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Date: 07 Mar 2007 20:16:08
From: nash
Subject: Richmond velodrome BC
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Anybody participate at that Velodrome. Burnaby was mentioned in January and
I did not know Richmond also has one.
I wonder what events they hold.
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Date: 28 Mar 2007 01:11:57
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: Richmond velodrome BC
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In article <kj8i03l39fek0g33sg4nvejsdqa1hpe601@4ax.com >,
Curtis L. Russell <curtis@md-bicycling.org > writes:
> On Mon, 26 2007 20:27:10 -0800, tkeats2005@hotmail.com (Tom Keats)
> wrote:
>
>>I suspect the race-track-style (as in horse/dog racing) betting
>>was possibly what made them so popular. If there was any
>>untoward "fixing" of races going on, maybe that's what led to
>>their demise? Just an off-hand guess on my part. Maybe people
>>just lost interest in bicycles? I dunno. Anyway, those old
>>style 6-day races dissipated with the onset of the war years,
>>and never really came back.
>
> To a large extent it was killed off by an absolutely insane
> competition between two promoters (insane in the business sense), with
> a major velodrome going up in flames at a bad moment. The races were
> still popular up to the point that the promoters blew things apart and
> that velodrome fire was a major issue in not restarting a real series
> of racing.
Could you by any chance suggest some on-line sites with
info about those old six-day races? I'm not asking you
to go to any trouble, but if you have some URL references
handy, I'd be most grateful. I'm most intrigued by, and
interested in that topic. I've tried Google searches, but
so far ... no soap. Not very much, anyway. Sometimes it
almost seems like there's a conspiracy to suppress that
information.
cheers,
Tom
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Date: 28 Mar 2007 16:39:24
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: Richmond velodrome BC
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On Wed, 28 2007 01:11:57 -0800, tkeats2005@hotmail.com (Tom Keats)
wrote:
>Could you by any chance suggest some on-line sites with
>info about those old six-day races? I'm not asking you
>to go to any trouble, but if you have some URL references
>handy, I'd be most grateful. I'm most intrigued by, and
>interested in that topic. I've tried Google searches, but
>so far ... no soap. Not very much, anyway. Sometimes it
>almost seems like there's a conspiracy to suppress that
>information.
Mos of my stuff is in books, maybe 50-60 books accumulated over the
years. I'll check to get some titles, but I'm between home services
right now and it may be a few days. The comcast was shut down last
Sunday and the Verizon starts next Monday...
Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
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Date: 26 Mar 2007 20:27:10
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: Richmond velodrome BC
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In article <loJHh.125065$_73.38101@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net >,
"Claire Petersky" <cpetersky@mouse-potato.com > writes:
>
> "Tom Keats" <tkeats2005@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:v5knse.8u1.ln@bud.garden.local...
>> In article <c4FHh.1261778$R63.442342@pd7urf1no>,
>> "nash" <zwepytzkehillc9@jetable.net> writes:
>>> Anybody participate at that Velodrome. Burnaby was mentioned in January
>>> and
>>> I did not know Richmond also has one.
>>> I wonder what events they hold.
>>
>> Are you sure that's not _Redmond_ (WA)?
>> They have their ymoor Velodrome there.
>
>
> WIWAK, I used to throw my bike over the fence and then ride around on the
> velodrome course there. That was kinda fun.
Locked gate, eh?
I recall our old China Creek cycle track, just lying
fallow and going to seed after it was built for the
1954 British Empire Commonwealth Games. It was tempting,
but I heard many urban legends about tire-shredding
nail heads sticking up. In retrospect, I figure the biggest
danger would have been warped planks sticking up and just
waiting to stop a front wheel; I doubt the track would
have been nailed. But those 45 degree+ banks were serious
business.
I envy this guy:
http://uberdiebrucke.blogspot.com/2006/11/dortmund-six-day.html
I once saw a TV documentary describing the old 6-day races
of the '30s. IIRC, tracks were generally flat and the (rough)
planks indeed were often nailed down; such tracks were considered
temporary, and built to be readily ripped-up after they'd
served their purposes.
I suspect the race-track-style (as in horse/dog racing) betting
was possibly what made them so popular. If there was any
untoward "fixing" of races going on, maybe that's what led to
their demise? Just an off-hand guess on my part. Maybe people
just lost interest in bicycles? I dunno. Anyway, those old
style 6-day races dissipated with the onset of the war years,
and never really came back.
But I can't help thinking some sort of modern-day version
would go far to popularize sport cycling. Maybe even
cycling in general.
cheers,
Tom
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Date: 27 Mar 2007 09:58:37
From: Curtis L. Russell
Subject: Re: Richmond velodrome BC
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On Mon, 26 2007 20:27:10 -0800, tkeats2005@hotmail.com (Tom Keats)
wrote:
>I suspect the race-track-style (as in horse/dog racing) betting
>was possibly what made them so popular. If there was any
>untoward "fixing" of races going on, maybe that's what led to
>their demise? Just an off-hand guess on my part. Maybe people
>just lost interest in bicycles? I dunno. Anyway, those old
>style 6-day races dissipated with the onset of the war years,
>and never really came back.
To a large extent it was killed off by an absolutely insane
competition between two promoters (insane in the business sense), with
a major velodrome going up in flames at a bad moment. The races were
still popular up to the point that the promoters blew things apart and
that velodrome fire was a major issue in not restarting a real series
of racing.
Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...
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Date: 07 Mar 2007 21:58:18
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: Richmond velodrome BC
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In article <rcousine-92E847.21373707032007@news.telus.net >,
Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca > writes:
> A second velodrome in the GVRD would probably be a waste. First, let's
> get the first one really popular.
Richmond would be a good spot for that. The Harry Jerome
Sports Centre is so hidden away, nobody knows it's there.
cheers,
Tom
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Date: 07 Mar 2007 16:08:31
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: Richmond velodrome BC
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In article <c4FHh.1261778$R63.442342@pd7urf1no >,
"nash" <zwepytzkehillc9@jetable.net > writes:
> Anybody participate at that Velodrome. Burnaby was mentioned in January and
> I did not know Richmond also has one.
> I wonder what events they hold.
Are you sure that's not _Redmond_ (WA)?
They have their ymoor Velodrome there.
I think we of the Lower Mainland still only have
the Burnaby Velodrome as the only one.
Hopping a ferry to Victoria and visiting the
Juan de Fuca Velodrome might make for an
interesting cycling outing.
A 'drome in Richmond really is a nice idea, though.
They've already got enough golf courses and
driving ranges.
cheers,
Tom
--
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Above address is just a spam midden.
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Date: 08 Mar 2007 04:41:34
From: nash
Subject: Re: Richmond velodrome BC
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I guess the bike courier was wrong. I could not find it under Recreation in
Richmond. He was going to a courier race in Vancouver on the 24th. What a
hell of a rain storm that was.
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Date: 08 Mar 2007 05:37:41
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: Richmond velodrome BC
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In article <2uMHh.1259661$1T2.801526@pd7urf2no >,
"nash" <zwepytzkehillc9@jetable.net > wrote:
> I guess the bike courier was wrong. I could not find it under Recreation in
> Richmond. He was going to a courier race in Vancouver on the 24th. What a
> hell of a rain storm that was.
Yeah, no Richmond velodrome, I'm about 99% sure.
There is a May-August crit series in Richmond run by Team Coastal.
A second velodrome in the GVRD would probably be a waste. First, let's
get the first one really popular. Maybe popular enough to buy out the
volleyball people in the infield (not really their fault, but a long
story for sure...).
Racing right now, aside from the 'drome, is the Spring Series out in the
Langley-Abbotsford region. Road races every weekend day in ch.
Then it's on to the regular road/crit/whatever sked in BC, and velodrome
riding tapers off until the Fall, though for other PNW velodromes, the
season is just about to start.
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 08 Mar 2007 16:57:39
From: nash
Subject: Re: Richmond velodrome BC
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"Ryan Cousineau" <rcousine@sfu.ca > wrote in message
news:rcousine-92E847.21373707032007@news.telus.net...
> In article <2uMHh.1259661$1T2.801526@pd7urf2no>,
> "nash" <zwepytzkehillc9@jetable.net> wrote:
>
>> I guess the bike courier was wrong. I could not find it under Recreation
>> in
>> Richmond. He was going to a courier race in Vancouver on the 24th. What
>> a
>> hell of a rain storm that was.
>
> Yeah, no Richmond velodrome, I'm about 99% sure.
>
> There is a May-August crit series in Richmond run by Team Coastal.
>
> A second velodrome in the GVRD would probably be a waste. First, let's
> get the first one really popular. Maybe popular enough to buy out the
> volleyball people in the infield (not really their fault, but a long
> story for sure...).
>
> Racing right now, aside from the 'drome, is the Spring Series out in the
> Langley-Abbotsford region. Road races every weekend day in ch.
>
> Then it's on to the regular road/crit/whatever sked in BC, and velodrome
> riding tapers off until the Fall, though for other PNW velodromes, the
> season is just about to start.
>
> --
> Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
> "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
> to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
Where is the website if you wanted to be there for a race in
Langley/abbotsford.
I would like to know the route specifically.
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Date: 09 Mar 2007 05:31:48
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: Richmond velodrome BC
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In article <7gXHh.1268470$1T2.949872@pd7urf2no >,
"nash" <zwepytzkehillc9@jetable.net > wrote:
> "Ryan Cousineau" <rcousine@sfu.ca> wrote in message
> news:rcousine-92E847.21373707032007@news.telus.net...
> > In article <2uMHh.1259661$1T2.801526@pd7urf2no>,
> > "nash" <zwepytzkehillc9@jetable.net> wrote:
> >
> >> I guess the bike courier was wrong. I could not find it under Recreation
> >> in
> >> Richmond. He was going to a courier race in Vancouver on the 24th. What
> >> a
> >> hell of a rain storm that was.
> >
> > Yeah, no Richmond velodrome, I'm about 99% sure.
> >
> > There is a May-August crit series in Richmond run by Team Coastal.
> >
> > A second velodrome in the GVRD would probably be a waste. First, let's
> > get the first one really popular. Maybe popular enough to buy out the
> > volleyball people in the infield (not really their fault, but a long
> > story for sure...).
> >
> > Racing right now, aside from the 'drome, is the Spring Series out in the
> > Langley-Abbotsford region. Road races every weekend day in ch.
> Where is the website if you wanted to be there for a race in
> Langley/abbotsford.
> I would like to know the route specifically.
http://www.escapevelocity.bc.ca/springseries.html
THe routes for next weekend are Zero Avenue on Saturday (0 & 232nd
street, Langley)
http://www.escapevelocity.bc.ca/springseries/2007/ssroute4.html
Park your car on 8th Ave.
Sunday is the most notorious race of the series, the brutally steep
Armstrong circuit. It takes place just outside of Fort Langley:
http://www.escapevelocity.bc.ca/springseries/2007/ssroute1.html
The suffering is exquisite!
Racing starts at 10:30am. Three groups on the course at the same time,
with the elite "A" group expected to wrap up in somewhere around 3 hours.
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 09 Mar 2007 06:08:41
From: nash
Subject: Re: Richmond velodrome BC
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"Ryan Cousineau" <rcousine@sfu.ca > wrote in message
news:rcousine-55F55E.21312108032007@news.telus.net...
> In article <7gXHh.1268470$1T2.949872@pd7urf2no>,
> "nash" <zwepytzkehillc9@jetable.net> wrote:
>
>> "Ryan Cousineau" <rcousine@sfu.ca> wrote in message
>> news:rcousine-92E847.21373707032007@news.telus.net...
>> > In article <2uMHh.1259661$1T2.801526@pd7urf2no>,
>> > "nash" <zwepytzkehillc9@jetable.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I guess the bike courier was wrong. I could not find it under
>> >> Recreation
>> >> in
>> >> Richmond. He was going to a courier race in Vancouver on the 24th.
>> >> What
>> >> a
>> >> hell of a rain storm that was.
>> >
>> > Yeah, no Richmond velodrome, I'm about 99% sure.
>> >
>> > There is a May-August crit series in Richmond run by Team Coastal.
>> >
>> > A second velodrome in the GVRD would probably be a waste. First, let's
>> > get the first one really popular. Maybe popular enough to buy out the
>> > volleyball people in the infield (not really their fault, but a long
>> > story for sure...).
>> >
>> > Racing right now, aside from the 'drome, is the Spring Series out in
>> > the
>> > Langley-Abbotsford region. Road races every weekend day in ch.
>
>> Where is the website if you wanted to be there for a race in
>> Langley/abbotsford.
>> I would like to know the route specifically.
>
> http://www.escapevelocity.bc.ca/springseries.html
>
> THe routes for next weekend are Zero Avenue on Saturday (0 & 232nd
> street, Langley)
>
> http://www.escapevelocity.bc.ca/springseries/2007/ssroute4.html
>
> Park your car on 8th Ave.
>
> Sunday is the most notorious race of the series, the brutally steep
> Armstrong circuit. It takes place just outside of Fort Langley:
>
> http://www.escapevelocity.bc.ca/springseries/2007/ssroute1.html
>
> The suffering is exquisite!
>
> Racing starts at 10:30am. Three groups on the course at the same time,
> with the elite "A" group expected to wrap up in somewhere around 3 hours.
>
> --
> Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
> "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
> to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
Thanks very much. Just missed the road race lesson. Next year for sure.
Well, that is if I can stop my foot from going numb in about 10 minutes of
riding.
A race would be agony. I can watch without too much suffering though. )
Makes a good desktop poster.
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Date: 09 Mar 2007 06:17:37
From: nash
Subject: Re: Richmond velodrome BC
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"nash" <zwepytzkehillc9@jetable.net > wrote in message
news:JR6Ih.12269$4D.10871@pd7urf2no...
>
> "Ryan Cousineau" <rcousine@sfu.ca> wrote in message
> news:rcousine-55F55E.21312108032007@news.telus.net...
>> In article <7gXHh.1268470$1T2.949872@pd7urf2no>,
>> "nash" <zwepytzkehillc9@jetable.net> wrote:
>>
>>> "Ryan Cousineau" <rcousine@sfu.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:rcousine-92E847.21373707032007@news.telus.net...
>>> > In article <2uMHh.1259661$1T2.801526@pd7urf2no>,
>>> > "nash" <zwepytzkehillc9@jetable.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I guess the bike courier was wrong. I could not find it under
>>> >> Recreation
>>> >> in
>>> >> Richmond. He was going to a courier race in Vancouver on the 24th.
>>> >> What
>>> >> a
>>> >> hell of a rain storm that was.
>>> >
>>> > Yeah, no Richmond velodrome, I'm about 99% sure.
>>> >
>>> > There is a May-August crit series in Richmond run by Team Coastal.
>>> >
>>> > A second velodrome in the GVRD would probably be a waste. First, let's
>>> > get the first one really popular. Maybe popular enough to buy out the
>>> > volleyball people in the infield (not really their fault, but a long
>>> > story for sure...).
>>> >
>>> > Racing right now, aside from the 'drome, is the Spring Series out in
>>> > the
>>> > Langley-Abbotsford region. Road races every weekend day in ch.
>>
>>> Where is the website if you wanted to be there for a race in
>>> Langley/abbotsford.
>>> I would like to know the route specifically.
>>
>> http://www.escapevelocity.bc.ca/springseries.html
>>
>> THe routes for next weekend are Zero Avenue on Saturday (0 & 232nd
>> street, Langley)
>>
>> http://www.escapevelocity.bc.ca/springseries/2007/ssroute4.html
>>
>> Park your car on 8th Ave.
>>
>> Sunday is the most notorious race of the series, the brutally steep
>> Armstrong circuit. It takes place just outside of Fort Langley:
>>
>> http://www.escapevelocity.bc.ca/springseries/2007/ssroute1.html
>>
>> The suffering is exquisite!
>>
>> Racing starts at 10:30am. Three groups on the course at the same time,
>> with the elite "A" group expected to wrap up in somewhere around 3 hours.
>>
>> --
>> Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
>> "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
>> to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
>
> Thanks very much. Just missed the road race lesson. Next year for sure.
> Well, that is if I can stop my foot from going numb in about 10 minutes of
> riding.
> A race would be agony. I can watch without too much suffering though. )
> Makes a good desktop poster.
Wow, way to go in 2006 and the same for 2007 eh
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Date: 08 Mar 2007 01:10:41
From: Claire Petersky
Subject: Re: Richmond velodrome BC
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"Tom Keats" <tkeats2005@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:v5knse.8u1.ln@bud.garden.local...
> In article <c4FHh.1261778$R63.442342@pd7urf1no>,
> "nash" <zwepytzkehillc9@jetable.net> writes:
>> Anybody participate at that Velodrome. Burnaby was mentioned in January
>> and
>> I did not know Richmond also has one.
>> I wonder what events they hold.
>
> Are you sure that's not _Redmond_ (WA)?
> They have their ymoor Velodrome there.
WIWAK, I used to throw my bike over the fence and then ride around on the
velodrome course there. That was kinda fun.
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Claire Petersky
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