jackets because I am a wuss and never ride in
>the rain
>F. I do not wear rain jackets because my highly expensive bike is too
>delicate to ride in the rain.
>G. E and F above
>H. Other: (specify)

D. Can't do it. Never really tried; I only wear a rain jacket when
it's cool enough I don't mind riding with it regardless of whether or
not free sweat is coming down from the sky. If it's over 60 F or so,
I just get wet.

Pat

Email address works as is.


 
Date: 25 Oct 2007 19:03:50
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Rain Jacket removal survey
Claire wrote:

> Can you remove a rain jacket while riding?

I live in San Diego.




  
Date: 27 Oct 2007 12:43:45
From: It's Chris
Subject: Re: Rain Jacket removal survey
From: askme@ask.me (Bill=A0Sornson)

>Claire wrote:
>>Can you remove a rain jacket while
>>riding?
>I live in San Diego.

Which mean you're currently wearing asbestos, not rain gear, adjust the
Q as necessary. ;-3) >

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"Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"

If you want to E-mail me use:
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My website:
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Date: 25 Oct 2007 20:53:56
From: Mike Kruger
Subject: Re: Rain Jacket removal survey
Claire wrote:
> Can you remove a rain jacket while riding?
>
> D. I can not remove a rain jacket while riding

Never tried, and don't intend to.




 
Date: 25 Oct 2007 20:37:21
From: David L. Johnson
Subject: Re: Rain Jacket removal survey
Claire wrote:
> Can you remove a rain jacket while riding?
>
> A. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, no handed, because I am
> very skilled

I can get it about halfway off, then have to reach for the bars. Very
awkward.

> Can you remove a rain jacket and still keep on your reflective
> commuting vest?

This is something like women who can remove their bras without removing
their sweater. I don't think men could do this.

> F. Reflective commuter vests are for Freds and Dorks

There you go. But your rain jacket is day-glow yellow, anyway, isn't it?

--

David L. Johnson

As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not
certain, and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality.
-- Albert Einstein


  
Date: 27 Oct 2007 10:22:52
From: Claire Petersky
Subject: Re: Rain Jacket removal survey
"David L. Johnson" <david.johnson@lehigh.edu > wrote in message
news:w4mdnUgHD9Vfq7zanZ2dnUVZ_uKpnZ2d@ptd.net...
> Claire wrote:

>> Can you remove a rain jacket and still keep on your reflective
>> commuting vest?
>
> This is something like women who can remove their bras without removing
> their sweater. I don't think men could do this.

It's a skill you develop born of necessity.

>> F. Reflective commuter vests are for Freds and Dorks
>
> There you go. But your rain jacket is day-glow yellow, anyway, isn't it?

I always buy mine on clearance, and so I'm stuck typically with the darker
colors that don't sell as well. My current rain jacket is sort of a dull
red, which you can see on my friend's blog, over here:
http://www.calnan-web.com/weblog/2007/03/31/march-recap/.

--
Warm Regards,

Claire Petersky
http://www.bicyclemeditations.org/
See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky




   
Date: 27 Oct 2007 12:19:15
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Rain Jacket removal survey
Claire Petersky wrote:
> "David L. Johnson" <david.johnson@lehigh.edu> wrote in message
> news:w4mdnUgHD9Vfq7zanZ2dnUVZ_uKpnZ2d@ptd.net...
>> Claire wrote:
>
>>> Can you remove a rain jacket and still keep on your reflective
>>> commuting vest?
>>
>> This is something like women who can remove their bras without
>> removing their sweater. I don't think men could do this.
>
> It's a skill you develop born of necessity.
>
>>> F. Reflective commuter vests are for Freds and Dorks
>>
>> There you go. But your rain jacket is day-glow yellow, anyway,
>> isn't it?
>
> I always buy mine on clearance, and so I'm stuck typically with the
> darker colors that don't sell as well. My current rain jacket is sort
> of a dull red, which you can see on my friend's blog, over here:
> http://www.calnan-web.com/weblog/2007/03/31/march-recap/.

Got enough water bottles? :-P




 
Date: 25 Oct 2007 16:59:59
From: Dane Buson
Subject: Re: Rain Jacket removal survey
Claire <cpetersky@yahoo.com > wrote:

> Can you remove a rain jacket while riding?
>
> A. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, no handed, because I am
> very skilled

With the qualifier that it is bike dependent. On my Crosscheck, no
problem. On my fixed gear, no problem. On my Xtracycle, impossible.

> If you answered A, B, or C above, then please answer the next one:
>
> Can you remove a rain jacket and still keep on your reflective
> commuting vest?
>
> F. Reflective commuter vests are for Freds and Dorks

Eh, I just don't generally wear one. Or alternately, my rainjacket has
enough reflective stuff that I don't need the reflectors.

--
Dane Buson - sigdane@unixbigots.org
A Dublin lawyer died in poverty and many barristers of the city subscribed to a
fund for his funeral. The Lord Chief Justice of Orbury was asked to donate a
shilling. "Only a shilling?" exclaimed the man. "Only a shilling to bury an
attorney? Here's a guinea; go and bury twenty of them."


 
Date: 25 Oct 2007 21:33:22
From:
Subject: Re: Rain Jacket removal survey
On Oct 25, 2:02 pm, Claire <cpeter...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Can you remove a rain jacket while riding?
>
> A. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, no handed, because I am
> very skilled

I don't know that I'm "very skilled." I just do it. It's no big
deal. Removing a rain cape while riding is harder, but I've done
that, too.

> F. Reflective commuter vests are for Freds and Dorks

I'm sure I'm considered a Fred by some riders. But reflective
commuter vests are not for me. I've never felt the need for one.

- Frank Krygowski



 
Date: 25 Oct 2007 14:15:47
From: Zoot Katz
Subject: Re: Rain Jacket removal survey
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:02:28 -0700, Claire <cpetersky@yahoo.com >
wrote in part:

>Can you remove a rain jacket while riding?
>
>A. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, no handed, because I am
>very skilled
>B. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, one handed, because I am
>skilled

I've removed wind breakers with full zippers while riding either no
hands or one hand as the situation allowed.
Wind breakers with only neck zippers pose a problem if your hat is
much larger than your head.

My rain jacket has pit zips to the waist. There's usually no need to
remove it until I'm stopped. Urban riding provides lots of
opportunities to stop.

Stashing the removed garment on the fly is best planned before
removing it. (yes)
\
>Can you remove a rain jacket and still keep on your reflective
>commuting vest?
>
\
>F. Reflective commuter vests are for Freds and Dorks

Reflective vests are for road side workers, thanks.
--
zk


  
Date: 27 Oct 2007 10:18:30
From: Claire Petersky
Subject: Re: Rain Jacket removal survey
"Zoot Katz" <zootkatz@operamail.com > wrote in message
news:6h02i3pl4brold953j29d3b3g0tqb4trfh@4ax.com...

> Urban riding provides lots of
> opportunities to stop.

What sometimes happens to me for the ride home from work is that I put the
jacket on before leaving the office, then find rather quickly that I want it
off. That's then the day where I make every single light through downtown
and Chinatown, and also make the lights crossing MLK and 23rd, which happens
only like, I don't know, once or twice a month?

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Warm Regards,

Claire Petersky
http://www.bicyclemeditations.org/
See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky




   
Date: 27 Oct 2007 20:31:08
From: Zoot Katz
Subject: Re: Rain Jacket removal survey
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 10:18:30 -0700, "Claire Petersky"
<cpetersky@mouse-potato.com > wrote:

>"Zoot Katz" <zootkatz@operamail.com> wrote in message
>news:6h02i3pl4brold953j29d3b3g0tqb4trfh@4ax.com...
>
>> Urban riding provides lots of
>> opportunities to stop.
>
>What sometimes happens to me for the ride home from work is that I put the
>jacket on before leaving the office, then find rather quickly that I want it
>off. That's then the day where I make every single light through downtown
>and Chinatown, and also make the lights crossing MLK and 23rd, which happens
>only like, I don't know, once or twice a month?

I love this time of year when I'm carrying sunglasses and rain gear
because it's just cloudy and could go one way or the other.

Full finger gloves, an extra insulating or wind breaking layer and an
ear warmer also get tucked into the pannier if I'm going to be out
after dark.

Changing all that gear on the fly could be the subject for a video
that puts those BMX flat-landers and fixer trixters to shame.

Well, I'm off a Halloween party at the bike shop (their 14th birthday
celebration as well) . . . carrying my costume that I will be
stopping to don. It's the same one I wore two years ago so most of
the mechanics haven't yet seen it. It's a scary costume that
incorporates a back lit saddle as the mask.
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zk


 
Date: 26 Oct 2007 06:56:11
From: Aeek
Subject: Re: Rain Jacket removal survey
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:02:28 -0700, Claire <cpetersky@yahoo.com >
wrote:

>Can you remove a rain jacket while riding?

D
F


 
Date: 25 Oct 2007 15:03:58
From: Matt O'Toole
Subject: Re: Rain Jacket removal survey
When do you remove your rain jacket in Seattle? I have friends in
Bellingham whom I've never seen without their Goretex. I think they sleep
in it.

Matt O.


On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:02:28 -0700, Claire wrote:

> Can you remove a rain jacket while riding?
>
> A. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, no handed, because I am
> very skilled
> B. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, one handed, because I am
> skilled
> C. I can remove a rain jacket while riding, keeping both hands on the
> handlebars at all times, because I am Houdini
> D. I can not remove a rain jacket while riding
> E. I do not wear rain jackets because I am a wuss and never ride in
> the rain
> F. I do not wear rain jackets because my highly expensive bike is too
> delicate to ride in the rain.
> G. E and F above
> H. Other: (specify)
>
> If you answered A, B, or C above, then please answer the next one:
>
> Can you remove a rain jacket and still keep on your reflective
> commuting vest?
>
> A. I can remove a rain jacket still keep my reflective commuting vest
> on, while riding no handed
> B. I can remove a rain jacket and still keep my reflective commuting
> vest on, while riding one handed
> C. I can remove a rain jacket and still keep my reflective commuting
> vest on, and keep both hands on the handlebars at all times, because I
> am Houdini
> D. While I can remove a rain jacket while riding, I can not do so and
> keep on my reflective commuter vest at the same time; I have to take
> off one and then the other.
> E. I never ride in low light conditions, so I have no need for a
> reflective commuter vest
> F. Reflective commuter vests are for Freds and Dorks
>
> Thank you for your replies.
>
> Warm Regards,
>
> Claire



  
Date: 25 Oct 2007 20:06:42
From: Cathy Kearns
Subject: Re: Rain Jacket removal survey
No problem getting a jacket off while stoking on a tandem. On a single,
nope, I have to stop.



   
Date: 27 Oct 2007 10:15:56
From: Claire Petersky
Subject: Re: Rain Jacket removal survey

"Cathy Kearns" <cathy_kearns@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:mH6Ui.12288$4V6.2287@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...
> No problem getting a jacket off while stoking on a tandem. On a single,
> nope, I have to stop.


My husband has to stop when riding on his single. On the tandem, when he's
captain, I can help him with one sleeve and then the other, so he can do it
while on board.

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Warm Regards,

Claire Petersky
http://www.bicyclemeditations.org/
See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky