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Date: 01 May 2007 17:47:14
From: Prisoner at War
Subject: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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Based on a true story, etc. -- the movie trailer makes it sound like
there's a bit of technical stuff involved, too! I can't stand how
they just have to have a "faithful girlfriend angle" in order to draw
in the couples, but who knows, maybe this obsessive biker really did
have one in real life.
So who's gonna see this flick? About time they had another bicycle
movie. I'm still waiting for one about NYC messengers! Preferably
some kinda Hitchcock sorta thriller (mysterious package which has
unnamed men in suits chasing our hero who dodges rush hour
traffic)...oops, that's supposed to be my secret project! Can't
figure out how to bring in the recumbents and tall bikes,
though...hmmmm....
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Date: 04 May 2007 13:50:00
From: datakoll@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
no its ok you can
stay
we have sevral cross posters from alt.leper
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Date: 03 May 2007 09:33:12
From: datakoll@yahoo.com
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As fogel aptly points out, the loss here is lack of will, lack of
spontenaity, lack of reflection: Man writes "biting" screenplay,
producers buy and film to exploit poor Basso et al and the TdF by
enticing the general public into paying $8 to vicariously experience a
psychotic athlete rocky himself to stardom only to find a ruthless
manager ripping him off while feeding him destructive drugs-
then failing to film it, to water the "biting" screenplay down into
generally consumable pap so the poor athlete can buy a villa in
southern france.
greed greed greed disguised as sex and violence.
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Date: 03 May 2007 07:53:18
From: datakoll@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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>
> ...and they could all ride bikes that say "BICYCLE" on the downtube.
right! but its gone too far for it to be that simple
after watching the movie, I may add another 10 feet between my path
and the local us postal crew
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Date: 03 May 2007 07:02:43
From: datakoll@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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no proof fogel survived
we experience the opposite!
Fogel attributes soup can mental states to soup can label writers
did Obree survive?
local noise sez he works in a bike shop.
does he have enough to eat?
is he taking medication?
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Date: 03 May 2007 06:25:23
From: Prisoner at War
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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On May 2, 3:18 pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca > wrote:
>
>
> <SNIP>
>
> BTW, anyone who has not read "The Rider" by Tim Krabb=E9 is doing
> themselves a tremendous disservice. It is not only a great cycling
> novel, it is a great novel.
Wow, high praise indeed! Good grief, it's all coming out of the
woodworks now! So many things to buy and check out...the only other
bicycle fiction I know of is a short story collection called "The
Island of Bicycle Dancers"...lukewarm reviews, IIRC....
> --
> Ryan Cousineau rcous...@sfu.cahttp://www.wiredcola.com/
> "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
> to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 03 May 2007 06:21:54
From: Prisoner at War
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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On May 2, 2:23 pm, Gary Young <garyyou...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On Wed, 02 May 2007 11:03:32 -0700, Jay Beattie wrote:
>
>
> > PeeWee's Big Adventure. Greatest cycling movie of all times. He even
> > competes in the TdF.http://peeweeinthetourdefrance.ytmnd.com/. Paul
> > Reubens would have been a huge star if it were not for that monkey spanking
> > incident. -- Jay Beattie.
>
> I saw PeeWee's Big Adventure at the NYC Bicycle Film Festival with an
> audience composed almost entirely of cyclists. When PeeWee discovered that
> his bicycle had been stolen, you could feel the collective shudder move
> its way through the crowd.
LOL! I never saw the movie -- but now that I know it involves a
bicycle, thanks!
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Date: 03 May 2007 06:20:59
From: Prisoner at War
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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On May 2, 12:22 pm, philcycles <philcyc...@aol.com > wrote:
>
>
> Obree was manic depressive and that's the hook for the movie. Good
> cycling movies are few and far between, There's a 4 hour miniseries
> about Major Taylor starring Phil Morris, Breaking Away and American
> Flyers, and The Bicycle Thief-just issued by Criterion on DVD in a
> beautifully restored edition.
Major Taylor? Cool!! "American Flyers"...thanks for the refs!
Didn't know Criterion did "The Bicycle Thief" as well...I have the
Image DVD....
> If you're looking for guys chasing an unnamed package you can't do
> better than Ronin by John Frankenheimer. Fantastic car chases and
> references to Japanese myths and movies. Doesn't get better than that.
> Phil Brown
Hmm, I vaguely recall "Ronin"...didn't involve a bicycle, did it? But
yeah, chasing the McGuffin, always interesting how that's done,
especially if done differently....
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Date: 03 May 2007 15:12:22
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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In article <1178198458.949023.322160@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com >,
Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On May 2, 12:22 pm, philcycles <philcyc...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Obree was manic depressive and that's the hook for the movie. Good
> > cycling movies are few and far between, There's a 4 hour miniseries
> > about Major Taylor starring Phil Morris, Breaking Away and American
> > Flyers, and The Bicycle Thief-just issued by Criterion on DVD in a
> > beautifully restored edition.
>
> Major Taylor? Cool!! "American Flyers"...thanks for the refs!
> Didn't know Criterion did "The Bicycle Thief" as well...I have the
> Image DVD....
>
> > If you're looking for guys chasing an unnamed package you can't do
> > better than Ronin by John Frankenheimer. Fantastic car chases and
> > references to Japanese myths and movies. Doesn't get better than that.
> > Phil Brown
>
> Hmm, I vaguely recall "Ronin"...didn't involve a bicycle, did it? But
> yeah, chasing the McGuffin, always interesting how that's done,
> especially if done differently....
The cyclist pitch for "Ronin" would be "de Niro's character blows up a
car with a rocket launcher."
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 03 May 2007 06:17:00
From: Prisoner at War
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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On May 2, 5:00 am, tiborg <tcg...@mac.com > wrote:
>
>
> Breaking Away has always been a favorite of mine. I used to go and see
> it every time it showed at the local uni theater.
Seems it was an Oscar winner! Thanks for the ref; I've just ordered
this title, too, from deepdiscountdvd.com! I don't know why, but
seeing the opening scene of "Caddyshack" recently, where the guy's
riding his bike to work, made me want to watch some bicycle movies!
One thing I'll be "looking for" in these old bike flicks is whether
anyone's wearing a helmet! It would be interesting to see if the
helmet nazis have affected cinematic depictions of bicycling yet -- or
if they have, to trace when it first began appearing in movies.
I know most bike movies don't really involve bikes as such -- which is
why this "Flying Scotsman" seems all the more interesting, as it
appears to be kind of technical, since the hero creates his own bike
-- but it'll be interesting to see what aspects of bicycling are
reflected and whether they're integral to the storyline, or whether
bicycling's accidental or a convenient plot device (which has been the
case so far in the handful I've screened)....
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Date: 02 May 2007 23:34:13
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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In article <rcousine-C57382.23013102052007@news.telus.net >,
Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca > writes:
> ObBike: my new bike (the black CX bike: it is so malevolent it doesn't
> get a name)
"But for corruption thou hast made Belial, an angel of hostility.
All his dominion is darkness and guilt. All the spirits that are
associated with him are angels of destruction. They follow only
the laws of darkness, and their craving is directed toward it."
> is nearly complete. It contains no washing machine parts,
> but I'm thinking of adding a drop of human blood.
Don't forget to include some skull valve caps.
> Not my blood, mind,
If you could get it to ooze out of the frame or hubs or
BB whenever you want, that could be an interesting effect.
I've never before heard of a ~bike~ getting involved in doping.
cheers,
Tom
--
Nothing is safe from me.
Above address is just a spam midden.
I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca
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Date: 03 May 2007 15:26:54
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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In article <5pvb1f.er.ln@bud.garden.local >,
tkeats2005@hotmail.com (Tom Keats) wrote:
> In article <rcousine-C57382.23013102052007@news.telus.net>,
> Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca> writes:
>
> > ObBike: my new bike (the black CX bike: it is so malevolent it doesn't
> > get a name)
>
> "But for corruption thou hast made Belial, an angel of hostility.
> All his dominion is darkness and guilt. All the spirits that are
> associated with him are angels of destruction. They follow only
> the laws of darkness, and their craving is directed toward it."
Too dark, too deep. Think more like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlynf--lsxA
But you can't beat Milton for this sort of thing, can you?
> > is nearly complete. It contains no washing machine parts,
> > but I'm thinking of adding a drop of human blood.
>
> Don't forget to include some skull valve caps.
Can you get presta skull valve caps?
> > Not my blood, mind,
>
> If you could get it to ooze out of the frame or hubs or
> BB whenever you want, that could be an interesting effect.
It's tempting. I think I'll just settle for playing "Paint it Black"
every time I pull the bike out at a race.
> I've never before heard of a ~bike~ getting involved in doping.
This bike is so bad it makes medicine sick.
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 03 May 2007 11:04:39
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> Can you get presta skull valve caps?
Decorative caps uniformly use a liner or adapter.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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Date: 02 May 2007 22:28:35
From: Werehatrack
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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On 1 May 2007 17:47:14 -0700, Prisoner at War
<prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com > may have said:
>
>...Can't
>figure out how to bring in the recumbents and tall bikes,
>though...hmmmm....
Why, in the traditional manner; have them be part of the St Patrick's
Day parade that the fleeing rider ducks into in order to hide for a
few seconds.
--
My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via e-mail.
Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature.
Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.
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Date: 03 May 2007 00:20:45
From: Zoot Katz
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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On Wed, 02 May 2007 22:28:35 -0600, Werehatrack
<rault00@earthWEEDSlink.net > wrote:
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>>...Can't
>>figure out how to bring in the recumbents and tall bikes,
>>though...hmmmm....
>
>Why, in the traditional manner; have them be part of the St Patrick's
>Day parade that the fleeing rider ducks into in order to hide for a
>few seconds.
I'd like to see 'em all together naked in a cage match flaming figure
eight race with mini bikes racing counter clockwise just for fun.
--
zk
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Date: 02 May 2007 17:48:16
From: datakoll@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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language, life, perceptions of life, writing of life connect within
the same generation, more or less as duh every one is more or less on
the same wave length without trying, trying one's intelligence.
leapfrogging generations quoting style meant as popular styles, not
scientific or strict journalism to move away from 'objectivity' a bit,
without excercising a template bridging the different life
experience's
probabbbly means you didn't get the point meant in 1875.
if the film works to get you into obree's shoes then its a success.
in 1875, every scratch in a horse drawn environment might bring death
from infection...
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Date: 02 May 2007 17:25:26
From: datakoll@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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what does bierce and twain to do with obree?
what does bierce and twain to do with obree?
what does bierce and twain to do with obree?
manic obsessions?
twain lost the money on a bad bet backing a printing machine.
as for:
"whose success Bierce envied, whose laziness as a reporter
Bierce deplored, whose drinking Bierce often outdid, and whose happy
marriage and inheritance Bierce could only dream of." - C.Fogel
Bierce's connection to our Civil War is more connection than Twain
concieved.
A longer Bierce short story is over the top.
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Date: 02 May 2007 12:42:19
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On May 2, 1:18 pm, Ryan Cousineau <rcous...@sfu.ca > wrote:
[snip]
> BTW, anyone who has not read "The Rider" by Tim Krabb=E9 is doing
> themselves a tremendous disservice. It is not only a great cycling
> novel, it is a great novel.
> --
> Ryan Cousineau rcous...@sfu.cahttp://www.wiredcola.com/
Dear Ryan,
Whenever I get too excited about the objects of my former profession,
I remember how Ambrose Bierce defined them:
"NOVEL, n. A short story padded. A species of composition bearing the
same relation to literature that the panorama bears to art. As it is
too long to be read at a sitting the impressions made by its
successive parts are successively effaced, as in the panorama. Unity,
totality of effect, is impossible; for besides the few pages last read
all that is carried in mind is the mere plot of what has gone before.
To the romance the novel is what photography is to painting. Its
distinguishing principle, probability, corresponds to the literal
actuality of the photograph and puts it distinctly into the category
of reporting; whereas the free wing of the romancer enables him to
mount to such altitudes of imagination as he may be fitted to attain;
and the first three essentials of the literary art are imagination,
imagination and imagination. The art of writing novels, such as it
was, is long dead everywhere except in Russia, where it is new. Peace
to its ashes-some of which have a large sale."
By "romance," Bierce appears to mean ghost stories (which he loved to
write), though his definition of "romance" elsewhere in the Devil's
Dictionary carefully avoids such supernatural specifics, merely
stating that "the most fascinating fiction that we have is 'The
Thousand and One Nights.'"
Of course, Bierce was a journalist, a rhymester, an aphorist, and a
short-story author, but he couldn't write a novel for sour apples, so
his literary theory concerning the novel is open to question. He
couldn't help envying the huge sales of Russian novels and the success
of his novel-writing former newspaper acquaintance, Sam Clemens.
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
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Date: 02 May 2007 20:50:59
From: nash
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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Sam Clemens rocks
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Date: 02 May 2007 18:18:25
From: Jay Beattie
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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"nash" <zwepytzkehillc9@jetable.net > wrote in message
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> Sam Clemens rocks
Dude, he used the "N" word, and he wasn't rapp'n. -- Jay "PC" Beattie.
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Date: 02 May 2007 16:16:08
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On Wed, 02 May 2007 20:50:59 GMT, "nash" <zwepytzkehillc9@jetable.net >
wrote:
>Sam Clemens rocks
Dear Nash,
Bierce knew Twain as a reporter on the Alta newspaper in California
before Twain left for Hawaii and then went to the East Coast, wrote
"The Innocents Abroad" about his voyage to the Holy Land, became a
famous lecturer, and married the daughter of a wealthy citizen of
Buffalo, New York.
Here are three comments from Bierce in 1870 concerning his friend
Twain, whose success Bierce envied, whose laziness as a reporter
Bierce deplored, whose drinking Bierce often outdid, and whose happy
marriage and inheritance Bierce could only dream of.
The ghoulish chaffing was a hallmark of California journalism.
"Mark Twain, who, whenever he has been long enough sober to permit an
estimate, has been uniformly found to bear a spotless character, has
got married. It was not the act of a desperate man--it was not
committed while laboring under temporary insanity; his insanity is not
of that type, nor does he ever labor--it was the cool, methodical,
cumulative culmination of human nature, working in the breast of an
orphan hankering for some one with a fortune to love--some one with a
bank account to caress. For years he has felt this matrimony coming
on. Ever since he left California there has been an undertone of
despair running through all his letters like the subdued wail of a pig
beneath a washtub. He felt that he was going, that no earthly power
could save him, but as a concession to his weeping publishers he tried
a change of climage by putting on a linen coat and writing letters
from the West Indies. Then he tried rhubarb, and during his latter
months was almost constantly under the influence of this powerful
drug. But rhubarb, while it may give a fitful glitter to the eye and a
decitful ruddiness to the gills, cannot long delay the pangs of
approaching marriage. Rhubarb was not what Mark wanted. Well, that
genial spirit has passed away; that long, bright smile will no more
greet the early bar-keeper, nor the old familiar "chalk it down"
delight his ear. Poor Mark! he was a good scheme, but he couldn't be
made to work."
--News Letter, Feb. 19 1870
"It is announced that Mark Twain, being above want, will lecutre no
more. We didn't think that of Mark; we supposed that after marrying a
rich girl he would have decency enough to make a show of working for a
year or two anyhow. But it seems that his native laziness has wrecked
his finer feeling, and he has abandoned himself to his natural vice
with the stolid indifference of a pig at his ablutions. We have our
own private opinion of a man who will do this kind of thing; we regard
him as an abandoned wretch. We should like to be abandoned in that
way."
--News Letter, June 18, 1870
"Mark Twain's father-in-law is dead, and has left that youth's wife a
quarter of a million dollars. At the time of Mark's marriage, a few
months since, we expressed some doubt as to the propriety of the
transaction. That doubt has been removed by death."
--News Letter, Aug. 27, 1870
Eight years later, Bierce commented in another California newspaper
about Twain's literary faux pas, a speech at a banquet honoring
Longfellow, Emerson, and Whittier, in which Twain claimed to have met
a California miner who wanted nothing to do with literary giants like
Twain because he'd just hosted a rowdy card game for three
quote-spouting drunks who claimed to be the trio of great poets:
"Mark Twain's Boston speech, in which the great humorist's coltish
imagination represented Longfellow, Emerson, and Whittier engaged at a
game of cards in the cabin of a California miner, is said to have so
wrought upong the feelings of 'the best literary' society' in that
city that the daring joker is in danger of lynching. I hope they won't
lynch him; it would be irregular and illegal, however roughly just and
publicly beneficial. Besides, it would rob many a worthy sheriff of an
honorable ambition by dispeliing the most bright and beautiful hope of
his life."
--Argonaut, Jan. 5, 1878
Note that Bierce calls Twain a great humorist.
Here's the Twain speech that outraged some silly literary folk:
http://www.twainquotes.com/18771220.html
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
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Date: 02 May 2007 19:33:11
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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<carlfogel@comcast.net > wrote in message
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[...]
> Note that Bierce calls Twain a great humorist.
>
> Here's the Twain speech that outraged some silly literary folk:
>
> http://www.twainquotes.com/18771220.html
>
> Cheers,
>
> Carl Fogel
Mark Twain along with Will Rogers are quintessential 19th century men.
Neither would do well today. In fact, whenever I encounter either of them on
the media (re-creations of their personalities) I am bored beyond belief.
I have always hated their yokel type of humor. How Twain and Rogers ever
made a living off it is one for the ages to ponder. Let the dead bury the
dead and do not bother us any more with your Mark Twain crapola.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 03 May 2007 02:10:45
From: nash
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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"Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net > wrote in message
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>
> <carlfogel@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:1g1i335umq3at2es70bgm6p476cssqd6mb@4ax.com...
> [...]
>> Note that Bierce calls Twain a great humorist.
>>
>> Here's the Twain speech that outraged some silly literary folk:
>>
>> http://www.twainquotes.com/18771220.html
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Carl Fogel
>
> Mark Twain along with Will Rogers are quintessential 19th century men.
> Neither would do well today. In fact, whenever I encounter either of them
> on the media (re-creations of their personalities) I am bored beyond
> belief.
>
> I have always hated their yokel type of humor. How Twain and Rogers ever
> made a living off it is one for the ages to ponder. Let the dead bury the
> dead and do not bother us any more with your Mark Twain crapola.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
I thought you were dead and buried Dolan lol
go away
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Date: 04 May 2007 14:23:07
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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"nash" <zwepytzkehillc9@jetable.net > wrote in message
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>
> "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net> wrote in message
> news:huCdndkaXPROsKTbnZ2dnUVZ_r2onZ2d@prairiewave.com...
>>
>> <carlfogel@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:1g1i335umq3at2es70bgm6p476cssqd6mb@4ax.com...
>> [...]
>>> Note that Bierce calls Twain a great humorist.
>>>
>>> Here's the Twain speech that outraged some silly literary folk:
>>>
>>> http://www.twainquotes.com/18771220.html
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Carl Fogel
>>
>> Mark Twain along with Will Rogers are quintessential 19th century men.
>> Neither would do well today. In fact, whenever I encounter either of them
>> on the media (re-creations of their personalities) I am bored beyond
>> belief.
>>
>> I have always hated their yokel type of humor. How Twain and Rogers ever
>> made a living off it is one for the ages to ponder. Let the dead bury the
>> dead and do not bother us any more with your Mark Twain crapola.
>>
> I thought you were dead and buried Dolan lol
> go away
I only post to ARBR these days as I discovered to my amazement that all the
other newgroups are even stupider than ARBR. You will only hit upon me if a
subject is cross-posted like this one is.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
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Date: 03 May 2007 00:14:22
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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In article <1g1i335umq3at2es70bgm6p476cssqd6mb@4ax.com >,
carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
> On Wed, 02 May 2007 20:50:59 GMT, "nash" <zwepytzkehillc9@jetable.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Sam Clemens rocks
>
> Dear Nash,
>
> Bierce knew Twain as a reporter on the Alta newspaper in California
> before Twain left for Hawaii and then went to the East Coast, wrote
> "The Innocents Abroad" about his voyage to the Holy Land, became a
> famous lecturer, and married the daughter of a wealthy citizen of
> Buffalo, New York.
>
> Here are three comments from Bierce in 1870 concerning his friend
> Twain, whose success Bierce envied, whose laziness as a reporter
> Bierce deplored, whose drinking Bierce often outdid, and whose happy
> marriage and inheritance Bierce could only dream of.
Yes, but did Mr. Bierce like Mr. Twain?
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 02 May 2007 18:26:17
From:
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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On Thu, 03 May 2007 00:14:22 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca >
wrote:
>In article <1g1i335umq3at2es70bgm6p476cssqd6mb@4ax.com>,
> carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 02 May 2007 20:50:59 GMT, "nash" <zwepytzkehillc9@jetable.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Sam Clemens rocks
>>
>> Dear Nash,
>>
>> Bierce knew Twain as a reporter on the Alta newspaper in California
>> before Twain left for Hawaii and then went to the East Coast, wrote
>> "The Innocents Abroad" about his voyage to the Holy Land, became a
>> famous lecturer, and married the daughter of a wealthy citizen of
>> Buffalo, New York.
>>
>> Here are three comments from Bierce in 1870 concerning his friend
>> Twain, whose success Bierce envied, whose laziness as a reporter
>> Bierce deplored, whose drinking Bierce often outdid, and whose happy
>> marriage and inheritance Bierce could only dream of.
>
>Yes, but did Mr. Bierce like Mr. Twain?
Dear Ryan,
" . . . concerning his friend Twain . . ."
They were friends on the newspaper staff, but California journalism
was not bean-bag, particularly when played by Bierce.
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
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Date: 03 May 2007 03:59:05
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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In article <2mai33h24v30ila7mplid40rrveqd2t87k@4ax.com >,
carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
> On Thu, 03 May 2007 00:14:22 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <1g1i335umq3at2es70bgm6p476cssqd6mb@4ax.com>,
> > carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 02 May 2007 20:50:59 GMT, "nash" <zwepytzkehillc9@jetable.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Sam Clemens rocks
> >>
> >> Dear Nash,
> >>
> >> Bierce knew Twain as a reporter on the Alta newspaper in California
> >> before Twain left for Hawaii and then went to the East Coast, wrote
> >> "The Innocents Abroad" about his voyage to the Holy Land, became a
> >> famous lecturer, and married the daughter of a wealthy citizen of
> >> Buffalo, New York.
> >>
> >> Here are three comments from Bierce in 1870 concerning his friend
> >> Twain, whose success Bierce envied, whose laziness as a reporter
> >> Bierce deplored, whose drinking Bierce often outdid, and whose happy
> >> marriage and inheritance Bierce could only dream of.
> >
> >Yes, but did Mr. Bierce like Mr. Twain?
>
> Dear Ryan,
>
> " . . . concerning his friend Twain . . ."
Yes, but did Mr. Bierce like Mr. Twain?
> They were friends on the newspaper staff, but California journalism
> was not bean-bag, particularly when played by Bierce.
:)
-RjC, survived an English degree and went on to be a productive citizen,
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 02 May 2007 22:51:06
From:
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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On Thu, 03 May 2007 03:59:05 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca >
wrote:
>In article <2mai33h24v30ila7mplid40rrveqd2t87k@4ax.com>,
> carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 03 May 2007 00:14:22 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <1g1i335umq3at2es70bgm6p476cssqd6mb@4ax.com>,
>> > carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 02 May 2007 20:50:59 GMT, "nash" <zwepytzkehillc9@jetable.net>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Sam Clemens rocks
>> >>
>> >> Dear Nash,
>> >>
>> >> Bierce knew Twain as a reporter on the Alta newspaper in California
>> >> before Twain left for Hawaii and then went to the East Coast, wrote
>> >> "The Innocents Abroad" about his voyage to the Holy Land, became a
>> >> famous lecturer, and married the daughter of a wealthy citizen of
>> >> Buffalo, New York.
>> >>
>> >> Here are three comments from Bierce in 1870 concerning his friend
>> >> Twain, whose success Bierce envied, whose laziness as a reporter
>> >> Bierce deplored, whose drinking Bierce often outdid, and whose happy
>> >> marriage and inheritance Bierce could only dream of.
>> >
>> >Yes, but did Mr. Bierce like Mr. Twain?
>>
>> Dear Ryan,
>>
>> " . . . concerning his friend Twain . . ."
>
>Yes, but did Mr. Bierce like Mr. Twain?
>
>> They were friends on the newspaper staff, but California journalism
>> was not bean-bag, particularly when played by Bierce.
>
>:)
>
>-RjC, survived an English degree and went on to be a productive citizen,
Dear Ryan,
In the Biercean sense, yes, Bierce "liked" his friend Twain.
That is, Bierce liked Twain as much as was consistent with Bierce's
suicidal and misanthropic character.
As any fan of Bierce could predict from that the phrasing of my
answer, here's my favorite illustration of the Biercean sense:
"WEREWOLF, n."
"A wolf that was once, or is sometimes, a man. All werewolves are of
evil disposition, having assumed a bestial form to gratify a bestial
appetite, but some, transformed by sorcery, are as humane as is
consistent with an acquired taste for human flesh."
Think of a friendly but hungry Rottweiler.
As for surviving an English degree and going on to become a productive
citizen, the feat brings to mind Dr. Johnson's comment on a Quaker
woman preaching and a dog walking on his hind legs--it is not done
well, but you are surprised to find it done at all.
Cheers,
Carl Fogel
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Date: 03 May 2007 06:01:31
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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In article <nrpi33hdh3bq7hamlsbl7qlu9gnl6c83ka@4ax.com >,
carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
> As for surviving an English degree and going on to become a productive
> citizen, the feat brings to mind Dr. Johnson's comment on a Quaker
> woman preaching and a dog walking on his hind legs--it is not done
> well, but you are surprised to find it done at all.
Oh er. The Education of Ryan Cousineau is an entirely other sort of
tale.
I'm more bemused that two different people responded with the same
essential retort to my educational revelation.
ObBike: my new bike (the black CX bike: it is so malevolent it doesn't
get a name) is nearly complete. It contains no washing machine parts,
but I'm thinking of adding a drop of human blood.
Not my blood, mind,
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 03 May 2007 11:41:21
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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In article <rcousine-C57382.23013102052007@news.telus.net >,
Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca > wrote:
> In article <nrpi33hdh3bq7hamlsbl7qlu9gnl6c83ka@4ax.com>,
> carlfogel@comcast.net wrote:
>
> > As for surviving an English degree and going on to become a productive
> > citizen, the feat brings to mind Dr. Johnson's comment on a Quaker
> > woman preaching and a dog walking on his hind legs--it is not done
> > well, but you are surprised to find it done at all.
>
> Oh er. The Education of Ryan Cousineau is an entirely other sort of
> tale.
>
> I'm more bemused that two different people responded with the same
> essential retort to my educational revelation.
>
> ObBike: my new bike (the black CX bike: it is so malevolent it doesn't
> get a name) is nearly complete. It contains no washing machine parts,
> but I'm thinking of adding a drop of human blood.
>
> Not my blood, mind,
The Mobil 1 grease is red.
--
Michael Press
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Date: 02 May 2007 21:38:19
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> -RjC, survived an English degree and went on to be a productive
> citizen,
Heh! No mean feat...
B "BA" S
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Date: 02 May 2007 11:57:51
From: Donald Gillies
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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First, and only, and best, biography of a bicyclist that I have ever
read.
- Don Gillies (also a Scotsman)
San Diego, CA
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Date: 02 May 2007 19:18:56
From: Ryan Cousineau
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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In article <f1amvf$kok$1@cascade.cs.ubc.ca >,
gillies@cs.ubc.ca (Donald Gillies) wrote:
> First, and only, and best, biography of a bicyclist that I have ever
> read.
>
> - Don Gillies (also a Scotsman)
> San Diego, CA
"Lance Armstrong's War" is funny and insightful, and probably the best
account of a rather weird year in Lance's life. It's one of the better
sporting stories I've ever read, right up there with "Moneyball" and
"The Miracle of Castel di Sangro."
BTW, anyone who has not read "The Rider" by Tim Krabbé is doing
themselves a tremendous disservice. It is not only a great cycling
novel, it is a great novel.
--
Ryan Cousineau rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.wiredcola.com/
"I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos
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Date: 02 May 2007 13:23:15
From: Gary Young
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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On Wed, 02 May 2007 11:03:32 -0700, Jay Beattie wrote:
> "philcycles" <philcycles@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1178122963.561581.303030@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Prisoner at War wrote:
>>> Based on a true story, etc. -- the movie trailer makes it sound like
>>> there's a bit of technical stuff involved, too! I can't stand how
>>> they just have to have a "faithful girlfriend angle" in order to draw
>>> in the couples, but who knows, maybe this obsessive biker really did
>>> have one in real life.
>>>
>>> So who's gonna see this flick? About time they had another bicycle
>>> movie. I'm still waiting for one about NYC messengers! Preferably
>>> some kinda Hitchcock sorta thriller (mysterious package which has
>>> unnamed men in suits chasing our hero who dodges rush hour
>>> traffic)...oops, that's supposed to be my secret project! Can't
>>> figure out how to bring in the recumbents and tall bikes,
>>> though...hmmmm....
>>
>> Obree was manic depressive and that's the hook for the movie. Good
>> cycling movies are few and far between, There's a 4 hour miniseries
>> about Major Taylor starring Phil Morris, Breaking Away and American
>> Flyers, and The Bicycle Thief-just issued by Criterion on DVD in a
>> beautifully restored edition.
>> If you're looking for guys chasing an unnamed package you can't do
>> better than Ronin by John Frankenheimer. Fantastic car chases and
>> references to Japanese myths and movies. Doesn't get better than that.
>
> PeeWee's Big Adventure. Greatest cycling movie of all times. He even
> competes in the TdF. http://peeweeinthetourdefrance.ytmnd.com/ . Paul
> Reubens would have been a huge star if it were not for that monkey spanking
> incident. -- Jay Beattie.
I saw PeeWee's Big Adventure at the NYC Bicycle Film Festival with an
audience composed almost entirely of cyclists. When PeeWee discovered that
his bicycle had been stolen, you could feel the collective shudder move
its way through the crowd.
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Date: 02 May 2007 09:27:54
From: datakoll@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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in a pub sequench in Dublin, the hero and his buddies stand around
roaring drunk and laughing drinking beer from Quart dixie cups then
they go outside and piss on the cobbles.
2 radial arteries up!
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Date: 02 May 2007 09:22:43
From: philcycles
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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Prisoner at War wrote:
> Based on a true story, etc. -- the movie trailer makes it sound like
> there's a bit of technical stuff involved, too! I can't stand how
> they just have to have a "faithful girlfriend angle" in order to draw
> in the couples, but who knows, maybe this obsessive biker really did
> have one in real life.
>
> So who's gonna see this flick? About time they had another bicycle
> movie. I'm still waiting for one about NYC messengers! Preferably
> some kinda Hitchcock sorta thriller (mysterious package which has
> unnamed men in suits chasing our hero who dodges rush hour
> traffic)...oops, that's supposed to be my secret project! Can't
> figure out how to bring in the recumbents and tall bikes,
> though...hmmmm....
Obree was manic depressive and that's the hook for the movie. Good
cycling movies are few and far between, There's a 4 hour miniseries
about Major Taylor starring Phil Morris, Breaking Away and American
Flyers, and The Bicycle Thief-just issued by Criterion on DVD in a
beautifully restored edition.
If you're looking for guys chasing an unnamed package you can't do
better than Ronin by John Frankenheimer. Fantastic car chases and
references to Japanese myths and movies. Doesn't get better than that.
Phil Brown
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Date: 02 May 2007 11:03:32
From: Jay Beattie
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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"philcycles" <philcycles@aol.com > wrote in message
news:1178122963.561581.303030@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
> Prisoner at War wrote:
>> Based on a true story, etc. -- the movie trailer makes it sound like
>> there's a bit of technical stuff involved, too! I can't stand how
>> they just have to have a "faithful girlfriend angle" in order to draw
>> in the couples, but who knows, maybe this obsessive biker really did
>> have one in real life.
>>
>> So who's gonna see this flick? About time they had another bicycle
>> movie. I'm still waiting for one about NYC messengers! Preferably
>> some kinda Hitchcock sorta thriller (mysterious package which has
>> unnamed men in suits chasing our hero who dodges rush hour
>> traffic)...oops, that's supposed to be my secret project! Can't
>> figure out how to bring in the recumbents and tall bikes,
>> though...hmmmm....
>
> Obree was manic depressive and that's the hook for the movie. Good
> cycling movies are few and far between, There's a 4 hour miniseries
> about Major Taylor starring Phil Morris, Breaking Away and American
> Flyers, and The Bicycle Thief-just issued by Criterion on DVD in a
> beautifully restored edition.
> If you're looking for guys chasing an unnamed package you can't do
> better than Ronin by John Frankenheimer. Fantastic car chases and
> references to Japanese myths and movies. Doesn't get better than that.
PeeWee's Big Adventure. Greatest cycling movie of all times. He even
competes in the TdF. http://peeweeinthetourdefrance.ytmnd.com/ . Paul
Reubens would have been a huge star if it were not for that monkey spanking
incident. -- Jay Beattie.
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Date: 02 May 2007 10:10:05
From: Phil, Non-Squid
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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Prisoner at War wrote:
> Based on a true story, etc. -- the movie trailer makes it sound like
> there's a bit of technical stuff involved, too! I can't stand how
> they just have to have a "faithful girlfriend angle" in order to draw
> in the couples, but who knows, maybe this obsessive biker really did
> have one in real life.
>
> So who's gonna see this flick? About time they had another bicycle
> movie. I'm still waiting for one about NYC messengers! Preferably
> some kinda Hitchcock sorta thriller (mysterious package which has
> unnamed men in suits chasing our hero who dodges rush hour
> traffic)...oops, that's supposed to be my secret project! Can't
> figure out how to bring in the recumbents and tall bikes,
> though...hmmmm....
Hmm shot from the movie is interesting:
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0472268/32200012.jpg.html
--
Phil
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Date: 02 May 2007 13:54:17
From: John Everett
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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On 1 May 2007 17:47:14 -0700, Prisoner at War
<prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com > wrote:
>
>Based on a true story, etc. -- the movie trailer makes it sound like
>there's a bit of technical stuff involved, too! I can't stand how
>they just have to have a "faithful girlfriend angle" in order to draw
>in the couples, but who knows, maybe this obsessive biker really did
>have one in real life.
Lately you can't tap in to cycling.tv without having this trailer
shoved down your throat. :-(
>So who's gonna see this flick? About time they had another bicycle
>movie. I'm still waiting for one about NYC messengers! Preferably
>some kinda Hitchcock sorta thriller (mysterious package which has
>unnamed men in suits chasing our hero who dodges rush hour
>traffic).
Someting small enough to fit into a messenger bag instead of the trunk
of a '64 Malibu? ;-)
--
jeverett3<AT >sbcglobal<DOT>net (John V. Everett)
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Date: 02 May 2007 21:46:51
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
|
In article <kq5h335gmfps2d44usodqcjp3looaeutrv@4ax.com >,
John Everett <jeverett3@sbcglobal.DEFEAT.UCE.BOTS.net > wrote:
> On 1 May 2007 17:47:14 -0700, Prisoner at War
> <prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Based on a true story, etc. -- the movie trailer makes it sound like
> >there's a bit of technical stuff involved, too! I can't stand how
> >they just have to have a "faithful girlfriend angle" in order to draw
> >in the couples, but who knows, maybe this obsessive biker really did
> >have one in real life.
>
> Lately you can't tap in to cycling.tv without having this trailer
> shoved down your throat. :-(
>
> >So who's gonna see this flick? About time they had another bicycle
> >movie. I'm still waiting for one about NYC messengers! Preferably
> >some kinda Hitchcock sorta thriller (mysterious package which has
> >unnamed men in suits chasing our hero who dodges rush hour
> >traffic).
>
> Someting small enough to fit into a messenger bag instead of the trunk
> of a '64 Malibu? ;-)
You hear the most outrageous lies about it. Half-baked goggle-box
do-gooders telling everybody it's bad for you. Pernicious
nonsense. Everybody could stand a hundred chest X-rays a year.
They ought to have them, too. When they canceled the project it
almost did me in. One day my mind was full to bursting. The next
day--nothing. Swept away. But I'll show them. I had a lobotomy in
the end.
--
Michael Press
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Date: 03 May 2007 09:34:11
From: John Everett
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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On Wed, 02 May 2007 21:46:51 GMT, Michael Press <rubrum@pacbell.net >
wrote:
>In article <kq5h335gmfps2d44usodqcjp3looaeutrv@4ax.com>,
> John Everett <jeverett3@sbcglobal.DEFEAT.UCE.BOTS.net> wrote:
>
>> On 1 May 2007 17:47:14 -0700, Prisoner at War
>> <prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Based on a true story, etc. -- the movie trailer makes it sound like
>> >there's a bit of technical stuff involved, too! I can't stand how
>> >they just have to have a "faithful girlfriend angle" in order to draw
>> >in the couples, but who knows, maybe this obsessive biker really did
>> >have one in real life.
>>
>> Lately you can't tap in to cycling.tv without having this trailer
>> shoved down your throat. :-(
>>
>> >So who's gonna see this flick? About time they had another bicycle
>> >movie. I'm still waiting for one about NYC messengers! Preferably
>> >some kinda Hitchcock sorta thriller (mysterious package which has
>> >unnamed men in suits chasing our hero who dodges rush hour
>> >traffic).
>>
>> Someting small enough to fit into a messenger bag instead of the trunk
>> of a '64 Malibu? ;-)
>
>You hear the most outrageous lies about it. Half-baked goggle-box
>do-gooders telling everybody it's bad for you. Pernicious
>nonsense. Everybody could stand a hundred chest X-rays a year.
>They ought to have them, too. When they canceled the project it
>almost did me in. One day my mind was full to bursting. The next
>day--nothing. Swept away. But I'll show them. I had a lobotomy in
>the end.
...and they could all ride bikes that say "BICYCLE" on the downtube.
--
jeverett3<AT >sbcglobal<DOT>net (John V. Everett)
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Date: 02 May 2007 06:07:45
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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On May 2, 2:13 am, tkeats2...@hotmail.com (Tom Keats) wrote:
> In article <1178072474.151538.112...@c35g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> "datak...@yahoo.com" <datak...@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> > obree obree? now where have i herd this name?
>
> Obree One Kenobee.
>
It's a farce, Luke.
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Date: 02 May 2007 17:31:24
From: Luke
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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In article <1178111265.011225.84100@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com >, Ozark
Bicycle <bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com > wrote:
> On May 2, 2:13 am, tkeats2...@hotmail.com (Tom Keats) wrote:
> > In article <1178072474.151538.112...@c35g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> > "datak...@yahoo.com" <datak...@yahoo.com> writes:
> >
> > > obree obree? now where have i herd this name?
> >
> > Obree One Kenobee.
> >
>
> It's a farce, Luke.
>
Who is my father?
Luke
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Date: 03 May 2007 05:00:45
From: Michael Press
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
|
In article <020520071731242243%lucasiragusa@rogers.com >,
Luke <lucasiragusa@rogers.com > wrote:
> In article <1178111265.011225.84100@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>, Ozark
> Bicycle <bicycleatelier@ozarkbicycleservice.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 2, 2:13 am, tkeats2...@hotmail.com (Tom Keats) wrote:
> > > In article <1178072474.151538.112...@c35g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> > > "datak...@yahoo.com" <datak...@yahoo.com> writes:
> > >
> > > > obree obree? now where have i herd this name?
> > >
> > > Obree One Kenobee.
> > >
> >
> > It's a farce, Luke.
> >
>
> Who is my father?
It is a wise man that knows his own father.
--
Michael Press
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Date: 02 May 2007 02:00:59
From: tiborg
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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On May 2, 12:14 pm, Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On May 1, 10:04 pm, Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I might. Obree's story was rather interesting at the time.
>
> Never even heard of the guy. I'm sooooooo looking forward to this
> movie!
>
> > "Quicksilver" didn't do the job for you? :-D ISTR there is an indie
> > movie about NYC messengers out somewhere.
>
> Yeah, I've heard about something about messengers...thanks for the
> ref! But I was also hoping for fiction, or a fictionalized account.
> The only bike movies I know about are "The Thief" (the famous B&W
> Italian one), "Beijing Bicycle" (a great film, IMHO), and the Oprah
> Winfrey-endorsed dramatization of an African kid doing a pan-African
> ride or something.
Breaking Away has always been a favorite of mine. I used to go and see
it every time it showed at the local uni theater.
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Date: 02 May 2007 00:13:45
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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In article <1178072474.151538.112780@c35g2000hsg.googlegroups.com >,
"datakoll@yahoo.com" <datakoll@yahoo.com > writes:
> obree obree? now where have i herd this name?
Obree One Kenobee.
cheers,
Tom
--
Nothing is safe from me.
Above address is just a spam midden.
I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca
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Date: 01 May 2007 20:55:36
From:
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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On May 1, 11:26 pm, "nash" <zwepytzkehil...@jetable.net > wrote:
> "Prisoner at War" <prisoner_at_...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:1178066833.995308.27660@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Based on a true story, etc. -- the movie trailer makes it sound like
> > there's a bit of technical stuff involved, too! I can't stand how
> > they just have to have a "faithful girlfriend angle" in order to draw
> > in the couples, but who knows, maybe this obsessive biker really did
> > have one in real life.
>
> > So who's gonna see this flick? About time they had another bicycle
> > movie. I'm still waiting for one about NYC messengers! Preferably
> > some kinda Hitchcock sorta thriller (mysterious package which has
> > unnamed men in suits chasing our hero who dodges rush hour
> > traffic)...oops, that's supposed to be my secret project! Can't
> > figure out how to bring in the recumbents and tall bikes,
> > though...hmmmm....
>
> There was a book about a bike messenger set in the future by a Gibson or
> Ibsen maybe Canadian Science Fiction writer once from the 90's.
William Gibson. He's most famous for having written "Neuromancer" in
the early 80s which inspired the genre of SF that includes The
Matrix. More recently he wrote a couple of books that do include a
character who's a former SF (San Francisco this time) bike messenger.
What little stuff about bikes there is is pretty cool, but there's not
much of it. Fantastic books though nonetheless. They're called
"Virtual Light," "Idoru," and "All Tomorrow's Parties."
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Date: 02 May 2007 00:53:08
From: Zoot Katz
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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On 1 May 2007 20:55:36 -0700, gytterberg@gmail.com wrote:
>William Gibson. He's most famous for having written "Neuromancer" in
>the early 80s which inspired the genre of SF that includes The
>Matrix. More recently he wrote a couple of books that do include a
>character who's a former SF (San Francisco this time) bike messenger.
>What little stuff about bikes there is is pretty cool, but there's not
>much of it. Fantastic books though nonetheless. They're called
>"Virtual Light," "Idoru," and "All Tomorrow's Parties."
. . . collectively known as his "bridge trilogy" since most of the
action takes place on the Oakland Bay Bridge that had become a squat.
Gibson supposedly hates the "cyber-punk" label coined by others to
describe his original works that spawned that whole new genre of
science fiction.
More bike movies:
http://bicycleuniverse.info/stuff/movies.html
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zk
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Date: 02 May 2007 03:26:58
From: nash
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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"Prisoner at War" <prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1178066833.995308.27660@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
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> Based on a true story, etc. -- the movie trailer makes it sound like
> there's a bit of technical stuff involved, too! I can't stand how
> they just have to have a "faithful girlfriend angle" in order to draw
> in the couples, but who knows, maybe this obsessive biker really did
> have one in real life.
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> So who's gonna see this flick? About time they had another bicycle
> movie. I'm still waiting for one about NYC messengers! Preferably
> some kinda Hitchcock sorta thriller (mysterious package which has
> unnamed men in suits chasing our hero who dodges rush hour
> traffic)...oops, that's supposed to be my secret project! Can't
> figure out how to bring in the recumbents and tall bikes,
> though...hmmmm....
There was a book about a bike messenger set in the future by a Gibson or
Ibsen maybe Canadian Science Fiction writer once from the 90's.
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Date: 01 May 2007 20:14:26
From: Prisoner at War
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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On May 1, 10:04 pm, Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net > wrote:
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> I might. Obree's story was rather interesting at the time.
Never even heard of the guy. I'm sooooooo looking forward to this
movie!
> "Quicksilver" didn't do the job for you? :-D ISTR there is an indie
> movie about NYC messengers out somewhere.
Yeah, I've heard about something about messengers...thanks for the
ref! But I was also hoping for fiction, or a fictionalized account.
The only bike movies I know about are "The Thief" (the famous B&W
Italian one), "Beijing Bicycle" (a great film, IMHO), and the Oprah
Winfrey-endorsed dramatization of an African kid doing a pan-African
ride or something.
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Date: 01 May 2007 19:21:14
From: datakoll@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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obree obree? now where have i herd this name? in bike mag? that obree?
the irish madman? grrrreat story.
say how bout a round yurp cycling drug orgy ala Stone? now there's a
flick you could get ur pump into!!! comon braun, i'll buy dinner!
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Date: 01 May 2007 21:04:01
From: Tim McNamara
Subject: Re: So Who's Gonna See "The Flying Scotsman"??
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In article <1178066833.995308.27660@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com >,
Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Based on a true story, etc. -- the movie trailer makes it sound like
> there's a bit of technical stuff involved, too! I can't stand how
> they just have to have a "faithful girlfriend angle" in order to draw
> in the couples, but who knows, maybe this obsessive biker really did
> have one in real life.
>
> So who's gonna see this flick?
I might. Obree's story was rather interesting at the time.
> About time they had another bicycle
> movie. I'm still waiting for one about NYC messengers! Preferably
> some kinda Hitchcock sorta thriller (mysterious package which has
> unnamed men in suits chasing our hero who dodges rush hour
> traffic)...oops, that's supposed to be my secret project!
"Quicksilver" didn't do the job for you? :-D ISTR there is an indie
movie about NYC messengers out somewhere.
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