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Date: 12 Sep 2007 11:05:31
From: Paul Berg
Subject: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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~
A Portland bicyclist was thrilled to encounter a skunk on the
Springwater Corridor Trail, on Monday night as the sun was going down.
"At first I thought it was a little black and white kitten" said the
bicyclist, who preferred to remain anonymous, "I have seen snakes and
turtles and possums and raccoons and heron and eagles and even a deer,
but I did not know we had skunks living in our city. And I had no idea
they were so cute!" The bicyclist stopped to watch the skunk for a
moment and then bicycled home.
~
Poster's comment: The bicyclist must have never biked by City Hall, for
there are a good number of skunks there.
~
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Date: 23 Sep 2007 19:56:37
From: hal lillywhite
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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Tom Keats wrote:
> Porupines like to gnaw on canoe paddles 'cuz of the
> sweat-salt embedded in 'em.
They'll gnaw on anything that tastes remotely like salt. Even worse
are marmots and other critters dwelling at high altitude. Over the
centuries, precipitation has washed the salt downhill so pretty much
anything that lives at altitude will be salt deficient.
Some climbers have had boots chewed to shreds. They hike in, then
change to their climbing boots for the climb, stashing the hiking
boots for when they return. If they don't hang the boots out of reach
they may have to walk out in their climbing footwear.
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Date: 23 Sep 2007 20:28:05
From: Zoot Katz
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 19:56:37 -0700, hal lillywhite
<hlillywh@juno.com > wrote:
>
>Tom Keats wrote:
>
>> Porupines like to gnaw on canoe paddles 'cuz of the
>> sweat-salt embedded in 'em.
>
>They'll gnaw on anything that tastes remotely like salt. Even worse
>are marmots and other critters dwelling at high altitude. Over the
>centuries, precipitation has washed the salt downhill so pretty much
>anything that lives at altitude will be salt deficient.
>
>Some climbers have had boots chewed to shreds. They hike in, then
>change to their climbing boots for the climb, stashing the hiking
>boots for when they return. If they don't hang the boots out of reach
>they may have to walk out in their climbing footwear.
I had cycling gloves eaten by some nocturnal critter and continued
the tour without gloves. One layer of cotton handle bar tape only.
After ten days riding mostly chip sealed shoulders it took a few
months for my ring-finger and pinky to "wake-up". Several years later
they still weren't right and got painful when cold. I have permanent
nerve damage as a momento of that tour.
Had I known then what I know now I'd have wrapped the handle bar with
a spare pair of socks.
--
zk
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Date: 24 Sep 2007 04:24:52
From: Lobby Dosser
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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Zoot Katz <zootkatz@operamail.com > wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 19:56:37 -0700, hal lillywhite
> <hlillywh@juno.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Tom Keats wrote:
>>
>>> Porupines like to gnaw on canoe paddles 'cuz of the
>>> sweat-salt embedded in 'em.
>>
>>They'll gnaw on anything that tastes remotely like salt. Even worse
>>are marmots and other critters dwelling at high altitude. Over the
>>centuries, precipitation has washed the salt downhill so pretty much
>>anything that lives at altitude will be salt deficient.
>>
>>Some climbers have had boots chewed to shreds. They hike in, then
>>change to their climbing boots for the climb, stashing the hiking
>>boots for when they return. If they don't hang the boots out of reach
>>they may have to walk out in their climbing footwear.
>
> I had cycling gloves eaten by some nocturnal critter and continued
> the tour without gloves. One layer of cotton handle bar tape only.
>
> After ten days riding mostly chip sealed shoulders it took a few
> months for my ring-finger and pinky to "wake-up". Several years later
> they still weren't right and got painful when cold. I have permanent
> nerve damage as a momento of that tour.
>
> Had I known then what I know now I'd have wrapped the handle bar with
> a spare pair of socks.
Had I known what I know now, I'd have salted the dog food!
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Date: 23 Sep 2007 19:47:03
From:
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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Tom Keats wrote:
> In article <1190520256.828724.326570@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> llanalott@yahoo.com writes:
>
> >> They're not quite as frenetic as ferrets or otters,
> >> but just as willful. Once you become acquainted with
> >> 'em and they understand you're no threat to 'em, they
> >> won't let 'er rip on ya. In fact it's dead easy to
> >> get 'em to eat outa yer hand.
> >
> > They will also magically emerge from the rocks gleefully accept the
> > fish you 'caught for them' and disappear just as fast back into the
> > rocks. And magically pop out for another fish at a different spot.
>
> I guess that's partly what wicker kreels are for.
Yea I believe that would be what I've heard, also believe I've heard
that when you soak them the water will evaporate and keep the fish
cool.
> I've sorta had that happen to me, too. Only it was a marten
> or a fisher -- some sort of ferret-like critter, anyways.
Slender furry fish thieves.
> Porupines like to gnaw on canoe paddles 'cuz of the
> sweat-salt embedded in 'em.
Or squezels as I believe they are called in cambodia.
> I recall, while living in more bucolic surroundings, mice
> enjoying my dog's MilkBones within the secure confines of
> my gumboots in the middle of the night. I'd have to pour
> the crumbs (and mouse-made chocolate sprinkles) out in
> the morning.
Hmmm sprinkles.
> Do we cohabitate with/alongside Nature, or simply habitate
> and cooperate as an integral part of it?
>
We had racoons and skunks under the porch and snakes reproduce yearly
from within the sprinkler
system.
I think a lot of both.
> cheers,
> Tom
>
> --
> Nothing is safe from me.
> I'm really at:
> tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca
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Date: 22 Sep 2007 23:33:32
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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In article <XNednU_VKdwz5nPbnZ2dnUVZ_h7inZ2d@comcast.com >,
Peter Cole <peter_cole@comcast.net > writes:
> Tom Keats wrote:
>> In article <1189651658.349845.296490@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
>> frkrygow@gmail.com writes:
>>> On Sep 12, 8:58 pm, "David L. Johnson" <david.john...@lehigh.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Paul Berg wrote:
>>>>> Poster's comment: The bicyclist must have never biked by City Hall, for
>>>>> there are a good number of skunks there.
>>>> Apparently the poster knew very little at all about skunks, or he/she
>>>> would have done anything but stop and watch.
>>> I've had two VERY close encounters with skunks.
>>
>> I've had many.
>>
>> They're very sociable, and they enjoy the company
>> of humans who don't freak them out or startle them,
>> or run them over with cars.
>
> Skunks are frequent visitors to our urban (Boston) yard. On a couple of
> occasions I've seen our cat ambling along, side-by-side, with one (he's
> a very sociable cat). He's never been sprayed.
They enjoy and appreciate a li'l rapportoire.
They also seem to be very itinerate, with their
own circuits within which they range. So they
might be here for a while, then gone, and then
back again at some indeterminable time.
I've experienced hard times, myself. Enough
to recognize and compare the same implusions
in desperate humans as in crows, skunks, racoons
and other people.
The only thing that separates humans from Nature
is money.
cheers,
Tom
--
Nothing is safe from me.
I'm really at:
tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca
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Date: 22 Sep 2007 22:26:18
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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In article <1190520256.828724.326570@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com >,
llanalott@yahoo.com writes:
>> They're not quite as frenetic as ferrets or otters,
>> but just as willful. Once you become acquainted with
>> 'em and they understand you're no threat to 'em, they
>> won't let 'er rip on ya. In fact it's dead easy to
>> get 'em to eat outa yer hand.
>
> They will also magically emerge from the rocks gleefully accept the
> fish you 'caught for them' and disappear just as fast back into the
> rocks. And magically pop out for another fish at a different spot.
I guess that's partly what wicker kreels are for.
I've sorta had that happen to me, too. Only it was a marten
or a fisher -- some sort of ferret-like critter, anyways.
Porupines like to gnaw on canoe paddles 'cuz of the
sweat-salt embedded in 'em.
I recall, while living in more bucolic surroundings, mice
enjoying my dog's MilkBones within the secure confines of
my gumboots in the middle of the night. I'd have to pour
the crumbs (and mouse-made chocolate sprinkles) out in
the morning.
Do we cohabitate with/alongside Nature, or simply habitate
and cooperate as an integral part of it?
cheers,
Tom
--
Nothing is safe from me.
I'm really at:
tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca
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Date: 22 Sep 2007 21:04:16
From:
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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Tom Keats wrote:
> In article <1189651658.349845.296490@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
> frkrygow@gmail.com writes:
> > On Sep 12, 8:58 pm, "David L. Johnson" <david.john...@lehigh.edu>
> > wrote:
> >> Paul Berg wrote:
> >> > Poster's comment: The bicyclist must have never biked by City Hall, for
> >> > there are a good number of skunks there.
> >>
> >> Apparently the poster knew very little at all about skunks, or he/she
> >> would have done anything but stop and watch.
> >
> > I've had two VERY close encounters with skunks.
>
> I've had many.
>
> They're very sociable, and they enjoy the company
> of humans who don't freak them out or startle them,
> or run them over with cars.
>
> They're not quite as frenetic as ferrets or otters,
> but just as willful. Once you become acquainted with
> 'em and they understand you're no threat to 'em, they
> won't let 'er rip on ya. In fact it's dead easy to
> get 'em to eat outa yer hand.
They will also magically emerge from the rocks gleefully accept the
fish you 'caught for them' and disappear just as fast back into the
rocks. And magically pop out for another fish at a different spot.
> Just don't let them get their claws on ya.
>
> If you befriend a pregnant skunkette, eventually she's
> just gotta drop by and show off her offspring to you,
> who'll follow behing Mom like boxcars behind a locomotive.
> Don't touch them -- just admire and approve of them and
> Mom, and give 'em your positive vibes from a respectful
> distance. They'll give you their positive vibes too. As
> long as you don't hassle them. Skunks are very much like
> humans. I guess that's why they're attracted to us.
> That, and our garbage.
>
>
> cheers,
cool
I bring you redneck kittens:
http://officespam.chattablogs.com/archives/redneck-kittens-13-thumb.jpg
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Date: 17 Sep 2007 08:00:04
From: hal lillywhite
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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Peter Cole wrote:
> Skunks are frequent visitors to our urban (Boston) yard. On a couple of
> occasions I've seen our cat ambling along, side-by-side, with one (he's
> a very sociable cat). He's never been sprayed.
Of course if the cat were to threaten the skunk said cat might need
more than its standard bath. Back on the farm it seemed every dog we
had managed to have at least one encounter with a skunk and come back
with the olfactory evidence.
The worst case of this I ever heard of was our neighbors who got a
couple of chichuachuas and made a little doggie door so they could
enter and leave the house at will. One night one of those dogs
tangled with a skunk, then went in and rolled all over the living room
floor trying to get the stuff off. And that was the night after a
brand new white carpet was installed in that living room. I don't
know what the did about it but I'm sure that dog was in the doghouse.
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Date: 17 Sep 2007 22:04:26
From: Lobby Dosser
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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hal lillywhite <hlillywh@juno.com > wrote:
> The worst case of this I ever heard of was our neighbors who got a
> couple of chichuachuas and made a little doggie door so they could
> enter and leave the house at will. One night one of those dogs
> tangled with a skunk, then went in and rolled all over the living room
> floor trying to get the stuff off. And that was the night after a
> brand new white carpet was installed in that living room. I don't
> know what the did about it but I'm sure that dog was in the doghouse.
>
>
It's also one of the perils of letting a dog off the leash 50 miles from
home.
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Date: 15 Sep 2007 03:16:11
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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In article <1189651658.349845.296490@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com >,
frkrygow@gmail.com writes:
> On Sep 12, 8:58 pm, "David L. Johnson" <david.john...@lehigh.edu>
> wrote:
>> Paul Berg wrote:
>> > Poster's comment: The bicyclist must have never biked by City Hall, for
>> > there are a good number of skunks there.
>>
>> Apparently the poster knew very little at all about skunks, or he/she
>> would have done anything but stop and watch.
>
> I've had two VERY close encounters with skunks.
I've had many.
They're very sociable, and they enjoy the company
of humans who don't freak them out or startle them,
or run them over with cars.
They're not quite as frenetic as ferrets or otters,
but just as willful. Once you become acquainted with
'em and they understand you're no threat to 'em, they
won't let 'er rip on ya. In fact it's dead easy to
get 'em to eat outa yer hand.
Just don't let them get their claws on ya.
If you befriend a pregnant skunkette, eventually she's
just gotta drop by and show off her offspring to you,
who'll follow behing Mom like boxcars behind a locomotive.
Don't touch them -- just admire and approve of them and
Mom, and give 'em your positive vibes from a respectful
distance. They'll give you their positive vibes too. As
long as you don't hassle them. Skunks are very much like
humans. I guess that's why they're attracted to us.
That, and our garbage.
cheers,
Tom
--
Nothing is safe from me.
I'm really at:
tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca
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Date: 17 Sep 2007 09:05:50
From: Peter Cole
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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Tom Keats wrote:
> In article <1189651658.349845.296490@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
> frkrygow@gmail.com writes:
>> On Sep 12, 8:58 pm, "David L. Johnson" <david.john...@lehigh.edu>
>> wrote:
>>> Paul Berg wrote:
>>>> Poster's comment: The bicyclist must have never biked by City Hall, for
>>>> there are a good number of skunks there.
>>> Apparently the poster knew very little at all about skunks, or he/she
>>> would have done anything but stop and watch.
>> I've had two VERY close encounters with skunks.
>
> I've had many.
>
> They're very sociable, and they enjoy the company
> of humans who don't freak them out or startle them,
> or run them over with cars.
Skunks are frequent visitors to our urban (Boston) yard. On a couple of
occasions I've seen our cat ambling along, side-by-side, with one (he's
a very sociable cat). He's never been sprayed.
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Date: 14 Sep 2007 15:35:11
From: Hank Wirtz
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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On Sep 14, 3:26 pm, "Curt" <c...@hevanet.com > wrote:
> "Lobby Dosser" <lobby.dosser.map...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> news:QApGi.9142
>
> > [Rabies is a widespread, viral infection of warm-blooded animals. Caused
> > by a virus in the Rhabdoviridae family, it attacks the nervous system
> > and, once symptoms develop, it is 100 percent fatal in animals.
>
> There was an article last year maybe about a teenage girl who got bit by a
> rabid bat, wound up with rabies. They kept her in a coma for like 3weeks, on
> Valium or something to stop the seizures, and I think they kept her body
> temperature down too IIRC. She survived -- they said it was a total miracle
> and she was like one in a million to do that.
>
> Definitely not the disease you want to get.
>
> Curt
Not just one in a million...the only known person to survive rabies
without vaccination, in the world, ever.
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Date: 13 Sep 2007 08:41:46
From: hal lillywhite
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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gl4316@yahoo.com wrote:
> I wouldn't want to tempt that fate either, but...
> The people I know of who have gotten close enough to make them feel
> threatened say that the skunk gives a lot of warning before spraying.
> Since they noticed such things (in all cases the skunk started dancing
> around on its front legs, for example) they avoided getting sprayed.
Don't count on it (as you say, don't tempt that particular fate). The
critter will give the warning before spraying if it thinks it has
time. It has only a limited amount of "chemical warfare agent"
available and doesn't use it lightly. However it can cut loose in a
hurry if it feels the need. And of course the skunk is the sole judge
of what makes it feel the need to fire quickly.
Back on the farm we had machinery sprayed regularly. The skunk could
have moved out of the way had it noticed but often didn't notice until
the machine was right on top of it. The reaction was a quick squirt
of skunk oil and a stinky machine. Also often a tailless skunk since
the machine was often a mower or something similar that would clear
the body but cut off the tail of the animal.
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Date: 15 Sep 2007 10:45:36
From: It's Chris
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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From: hlillywh@juno.com (hal=A0lillywhite)
>Back on the farm we had machinery
>sprayed regularly. The skunk could have
>moved out of the way had it noticed but
>often didn't notice until the machine was
>right on top of it. The reaction was a
>quick squirt of skunk oil and a stinky
>machine. Also often a tailless skunk
>since the machine was often a mower or
>something similar that would clear the
>body but cut off the tail of the animal.
Would that be called a "Sawed off shotgun"? ;-3)
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Compliments of:
"Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"
If you want to E-mail me use:
ChrisZCorner "at" webtv "dot" net
My website:
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Date: 13 Sep 2007 02:26:08
From: The poster last in PDX in 2003
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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On Sep 13, 12:03 am, Lobby Dosser <lobby.dosser.map...@verizon.net >
wrote:
> gl4...@yahoo.com (gl4...@yahoo.com) wrote:
> > The people I know of who have gotten close enough to make them feel
> > threatened say that the skunk gives a lot of warning before spraying.
> > Since they noticed such things (in all cases the skunk started dancing
> > around on its front legs, for example) they avoided getting sprayed.
>
> ROTFLOL!!!
>
> Yeah, dancing around on the front legs is a sign they're perturbed about
> something. They sure ain't telling the other skunks the distance and
> direction to a food source!
Not the Macarena...
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Date: 13 Sep 2007 02:24:43
From: The poster last in PDX in 2003
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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On Sep 12, 11:42 pm, Lobby Dosser <lobby.dosser.map...@verizon.net >
wrote:
> "e...@closed.biz" <rem sleep> wrote:
> > On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:54:48 -0700, "Curt" <c...@hevanet.com> mumbled:
>
> >>"Paul Berg" <pjb...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> >>news:25070-46E82A6B-118@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net...
> >>> ~
>
> >>> A Portland bicyclist was thrilled to encounter a skunk on the
> >>> Springwater Corridor Trail, on Monday night as the sun was going
> >>> down. "At first I thought it was a little black and white kitten"
> >>> said the bicyclist, who preferred to remain anonymous,
>
> >>I would too, if I was admitting to a paper I couldn't tell a skunk
> >>from a kitten.
>
> >>Curt
>
> > Yer about that fucking stupid.
>
> Picking up coyotes sleeping by the highway stupid.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
What was wrong with giving ugly, drunk women a lift?
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Date: 13 Sep 2007 02:23:21
From: The poster last in PDX in 2003
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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On Sep 12, 11:29 pm, "e...@closed.biz" <rem sleep > wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:54:48 -0700, "Curt" <c...@hevanet.com> mumbled:
>
>
>
> >"Paul Berg" <pjb...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> >news:25070-46E82A6B-118@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net...
> >> ~
>
> >> A Portland bicyclist was thrilled to encounter a skunk on the
> >> Springwater Corridor Trail, on Monday night as the sun was going down.
> >> "At first I thought it was a little black and white kitten" said the
> >> bicyclist, who preferred to remain anonymous,
>
> >I would too, if I was admitting to a paper I couldn't tell a skunk from a
> >kitten.
>
> >Curt
>
> Yer about that fucking stupid.
According to YER NAME, you would've stepped on the poor creature and
felt the Wrath of PEPE.
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Date: 12 Sep 2007 21:54:48
From: Curt
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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"Paul Berg" <pjberg@webtv.net > wrote in message
news:25070-46E82A6B-118@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net...
> ~
>
> A Portland bicyclist was thrilled to encounter a skunk on the
> Springwater Corridor Trail, on Monday night as the sun was going down.
> "At first I thought it was a little black and white kitten" said the
> bicyclist, who preferred to remain anonymous,
I would too, if I was admitting to a paper I couldn't tell a skunk from a
kitten.
Curt
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Date: 13 Sep 2007 05:29:50
From: eye@closed.biz
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:54:48 -0700, "Curt" <cje@hevanet.com > mumbled:
>
>"Paul Berg" <pjberg@webtv.net> wrote in message
>news:25070-46E82A6B-118@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net...
>> ~
>>
>> A Portland bicyclist was thrilled to encounter a skunk on the
>> Springwater Corridor Trail, on Monday night as the sun was going down.
>> "At first I thought it was a little black and white kitten" said the
>> bicyclist, who preferred to remain anonymous,
>
>I would too, if I was admitting to a paper I couldn't tell a skunk from a
>kitten.
>
>Curt
>
Yer about that fucking stupid.
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Date: 13 Sep 2007 05:42:56
From: Lobby Dosser
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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"eye@closed.biz" <rem sleep > wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:54:48 -0700, "Curt" <cje@hevanet.com> mumbled:
>
>>
>>"Paul Berg" <pjberg@webtv.net> wrote in message
>>news:25070-46E82A6B-118@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net...
>>> ~
>>>
>>> A Portland bicyclist was thrilled to encounter a skunk on the
>>> Springwater Corridor Trail, on Monday night as the sun was going
>>> down. "At first I thought it was a little black and white kitten"
>>> said the bicyclist, who preferred to remain anonymous,
>>
>>I would too, if I was admitting to a paper I couldn't tell a skunk
>>from a kitten.
>>
>>Curt
>>
> Yer about that fucking stupid.
>
Picking up coyotes sleeping by the highway stupid.
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Date: 13 Sep 2007 05:45:54
From: eye@closed.biz
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 05:42:56 GMT, Lobby Dosser
<lobby.dosser.mapson@verizon.net > mumbled:
>"eye@closed.biz" <rem sleep> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:54:48 -0700, "Curt" <cje@hevanet.com> mumbled:
>>
>>>
>>>"Paul Berg" <pjberg@webtv.net> wrote in message
>>>news:25070-46E82A6B-118@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net...
>>>> ~
>>>>
>>>> A Portland bicyclist was thrilled to encounter a skunk on the
>>>> Springwater Corridor Trail, on Monday night as the sun was going
>>>> down. "At first I thought it was a little black and white kitten"
>>>> said the bicyclist, who preferred to remain anonymous,
>>>
>>>I would too, if I was admitting to a paper I couldn't tell a skunk
>>>from a kitten.
>>>
>>>Curt
>>>
>> Yer about that fucking stupid.
>>
>
>Picking up coyotes sleeping by the highway stupid.
Who wouldn't save a stray dog?
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Date: 13 Sep 2007 06:00:13
From: Lobby Dosser
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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"eye@closed.biz" <rem sleep > wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 05:42:56 GMT, Lobby Dosser
> <lobby.dosser.mapson@verizon.net> mumbled:
>
>>"eye@closed.biz" <rem sleep> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:54:48 -0700, "Curt" <cje@hevanet.com>
>>> mumbled:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Paul Berg" <pjberg@webtv.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:25070-46E82A6B-118@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net...
>>>>> ~
>>>>>
>>>>> A Portland bicyclist was thrilled to encounter a skunk on the
>>>>> Springwater Corridor Trail, on Monday night as the sun was going
>>>>> down. "At first I thought it was a little black and white kitten"
>>>>> said the bicyclist, who preferred to remain anonymous,
>>>>
>>>>I would too, if I was admitting to a paper I couldn't tell a skunk
>>>>from a kitten.
>>>>
>>>>Curt
>>>>
>>> Yer about that fucking stupid.
>>>
>>
>>Picking up coyotes sleeping by the highway stupid.
>
>
> Who wouldn't save a stray dog?
LOL!!
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Date: 12 Sep 2007 20:27:20
From: Mike Jacoubowsky
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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> A Portland bicyclist was thrilled to encounter a skunk on the
> Springwater Corridor Trail, on Monday night as the sun was going down.
> "At first I thought it was a little black and white kitten" said the
> bicyclist, who preferred to remain anonymous, "I have seen snakes and
> turtles and possums and raccoons and heron and eagles and even a deer,
> but I did not know we had skunks living in our city. And I had no idea
> they were so cute!" The bicyclist stopped to watch the skunk for a
> moment and then bicycled home.
>
> ~
>
> Poster's comment: The bicyclist must have never biked by City Hall, for
> there are a good number of skunks there.
I think the point is that life passes by at just the right speed on a bike.
Think about that one for a moment, and whether that might be the way it
really is.
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
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Date: 13 Sep 2007 04:40:37
From: Lobby Dosser
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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"Mike Jacoubowsky" <mikej1@ix.netcom.com > wrote:
>> A Portland bicyclist was thrilled to encounter a skunk on the
>> Springwater Corridor Trail, on Monday night as the sun was going
>> down. "At first I thought it was a little black and white kitten"
>> said the bicyclist, who preferred to remain anonymous, "I have seen
>> snakes and turtles and possums and raccoons and heron and eagles and
>> even a deer, but I did not know we had skunks living in our city. And
>> I had no idea they were so cute!" The bicyclist stopped to watch the
>> skunk for a moment and then bicycled home.
>>
>> ~
>>
>> Poster's comment: The bicyclist must have never biked by City Hall,
>> for there are a good number of skunks there.
>
> I think the point is that life passes by at just the right speed on a
> bike. Think about that one for a moment, and whether that might be the
> way it really is.
Also kind of sad that someone's first sight of a skunk is not as a child.
Before I was nine I'd seen all of those critters up close and personal
while wandering the woods with friends.
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Date: 12 Sep 2007 22:38:34
From: Bill Shatzer
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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Lobby Dosser wrote:
> "Mike Jacoubowsky" <mikej1@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>A Portland bicyclist was thrilled to encounter a skunk on the
>>>Springwater Corridor Trail, on Monday night as the sun was going
>>>down. "At first I thought it was a little black and white kitten"
>>>said the bicyclist, who preferred to remain anonymous, "I have seen
>>>snakes and turtles and possums and raccoons and heron and eagles and
>>>even a deer, but I did not know we had skunks living in our city. And
>>>I had no idea they were so cute!" The bicyclist stopped to watch the
>>>skunk for a moment and then bicycled home.
>>>Poster's comment: The bicyclist must have never biked by City Hall,
>>>for there are a good number of skunks there.
>>I think the point is that life passes by at just the right speed on a
>>bike. Think about that one for a moment, and whether that might be the
>>way it really is.
> Also kind of sad that someone's first sight of a skunk is not as a child.
> Before I was nine I'd seen all of those critters up close and personal
> while wandering the woods with friends.
Your friends were skunks?
Figures.
Peace and justice,
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Date: 13 Sep 2007 05:43:55
From: eye@closed.biz
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:38:34 -0700, Bill Shatzer
<bshatzerNO@comcast.net > mumbled:
>Lobby Dosser wrote:
>
>> "Mike Jacoubowsky" <mikej1@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>>>>A Portland bicyclist was thrilled to encounter a skunk on the
>>>>Springwater Corridor Trail, on Monday night as the sun was going
>>>>down. "At first I thought it was a little black and white kitten"
>>>>said the bicyclist, who preferred to remain anonymous, "I have seen
>>>>snakes and turtles and possums and raccoons and heron and eagles and
>>>>even a deer, but I did not know we had skunks living in our city. And
>>>>I had no idea they were so cute!" The bicyclist stopped to watch the
>>>>skunk for a moment and then bicycled home.
>
>>>>Poster's comment: The bicyclist must have never biked by City Hall,
>>>>for there are a good number of skunks there.
>
>>>I think the point is that life passes by at just the right speed on a
>>>bike. Think about that one for a moment, and whether that might be the
>>>way it really is.
>
>> Also kind of sad that someone's first sight of a skunk is not as a child.
>> Before I was nine I'd seen all of those critters up close and personal
>> while wandering the woods with friends.
>
>
>Your friends were skunks?
>
>Figures.
JEalous your rellys went over to his house?
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Date: 13 Sep 2007 05:58:39
From: Lobby Dosser
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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"eye@closed.biz" <rem sleep > wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:38:34 -0700, Bill Shatzer
> <bshatzerNO@comcast.net> mumbled:
>
>>Lobby Dosser wrote:
>>
>>> "Mike Jacoubowsky" <mikej1@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>A Portland bicyclist was thrilled to encounter a skunk on the
>>>>>Springwater Corridor Trail, on Monday night as the sun was going
>>>>>down. "At first I thought it was a little black and white kitten"
>>>>>said the bicyclist, who preferred to remain anonymous, "I have seen
>>>>>snakes and turtles and possums and raccoons and heron and eagles
>>>>>and even a deer, but I did not know we had skunks living in our
>>>>>city. And I had no idea they were so cute!" The bicyclist stopped
>>>>>to watch the skunk for a moment and then bicycled home.
>>
>>>>>Poster's comment: The bicyclist must have never biked by City Hall,
>>>>>for there are a good number of skunks there.
>>
>>>>I think the point is that life passes by at just the right speed on
>>>>a bike. Think about that one for a moment, and whether that might be
>>>>the way it really is.
>>
>>> Also kind of sad that someone's first sight of a skunk is not as a
>>> child. Before I was nine I'd seen all of those critters up close and
>>> personal while wandering the woods with friends.
>>
>>
>>Your friends were skunks?
>>
>>Figures.
>
> JEalous your rellys went over to his house?
>
And a Really Pathetic comeback.
I can remember lying on my stomach watching a mother skunk and three kits
walk by less than three feet away. Precious times. And they're still
around if you look for them. The bicyclist is paying attention.
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Date: 12 Sep 2007 19:47:38
From:
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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On Sep 12, 8:58 pm, "David L. Johnson" <david.john...@lehigh.edu >
wrote:
> Paul Berg wrote:
> > Poster's comment: The bicyclist must have never biked by City Hall, for
> > there are a good number of skunks there.
>
> Apparently the poster knew very little at all about skunks, or he/she
> would have done anything but stop and watch.
I've had two VERY close encounters with skunks. One was as a friend
and I were crossing a foggy field in the dark, just before setting up
camp for the night. That skunk passed within about five feet of us.
The other was as my family and I sat at a picnic table in a state park
at dusk, when the skunk walked directly under the table.
In neither case was the skunk smelly, or even nervous. Both times, we
froze immediately, but the animal passed by without incident.
Not that I'd voluntarily tempt that fate!
- Frank Krygowski
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Date: 15 Sep 2007 10:39:45
From: It's Chris
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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I think most people would prefer to encounter a bear than a skunk.
Never seen a skunk while riding, other than flat on the road that is.
Possum, coyotes, snakes, squirrels (not the homicidal variety, thank
goodness), LOTS of deer since moving to SC. Saw a red fox once.
I lost my sense of smell a long time ago, so an unfortunate encounter
would only make others suffer, unless I got it in the eyes, of course.
- -
Compliments of:
"Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"
If you want to E-mail me use:
ChrisZCorner "at" webtv "dot" net
My website:
http://geocities.com/czcorner
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Date: 12 Sep 2007 22:48:18
From: gl4316@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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In article <1189651658.349845.296490@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com >,
frkrygow@gmail.com wrote:
> In neither case was the skunk smelly, or even nervous. Both times, we
> froze immediately, but the animal passed by without incident.
>
> Not that I'd voluntarily tempt that fate!
I wouldn't want to tempt that fate either, but...
The people I know of who have gotten close enough to make them feel
threatened say that the skunk gives a lot of warning before spraying.
Since they noticed such things (in all cases the skunk started dancing
around on its front legs, for example) they avoided getting sprayed.
--
-Glennl
e-mail hint: add 1 to quantity after gl to get 4317.
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Date: 13 Sep 2007 06:03:37
From: Lobby Dosser
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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gl4316@yahoo.com (gl4316@yahoo.com) wrote:
> The people I know of who have gotten close enough to make them feel
> threatened say that the skunk gives a lot of warning before spraying.
> Since they noticed such things (in all cases the skunk started dancing
> around on its front legs, for example) they avoided getting sprayed.
>
>
ROTFLOL!!!
Yeah, dancing around on the front legs is a sign they're perturbed about
something. They sure ain't telling the other skunks the distance and
direction to a food source!
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Date: 12 Sep 2007 18:32:38
From: hal lillywhite
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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Paul Berg wrote:
> A Portland bicyclist was thrilled to encounter a skunk on the
> Springwater Corridor Trail, on Monday night as the sun was going down.
> "At first I thought it was a little black and white kitten" said the
> bicyclist, who preferred to remain anonymous, "I have seen snakes and
> turtles and possums and raccoons and heron and eagles and even a deer,
> but I did not know we had skunks living in our city.
Skunks live darn near everywhere there is a bit of territory for them
to hide and get something to eat.
Back when I was at Ft Benning in jump school everything was labeled
airborne. The airborne mess hall, the airborne barracks etc. One day
I saw an airborne skunk going under the airborne mess hall.
>And I had no idea
> they were so cute!" The bicyclist stopped to watch the skunk for a
> moment and then bicycled home.
Safe if you do it from a reasonable distance and don't give the
critter reason to feel threatened. IOtherwise you might have
something worse than a serious case of BO.
My father in law, a farmer, once took a direct hit from a skunk. That
was just before he had to go to a church meeting. He didn't have time
to really clean it off so went anyway. Everybody kept commenting on
how close that skunk must be but nobody realized it was him.
> Poster's comment: The bicyclist must have never biked by City Hall, for
> there are a good number of skunks there.
Yeah but two-legged skunks are not nearly as cute as the four-legged
variety.
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Date: 12 Sep 2007 20:58:23
From: David L. Johnson
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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Paul Berg wrote:
> Poster's comment: The bicyclist must have never biked by City Hall, for
> there are a good number of skunks there.
Apparently the poster knew very little at all about skunks, or he/she
would have done anything but stop and watch.
--
David L. Johnson
A mathematician is a machine for turning coffee into theorems.
-- Paul Erdos
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Date: 13 Sep 2007 04:35:06
From: Lobby Dosser
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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"David L. Johnson" <david.johnson@lehigh.edu > wrote:
> Paul Berg wrote:
>
>> Poster's comment: The bicyclist must have never biked by City Hall,
for
>> there are a good number of skunks there.
>
> Apparently the poster knew very little at all about skunks, or he/she
> would have done anything but stop and watch.
>
Skunks in urban areas are pretty used to people and will not spray
without provocation. Standing watching them is unlikely to provoke them.
If, however, you have a dog with you, you better beat feet! Much more
serious than skunk spray, is the fact that they may be rabid. I'd fear
the bite more than the spray.
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Date: 13 Sep 2007 21:54:22
From: Ted Mittelstaedt
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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"Lobby Dosser" <lobby.dosser.mapson@verizon.net > wrote in message
news:_53Gi.3342$1n1.856@trnddc02...
> "David L. Johnson" <david.johnson@lehigh.edu> wrote:
>
> > Paul Berg wrote:
> >
> >> Poster's comment: The bicyclist must have never biked by City Hall,
> for
> >> there are a good number of skunks there.
> >
> > Apparently the poster knew very little at all about skunks, or he/she
> > would have done anything but stop and watch.
> >
>
> Skunks in urban areas are pretty used to people and will not spray
> without provocation. Standing watching them is unlikely to provoke them.
> If, however, you have a dog with you, you better beat feet! Much more
> serious than skunk spray, is the fact that they may be rabid. I'd fear
> the bite more than the spray.
Rabies is extremely uncommon in Oregon. The health dept. has
graphs and statistics. I don't believe there has ever been a case of
rabies in a skunk in Oregon. As I recall the most common carriers are
bats, foxes, dogs and cats.
Rabid animals that are in early stages of the disease act like
any other animal - they would avoid a skunk. Rabid animals
in late states of the disease that attacked a skunk would pretty
much ignore the spraying and end up killing the skunk.
Pets are the most common vector of transmission to humans
followed by bats. Any bat bite should automatically be assumed
to have come from a rabid bat. And more importantly, people
who spend a lot of time in places bats frequent - splunkers,
pest removal, chimney sweeps, and such - should have the
rabies vaccination series that is given before exposure.
You do not have to be bitten to contract rabies. There is a
documented case of a woman who died of rabies having never
been bitten. She had rabid bats living in her chimney in her
home.
Ted
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Date: 14 Sep 2007 06:09:52
From: Lobby Dosser
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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"Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com > wrote:
>
> "Lobby Dosser" <lobby.dosser.mapson@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:_53Gi.3342$1n1.856@trnddc02...
>> "David L. Johnson" <david.johnson@lehigh.edu> wrote:
>>
>> > Paul Berg wrote:
>> >
>> >> Poster's comment: The bicyclist must have never biked by City
>> >> Hall,
>> for
>> >> there are a good number of skunks there.
>> >
>> > Apparently the poster knew very little at all about skunks, or
>> > he/she would have done anything but stop and watch.
>> >
>>
>> Skunks in urban areas are pretty used to people and will not spray
>> without provocation. Standing watching them is unlikely to provoke
>> them. If, however, you have a dog with you, you better beat feet!
>> Much more serious than skunk spray, is the fact that they may be
>> rabid. I'd fear the bite more than the spray.
>
> Rabies is extremely uncommon in Oregon. The health dept. has
> graphs and statistics. I don't believe there has ever been a case of
> rabies in a skunk in Oregon. As I recall the most common carriers are
> bats, foxes, dogs and cats.
>
> Rabid animals that are in early stages of the disease act like
> any other animal - they would avoid a skunk. Rabid animals
> in late states of the disease that attacked a skunk would pretty
> much ignore the spraying and end up killing the skunk.
>
> Pets are the most common vector of transmission to humans
> followed by bats. Any bat bite should automatically be assumed
> to have come from a rabid bat. And more importantly, people
> who spend a lot of time in places bats frequent - splunkers,
> pest removal, chimney sweeps, and such - should have the
> rabies vaccination series that is given before exposure.
>
> You do not have to be bitten to contract rabies. There is a
> documented case of a woman who died of rabies having never
> been bitten. She had rabid bats living in her chimney in her
> home.
>
> Ted
>
>
>
<http://www.ohsu.edu/health/health-topics/topic.cfm?id=9223 >
[Rabies is a widespread, viral infection of warm-blooded animals. Caused
by a virus in the Rhabdoviridae family, it attacks the nervous system
and, once symptoms develop, it is 100 percent fatal in animals.
In North America, rabies occurs primarily in skunks, raccoons, foxes, and
bats. In some areas, these wild animals infect domestic cats, dogs, and
livestock. In the United States, cats are more likely than dogs to be
rabid.]
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Date: 14 Sep 2007 15:26:37
From: Curt
Subject: Re: The Pleasure of Bike Riding in Portland, Oregon
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"Lobby Dosser" <lobby.dosser.mapson@verizon.net > wrote in message
news:QApGi.9142
> [Rabies is a widespread, viral infection of warm-blooded animals. Caused
> by a virus in the Rhabdoviridae family, it attacks the nervous system
> and, once symptoms develop, it is 100 percent fatal in animals.
There was an article last year maybe about a teenage girl who got bit by a
rabid bat, wound up with rabies. They kept her in a coma for like 3weeks, on
Valium or something to stop the seizures, and I think they kept her body
temperature down too IIRC. She survived -- they said it was a total miracle
and she was like one in a million to do that.
Definitely not the disease you want to get.
Curt
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