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Date: 15 Aug 2006 01:29:34
From: Kristian M Zoerhoff
Subject: The squirrel menace spreads beyond bikes
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Now they're staking out shopping malls.
<http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/local_story_226195718.html >
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 17:04:56
From: Chris Z The Wheelman
Subject: Re: The squirrel menace spreads beyond bikes
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Y'know, some Hollywood type really should consider a horror flick
starring these "killer squirrels"
Hey, it worked with tomatoes... :-3)
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Date: 16 Aug 2006 02:51:28
From: Mike A Schwab
Subject: Re: The squirrel menace spreads beyond bikes
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Under Illinois law 'damages in excess of $50,000' means unlimited
amount.
Bill Sornson wrote:
> dgk wrote:
<deleted >
>
> Got me to read the article. At least she's suing for 50 grand and not 5
> mil -- I bet they pay it (or close to it) to make it go away. (She DOES
> have a point it seems to me. What if the employees fed a feral cat like
> that and it bit a customer? They certainly contributed to the factors that
> brought about the incident.)
>
> Bill S.
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Date: 15 Aug 2006 20:00:51
From: Hadron Quark
Subject: Re: The squirrel menace spreads beyond bikes
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"Bill Sornson" <askme@ask.me > writes:
> Hadron Quark wrote:
>> "Bill Sornson" <askme@ask.me> writes:
>>
>>> dgk wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 01:29:34 GMT, Kristian M Zoerhoff
>>>> <kristian.zoerhoff@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Now they're staking out shopping malls.
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/local_story_226195718.html>
>>>>
>>>> She shouldn't have put acorn perfume on her legs.
>>>
>>> Got me to read the article. At least she's suing for 50 grand and
>>> not 5 mil -- I bet they pay it (or close to it) to make it go away.
>>> (She DOES have a point it seems to me. What if the employees fed a
>>> feral cat like that and it bit a customer? They certainly
>>> contributed to the factors that brought about the incident.)
>>
>> Bull. Its just one of those things. What next? Suing someone for
>> having grass when someone steps on a worm and slips up? Bloody
>> ridiculous.
>
> It was a business in a commercial setting, not some private residence or
> park. I bet she wins (or settles).
Businesses have grass allotments you know. Encouraging worms.
I bet she does too : sad.
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Date: 15 Aug 2006 19:00:11
From: Hadron Quark
Subject: Re: The squirrel menace spreads beyond bikes
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"Bill Sornson" <askme@ask.me > writes:
> dgk wrote:
>> On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 01:29:34 GMT, Kristian M Zoerhoff
>> <kristian.zoerhoff@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Now they're staking out shopping malls.
>>>
>>> <http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/local_story_226195718.html>
>>
>> She shouldn't have put acorn perfume on her legs.
>
> Got me to read the article. At least she's suing for 50 grand and not 5
> mil -- I bet they pay it (or close to it) to make it go away. (She DOES
> have a point it seems to me. What if the employees fed a feral cat like
> that and it bit a customer? They certainly contributed to the factors that
> brought about the incident.)
Bull. Its just one of those things. What next? Suing someone for having
grass when someone steps on a worm and slips up? Bloody ridiculous.
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Date: 15 Aug 2006 17:41:27
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: The squirrel menace spreads beyond bikes
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Hadron Quark wrote:
> "Bill Sornson" <askme@ask.me> writes:
>
>> dgk wrote:
>>> On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 01:29:34 GMT, Kristian M Zoerhoff
>>> <kristian.zoerhoff@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Now they're staking out shopping malls.
>>>>
>>>> <http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/local_story_226195718.html>
>>>
>>> She shouldn't have put acorn perfume on her legs.
>>
>> Got me to read the article. At least she's suing for 50 grand and
>> not 5 mil -- I bet they pay it (or close to it) to make it go away.
>> (She DOES have a point it seems to me. What if the employees fed a
>> feral cat like that and it bit a customer? They certainly
>> contributed to the factors that brought about the incident.)
>
> Bull. Its just one of those things. What next? Suing someone for
> having grass when someone steps on a worm and slips up? Bloody
> ridiculous.
It was a business in a commercial setting, not some private residence or
park. I bet she wins (or settles).
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Date: 15 Aug 2006 19:17:42
From: Werehatrack
Subject: Re: The squirrel menace spreads beyond bikes
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 17:41:27 GMT, "Bill Sornson" <askme@ask.me > wrote:
>Hadron Quark wrote:
>> "Bill Sornson" <askme@ask.me> writes:
>>
>>> dgk wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 01:29:34 GMT, Kristian M Zoerhoff
>>>> <kristian.zoerhoff@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Now they're staking out shopping malls.
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/local_story_226195718.html>
>>>>
>>>> She shouldn't have put acorn perfume on her legs.
>>>
>>> Got me to read the article. At least she's suing for 50 grand and
>>> not 5 mil -- I bet they pay it (or close to it) to make it go away.
>>> (She DOES have a point it seems to me. What if the employees fed a
>>> feral cat like that and it bit a customer? They certainly
>>> contributed to the factors that brought about the incident.)
>>
>> Bull. Its just one of those things. What next? Suing someone for
>> having grass when someone steps on a worm and slips up? Bloody
>> ridiculous.
>
>It was a business in a commercial setting, not some private residence or
>park. I bet she wins (or settles).
Much depends on the judge, the jury, and the defense attorney(s).
If on the jury, I would have to be convinced that the facility's ower
was aware of the practice and approved its continuance before I could
assess blame there. It can be expected that random people, including
employees, will do foolish things that seem harmless (feeding
squirrels being one very common example) in public places; this does
not mean that the owner of the public place should be culpable for the
results of this common behavior if they had no hand in permitting or
encouraging it.
OTOH, if they had a vending machine by the door selling handfuls of
Purina Squirrel Chow for 50 cents a pop, it would be really hard to
defend against the claim...and that's a good bit of the reason why you
don't see people selling sacks of breadcrumbs to feed the birds in
parks and other public areas.
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Date: 16 Aug 2006 02:52:53
From: Mike Kruger
Subject: Re: The squirrel menace spreads beyond bikes
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"Werehatrack" <rault00@earthWEEDSlink.net > wrote in message
news:nt64e29qcdlra8ucom8sg7fvrji9ic99nv@4ax.com...
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> OTOH, if they had a vending machine by the door selling handfuls of
> Purina Squirrel Chow for 50 cents a pop, it would be really hard to
> defend against the claim...and that's a good bit of the reason why you
> don't see people selling sacks of breadcrumbs to feed the birds in
> parks and other public areas.
>
LOL! I'm only 4+ miles from this mall, which is quite upscale. I got a
lovely mental image of the squirrel feed machines. I'm thinking next to
Nordstrom's would be a good spot.
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Date: 15 Aug 2006 23:26:11
From: recycled-one
Subject: Re: The squirrel menace spreads beyond bikes
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"Mike Kruger" <MikeKr@mouse-potato.com > wrote in message
news:9MvEg.9558$9T3.5349@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
> "Werehatrack" <rault00@earthWEEDSlink.net> wrote in message
> news:nt64e29qcdlra8ucom8sg7fvrji9ic99nv@4ax.com...
>>
>> OTOH, if they had a vending machine by the door selling handfuls of
>> Purina Squirrel Chow for 50 cents a pop, it would be really hard to
>> defend against the claim...and that's a good bit of the reason why you
>> don't see people selling sacks of breadcrumbs to feed the birds in
>> parks and other public areas.
Actually I have seen convenience stores next to a park teeming with
squirrels that sells raw peanuts. Queens Park Toronto when I lived their in
the 90's. Locally there are hotdog cart vendors who simply dump their unsold
buns at the end of the day for sparrows, gulls and such.
> LOL! I'm only 4+ miles from this mall, which is quite upscale. I got a
> lovely mental image of the squirrel feed machines. I'm thinking next to
> Nordstrom's would be a good spot.
I'm one to rail against frivolous lawsuits and I wouldn't award her a cent
in this one either but I would point out two things:
[1] The property owner need not instigate actions of the employees to be
found liable. The owner can be found responsible for the actions of
employees in some cases.
[2] Let's change the setting to Florida and the animal to an alligator. Now
would you think the employees who encouraged an alligator to come on the
property from the sh next door associate food with people by feeding it
should bear some responsibility if someone is attacked by the critter on the
commercial property? Or shift it to a plaza in Alberta and the animal to a
grizzly bear. Someone who causes the bear to associate food with people has
some culpability if the next person gets attacked, ethically if not legally
and I expect legally as well.
But a squirrel is not an alligator nor a bear.
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Date: 15 Aug 2006 08:32:41
From: dgk
Subject: Re: The squirrel menace spreads beyond bikes
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 01:29:34 GMT, Kristian M Zoerhoff
<kristian.zoerhoff@gmail.com > wrote:
>Now they're staking out shopping malls.
>
><http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/local_story_226195718.html>
She shouldn't have put acorn perfume on her legs.
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Date: 15 Aug 2006 15:20:37
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: The squirrel menace spreads beyond bikes
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dgk wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 01:29:34 GMT, Kristian M Zoerhoff
> <kristian.zoerhoff@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Now they're staking out shopping malls.
>>
>> <http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/local_story_226195718.html>
>
> She shouldn't have put acorn perfume on her legs.
Got me to read the article. At least she's suing for 50 grand and not 5
mil -- I bet they pay it (or close to it) to make it go away. (She DOES
have a point it seems to me. What if the employees fed a feral cat like
that and it bit a customer? They certainly contributed to the factors that
brought about the incident.)
Bill S.
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Date: 15 Aug 2006 17:03:53
From: wvantwiller
Subject: Re: The squirrel menace spreads beyond bikes
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"Bill Sornson" <askme@ask.me > wrote in
news:9DlEg.776$Cs3.516@tornado.socal.rr.com:
> dgk wrote:
>> On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 01:29:34 GMT, Kristian M Zoerhoff
>> <kristian.zoerhoff@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Now they're staking out shopping malls.
>>>
>>> <http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/local_story_226195718.html>
>>
>> She shouldn't have put acorn perfume on her legs.
>
> Got me to read the article. At least she's suing for 50 grand and not
> 5 mil -- I bet they pay it (or close to it) to make it go away. (She
> DOES have a point it seems to me. What if the employees fed a feral
> cat like that and it bit a customer? They certainly contributed to
> the factors that brought about the incident.)
>
> Bill S.
>
>
She's suing for AT LEAST $50k, which means her lawyer is fishing for all
they can get.
I believe there's a legal concept in some areas called the 'One Bite'
rule where an animal is given a chance to show it's 'vicious' before it
has to be considered 'known-by-all' to be dangerous.
BTW, did you notice the shop she was coming out of, and the area?
Given the shop and the area, I wonder if "My boy is a big-time lawyer,
and better than your son the dentist, any day."
Or, someone had a lawyer on retainer and wanted to make them earn their
fee, or someone was up late at night and saw one of those 'Loser-O'Clock-
Movie' adverts for 'My-Asbestos-Business-Just-Threw-Craps' Personal
Injury Parasites...
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