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Date: 23 Apr 2007 21:20:03
From: Steve Sr.
Subject: Taller Stem For Older Mtn Bike - Options?

MTB gurus,

I have a 1992 vintage Trek 950 MTB and would like to raise the stem to
improve the fit (too much weight on hands). This bike is ridden
mostly on dirt roads and rail trails. I do very little single track.

The existing stem is adjusted all the way up to the maximum line. The
current stem appears to be a 1" quill. The headset is marked Tioga -
Avenger - Japan if that helps any. The bar diameter appears to be 1"
as well.

The first issue is whether or not 1" quill MTB stems are still
available.

The second issue is that the cable for the front brake goes through
and uses the stem for the cable stop. Somebody should get an award for
that one! So even if I find a longer stem if it doesn't have a brake
cable hole I will need some kind of bracket to hold the end of the
brake cable. I have seen these before on older bikes but have no idea
where to look for just the bracket and for one that would fit under
the headset nut.

Can any of you offer any hints or suggestions or are these parts all
long since obsolete?

Thanks,

Steve

Date: 02 May 2007 19:37:36
From: Ozark Bicycle
Subject: Re: Taller Stem For Older Mtn Bike - Options?

On May 2, 8:41 pm, Steve Sr. <Nos...@nospam.com > wrote:
> On Tue, 01 May 2007 22:03:55 -0500, A Muzi <a...@yellowjersey.org>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >>> On Apr 23, 9:20 pm, Steve Sr. <Nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >>>> MTB gurus,
>
> >>>> I have a 1992 vintage Trek 950 MTB and would like to raise the stem to
> >>>> improve the fit (too much weight on hands). This bike is ridden
> >>>> mostly on dirt roads and rail trails. I do very little single track.
>
> >>>> The existing stem is adjusted all the way up to the maximum line. The
> >>>> current stem appears to be a 1" quill. The headset is marked Tioga -
> >>>> Avenger - Japan if that helps any. The bar diameter appears to be 1"
> >>>> as well.
>
> >>>> The first issue is whether or not 1" quill MTB stems are still
> >>>> available.
>
> >>>> The second issue is that the cable for the front brake goes through
> >>>> and uses the stem for the cable stop. Somebody should get an award for
> >>>> that one! So even if I find a longer stem if it doesn't have a brake
> >>>> cable hole I will need some kind of bracket to hold the end of the
> >>>> brake cable. I have seen these before on older bikes but have no idea
> >>>> where to look for just the bracket and for one that would fit under
> >>>> the headset nut.
>
> >>>> Can any of you offer any hints or suggestions or are these parts all
> >>>> long since obsolete?
>
> >> Sir Ridesalot <i_am_cycle_pat...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> >>> Some others have also mentioned the adjustable quill stems.
> >>> Here is a link to my converted mtb with the adjustable stem and drop
> >>> bars so you can see what that stem looks like.
> >>>http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=193571690&size=o
> >>> In the picture the stem is almost 90 degrees from the quill. I can be
> >>> rotated up and back so that it is almost vertical. So you have an idea
> >>> of how much height can be gained. What is great with the adjustable
> >>> stem i s that you can raise or lower the bars to suit the conditions
> >>> of the road you are riding. For example On rough dirt or fire roads
> >>> where you might want a more upright position for visibility you can
> >>> raise the stem. Then if you want to ride fast on paved roads later you
> >>> can lower the stem again.
> >>> That is the Radical adjustable stem and it sells for about $25
> >>> Canadian.
>
> >Steve Sr. wrote:
> >> Thanks for the picture of your converted Miele. It looks like you have
> >> long arms to have the bars that much lower than the saddle.
> >> Unfortunately I have just the opposite problem - short arms. I need to
> >> have the bars about even with or a little higher than the saddle.
> >> To continue the saga I stopped by my local LBS yesterday to look
> >> through the catalogs. We started with QBP then Hawley and finally BTS?
> >> Apparently due to the way quill stems are measured (O.D of the steerer
> >> tube that you can't see and not the quill diameter itself) what I
> >> really have is a 1 1/8" quill stem.
> >> I did some measuring of the current stem and it measures as follows.
> >> The height at the minimum insertion depth is 100mm to the top of the
> >> quill bolt. The stem reach is 115mm at an angle of 120 degrees from
> >> the axis of the stem (30 degrees rise from perpendicular to the stem).
> >> With the new setup I would like to increase the max bar height to
> >> about 25-40mm higher than it is now. In looking through all of the
> >> catalogs there were few quill stems that were long and none were 1
> >> 1/8". Apparently 1 1/8" quill is a red-headed step child that didn't
> >> last long before threadless emerged.
> >> Can anyone else offer any other places to look for a long 1 1/8 "
> >> quill stem?
> >> If I can't find a stem I guess I will have to look at a long 1 1/8"
> >> quill to 1 1/8" threadless adapter. Have any of you seen these that
> >> would be tall enough to fit the above requirements? Unfortunately, I
> >> didn't have time to look at these when I was at the store.
>
> >I am amazed some of these all-too-quixotic searches for the commonplace.
>
> >Your Trek's "1-1/8" system uses a quill that's one inch diameter, a very
> >standard item, adjustable models being found on new 2007 bikes probably
> >in that very shop! Look at some sub-$500 'hybrid' models for example.
>
> >Any competent LBS which commonly services bicycles will have these in
> >silver or black, under $30.
>
> >p.s. There was at one time an "evolution" type 1-1/4 system using a
> >1-1/8 stem - but not on a Trek 930. Evo quills are indeed rare now.
>
> Andrew,
>
> I guess that we just don't have any good LBS's in this area. They all
> tend to deal out of the QBP or Hawley catalogs. They would also never
> stock something as old and odd as a 140mm tall quill stem. I also
> looked at the Harris site and they just send you to the online QBP
> catalog.
>

How about this, from Nashbar?

http://tinyurl.com/2t8wmf

Date: 26 Apr 2007 19:41:48
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Taller Stem For Older Mtn Bike - Options?

On Apr 25, 5:07 pm, Camilo <campasc...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> On Apr 24, 7:15 am, landotter <landot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Stem raisers work, but are UGLY.
>
> > Treat yourself to a handsome Nitto Periscopa stem ($20-30) and a cable
> > hanger($3).http://tinyurl.com/2rsxkv
>
> Gotta agree with landotter here. I have a Zoom adjustable 1" quill
> stem on my old, too small road bike and it is indeed butt ugly. I
> bought it intending to mess with it and then replace with a qulll stem
> of the appropriate size. I rode that bike yesterday and it reminded
> me how ugly it is on a road bike. Frankly, I think it would look OK
> on a mountain bike though.

As an aside, I think those adjustable stems are fantastic for helping
folk dial in their bars. Once you're comfy, then you can deal with the
much less important aesthetics of the thing.

Date: 26 Apr 2007 17:15:17
From: Sir Ridesalot
Subject: Re: Taller Stem For Older Mtn Bike - Options?

On Apr 23, 9:20 pm, Steve Sr. <Nos...@nospam.com > wrote:
> MTB gurus,
>
> I have a 1992 vintage Trek 950 MTB and would like to raise the stem to
> improve the fit (too much weight on hands). This bike is ridden
> mostly on dirt roads and rail trails. I do very little single track.
>
> The existing stem is adjusted all the way up to the maximum line. The
> current stem appears to be a 1" quill. The headset is marked Tioga -
> Avenger - Japan if that helps any. The bar diameter appears to be 1"
> as well.
>
> The first issue is whether or not 1" quill MTB stems are still
> available.
>
> The second issue is that the cable for the front brake goes through
> and uses the stem for the cable stop. Somebody should get an award for
> that one! So even if I find a longer stem if it doesn't have a brake
> cable hole I will need some kind of bracket to hold the end of the
> brake cable. I have seen these before on older bikes but have no idea
> where to look for just the bracket and for one that would fit under
> the headset nut.
>
> Can any of you offer any hints or suggestions or are these parts all
> long since obsolete?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve

Hi there Steve.

Some others have also mentioned the adjustable quill stems.

Here is a link to my converted mtb with the adjustable stem and drop
bars so you can see what that stem looks like.

http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=193571690&size=o

In the picture the stem is almost 90 degrees from the quill. I can be
rotated up and back so that it is almost vertical. So you have an idea
of how much height can be gained. What is great with the adjustable
stem i s that you can raise or lower the bars to suit the conditions
of the road you are riding. For example On rough dirt or fire roads
where you might want a more upright position for visibility you can
raise the stem. Then if you want to ride fast on paved roads later you
can lower the stem again.

That is the Radical adjustable stem and it sells for about $25
Canadian.

Cheers from Peter

Date: 01 May 2007 21:36:45
From: Steve Sr.
Subject: Re: Taller Stem For Older Mtn Bike - Options?

On 26 Apr 2007 17:15:17 -0700, Sir Ridesalot
<i_am_cycle_pathic@yahoo.ca > wrote:

>On Apr 23, 9:20 pm, Steve Sr. <Nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> MTB gurus,
>>
>> I have a 1992 vintage Trek 950 MTB and would like to raise the stem to
>> improve the fit (too much weight on hands). This bike is ridden
>> mostly on dirt roads and rail trails. I do very little single track.
>>
>> The existing stem is adjusted all the way up to the maximum line. The
>> current stem appears to be a 1" quill. The headset is marked Tioga -
>> Avenger - Japan if that helps any. The bar diameter appears to be 1"
>> as well.
>>
>> The first issue is whether or not 1" quill MTB stems are still
>> available.
>>
>> The second issue is that the cable for the front brake goes through
>> and uses the stem for the cable stop. Somebody should get an award for
>> that one! So even if I find a longer stem if it doesn't have a brake
>> cable hole I will need some kind of bracket to hold the end of the
>> brake cable. I have seen these before on older bikes but have no idea
>> where to look for just the bracket and for one that would fit under
>> the headset nut.
>>
>> Can any of you offer any hints or suggestions or are these parts all
>> long since obsolete?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Steve
>
>
> Hi there Steve.
>
>Some others have also mentioned the adjustable quill stems.
>
>Here is a link to my converted mtb with the adjustable stem and drop
>bars so you can see what that stem looks like.
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=193571690&size=o
>
>In the picture the stem is almost 90 degrees from the quill. I can be
>rotated up and back so that it is almost vertical. So you have an idea
>of how much height can be gained. What is great with the adjustable
>stem i s that you can raise or lower the bars to suit the conditions
>of the road you are riding. For example On rough dirt or fire roads
>where you might want a more upright position for visibility you can
>raise the stem. Then if you want to ride fast on paved roads later you
>can lower the stem again.
>
>That is the Radical adjustable stem and it sells for about $25
>Canadian.
>
>Cheers from Peter

Peter,

Thanks for the picture of your converted Miele. It looks like you have
long arms to have the bars that much lower than the saddle.

Unfortunately I have just the opposite problem - short arms. I need to
have the bars about even with or a little higher than the saddle.

To continue the saga I stopped by my local LBS yesterday to look
through the catalogs. We started with QBP then Hawley and finally BTS?

Apparently due to the way quill stems are measured (O.D of the steerer
tube that you can't see and not the quill diameter itself) what I
really have is a 1 1/8" quill stem.

I did some measuring of the current stem and it measures as follows.
The height at the minimum insertion depth is 100mm to the top of the
quill bolt. The stem reach is 115mm at an angle of 120 degrees from
the axis of the stem (30 degrees rise from perpendicular to the stem).

With the new setup I would like to increase the max bar height to
about 25-40mm higher than it is now. In looking through all of the
catalogs there were few quill stems that were long and none were 1
1/8". Apparently 1 1/8" quill is a red-headed step child that didn't
last long before threadless emerged.

Can anyone else offer any other places to look for a long 1 1/8 "
quill stem?

If I can't find a stem I guess I will have to look at a long 1 1/8"
quill to 1 1/8" threadless adapter. Have any of you seen these that
would be tall enough to fit the above requirements? Unfortunately, I
didn't have time to look at these when I was at the store.

Thanks,

Steve

Date: 01 May 2007 22:03:55
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: Taller Stem For Older Mtn Bike - Options?

>> On Apr 23, 9:20 pm, Steve Sr. <Nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>> MTB gurus,
>>>
>>> I have a 1992 vintage Trek 950 MTB and would like to raise the stem to
>>> improve the fit (too much weight on hands). This bike is ridden
>>> mostly on dirt roads and rail trails. I do very little single track.
>>>
>>> The existing stem is adjusted all the way up to the maximum line. The
>>> current stem appears to be a 1" quill. The headset is marked Tioga -
>>> Avenger - Japan if that helps any. The bar diameter appears to be 1"
>>> as well.
>>>
>>> The first issue is whether or not 1" quill MTB stems are still
>>> available.
>>>
>>> The second issue is that the cable for the front brake goes through
>>> and uses the stem for the cable stop. Somebody should get an award for
>>> that one! So even if I find a longer stem if it doesn't have a brake
>>> cable hole I will need some kind of bracket to hold the end of the
>>> brake cable. I have seen these before on older bikes but have no idea
>>> where to look for just the bracket and for one that would fit under
>>> the headset nut.
>>>
>>> Can any of you offer any hints or suggestions or are these parts all
>>> long since obsolete?

> Sir Ridesalot <i_am_cycle_pathic@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> Some others have also mentioned the adjustable quill stems.
>> Here is a link to my converted mtb with the adjustable stem and drop
>> bars so you can see what that stem looks like.
>> http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=193571690&size=o
>> In the picture the stem is almost 90 degrees from the quill. I can be
>> rotated up and back so that it is almost vertical. So you have an idea
>> of how much height can be gained. What is great with the adjustable
>> stem i s that you can raise or lower the bars to suit the conditions
>> of the road you are riding. For example On rough dirt or fire roads
>> where you might want a more upright position for visibility you can
>> raise the stem. Then if you want to ride fast on paved roads later you
>> can lower the stem again.
>> That is the Radical adjustable stem and it sells for about $25
>> Canadian.

Steve Sr. wrote:
> Thanks for the picture of your converted Miele. It looks like you have
> long arms to have the bars that much lower than the saddle.
> Unfortunately I have just the opposite problem - short arms. I need to
> have the bars about even with or a little higher than the saddle.
> To continue the saga I stopped by my local LBS yesterday to look
> through the catalogs. We started with QBP then Hawley and finally BTS?
> Apparently due to the way quill stems are measured (O.D of the steerer
> tube that you can't see and not the quill diameter itself) what I
> really have is a 1 1/8" quill stem.
> I did some measuring of the current stem and it measures as follows.
> The height at the minimum insertion depth is 100mm to the top of the
> quill bolt. The stem reach is 115mm at an angle of 120 degrees from
> the axis of the stem (30 degrees rise from perpendicular to the stem).
> With the new setup I would like to increase the max bar height to
> about 25-40mm higher than it is now. In looking through all of the
> catalogs there were few quill stems that were long and none were 1
> 1/8". Apparently 1 1/8" quill is a red-headed step child that didn't
> last long before threadless emerged.
> Can anyone else offer any other places to look for a long 1 1/8 "
> quill stem?
> If I can't find a stem I guess I will have to look at a long 1 1/8"
> quill to 1 1/8" threadless adapter. Have any of you seen these that
> would be tall enough to fit the above requirements? Unfortunately, I
> didn't have time to look at these when I was at the store.

I am amazed some of these all-too-quixotic searches for the commonplace.

Your Trek's "1-1/8" system uses a quill that's one inch diameter, a very
standard item, adjustable models being found on new 2007 bikes probably
in that very shop! Look at some sub-$500 'hybrid' models for example.

Any competent LBS which commonly services bicycles will have these in
silver or black, under $30.

p.s. There was at one time an "evolution" type 1-1/4 system using a
1-1/8 stem - but not on a Trek 930. Evo quills are indeed rare now.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Date: 03 May 2007 21:49:14
From: Steve Sr.
Subject: Re: Taller Stem For Older Mtn Bike - Options?

On Tue, 01 May 2007 22:03:55 -0500, A Muzi <am@yellowjersey.org >
wrote:

>>> On Apr 23, 9:20 pm, Steve Sr. <Nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>> MTB gurus,
>>>>
>>>> I have a 1992 vintage Trek 950 MTB and would like to raise the stem to
>>>> improve the fit (too much weight on hands). This bike is ridden
>>>> mostly on dirt roads and rail trails. I do very little single track.
>>>>
>>>> The existing stem is adjusted all the way up to the maximum line. The
>>>> current stem appears to be a 1" quill. The headset is marked Tioga -
>>>> Avenger - Japan if that helps any. The bar diameter appears to be 1"
>>>> as well.
>>>>
>>>> The first issue is whether or not 1" quill MTB stems are still
>>>> available.
>>>>
>>>> The second issue is that the cable for the front brake goes through
>>>> and uses the stem for the cable stop. Somebody should get an award for
>>>> that one! So even if I find a longer stem if it doesn't have a brake
>>>> cable hole I will need some kind of bracket to hold the end of the
>>>> brake cable. I have seen these before on older bikes but have no idea
>>>> where to look for just the bracket and for one that would fit under
>>>> the headset nut.
>>>>
>>>> Can any of you offer any hints or suggestions or are these parts all
>>>> long since obsolete?
>
>> Sir Ridesalot <i_am_cycle_pathic@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>> Some others have also mentioned the adjustable quill stems.
>>> Here is a link to my converted mtb with the adjustable stem and drop
>>> bars so you can see what that stem looks like.
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=193571690&size=o
>>> In the picture the stem is almost 90 degrees from the quill. I can be
>>> rotated up and back so that it is almost vertical. So you have an idea
>>> of how much height can be gained. What is great with the adjustable
>>> stem i s that you can raise or lower the bars to suit the conditions
>>> of the road you are riding. For example On rough dirt or fire roads
>>> where you might want a more upright position for visibility you can
>>> raise the stem. Then if you want to ride fast on paved roads later you
>>> can lower the stem again.
>>> That is the Radical adjustable stem and it sells for about $25
>>> Canadian.
>
>Steve Sr. wrote:
>> Thanks for the picture of your converted Miele. It looks like you have
>> long arms to have the bars that much lower than the saddle.
>> Unfortunately I have just the opposite problem - short arms. I need to
>> have the bars about even with or a little higher than the saddle.
>> To continue the saga I stopped by my local LBS yesterday to look
>> through the catalogs. We started with QBP then Hawley and finally BTS?
>> Apparently due to the way quill stems are measured (O.D of the steerer
>> tube that you can't see and not the quill diameter itself) what I
>> really have is a 1 1/8" quill stem.
>> I did some measuring of the current stem and it measures as follows.
>> The height at the minimum insertion depth is 100mm to the top of the
>> quill bolt. The stem reach is 115mm at an angle of 120 degrees from
>> the axis of the stem (30 degrees rise from perpendicular to the stem).
>> With the new setup I would like to increase the max bar height to
>> about 25-40mm higher than it is now. In looking through all of the
>> catalogs there were few quill stems that were long and none were 1
>> 1/8". Apparently 1 1/8" quill is a red-headed step child that didn't
>> last long before threadless emerged.
>> Can anyone else offer any other places to look for a long 1 1/8 "
>> quill stem?
>> If I can't find a stem I guess I will have to look at a long 1 1/8"
>> quill to 1 1/8" threadless adapter. Have any of you seen these that
>> would be tall enough to fit the above requirements? Unfortunately, I
>> didn't have time to look at these when I was at the store.
>
>I am amazed some of these all-too-quixotic searches for the commonplace.
>
>Your Trek's "1-1/8" system uses a quill that's one inch diameter, a very
>standard item, adjustable models being found on new 2007 bikes probably
>in that very shop! Look at some sub-$500 'hybrid' models for example.
>
>Any competent LBS which commonly services bicycles will have these in
>silver or black, under $30.
>
>p.s. There was at one time an "evolution" type 1-1/4 system using a
>1-1/8 stem - but not on a Trek 930. Evo quills are indeed rare now.

Andrew,

I guess that we just don't have any good LBS's in this area. They all
tend to deal out of the QBP or Hawley catalogs. They would also never
stock something as old and odd as a 140mm tall quill stem. I also
looked at the Harris site and they just send you to the online QBP
catalog.

BTW, I looked at your web site and you appear to have a good supply of
vintage stuff including quite a few stems. Do you have anything in
your collection that meets my requirements? Either a long high angle
quill stem or a long 1 1/8" threadless adapter.

Thanks,

Steve

Date: 03 May 2007 21:13:09
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: Taller Stem For Older Mtn Bike - Options?

>>>> Steve Sr. <Nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>> I have a 1992 vintage Trek 950 MTB and would like to raise the stem to
>>>>> improve the fit (too much weight on hands). This bike is ridden
>>>>> mostly on dirt roads and rail trails. I do very little single track.
-snip-
Steve Sr. <Nos...@nospam.com > wrote:
> Andrew,
-snip-
Do you have anything in
> your collection that meets my requirements? Either a long high angle
> quill stem or a long 1 1/8" threadless adapter.

Of course, CrMo OS quill 120~190mm height, $19.95. Write or call:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/ordinfo.html

your email address isn't shown
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Date: 02 May 2007 21:41:54
From: Steve Sr.
Subject: Re: Taller Stem For Older Mtn Bike - Options?

Date: 03 May 2007 02:22:16
From: Steve
Subject: Re: Taller Stem For Older Mtn Bike - Options?

Steve Sr. wrote:
> On Tue, 01 May 2007 22:03:55 -0500, A Muzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
> wrote:
>
>>>> On Apr 23, 9:20 pm, Steve Sr. <Nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>> MTB gurus,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a 1992 vintage Trek 950 MTB and would like to raise the stem to
>>>>> improve the fit (too much weight on hands). This bike is ridden
>>>>> mostly on dirt roads and rail trails. I do very little single track.
>>>>>
>>>>> The existing stem is adjusted all the way up to the maximum line. The
>>>>> current stem appears to be a 1" quill. The headset is marked Tioga -
>>>>> Avenger - Japan if that helps any. The bar diameter appears to be 1"
>>>>> as well.
>>>>
>> Any competent LBS which commonly services bicycles will have these in
>> silver or black, under $30.
>>
>> p.s. There was at one time an "evolution" type 1-1/4 system using a
>> 1-1/8 stem - but not on a Trek 930. Evo quills are indeed rare now.
>
>
>
>
>
> Steve

you could also try a nitto "dirt drop" stem, long quill and a decent rise,
it will work with flat bars with one shim, using one on my ss with north
road bars and a short frame.
Steve

Date: 05 May 2007 22:28:53
From: Steve Sr.
Subject: Re: Taller Stem For Older Mtn Bike - Options?

On Thu, 03 May 2007 02:22:16 GMT, Steve <sfswanson@operamail.com >
wrote:

>Steve Sr. wrote:
>> On Tue, 01 May 2007 22:03:55 -0500, A Muzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>>> On Apr 23, 9:20 pm, Steve Sr. <Nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>> MTB gurus,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a 1992 vintage Trek 950 MTB and would like to raise the stem to
>>>>>> improve the fit (too much weight on hands). This bike is ridden
>>>>>> mostly on dirt roads and rail trails. I do very little single track.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The existing stem is adjusted all the way up to the maximum line. The
>>>>>> current stem appears to be a 1" quill. The headset is marked Tioga -
>>>>>> Avenger - Japan if that helps any. The bar diameter appears to be 1"
>>>>>> as well.
>>>>>
>>> Any competent LBS which commonly services bicycles will have these in
>>> silver or black, under $30.
>>>
>>> p.s. There was at one time an "evolution" type 1-1/4 system using a
>>> 1-1/8 stem - but not on a Trek 930. Evo quills are indeed rare now.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve
>
>you could also try a nitto "dirt drop" stem, long quill and a decent rise,
>it will work with flat bars with one shim, using one on my ss with north
>road bars and a short frame.
>Steve

Steve,

Do you have any suggestion on where I might find information on these
stems? My internet search returned nothing useful except that these
may be obsolete and therfore unobtanable.

Thanks,

Steve

Date: 06 May 2007 12:28:53
From: Steve
Subject: Re: Taller Stem For Older Mtn Bike - Options?

Steve Sr. wrote:
> On Thu, 03 May 2007 02:22:16 GMT, Steve <sfswanson@operamail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Steve Sr. wrote:
>>> On Tue, 01 May 2007 22:03:55 -0500, A Muzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 23, 9:20 pm, Steve Sr. <Nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> MTB gurus,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a 1992 vintage Trek 950 MTB and would like to raise the stem to
>>>>>>> improve the fit (too much weight on hands). This bike is ridden
>>>>>>> mostly on dirt roads and rail trails. I do very little single track.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The existing stem is adjusted all the way up to the maximum line. The
>>>>>>> current stem appears to be a 1" quill. The headset is marked Tioga -
>>>>>>> Avenger - Japan if that helps any. The bar diameter appears to be 1"
>>>>>>> as well.
>>>> Any competent LBS which commonly services bicycles will have these in
>>>> silver or black, under $30.
>>>>
>>>> p.s. There was at one time an "evolution" type 1-1/4 system using a
>>>> 1-1/8 stem - but not on a Trek 930. Evo quills are indeed rare now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve
>> you could also try a nitto "dirt drop" stem, long quill and a decent rise,
>> it will work with flat bars with one shim, using one on my ss with north
>> road bars and a short frame.
>> Steve
>
> Steve,
>
> Do you have any suggestion on where I might find information on these
> stems? My internet search returned nothing useful except that these
> may be obsolete and therfore unobtanable.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
harris cyclery, rivendell bikes any LBS who buys from QBP
Nitto is far from Obsolete
Steve

Date: 06 May 2007 21:55:06
From: Steve Sr.
Subject: Re: Taller Stem For Older Mtn Bike - Options?

On Sun, 06 May 2007 12:28:53 GMT, Steve <sfswanson@operamail.com >
wrote:

>Steve Sr. wrote:
>> On Thu, 03 May 2007 02:22:16 GMT, Steve <sfswanson@operamail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Steve Sr. wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 01 May 2007 22:03:55 -0500, A Muzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 9:20 pm, Steve Sr. <Nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> MTB gurus,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a 1992 vintage Trek 950 MTB and would like to raise the stem to
>>>>>>>> improve the fit (too much weight on hands). This bike is ridden
>>>>>>>> mostly on dirt roads and rail trails. I do very little single track.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The existing stem is adjusted all the way up to the maximum line. The
>>>>>>>> current stem appears to be a 1" quill. The headset is marked Tioga -
>>>>>>>> Avenger - Japan if that helps any. The bar diameter appears to be 1"
>>>>>>>> as well.
>>>>> Any competent LBS which commonly services bicycles will have these in
>>>>> silver or black, under $30.
>>>>>
>>>>> p.s. There was at one time an "evolution" type 1-1/4 system using a
>>>>> 1-1/8 stem - but not on a Trek 930. Evo quills are indeed rare now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>> you could also try a nitto "dirt drop" stem, long quill and a decent rise,
>>> it will work with flat bars with one shim, using one on my ss with north
>>> road bars and a short frame.
>>> Steve
>>
>> Steve,
>>
>> Do you have any suggestion on where I might find information on these
>> stems? My internet search returned nothing useful except that these
>> may be obsolete and therfore unobtanable.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>
>>
>harris cyclery, rivendell bikes any LBS who buys from QBP
>Nitto is far from Obsolete
>Steve

Steve,

Sorry, if I seem a little dense but I have tried all of these places
web sites and can find no information on any of the "dirt drop" stems.
The only Nitto stuff shown appears to be the Technomic and other road
stems. I have also been to 2 LBSs in person and looked in the QBP
catalog. I saw nothing resembling the "dirt drop" stem in the current
QBP catalog.

I did run across one picture of a dirt drop stem which looks promising
if the stem were still available. Do you have any further places to
look?

Thanks,

Steve

Date: 06 May 2007 22:20:10
From: Steve
Subject: Re: Taller Stem For Older Mtn Bike - Options?

Steve Sr. wrote:
> On Sun, 06 May 2007 12:28:53 GMT, Steve <sfswanson@operamail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Steve Sr. wrote:
>>> On Thu, 03 May 2007 02:22:16 GMT, Steve <sfswanson@operamail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Steve Sr. wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 01 May 2007 22:03:55 -0500, A Muzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 9:20 pm, Steve Sr. <Nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> MTB gurus,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
> Steve,
>
> Sorry, if I seem a little dense but I have tried all of these places
> web sites and can find no information on any of the "dirt drop" stems.
> The only Nitto stuff shown appears to be the Technomic and other road
> stems. I have also been to 2 LBSs in person and looked in the QBP
> catalog. I saw nothing resembling the "dirt drop" stem in the current
> QBP catalog.
>
> I did run across one picture of a dirt drop stem which looks promising
> if the stem were still available. Do you have any further places to
> look?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve

Steve here is link to rivendell catalog
http://www.rivbike.com/webalog/handlebars_stems_tape/
the dirt drop is not specifically for MTB but since it is forged
al alloy i certainly have no problem with str
the bar on same page grant calls "albatross bars" are the old fashioned
north road bars i am using with the ends clipped about an inch and a
half. I also have it mounted upside down
Steve

Date: 08 May 2007 20:24:01
From: Steve Sr.
Subject: Re: Taller Stem For Older Mtn Bike - Options?

On Sun, 06 May 2007 22:20:10 -0400, Steve <sfswanson@operamail.com >
wrote:

>Steve Sr. wrote:
>> On Sun, 06 May 2007 12:28:53 GMT, Steve <sfswanson@operamail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Steve Sr. wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 03 May 2007 02:22:16 GMT, Steve <sfswanson@operamail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Steve Sr. wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 01 May 2007 22:03:55 -0500, A Muzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 23, 9:20 pm, Steve Sr. <Nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> MTB gurus,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>> Steve,
>>
>> Sorry, if I seem a little dense but I have tried all of these places
>> web sites and can find no information on any of the "dirt drop" stems.
>> The only Nitto stuff shown appears to be the Technomic and other road
>> stems. I have also been to 2 LBSs in person and looked in the QBP
>> catalog. I saw nothing resembling the "dirt drop" stem in the current
>> QBP catalog.
>>
>> I did run across one picture of a dirt drop stem which looks promising
>> if the stem were still available. Do you have any further places to
>> look?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Steve
>
>Steve here is link to rivendell catalog
>http://www.rivbike.com/webalog/handlebars_stems_tape/
>the dirt drop is not specifically for MTB but since it is forged
>al alloy i certainly have no problem with str
>the bar on same page grant calls "albatross bars" are the old fashioned
>north road bars i am using with the ends clipped about an inch and a
>half. I also have it mounted upside down
>Steve

Steve,

Thanks for the direct link. It does indeed show the "dirt drop" stem
as well as the "periscopa" which is similar. Alas, the quill diameter
is wrong. Both of these are intended for 1" O.D. steerer tubes while
mine is 1 1/8" O.D. which requires a 1" diameter quill hence the
confusion.

It looks like I am back to square zero again.

Thanks,

Steve

Date: 03 May 2007 04:36:19
From: Darryl C
Subject: Re: Taller Stem For Older Mtn Bike - Options?

In article <sHb_h.7054$rO7.2728@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net >,
Steve <sfswanson@operamail.com > wrote:

> Steve Sr. wrote:
> > On Tue, 01 May 2007 22:03:55 -0500, A Muzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>>> On Apr 23, 9:20 pm, Steve Sr. <Nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >>>>> MTB gurus,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have a 1992 vintage Trek 950 MTB and would like to raise the stem to
> >>>>> improve the fit (too much weight on hands). This bike is ridden
> >>>>> mostly on dirt roads and rail trails. I do very little single track.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The existing stem is adjusted all the way up to the maximum line. The
> >>>>> current stem appears to be a 1" quill. The headset is marked Tioga -
> >>>>> Avenger - Japan if that helps any. The bar diameter appears to be 1"
> >>>>> as well.
> >>>>
> >> Any competent LBS which commonly services bicycles will have these in
> >> silver or black, under $30.
> >>
> >> p.s. There was at one time an "evolution" type 1-1/4 system using a
> >> 1-1/8 stem - but not on a Trek 930. Evo quills are indeed rare now.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Steve
>
> you could also try a nitto "dirt drop" stem, long quill and a decent rise,
> it will work with flat bars with one shim, using one on my ss with north
> road bars and a short frame.
> Steve

Naturally, Sheldon Brown has an article of interest:

<http://sheldonbrown.com/handsup.html >

You can but a replacement headset for cheap:
<http://www.novacycles.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1461 >

and probably find a long quill to suit your needs:
<http://www.firstflightbikes.com/frames/VintPart.htm >

cheers,
Darryl

Date: 25 Apr 2007 15:07:57
From: Camilo
Subject: Re: Taller Stem For Older Mtn Bike - Options?

On Apr 24, 7:15 am, landotter <landot...@gmail.com > wrote:

> Stem raisers work, but are UGLY.
>
> Treat yourself to a handsome Nitto Periscopa stem ($20-30) and a cable
> hanger($3).http://tinyurl.com/2rsxkv

Gotta agree with landotter here. I have a Zoom adjustable 1" quill
stem on my old, too small road bike and it is indeed butt ugly. I
bought it intending to mess with it and then replace with a qulll stem
of the appropriate size. I rode that bike yesterday and it reminded
me how ugly it is on a road bike. Frankly, I think it would look OK
on a mountain bike though.

Date: 24 Apr 2007 21:28:57
From: Steve Sr.
Subject: Re: Taller Stem For Older Mtn Bike - Options?

On Mon, 23 Apr 2007 21:20:03 -0400, Steve Sr. <Nospam@nospam.com >
wrote:

>MTB gurus,
>
>I have a 1992 vintage Trek 950 MTB and would like to raise the stem to
>improve the fit (too much weight on hands). This bike is ridden
>mostly on dirt roads and rail trails. I do very little single track.
>
>The existing stem is adjusted all the way up to the maximum line. The
>current stem appears to be a 1" quill. The headset is marked Tioga -
>Avenger - Japan if that helps any. The bar diameter appears to be 1"
>as well.
>
>The first issue is whether or not 1" quill MTB stems are still
>available.
>
>The second issue is that the cable for the front brake goes through
>and uses the stem for the cable stop. Somebody should get an award for
>that one! So even if I find a longer stem if it doesn't have a brake
>cable hole I will need some kind of bracket to hold the end of the
>brake cable. I have seen these before on older bikes but have no idea
>where to look for just the bracket and for one that would fit under
>the headset nut.
>
>Can any of you offer any hints or suggestions or are these parts all
>long since obsolete?
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Steve

Thanks for everyone's suggestions and insight. It looks like its time
to go to my local REI and peruse the QBP catalog!

I looked at the stem raisers and it appears that these will raise the
stem several inches minimum which is more than I need. Therefore it
looks like I will be looking for a new longer stem and brake cable
hanger. I don't see any reason to change the brake setup since it
works fine as-is. The existing cable housing should even be long
enough once it is removed from the existing stem.

Best regards,

Steve

Date: 24 Apr 2007 11:17:21
From: Sir Ridesalot
Subject: Re: Taller Stem For Older Mtn Bike - Options?

Date: 24 Apr 2007 08:15:14
From: landotter
Subject: Re: Taller Stem For Older Mtn Bike - Options?

On Apr 23, 8:20 pm, Steve Sr. <Nos...@nospam.com > wrote:
> MTB gurus,
>
> I have a 1992 vintage Trek 950 MTB and would like to raise the stem to
> improve the fit (too much weight on hands). This bike is ridden
> mostly on dirt roads and rail trails. I do very little single track.
>
> The existing stem is adjusted all the way up to the maximum line. The
> current stem appears to be a 1" quill. The headset is marked Tioga -
> Avenger - Japan if that helps any. The bar diameter appears to be 1"
> as well.
[snip]
>
> Can any of you offer any hints or suggestions or are these parts all
> long since obsolete?
>

Stem raisers work, but are UGLY.

Treat yourself to a handsome Nitto Periscopa stem ($20-30) and a cable
hanger($3).
http://tinyurl.com/2rsxkv

Date: 24 Apr 2007 05:46:43
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo
Subject: Re: Taller Stem For Older Mtn Bike - Options?

On Apr 23, 7:20 pm, Steve Sr. <Nos...@nospam.com > wrote:
> MTB gurus,
>
> I have a 1992 vintage Trek 950 MTB and would like to raise the stem to
> improve the fit (too much weight on hands). This bike is ridden
> mostly on dirt roads and rail trails. I do very little single track.
>
> The existing stem is adjusted all the way up to the maximum line. The
> current stem appears to be a 1" quill. The headset is marked Tioga -
> Avenger - Japan if that helps any. The bar diameter appears to be 1"
> as well.
>
> The first issue is whether or not 1" quill MTB stems are still
> available.

yes, from any bike shop that uses Quality Bike Parts, a distributor.
>
> The second issue is that the cable for the front brake goes through
> and uses the stem for the cable stop. Somebody should get an award for
> that one! So even if I find a longer stem if it doesn't have a brake
> cable hole I will need some kind of bracket to hold the end of the
> brake cable. I have seen these before on older bikes but have no idea
> where to look for just the bracket and for one that would fit under
> the headset nut.

Yes- either cable stops that live in the headset stack or bolt onto
the stem itself.
>
> Can any of you offer any hints or suggestions or are these parts all
> long since obsolete?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve

Date: 23 Apr 2007 21:07:55
From: Sir Ridesalot
Subject: Re: Taller Stem For Older Mtn Bike - Options?

On Apr 23, 9:20 pm, Steve Sr. <Nos...@nospam.com > wrote:
> MTB gurus,
>
> I have a 1992 vintage Trek 950 MTB and would like to raise the stem to
> improve the fit (too much weight on hands). This bike is ridden
> mostly on dirt roads and rail trails. I do very little single track.
>
> The existing stem is adjusted all the way up to the maximum line. The
> current stem appears to be a 1" quill. The headset is marked Tioga -
> Avenger - Japan if that helps any. The bar diameter appears to be 1"
> as well.
>
> The first issue is whether or not 1" quill MTB stems are still
> available.
>
> The second issue is that the cable for the front brake goes through
> and uses the stem for the cable stop. Somebody should get an award for
> that one! So even if I find a longer stem if it doesn't have a brake
> cable hole I will need some kind of bracket to hold the end of the
> brake cable. I have seen these before on older bikes but have no idea
> where to look for just the bracket and for one that would fit under
> the headset nut.
>
> Can any of you offer any hints or suggestions or are these parts all
> long since obsolete?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve

Hi Steve.

I used a Radical adjustable stem to raise the bars on my old hard-tail
Miele mtb when I converted it to drop bars for *EXACTLY* the riding
surfaces you describe as well as for touring. Most any bike shop will
have or can get you an adjustable stem they should aalso have or be
able to get you a front cable hanger. Bear in mind that the adjustable
stem does shorten the reach to the bars slightly as it is raised. With
the drop bars I can use Campy Ergos or Shimano Brifters and the
variety of hand positions is sweet on longer rides.

I did go to V-brakes at the time but have since reverted to cantlevers
as I like them better and I can use them with drop bar brake levers
with out any add on gizmos. Oops, I almost forgot - if you decide to
go with V-brakes as some one suggested you will need to get V-brake
compatible upright bar brake levers too. Cantilever brake levers are
not compatible with V-brakes.

If you can not find front cable braket hanger give me a shout and I'll
send you one.

Cheers from Peter

Date: 23 Apr 2007 22:41:59
From: A Muzi
Subject: Re: Taller Stem For Older Mtn Bike - Options?

Steve Sr. wrote:
> I have a 1992 vintage Trek 950 MTB and would like to raise the stem to
> improve the fit (too much weight on hands). This bike is ridden
> mostly on dirt roads and rail trails. I do very little single track.
>
> The existing stem is adjusted all the way up to the maximum line. The
> current stem appears to be a 1" quill. The headset is marked Tioga -
> Avenger - Japan if that helps any. The bar diameter appears to be 1"
> as well.
>
> The first issue is whether or not 1" quill MTB stems are still
> available.
>
> The second issue is that the cable for the front brake goes through
> and uses the stem for the cable stop. Somebody should get an award for
> that one! So even if I find a longer stem if it doesn't have a brake
> cable hole I will need some kind of bracket to hold the end of the
> brake cable. I have seen these before on older bikes but have no idea
> where to look for just the bracket and for one that would fit under
> the headset nut.
>
> Can any of you offer any hints or suggestions or are these parts all
> long since obsolete?

O/S quill stems are readily available at any competent LBS which
commonly services bicycles, $20 to $30 including extra-tall models.

For the brake cable, a fork crown mount cable hanger.

Or possibly consider a switch to a linear ("V") type lever and front
brake- they were developed expressly to avoid cable routing issues. OTOH
they have much faster pad & rim wear rates so there are tradeoffs involved.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Date: 23 Apr 2007 19:56:37
From: Camilo
Subject: Re: Taller Stem For Older Mtn Bike - Options?

On Apr 23, 5:20 pm, Steve Sr. <Nos...@nospam.com > wrote:
> MTB gurus,
>
> I have a 1992 vintage Trek 950 MTB and would like to raise the stem to
> improve the fit (too much weight on hands). This bike is ridden
> mostly on dirt roads and rail trails. I do very little single track.
>
> The existing stem is adjusted all the way up to the maximum line. The
> current stem appears to be a 1" quill. The headset is marked Tioga -
> Avenger - Japan if that helps any. The bar diameter appears to be 1"
> as well.
>
> The first issue is whether or not 1" quill MTB stems are still
> available.

Yes, a 1" quill stem is a 1" quill stem. Just find one that is the
size and look that you want.

If you want higher, you can get an extender for your current stem.

Or you can buy a extra long, adjustable stem. I have a "Zoom". It
goes much higher before it hits the minimum insertion line than my old
quill stem. Also, the angle of rise isa djustable, so I can raise it
even more with that. I bought mine at my LBS last summer for around
$30 or so.

Another way you could go is to get a 1" - 1 1/8" adapter and then use
any 1 1/8" stem you want. There are of course many lengths, rises,
and adjustable ones of those.

> The second issue is that the cable for the front brake goes through
> and uses the stem for the cable stop. Somebody should get an award for
> that one! So even if I find a longer stem if it doesn't have a brake
> cable hole I will need some kind of bracket to hold the end of the
> brake cable. I have seen these before on older bikes but have no idea
> where to look for just the bracket and for one that would fit under
> the headset nut.

My Kona MTB had the same sort of set up. I replaced the quill stem
last year, and I believe I had to use a cable stop that inserts on the
head set, I believe just under the lock nut or whatever it's called.
This is the conventional way of doing it, so I don't believe you'll
have any trouble finding one or having someone show you how it's done
if you can't figure it out. If I recall, the main 'issue' was that I
had to replace the cable because the new set up required an inch or so
additional length.

Date: 24 Apr 2007 01:50:14
From: Rameni Noodlium
Subject: Re: Taller Stem For Older Mtn Bike - Options?

"Steve Sr." <Nospam@nospam.com > wrote in message
news:iilq23ll2ulhs7mt7quv64bm7117o01h6l@4ax.com...
> MTB gurus,
>
> I have a 1992 vintage Trek 950 MTB and would like to raise the stem to
> improve the fit (too much weight on hands). This bike is ridden
> mostly on dirt roads and rail trails. I do very little single track.
>
> The existing stem is adjusted all the way up to the maximum line. The
> current stem appears to be a 1" quill. The headset is marked Tioga -
> Avenger - Japan if that helps any. The bar diameter appears to be 1"
> as well.
>
> The first issue is whether or not 1" quill MTB stems are still
> available.
>
> The second issue is that the cable for the front brake goes through
> and uses the stem for the cable stop. Somebody should get an award for
> that one! So even if I find a longer stem if it doesn't have a brake
> cable hole I will need some kind of bracket to hold the end of the
> brake cable. I have seen these before on older bikes but have no idea
> where to look for just the bracket and for one that would fit under
> the headset nut.
>
> Can any of you offer any hints or suggestions or are these parts all
> long since obsolete?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve

You may need to go threadless stem. Get a 1" threadless stem adaptor
(http://tinyurl.com/2u7cdc - make sure you get 1" adaptor, Nashbar seems to
be out of it at the moment), get a front brake cable stop
(http://tinyurl.com/3ca7hr), and find a high-rise threadless stem. You can
even get a stem riser for it to make it even taller:
http://tinyurl.com/398ul5.

1992 Trek 950 is a great biike, Wisconsin-built lugged frame and all.

Date: 23 Apr 2007 19:40:43
From: James Fitch
Subject: Re: Taller Stem For Older Mtn Bike - Options?

"Rameni Noodlium" <troll@trollworks.net > wrote in message
news:qndXh.3305$Ut6.698@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
> "Steve Sr." <Nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:iilq23ll2ulhs7mt7quv64bm7117o01h6l@4ax.com...
>> MTB gurus,
>>
>> I have a 1992 vintage Trek 950 MTB and would like to raise the stem to
>> improve the fit (too much weight on hands). This bike is ridden
>> mostly on dirt roads and rail trails. I do very little single track.
>>
>> The existing stem is adjusted all the way up to the maximum line. The
>> current stem appears to be a 1" quill. The headset is marked Tioga -
>> Avenger - Japan if that helps any. The bar diameter appears to be 1"
>> as well.
>>
>> The first issue is whether or not 1" quill MTB stems are still
>> available.
>>
>> The second issue is that the cable for the front brake goes through
>> and uses the stem for the cable stop. Somebody should get an award for
>> that one! So even if I find a longer stem if it doesn't have a brake
>> cable hole I will need some kind of bracket to hold the end of the
>> brake cable. I have seen these before on older bikes but have no idea
>> where to look for just the bracket and for one that would fit under
>> the headset nut.
>>
>> Can any of you offer any hints or suggestions or are these parts all
>> long since obsolete?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Steve
>
>
> You may need to go threadless stem. Get a 1" threadless stem adaptor
> (http://tinyurl.com/2u7cdc - make sure you get 1" adaptor, Nashbar seems
> to be out of it at the moment), get a front brake cable stop
> (http://tinyurl.com/3ca7hr), and find a high-rise threadless stem. You
> can even get a stem riser for it to make it even taller:
> http://tinyurl.com/398ul5.
>
> 1992 Trek 950 is a great biike, Wisconsin-built lugged frame and all.
>

No you don't. All you need is a quill stem stem riser -- $20 at Harris
Cyclery http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/stems/index.html#raisers. Use the
same stem you have.

-Jim

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Date: 23 Apr 2007 22:25:39
From: Kevin
Subject: Re: Taller Stem For Older Mtn Bike - Options?

James Fitch wrote:
> "Rameni Noodlium" <troll@trollworks.net> wrote in message
> news:qndXh.3305$Ut6.698@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
>>"Steve Sr." <Nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>news:iilq23ll2ulhs7mt7quv64bm7117o01h6l@4ax.com...
>>
>>>MTB gurus,
>>>
>>>I have a 1992 vintage Trek 950 MTB and would like to raise the stem to
>>>improve the fit (too much weight on hands). This bike is ridden
>>>mostly on dirt roads and rail trails. I do very little single track.
>>>
>
>
> No you don't. All you need is a quill stem stem riser -- $20 at Harris
> Cyclery http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/stems/index.html#raisers. Use the
> same stem you have.
>
> -Jim

Work great~!

You might also need new cables, housing and inner.

--
FWIW. The reply to address is good, but I don't
check it unless I am expecting something. SOOOO,
don't use it if you expect a reply anytime soon.

Date: 23 Apr 2007 18:29:43
From: Victor Kan
Subject: Re: Taller Stem For Older Mtn Bike - Options?

> Can any of you offer any hints or suggestions or are these parts all
> long since obsolete?

I was in the same boat when I did a fixie conversion on an old
Bridgetstone MB-6 and gave up looking for something to help re-use the
existing front cantilever brake

I put a V-brake there with a "Travel Agent" to double the cable pull
from my road lever. Once setup (which can be a bear), it works great.