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Date: 18 Jun 2007 20:14:33
From: Frank P
Subject: Santa Cruz: Highland Way Closed?
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On Sunday (yesterday) I was planning to ride from Lexington to Soquel
and return on Eureka Canyon and Highland Way.
I changed my plans after I discovered at http://sccroadclosure.org/
this:
Highland Way PM 3.23 C Slide Road Closed Indefinitely Due
to Unstable Conditions
Does anybody know if Highland is really closed, and if so, whether it
is passable on foot? Or is that to be interpreted to mean that it is
too dangerous to pass due to the "unstable conditions", i.e. a
critical risk of a slide?
Thanks,
Frank
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 04:07:13
From:
Subject: Re: Santa Cruz: Highland Way Closed?
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Frank P who? writes:
> On Sunday (yesterday) I was planning to ride from Lexington to
> Soquel and return on Eureka Canyon and Highland Way.
> I changed my plans after I discovered at http://sccroadclosure.org/
> this:
> Highland Way PM 3.23 C Slide Road Closed Indefinitely Due to
> Unstable Conditions
> Does anybody know if Highland is really closed, and if so, whether
> it is passable on foot? Or is that to be interpreted to mean that
> it is too dangerous to pass due to the "unstable conditions", i.e. a
> critical risk of a slide?
It is not closed but if you tried you could fall eight hundred feet
into Soquel Creek from riding at the edge of pavement. The place is
wide enough and still paved for cars to traverse.
The nice part is that outsiders avoid the road so you have it mostly
to yourself, especially from four corners (Buzzard Lagoon) north.
Jobst Brandt
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 10:18:18
From: Frank P
Subject: Re: Santa Cruz: Highland Way Closed?
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On 19 Jun 2007 04:07:13 GMT, jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org wrote:
>Frank P who? writes:
>
>> On Sunday (yesterday) I was planning to ride from Lexington to
>> Soquel and return on Eureka Canyon and Highland Way.
>
>> I changed my plans after I discovered at http://sccroadclosure.org/
>> this:
>
>> Highland Way PM 3.23 C Slide Road Closed Indefinitely Due to
>> Unstable Conditions
>
>> Does anybody know if Highland is really closed, and if so, whether
>> it is passable on foot? Or is that to be interpreted to mean that
>> it is too dangerous to pass due to the "unstable conditions", i.e. a
>> critical risk of a slide?
>
>It is not closed but if you tried you could fall eight hundred feet
>into Soquel Creek from riding at the edge of pavement. The place is
>wide enough and still paved for cars to traverse.
>
>The nice part is that outsiders avoid the road so you have it mostly
>to yourself, especially from four corners (Buzzard Lagoon) north.
>
Thank you, Jobst. That's exactly the kind of information I was hoping
to get.
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 03:56:12
From:
Subject: Re: Santa Cruz: Highland Way Closed?
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Frank P who? writes:
> On Sunday (yesterday) I was planning to ride from Lexington to
> Soquel and return on Eureka Canyon and Highland Way.
> I changed my plans after I discovered at http://sccroadclosure.org/
> this:
> Highland Way PM 3.23 C Slide Road Closed Indefinitely Due to
> Unstable Conditions
> Does anybody know if Highland is really closed, and if so, whether
> it is passable on foot? Or is that to be interpreted to mean that
> it is too dangerous to pass due to the "unstable conditions", i.e. a
> critical risk of a slide?
It is not closed but if you tried you could fall a few hundred feet
into Aptos Creek from riding at the edge of pavement. The place is
wide enough and still paved for cars to traverse.
The nice part is that outsiders avoid the road so you have it mostly
to yourself, especially from four corners (Buzzard Lagoon) north.
Jobst Brandt
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Date: 18 Jun 2007 20:33:22
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Santa Cruz: Highland Way Closed?
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Frank P wrote:
> On Sunday (yesterday) I was planning to ride from Lexington to Soquel
> and return on Eureka Canyon and Highland Way.
>
> I changed my plans after I discovered at http://sccroadclosure.org/
> this:
>
> Highland Way PM 3.23 C Slide Road Closed Indefinitely Due
> to Unstable Conditions
>
> Does anybody know if Highland is really closed, and if so, whether it
> is passable on foot? Or is that to be interpreted to mean that it is
> too dangerous to pass due to the "unstable conditions", i.e. a
> critical risk of a slide?
>
> Thanks,
> Frank
If skiers get killed by snow avalanches just think about being buried in
a mud avalanche.
Kind of makes you want an alternative. You might be able to carry the
bike up the hill and over the avalanche area, but that could be some
serious foot work.
Your call.
Bill Baka
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 04:05:51
From:
Subject: Re: Santa Cruz: Highland Way Closed?
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Bill Baka writes:
>> On Sunday (yesterday) I was planning to ride from Lexington to
>> Soquel and return on Eureka Canyon and Highland Way.
>> I changed my plans after I discovered at http://sccroadclosure.org/
>> this:
>> Highland Way PM 3.23 C Slide Road Closed Indefinitely Due to
>> Unstable Conditions
>> Does anybody know if Highland is really closed, and if so, whether
>> it is passable on foot? Or is that to be interpreted to mean that
>> it is too dangerous to pass due to the "unstable conditions",
>> i.e. a critical risk of a slide?
> If skiers get killed by snow avalanches just think about being
> buried in a mud avalanche.
> Kind of makes you want an alternative. You might be able to carry
> the bike up the hill and over the avalanche area, but that could be
> some serious foot work. Your call.
Cut it out Bill. You know not of what you write. Highland Way has
three old slides, the most recent on many thousands of cubic feet of
earth that are still running with ground water. None of these slides
over the past 20 years has moved again. It is always in another place
as the one farther up that has the "Road Closed" sign.
The road is stable but I wouldn't drive a loaded Ready-mix truck over
it. It drops of at about a 70=C2=B0 angle from the edge of pavement down
800ft to Soquel Creek at the red cursor in this map:
http://tinyurl.com/26r7t3
Jobst Brandt
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 19:12:30
From: Bill
Subject: Re: Santa Cruz: Highland Way Closed?
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jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org wrote:
> Cut it out Bill. You know not of what you write. Highland Way has
> three old slides, the most recent on many thousands of cubic feet of
> earth that are still running with ground water. None of these slides
> over the past 20 years has moved again. It is always in another place
> as the one farther up that has the "Road Closed" sign.
Get off your high horse or I will not be on your side. I have ridden
most of the areas around Big Basin and summit road and know that
carrying around a bike can be a hassle in some of the thicker (but still
nice) woods. That is still a favorite area with me unless I want to pack
a bike all the way to B.C. Canada, which is nicer in the summer.
Maybe if the poster had given a bit more information I could have
responded more to your liking or just ignored it.
I would NOT try to drag a recumbent through the woods, but would do it
with a standard mountain bike.
Bill Baka
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> The road is stable but I wouldn't drive a loaded Ready-mix truck over
> it. It drops of at about a 70° angle from the edge of pavement down
> 800ft to Soquel Creek at the red cursor in this map:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/26r7t3
>
> Jobst Brandt
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Date: 19 Jun 2007 14:06:51
From: Tim McNamara
Subject: Re: Santa Cruz: Highland Way Closed?
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In article <4677561f$0$14145$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net >,
jobst.brandt@stanfordalumni.org wrote:
> Highland Way has three old slides, the most recent on many thousands
> of cubic feet of earth that are still running with ground water.
> None of these slides over the past 20 years has moved again. It is
> always in another place as the one farther up that has the "Road
> Closed" sign.
>
> The road is stable but I wouldn't drive a loaded Ready-mix truck over
> it. It drops of at about a 70° angle from the edge of pavement down
> 800ft to Soquel Creek at the red cursor in this map:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/26r7t3
USGS photos of some of the landslides along Soquel Creek here, but never
having been there I don't know if they are in the area you're talking
about:
http://tinyurl.com/22emu4
Looks like a lovely area to explore:
http://www.bahiker.com/southbayhikes/soquel.html
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