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Date: 24 Aug 2006 14:56:37
From: marian.rosenberg@gmail.com
Subject: The Search Continues
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With 8 days left before I leave the country I still haven't found myself a new mountain bike (preferably used) to take back to China with me. Strange as it may seem to some, given how many wonderful things I have had to write about my local bike shops I am deliberately making a point of NOT patronizing them. I already ran afoul of the bike shop wars once and I'm not going to do that again. Because it isn't just about competition. It's about pride and anger and I'm not sure which bike shop owner is being more petty about it. Some of the bikers have picked sides. Most make an active point of ignoring the fight and equally patronizing both shops within certain limitations of stock and price. But I made a mistake. Well before I even knew that they were enemies or even competition I became friends with people on both sides. Which is cool. For the most part the employees and management are doing the same thing the bikers are doing, ignoring the fight. It doesn't involve them. It involves Laobanniang and Yongge. But I became more than just friends. I became Laobanniang's adopted foreign daughter. I started working as a translator for both sides. And then after I was well and truly embroiled in the middle of the whole thing I found out about The Fight. They know I'm planning on getting a mountain bike. When I was first asked if I was ever going to get a mountain bike I said "when my road bike hits 10,000 km" ie never. I was over 12,000 km when I went home for the summer. And, as the bike club's darling foreign girl, most improved cyclist in the last calender year, new member of the bike team, and all that everyone knew. The big bike shop has promised me extensive discounts if I buy from them. Well above and beyond my normal discounts which are already pretty deep. The little bike shop has promised to help me collect new and second hand parts, to loan me the work stand and to offer guidance while I build it myself. And both owners have rather huffily said in a tone of voice that indicated that they most certainly did care and most certainly would be annoyed if I bought from The Enemy that I can shop wherever I want because it's not like there is anything more than a casual relationship between my status as customer, my status as employee, and my status as friend. So I've decided to get a bike in the US. I'd rather buy from neither side than risk offending whichever side I don't buy from. Currently it looks like I'm going to be getting a nth-hand Cannondale of unknown vintage with a scary spray can camoflauge job that has already proven to be removeable with paint thinner and a rag. I wanted a suspension fork which he only had on his crap bikes (yard sale collector who likes fixing bikes and placing them in good homes, there were over 70) but I found a secondhand zocchi fork for another $50 on craigslist and that'll bring the total to $225. What do you all think? -M
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 15:46:42
From: marian.rosenberg@gmail.com
Subject: Re: The Search Continues
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rleone@hotmail.com wrote: > Hi ian: > I WAS going to suggest getting a steel Surly or Soma > (www.somafab.com) frame and building it up, but I like the recycled > Cannondale idea too. Something JUST weird enough the bike shops on > Hainan don't stock, so neither can get really offended. The bigger of the two has a Cannondale catalogue, and sometimes some Cannondale clothing. > Just make sure > the bike fits otherwise you're in for a world of "I'm saying 'I told > you so'" hurt... I'd already test rode the C'dale and been very happy with everything about it _except_ the lack of suspension. Offroad in Hainan is not particularly suited to a suss fork. Which is not to say that I haven't done it. On my road bike even. And it was fun. But I wouldn't call it a good idea. Even if it did win me the admiration of the cute bike shop manager. Now that I've gotten a significant portion of the paint stripped off (enough so to make the scary spray can gold even scarier) the bike is looking pretty good. Year/model still unknown. Has the Sobe green tea lizards on it and net surfing indicates that it is probably a CAAD2 frame. Size seems strange to me because at the one bike shop where I looked at a potential new bike (Gary Fisher) the 17.5" bike was nearly too big and despite a sticker saying 20" this fits lovely. SRAM 5.0 rear derailleur. Shimano unknown hyperglide 8 speed cassette. Shimano unknown front derailleur. Found Sugino written on the back of one of the cranks so I'm assuming chainring (which is a triple) is Sugino. Wheels are 32 spoke "Made in the USA" Weinmann ZAC 19 laced to unknown hubs. Even though I'm getting a new fork, I'll probably keep the current steel fork since it has eyelets for a front rack and I can then swap them if I want to go touring. Chain is rusty orange and will need replacing. I'm not particularly fond of grip shifters but I have a pair of brakes with thumb shifters currently sitting unused in my apartment. The current pedals (Wellgo) will be replaced with the eggbeaters that were on my road bike. Never did find out how much a similar road bike would cost in the US but the person buying it was the nth one to offer me more than I paid for it 7000 miles ago and the first one to come up with the money. I'll be returning to Hainan with the C'dale, the zocchi fork, a Cateye Astrale 6 computer, and a Peugot road bike from ~1990 without wheels but with a Brooks saddle. I have a pair of "made in Belgium" Weinmann wheels sans cassette that I got for free with the understanding that the ball bearings need to be repacked and that the rims are some other standard than 700c specifically labelled "16x630 - 27x1 1/4". If I should choose to invest in bikes as much as I earned from the sale of the road bike I still have $130 left to spend on a English language repair manual, a cassette for the Peugot, and who knows what else. -M
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 10:11:35
From: Lars Lehtonen
Subject: Re: The Search Continues
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According to ian.rosenberg@gmail.com <ian.rosenberg@gmail.com >: >So I've decided to get a bike in the US. > >I'd rather buy from neither side than risk offending whichever side I >don't buy from. > >Currently it looks like I'm going to be getting a nth-hand Cannondale >of unknown vintage with a scary spray can camoflauge job that has >already proven to be removeable with paint thinner and a rag. I wanted >a suspension fork which he only had on his crap bikes (yard sale >collector who likes fixing bikes and placing them in good homes, there >were over 70) but I found a secondhand zocchi fork for another $50 >on craigslist and that'll bring the total to $225. I am a broken record on this subject: Find an early '90s steel bike with a rigid fork. I really like my Stumpjumper, and I'm often tempted by the nutty-low prices on the Trek 920
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 04:41:03
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Subject: Re: The Search Continues
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Hi ian: I WAS going to suggest getting a steel Surly or Soma (www.somafab.com) frame and building it up, but I like the recycled Cannondale idea too. Something JUST weird enough the bike shops on Hainan don't stock, so neither can get really offended. Just make sure the bike fits otherwise you're in for a world of "I'm saying 'I told you so'" hurt... Robert Leone rleone@hotmail.com ian.rosenberg@gmail.com wrote: SNIP > I'd rather buy from neither side than risk offending whichever side I > don't buy from. > SNIP > > -M
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 00:55:59
From: Paul Hobson
Subject: Re: The Search Continues
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ian.rosenberg@gmail.com wrote: > Currently it looks like I'm going to be getting a nth-hand Cannondale > of unknown vintage with a scary spray can camoflauge job that has > already proven to be removeable with paint thinner and a rag. I wanted > a suspension fork which he only had on his crap bikes (yard sale > collector who likes fixing bikes and placing them in good homes, there > were over 70) but I found a secondhand zocchi fork for another $50 > on craigslist and that'll bring the total to $225. > > What do you all think? > > -M I think you typed out 70 lines to ask if you want something. Do you want it? \\paul
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