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Date: 02 Mar 2007 13:47:45
From: treynolds@my-deja.com
Subject: Switching between Campy Ergo and Shimano STI
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This is not a question about compatibility or which is better.
I have 9 road bikes and four have Shimano STI. I recently acquired an
88 Schwinn Circuit that I love and want to put modern components on
it. When Shimano went to 10 speed and their prices shot through the
roof I assumed I wouldn't buy their STIs again. Even the Tiagra 9sp
is now almost $300!
So I've considered Campy Veloce. Excel Sports has them for $139,
Nashbar for $169. It sounds great but my hands have been trained for
10+ years to quickly shift STIs. I worried that I would be forever
making the wrong shift when I jumped on the Campy bike.
So has anyone had experience switching back and forth between the
two? Please keep in mind that I'm not going to ditch my STIs. I'll
be constantly going back and forth between them.
TIA,
Tom
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Date: 07 Mar 2007 21:02:01
From: Matt O'Toole
Subject: Re: Switching between Campy Ergo and Shimano STI
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On Fri, 02 2007 13:47:45 -0800, treynolds@my-deja.com wrote:
> This is not a question about compatibility or which is better.
>
> I have 9 road bikes and four have Shimano STI. I recently acquired an
> 88 Schwinn Circuit that I love and want to put modern components on
> it. When Shimano went to 10 speed and their prices shot through the
> roof I assumed I wouldn't buy their STIs again. Even the Tiagra 9sp
> is now almost $300!
>
> So I've considered Campy Veloce. Excel Sports has them for $139,
> Nashbar for $169. It sounds great but my hands have been trained for
> 10+ years to quickly shift STIs. I worried that I would be forever
> making the wrong shift when I jumped on the Campy bike.
>
> So has anyone had experience switching back and forth between the
> two? Please keep in mind that I'm not going to ditch my STIs. I'll
> be constantly going back and forth between them.
I don't have any trouble. The systems are different enough that I don't
get confused. I do think it's harder to go to Campy than back to Shimano,
even though I have a slight preference for the way Campy works. I confess
I haven't ridden a Campy bike in awhile though.
Matt O.
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Date: 03 Mar 2007 08:59:06
From: Ron Ruff
Subject: Re: Switching between Campy Ergo and Shimano STI
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On 2, 6:53 pm, "treyno...@my-deja.com"
<thomas.treyno...@gmail.com > wrote:
> Is there a functional difference between 2006 and 2007? I'm wondering
> why you ask.
Campy went to a cheaper lighter shifting mech for 2007 on Veloce and
Centaur. I think it will only shift one gear at a time now, whereas
the old style shifted multiple gears. Only Chorus and Record will do
that now.
I bought some 2006 Veloce shifters for $95 a couple of months ago.
They look and work very nice... and are lighter than Dura Ace! With
Hubbub routing they shift Shimano 9spd drivetrains fine.
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Date: 07 Mar 2007 21:06:21
From: Matt O'Toole
Subject: Re: Switching between Campy Ergo and Shimano STI
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On Sat, 03 2007 08:59:06 -0800, Ron Ruff wrote:
> Campy went to a cheaper lighter shifting mech for 2007 on Veloce and
> Centaur. I think it will only shift one gear at a time now, whereas
> the old style shifted multiple gears. Only Chorus and Record will do
> that now.
Eew. I guess they had to give us some reason to buy the more expensive
stuff. Value-wise, they were practically giving Veloce away.
> I bought some 2006 Veloce shifters for $95 a couple of months ago. They
> look and work very nice... and are lighter than Dura Ace! With Hubbub
> routing they shift Shimano 9spd drivetrains fine.
Nice to know for when my Ultegras give up the ghost.
BTW, has anyone noticed how freaking expensive the new SRAM stuff is?
Matt O.
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Date: 03 Mar 2007 03:15:55
From:
Subject: Re: Switching between Campy Ergo and Shimano STI
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Have both and the switch is easy. The thumb sometimes goes for a ghost
shift on the STI levers, but the fingers figure things out pretty
quick by themselves.
In terms of prices, I see Centaurs around 169$ or less at lots of
places so go with that and try 2006 if possible. (See previous threads
for more info. e.g. http://tinyurl.com/2ylqnv.)
Josh
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Date: 02 Mar 2007 21:39:01
From: Patrick Lamb
Subject: Re: Switching between Campy Ergo and Shimano STI
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On 2 2007 13:47:45 -0800, "treynolds@my-deja.com"
<thomas.treynolds@gmail.com > wrote:
>This is not a question about compatibility or which is better.
>
>I have 9 road bikes and four have Shimano STI. I recently acquired an
>88 Schwinn Circuit that I love and want to put modern components on
>it. When Shimano went to 10 speed and their prices shot through the
>roof I assumed I wouldn't buy their STIs again. Even the Tiagra 9sp
>is now almost $300!
>
>So has anyone had experience switching back and forth between the
>two? Please keep in mind that I'm not going to ditch my STIs. I'll
>be constantly going back and forth between them.
I've got one of each, and usually ride each at least a couple times a
week. When I switch, I usually shift down a gear getting started, and
that seems to flip the mental switch that tells me which one I'm
riding today. Aside from the first, starting, shift, I probably blow
a shift 1-2 times a month. And of those, I can really only remember
one upshift heading up a roller that mattered. I have more trouble
hitting the middle ring without overshooting on the Shimano bike than
I have with the different shifters by a fair gin.
Pat
Email address works as is.
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Date: 02 Mar 2007 19:26:01
From: jim beam
Subject: Re: Switching between Campy Ergo and Shimano STI
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treynolds@my-deja.com wrote:
> This is not a question about compatibility or which is better.
>
> I have 9 road bikes and four have Shimano STI. I recently acquired an
> 88 Schwinn Circuit that I love and want to put modern components on
> it. When Shimano went to 10 speed and their prices shot through the
> roof I assumed I wouldn't buy their STIs again. Even the Tiagra 9sp
> is now almost $300!
>
> So I've considered Campy Veloce. Excel Sports has them for $139,
> Nashbar for $169. It sounds great but my hands have been trained for
> 10+ years to quickly shift STIs. I worried that I would be forever
> making the wrong shift when I jumped on the Campy bike.
>
> So has anyone had experience switching back and forth between the
> two? Please keep in mind that I'm not going to ditch my STIs. I'll
> be constantly going back and forth between them.
>
> TIA,
> Tom
>
fwiw, as a former hardcore campy fan, i got sick of failed campy index
collars, so i transitioned to sti for my main steeds. i found that
switch easy. don't find going back so easy tho. no logical reason as
both are simple and intuitive, just my experience every time i take one
of my campy bikes back on the road.
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Date: 02 Mar 2007 17:53:25
From: treynolds@my-deja.com
Subject: Re: Switching between Campy Ergo and Shimano STI
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On 2, 4:08 pm, "Qui si parla Campagnolo" <p...@vecchios.com >
wrote:
> It is not that hard, very intuitive. Besides, if ya go up in stead of
> down, so what.
Most of the time it isn't a big deal. When accelerating out of a hole
in traffic it can be a very big deal. (I commute in morning rush
hour).
>
> 2006 Veloce? or 2007?- Hide quoted text -
>
Excel Sports has 2007 for $139:
http://www.excelsports.com/new.asp?page=8&major=1&minor=20&description=Veloce+Ergopower+QS+10sp+Levers&vendorCode=CAMP
Is there a functional difference between 2006 and 2007? I'm wondering
why you ask.
Tom
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Date: 02 Mar 2007 17:12:11
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Switching between Campy Ergo and Shimano STI
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On 2, 3:47 pm, "treyno...@my-deja.com"
<thomas.treyno...@gmail.com > wrote:
> This is not a question about compatibility or which is better.
>
> I have 9 road bikes and four have Shimano STI. I recently acquired an
> 88 Schwinn Circuit that I love and want to put modern components on
> it. When Shimano went to 10 speed and their prices shot through the
> roof I assumed I wouldn't buy their STIs again. Even the Tiagra 9sp
> is now almost $300!
>
> So I've considered Campy Veloce. Excel Sports has them for $139,
> Nashbar for $169. It sounds great but my hands have been trained for
> 10+ years to quickly shift STIs. I worried that I would be forever
> making the wrong shift when I jumped on the Campy bike.
>
> So has anyone had experience switching back and forth between the
> two? Please keep in mind that I'm not going to ditch my STIs. I'll
> be constantly going back and forth between them.
You'll be just fine. Ya might want to think about running a Shimano
compatible rear wheel and cassette with a Jtek Shiftmate so you can
interchange the wheels with the rest of the herd. You can run either a
Campy or Shimano rear mech depending on the Shiftmate version.
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Date: 03 Mar 2007 07:56:52
From: Mark Hickey
Subject: Re: Switching between Campy Ergo and Shimano STI
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"landotter" <landotter@gmail.com > wrote:
><thomas.treyno...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have 9 road bikes and four have Shimano STI. I recently acquired an
>> 88 Schwinn Circuit that I love and want to put modern components on
>> it. When Shimano went to 10 speed and their prices shot through the
>> roof I assumed I wouldn't buy their STIs again. Even the Tiagra 9sp
>> is now almost $300!
>>
>> So I've considered Campy Veloce. Excel Sports has them for $139,
>> Nashbar for $169. It sounds great but my hands have been trained for
>> 10+ years to quickly shift STIs. I worried that I would be forever
>> making the wrong shift when I jumped on the Campy bike.
>>
>> So has anyone had experience switching back and forth between the
>> two? Please keep in mind that I'm not going to ditch my STIs. I'll
>> be constantly going back and forth between them.
>
>You'll be just fine. Ya might want to think about running a Shimano
>compatible rear wheel and cassette with a Jtek Shiftmate so you can
>interchange the wheels with the rest of the herd. You can run either a
>Campy or Shimano rear mech depending on the Shiftmate version.
Smokin' deal on the Veloce brifters. That's without a doubt what I'd
recommend). I built up the bike I ride the most these days with a
Veloce drive train, and haven't ever had a second thought about it.
And assuming the rest of your bikes are 9 speed, the mix-and-match
wheel options will all work flawlessly (the same applies if they were
all 10 speed).
I'm like others who say that they find the Campy design more intuitive
than the STI shift lever design.
k Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $795 ti frame
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Date: 02 Mar 2007 16:08:39
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo
Subject: Re: Switching between Campy Ergo and Shimano STI
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On 2, 1:47 pm, "treyno...@my-deja.com"
<thomas.treyno...@gmail.com > wrote:
> This is not a question about compatibility or which is better.
>
> I have 9 road bikes and four have Shimano STI. I recently acquired an
> 88 Schwinn Circuit that I love and want to put modern components on
> it. When Shimano went to 10 speed and their prices shot through the
> roof I assumed I wouldn't buy their STIs again. Even the Tiagra 9sp
> is now almost $300!
>
> So I've considered Campy Veloce. Excel Sports has them for $139,
> Nashbar for $169. It sounds great but my hands have been trained for
> 10+ years to quickly shift STIs. I worried that I would be forever
> making the wrong shift when I jumped on the Campy bike.
>
> So has anyone had experience switching back and forth between the
> two? Please keep in mind that I'm not going to ditch my STIs. I'll
> be constantly going back and forth between them.
>
> TIA,
> Tom
It is not that hard, very intuitive. Besides, if ya go up in stead of
down, so what.
2006 Veloce? or 2007?
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