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Date: 18 Jul 2007 00:56:21
From: Claire Petersky
Subject: STP 2007: the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
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Ride summary:
July 14
Mileage: 100, from Bellevue WA to Centralia WA
Weather: temps in the 70s to 80s, sunny with increasing clouds and humidity
as the day progressed
July 15
Mileage: 106, from Centralia WA to Portland OR
Weather: temps in the lower 60s to upper 70s, occasional light sprinkles in
the morning with afternoon clearing.
Bike: Erickson tandem, purple with a blue fade
Good:
1. We arranged a deal with someone where each person got an advantage:
a. We got our luggage dropped off at our hotel for us in Centralia, so we
didn't have to fight the crowds at the start line, and had a relaxing
beginning of our ride
b. The person who dropped off our luggage didn't have to wake up before
dawn to go to the start line and drop off her husband. She dropped off our
luggage on her way home to Portland, hardly out of her way.
c. Her husband got guidance from the hotel near our house to an
intersection with the start line, and didn't have to fight the crowds at the
start line, got to sleep in a bit, and had a relaxing beginning of his ride,
such that he could complete the ride to Portland in one day.
2. My husband and I didn't file for divorce by the end of the ride :-)
3. We had fun goofing around, joking, and singing
4. We had excellent tandem teamwork - I felt both of us contributed equally
to the success of the ride
5. It seemed to me that there were far fewer clueless riders than in years
past. Either we were lucky, or the Cascade Training Series is beginning to
pay off.
The Bad:
1. Every year there seems to be less fruit offered at the stops. Since I
basically live on fruit for long rides, this was troublesome for me. I
especially miss watermelon at the St. Helens rest stop! I can not carry
watermelon myself very effectively (vision of towing a large melon on some
sort of bob yak), and it makes such a difference!
2. Strawberry banana sports drink at the Lexington food stop meant that I
stopped drinking any sort of sports drink - it tasted so gross.
Intelligently I dumped it at St. Helens, about 30 miles later, and duh, made
another bottle of nuun. Better to use the stuff I like and that works, than
to not drink something that I filled a bottle with because it was free.
3. The air conditioning in our hotel was broken. The whole point of getting
a hotel, and not staying further down the road (we usually at least go to
Chehalis, another 30 minutes along the route) was to have increased comfort.
Well, no. The hotel at first was intransigent, saying that we paid for the
room and we got that. We argued that we were paying for an AIR CONDITIONED
room which we did not get. Finally, they gave us a fan and a paltry $10 off
of the room charge.
The Ugly:
At an unofficial rest stop about 15 miles from the finish line, my husband
discretely lowered his shorts and showed me where he was chafing. Ow.
--
Warm Regards,
Claire Petersky
http://www.bicyclemeditations.org/
See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky
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Date: 22 Jul 2007 12:46:47
From: NE Sailboat
Subject: Re: STP 2007: the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
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At an unofficial rest stop about 15 miles from the finish line, my husband
discretely lowered his shorts and showed me where he was chafing. Ow.
==
Better you than some 13 year old on that tv show..
==============================================
"Claire Petersky" <cpetersky@mouse-potato.com > wrote in message
news:Vydni.9283$zA4.4388@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> Ride summary:
> July 14
> Mileage: 100, from Bellevue WA to Centralia WA
> Weather: temps in the 70s to 80s, sunny with increasing clouds and
> humidity as the day progressed
> July 15
> Mileage: 106, from Centralia WA to Portland OR
> Weather: temps in the lower 60s to upper 70s, occasional light sprinkles
> in the morning with afternoon clearing.
> Bike: Erickson tandem, purple with a blue fade
>
> Good:
>
> 1. We arranged a deal with someone where each person got an advantage:
> a. We got our luggage dropped off at our hotel for us in Centralia, so we
> didn't have to fight the crowds at the start line, and had a relaxing
> beginning of our ride
> b. The person who dropped off our luggage didn't have to wake up before
> dawn to go to the start line and drop off her husband. She dropped off our
> luggage on her way home to Portland, hardly out of her way.
> c. Her husband got guidance from the hotel near our house to an
> intersection with the start line, and didn't have to fight the crowds at
> the start line, got to sleep in a bit, and had a relaxing beginning of his
> ride, such that he could complete the ride to Portland in one day.
>
> 2. My husband and I didn't file for divorce by the end of the ride :-)
>
> 3. We had fun goofing around, joking, and singing
>
> 4. We had excellent tandem teamwork - I felt both of us contributed
> equally to the success of the ride
>
> 5. It seemed to me that there were far fewer clueless riders than in years
> past. Either we were lucky, or the Cascade Training Series is beginning to
> pay off.
>
> The Bad:
>
> 1. Every year there seems to be less fruit offered at the stops. Since I
> basically live on fruit for long rides, this was troublesome for me. I
> especially miss watermelon at the St. Helens rest stop! I can not carry
> watermelon myself very effectively (vision of towing a large melon on some
> sort of bob yak), and it makes such a difference!
>
> 2. Strawberry banana sports drink at the Lexington food stop meant that I
> stopped drinking any sort of sports drink - it tasted so gross.
> Intelligently I dumped it at St. Helens, about 30 miles later, and duh,
> made another bottle of nuun. Better to use the stuff I like and that
> works, than to not drink something that I filled a bottle with because it
> was free.
>
> 3. The air conditioning in our hotel was broken. The whole point of
> getting a hotel, and not staying further down the road (we usually at
> least go to Chehalis, another 30 minutes along the route) was to have
> increased comfort. Well, no. The hotel at first was intransigent, saying
> that we paid for the room and we got that. We argued that we were paying
> for an AIR CONDITIONED room which we did not get. Finally, they gave us a
> fan and a paltry $10 off of the room charge.
>
> The Ugly:
>
> At an unofficial rest stop about 15 miles from the finish line, my husband
> discretely lowered his shorts and showed me where he was chafing. Ow.
>
> --
> Warm Regards,
>
>
> Claire Petersky
> http://www.bicyclemeditations.org/
> See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky
>
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Date: 19 Jul 2007 18:02:06
From: Luigi de Guzman
Subject: Re: STP 2007: the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
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Usenet is a lot easier to deal with since you can rely on your own
killfile. Newspapers print at their editors' discretion, and if the
editor is as ignorant or hostile as the commenters, well...
--
Luigi de Guzman
http://ouij.livejournal.com
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Date: 19 Jul 2007 12:01:45
From: Dane Buson
Subject: Re: STP 2007: the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
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Luigi de Guzman <luigi12081@cox.net > wrote:
> Usenet is a lot easier to deal with since you can rely on your own
> killfile. Newspapers print at their editors' discretion, and if the
> editor is as ignorant or hostile as the commenters, well...
A well tuned killfile is a joy like unto the sweet ticking of a freshly
oiled chain ticking away on the workstand.
--
Dane Buson - sigdane@unixbigots.org
"Linux poses a real challenge for those with a taste for late-night
hacking (and/or conversations with God)."
(By Matt Welsh)
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Date: 19 Jul 2007 14:57:58
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: STP 2007: the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
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Dane Buson wrote:
> A well tuned killfile is a joy like unto the sweet ticking of a
> freshly oiled chain ticking away on the workstand.
And Frank changing his user name recently is like a stiff link! LOL
Bill "re-plonk pending" S.
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Date: 19 Jul 2007 22:04:19
From: Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: STP 2007: the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
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Bill Sornson wrote:
> Dane Buson wrote:
>
>> A well tuned killfile is a joy like unto the sweet ticking of a
>> freshly oiled chain ticking away on the workstand.
>
> And Frank changing his user name recently is like a stiff link! LOL
We should encourage people to change their "user name" from their email
address to their actual name. I believe that Bill Sornson feels strongly
so in the case where the email address indicates being an alumnus of a
particular university.
--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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Date: 19 Jul 2007 13:15:33
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: STP 2007: the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
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"Luigi de Guzman" <luigi12081@cox.net > wrote in message
news:yGNni.18228$EZ1.8982@newsfe18.lga...
> Usenet is a lot easier to deal with since you can rely on your own
> killfile. Newspapers print at their editors' discretion, and if the
> editor is as ignorant or hostile as the commenters [?] , well...
Hey, Luigi, take your kill file and stuff it up your ass. Better yet, find
yourself a moderated forum where someone can babysit you and your ilk.
Editors were made for slobs like you.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 18 Jul 2007 00:44:55
From: Zoot Katz
Subject: Re: STP 2007: the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
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On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 00:56:21 GMT, "Claire Petersky"
<cpetersky@mouse-potato.com > wrote:
>The Ugly:
>
>At an unofficial rest stop about 15 miles from the finish line, my husband
>discretely lowered his shorts and showed me where he was chafing. Ow.
Uglier:
<http://www.tdn.com/articles/2007/07/16/area_news/news17.txt >
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zk
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Date: 18 Jul 2007 14:45:39
From: Claire Petersky
Subject: Re: STP 2007: the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
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"Zoot Katz" <zootkatz@operamail.com > wrote in message
news:g6hr93tjs5g4kv1uqi6logkkft4sv1rscj@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 00:56:21 GMT, "Claire Petersky"
> <cpetersky@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>
>>The Ugly:
>>
>>At an unofficial rest stop about 15 miles from the finish line, my husband
>>discretely lowered his shorts and showed me where he was chafing. Ow.
>
> Uglier:
>
> <http://www.tdn.com/articles/2007/07/16/area_news/news17.txt>
Yes, the "accident" was one thing; the comments to the paper are perhaps
even worse. I didn't need to read them - I had already heard about them from
many others.
--
Warm Regards,
Claire Petersky
http://www.bicyclemeditations.org/
See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky
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Date: 18 Jul 2007 13:02:06
From: Dane Buson
Subject: Re: STP 2007: the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
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Claire Petersky <cpetersky@mouse-potato.com > wrote:
> "Zoot Katz" <zootkatz@operamail.com> wrote in message
>> On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 00:56:21 GMT, "Claire Petersky"
>> <cpetersky@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>>
>>>The Ugly:
>>>
>>>At an unofficial rest stop about 15 miles from the finish line, my husband
>>>discretely lowered his shorts and showed me where he was chafing. Ow.
>>
>> Uglier:
>>
>> <http://www.tdn.com/articles/2007/07/16/area_news/news17.txt>
>
>
> Yes, the "accident" was one thing; the comments to the paper are perhaps
> even worse. I didn't need to read them - I had already heard about them from
> many others.
Newspaper comment sections are almost always cesspools. This one
appears to be no exception.
--
Dane Buson - sigdane@unixbigots.org
"A radioactive cat has eighteen half-lives."
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Date: 18 Jul 2007 19:12:55
From: Zoot Katz
Subject: Re: STP 2007: the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
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On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:02:06 -0700, Dane Buson <dane@unseen.edu >
wrote:
>>> Uglier:
>>>
>>> <http://www.tdn.com/articles/2007/07/16/area_news/news17.txt>
>>
>>
>> Yes, the "accident" was one thing; the comments to the paper are perhaps
>> even worse. I didn't need to read them - I had already heard about them from
>> many others.
>
>Newspaper comment sections are almost always cesspools. This one
>appears to be no exception.
I found it exceptionally mean spirited though about par in terms of
general ignorance.
--
zk
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Date: 18 Jul 2007 14:17:16
From: brink
Subject: Re: STP 2007: the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
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"Dane Buson" <dane@unseen.edu > wrote in message
news:u682n4-vrf.ln1@curare.zuvembi.homelinux.org...
> Claire Petersky <cpetersky@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>> "Zoot Katz" <zootkatz@operamail.com> wrote in message
>>> On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 00:56:21 GMT, "Claire Petersky"
>>> <cpetersky@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>The Ugly:
>>>>
>>>>At an unofficial rest stop about 15 miles from the finish line, my
>>>>husband
>>>>discretely lowered his shorts and showed me where he was chafing. Ow.
>>>
>>> Uglier:
>>>
>>> <http://www.tdn.com/articles/2007/07/16/area_news/news17.txt>
>>
>>
>> Yes, the "accident" was one thing; the comments to the paper are perhaps
>> even worse. I didn't need to read them - I had already heard about them
>> from
>> many others.
>
> Newspaper comment sections are almost always cesspools. This one
> appears to be no exception.
Yep. Doesn't matter what the subject is... A "Nun gang-raped by frat boys"
story will draw plenty of comments that "She was dressed like she wanted it"
and "Churches don't pay their fair share of taxes." I think usenet is a lot
more self-selecting because people tend to hang in groups where they have
some degree of interest and expertise while the paper comment sections are
mainly people proudly displaying their ignorance, lack of decorum, and
abject failure at composition, grammar, and spelling.
IOW, I fail to see how the comments sections are helpful at all, unless
you're the kind of person who enjoys watching a slow train wreck.
brink
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Date: 17 Jul 2007 22:13:11
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: STP 2007: the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
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Claire Petersky wrote:
> Ride summary:
> July 14
> Mileage: 100, from Bellevue WA to Centralia WA
> Weather: temps in the 70s to 80s, sunny with increasing clouds and
> humidity as the day progressed
> July 15
> Mileage: 106, from Centralia WA to Portland OR
> Weather: temps in the lower 60s to upper 70s, occasional light
> sprinkles in the morning with afternoon clearing.
> Bike: Erickson tandem, purple with a blue fade
>
> Good:
>
> 1. We arranged a deal with someone where each person got an advantage:
> a. We got our luggage dropped off at our hotel for us in Centralia,
> so we didn't have to fight the crowds at the start line, and had a
> relaxing beginning of our ride
> b. The person who dropped off our luggage didn't have to wake up
> before dawn to go to the start line and drop off her husband. She
> dropped off our luggage on her way home to Portland, hardly out of
> her way. c. Her husband got guidance from the hotel near our house
> to an intersection with the start line, and didn't have to fight the
> crowds at the start line, got to sleep in a bit, and had a relaxing
> beginning of his ride, such that he could complete the ride to
> Portland in one day.
> 2. My husband and I didn't file for divorce by the end of the ride :-)
>
> 3. We had fun goofing around, joking, and singing
>
> 4. We had excellent tandem teamwork - I felt both of us contributed
> equally to the success of the ride
>
> 5. It seemed to me that there were far fewer clueless riders than in
> years past. Either we were lucky, or the Cascade Training Series is
> beginning to pay off.
>
> The Bad:
>
> 1. Every year there seems to be less fruit offered at the stops.
> Since I basically live on fruit for long rides, this was troublesome
> for me. I especially miss watermelon at the St. Helens rest stop! I
> can not carry watermelon myself very effectively (vision of towing a
> large melon on some sort of bob yak), and it makes such a difference!
>
> 2. Strawberry banana sports drink at the Lexington food stop meant
> that I stopped drinking any sort of sports drink - it tasted so gross.
> Intelligently I dumped it at St. Helens, about 30 miles later, and
> duh, made another bottle of nuun. Better to use the stuff I like and
> that works, than to not drink something that I filled a bottle with
> because it was free.
> 3. The air conditioning in our hotel was broken. The whole point of
> getting a hotel, and not staying further down the road (we usually at
> least go to Chehalis, another 30 minutes along the route) was to have
> increased comfort. Well, no. The hotel at first was intransigent,
> saying that we paid for the room and we got that. We argued that we
> were paying for an AIR CONDITIONED room which we did not get.
> Finally, they gave us a fan and a paltry $10 off of the room charge.
>
> The Ugly:
>
> At an unofficial rest stop about 15 miles from the finish line, my
> husband discretely lowered his shorts and showed me where he was
> chafing. Ow.
TMI...but(t) otherwise Nice <eg > .
Bill "should have taken the fan after that abuse" S.
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