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Date: 09 Oct 2006 03:02:27
From: Marian
Subject: Sore Wrists
While I was in the US over the summer I sold my road bike. Upon
returning to China I got a new one. It isn't as flash as the old bike
but it is acceptable and then some. The old bike was a baby race bike.
The new bike is a commuter. When I get a job and paycheck I can get
myself a proper race bike.

Probably the biggest difference between this road bike and the last one
is that it fits me. When I first got on it I felt strangely hunched
over on this tiny thing that disappeared underneath me. This feeling
came from having an overlarge road bike for the last 12,000 kilometers
and my other bike also being too big. But, after riding it for a few
days it was obvious from the way I was comfortable on the brake hoods,
could reach the brakes while on the drops, and didn't have a sore back
anymore that this fit was right.

With Brooks saddle and a new pair of ergonomic handlebars that make the
drops even more comfortable I'm feeling quite a bit of infatuation.

I've only got one problem.

My wrists hurt.

Not all the time mind you, nor even most of the time. They don't hurt
on smooth roads. They don't hurt on badly potholed roads. They don't
hurt on high quality dirt roads. They don't even hurt on stupid crazy
ought to be mountain biking it singletracks. It's the bumpety patchy
roads that hurt.

Roads which I didn't like on the good bike but which I most certainly
didn't hate. I didn't like them cause I couldn't go fast on them.

Any ideas?

-M





 
Date: 29 Oct 2006 04:07:33
From: marian.rosenberg@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Sore Wrists

ian wrote:

> With Brooks saddle and a new pair of ergonomic handlebars that make the
> drops even more comfortable I'm feeling quite a bit of infatuation.
>
> I've only got one problem.
>
> My wrists hurt.

I'm still none too keen on bumpety patchy roads but much of the sore
wrist problem has been fixed. In fact after this weekend's 70km on the
Haikou-Chengmai state road, 140km Chengmai-Wenchang on a widely varied
selection from farm roads to provincial roads to state roads to being
lost in a banana plantation and 100km today from Wenchang back to
Haikou my wrists are one of the few bits of me that doesn't hurt.

The dramatic fix involved being run off the road and crashing into a
parked car so I'd have a good reason to get a new fork. The old one
wasn't merely bent, but bent so badly it was visible to the uneducated
naked eye.

The less dramatic fix was adjusting the saddle which was tilted down
too much.

-M



 
Date: 25 Oct 2006 20:47:48
From: Chris Foster
Subject: Re: Sore Wrists
"ian" <ian.rosenberg@gmail.com > wrote in
news:1160388147.155139.295380@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> While I was in the US over the summer I sold my road bike. Upon
> returning to China I got a new one. It isn't as flash as the old bike
> but it is acceptable and then some. The old bike was a baby race bike.
> The new bike is a commuter. When I get a job and paycheck I can get
> myself a proper race bike.
>
> Probably the biggest difference between this road bike and the last one
> is that it fits me. When I first got on it I felt strangely hunched
> over on this tiny thing that disappeared underneath me. This feeling
> came from having an overlarge road bike for the last 12,000 kilometers
> and my other bike also being too big. But, after riding it for a few
> days it was obvious from the way I was comfortable on the brake hoods,
> could reach the brakes while on the drops, and didn't have a sore back
> anymore that this fit was right.
>
> With Brooks saddle and a new pair of ergonomic handlebars that make the
> drops even more comfortable I'm feeling quite a bit of infatuation.
>
> I've only got one problem.
>
> My wrists hurt.
>
> Not all the time mind you, nor even most of the time. They don't hurt
> on smooth roads. They don't hurt on badly potholed roads. They don't
> hurt on high quality dirt roads. They don't even hurt on stupid crazy
> ought to be mountain biking it singletracks. It's the bumpety patchy
> roads that hurt.
>
> Roads which I didn't like on the good bike but which I most certainly
> didn't hate. I didn't like them cause I couldn't go fast on them.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> -M
>

Stop wanking so much

--
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Date: 10 Oct 2006 02:17:32
From: marian.rosenberg@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Sore Wrists

catzz66 wrote:
> ian wrote:
> >
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> >
>
> Do you ride pretty stiff? Riding on urban streets, some of which are
> quite rough, I have had to adapt to riding pretty loose, keeping a good
> grip on the hoods but letting my arms take up the shock. Even though
> you may think you have a good fit, is there any chance your seat might
> be too far forward?

I don't -think- I ride stiff.

The biggest thing I'm noticing is that there is only one kind of
bumpety road that makes my wrists hurt, and it isn't even the worst of
what I've taken this bike on. So far the two I've been on with this
problem were both national routes. They were probably paved sometime
in the 1970s and although kept up would not have been repaved and would
have gotten heavy truck traffic until the expressways started being
built about 10 years ago.

There are no potholes to speak of but the road has lumps and bumps and
uneven patched bits. Any amount of speed results in my water bottles
jouncing out of their cages (which I remember being a problem on the
last bike) but if I sit up and ride handsfree it doesn't particularly
make my back or shoulders hurt. The only part of me that really seems
bothered by the road is my wrists.

-M



  
Date: 10 Oct 2006 09:22:34
From: Chris Y.F.N.W.
Subject: Re: Sore Wrists
avoid those roads?

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Date: 10 Oct 2006 05:48:12
From: catzz66
Subject: Re: Sore Wrists
ian.rosenberg@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>Do you ride pretty stiff? Riding on urban streets, some of which are
>>quite rough, I have had to adapt to riding pretty loose, keeping a good
>>grip on the hoods but letting my arms take up the shock. Even though
>>you may think you have a good fit, is there any chance your seat might
>>be too far forward?
>
>
> I don't -think- I ride stiff.
>
> The biggest thing I'm noticing is that there is only one kind of
> bumpety road that makes my wrists hurt, and it isn't even the worst of
> what I've taken this bike on. So far the two I've been on with this
> problem were both national routes. They were probably paved sometime
> in the 1970s and although kept up would not have been repaved and would
> have gotten heavy truck traffic until the expressways started being
> built about 10 years ago.
>
> There are no potholes to speak of but the road has lumps and bumps and
> uneven patched bits. Any amount of speed results in my water bottles
> jouncing out of their cages (which I remember being a problem on the
> last bike) but if I sit up and ride handsfree it doesn't particularly
> make my back or shoulders hurt. The only part of me that really seems
> bothered by the road is my wrists.
>
>

I ride through a lot of patched asphalt roads. When I am going through
the worst of them, I also raise up barely out of the saddle in addition
to letting my arms be the shock absorbers. I have two different bikes
and notice the road shock on the lighter one more than the heavier one.
I don't know what other people do but this has worked for me. I tend
to take secondary streets to avoid most of the traffic and around here
they are just not maintained as well as the main traffic arteries.


 
Date: 10 Oct 2006 03:13:00
From: 5665eiksk
Subject: Re: Sore Wrists
two words come to mind soft ride oops 3 if you count stem

"ian" <ian.rosenberg@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1160388147.155139.295380@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> While I was in the US over the summer I sold my road bike. Upon
> returning to China I got a new one. It isn't as flash as the old bike
> but it is acceptable and then some. The old bike was a baby race bike.
> The new bike is a commuter. When I get a job and paycheck I can get
> myself a proper race bike.
>
> Probably the biggest difference between this road bike and the last one
> is that it fits me. When I first got on it I felt strangely hunched
> over on this tiny thing that disappeared underneath me. This feeling
> came from having an overlarge road bike for the last 12,000 kilometers
> and my other bike also being too big. But, after riding it for a few
> days it was obvious from the way I was comfortable on the brake hoods,
> could reach the brakes while on the drops, and didn't have a sore back
> anymore that this fit was right.
>
> With Brooks saddle and a new pair of ergonomic handlebars that make the
> drops even more comfortable I'm feeling quite a bit of infatuation.
>
> I've only got one problem.
>
> My wrists hurt.
>
> Not all the time mind you, nor even most of the time. They don't hurt
> on smooth roads. They don't hurt on badly potholed roads. They don't
> hurt on high quality dirt roads. They don't even hurt on stupid crazy
> ought to be mountain biking it singletracks. It's the bumpety patchy
> roads that hurt.
>
> Roads which I didn't like on the good bike but which I most certainly
> didn't hate. I didn't like them cause I couldn't go fast on them.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> -M
>




 
Date: 09 Oct 2006 19:14:03
From: David L. Johnson
Subject: Re: Sore Wrists
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 19:14:27 +0000, sally wrote:

> In article <tPwWg.4714$NE6.1012@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>,
> bill <bbaka@syix.com> wrote:
>>Huh?
>>Geometry says that the more upright you sit the more of your weight is
>>going on your butt and not on your wrists.
>
> Sitting upright forces your body weight down onto your hands and spine.
> Bending over more allows your waist and elbows and legs to absorb
> the road shock.

What? How does sitting upright force your body weight down onto your
hands? Spine, yes, but not your hands. Most people who sit upright do
bend their elbows, so they will absorb road shock.

--

David L. Johnson

__o


  
Date: 10 Oct 2006 01:23:17
From: bill
Subject: Re: Sore Wrists
David L. Johnson wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 19:14:27 +0000, sally wrote:
>
>> In article <tPwWg.4714$NE6.1012@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>,
>> bill <bbaka@syix.com> wrote:
>>> Huh?
>>> Geometry says that the more upright you sit the more of your weight is
>>> going on your butt and not on your wrists.
>> Sitting upright forces your body weight down onto your hands and spine.
>> Bending over more allows your waist and elbows and legs to absorb
>> the road shock.
>
> What? How does sitting upright force your body weight down onto your
> hands? Spine, yes, but not your hands. Most people who sit upright do
> bend their elbows, so they will absorb road shock.
>
At least one of you guys flunked basic Geometry, didn't you? Sitting
upright by the most basic definition shifts the weight back on your
rear, no buts (accidental pun).
Bill


 
Date: 09 Oct 2006 14:24:45
From: catzz66
Subject: Re: Sore Wrists
ian wrote:
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
>

Do you ride pretty stiff? Riding on urban streets, some of which are
quite rough, I have had to adapt to riding pretty loose, keeping a good
grip on the hoods but letting my arms take up the shock. Even though
you may think you have a good fit, is there any chance your seat might
be too far forward?


 
Date: 09 Oct 2006 17:19:50
From: sally
Subject: Re: Sore Wrists
In article <1160388147.155139.295380@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com >,
ian <ian.rosenberg@gmail.com > wrote:
>My wrists hurt.

Wrist pain is usually due to poor posture, e.g., not bending your elbows
and waist enough. A very upright riding position puts too much weight on
your shoulders and hands.


  
Date: 09 Oct 2006 18:47:53
From: bill
Subject: Re: Sore Wrists
sally wrote:
> In article <1160388147.155139.295380@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> ian <ian.rosenberg@gmail.com> wrote:
>> My wrists hurt.
>
> Wrist pain is usually due to poor posture, e.g., not bending your elbows
> and waist enough. A very upright riding position puts too much weight on
> your shoulders and hands.

Huh?
Geometry says that the more upright you sit the more of your weight is
going on your butt and not on your wrists. I sort of proved this on a
speed run a few weeks back when I was going downhill and put my legs up
on the back rack for some super streamlining. It gained me about ten
miles per hour on the downhill but almost cost me control of the bike at
a way too high speed because there was so much weight on my wrists that
I could barely hold my chin off the bars. When I got my feet back down
and sat up my wrists were a bunch better and the air drag slowed me ten
MPH real fast.
Bill Baka


   
Date: 09 Oct 2006 19:14:27
From: sally
Subject: Re: Sore Wrists
In article <tPwWg.4714$NE6.1012@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com >,
bill <bbaka@syix.com > wrote:
>Huh?
>Geometry says that the more upright you sit the more of your weight is
>going on your butt and not on your wrists.

Sitting upright forces your body weight down onto your hands and spine.
Bending over more allows your waist and elbows and legs to absorb
the road shock.


    
Date: 10 Oct 2006 01:20:46
From: bill
Subject: Re: Sore Wrists
sally wrote:
> In article <tPwWg.4714$NE6.1012@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>,
> bill <bbaka@syix.com> wrote:
>> Huh?
>> Geometry says that the more upright you sit the more of your weight is
>> going on your butt and not on your wrists.
>
> Sitting upright forces your body weight down onto your hands and spine.
> Bending over more allows your waist and elbows and legs to absorb
> the road shock.

Go back to school.
Bill