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Date: 04 Oct 2006 14:39:14
From: Hell and High Water
Subject: Too tired to ride my bike
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I try to spin on the trainer about 30 minutes first thing in the
morning, and ride 10-20 miles two or three times a week.
However, I've been having a lot of difficulty sleeping well lately, and
just don't seem to have the energy to get on the bike.
My question: After a nearly sleepless night, or maybe two or three
hours of fitful sleep, should I go ahead and get on the trainer, still?
Even though I'm almost too tired to stay awake?
It just doesn't seem like this would do me any good. I would hardly
call that 'exercise' at all.
Or, should I force myself to do the 30 minutes, hoping that it might
help me to sleep sixteen hours later, when I get back in bed? (...like
anything is going to make me MORE tired??)
Any other suggestions on exercise/insomnia?
Thanks for any help.
-Bob
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Date: 06 Oct 2006 09:42:02
From: Dukester
Subject: Re: Too tired to ride my bike
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"Hell and High Water" <tifosoREM@OVEcomcast.net > wrote in message
news:MPG.1f8dc5eb455ed2d9898cf@news.giganews.com...
>I try to spin on the trainer about 30 minutes first thing in the
> morning, and ride 10-20 miles two or three times a week.
>
> However, I've been having a lot of difficulty sleeping well lately, and
> just don't seem to have the energy to get on the bike.
>
> My question: After a nearly sleepless night, or maybe two or three
> hours of fitful sleep, should I go ahead and get on the trainer, still?
> Even though I'm almost too tired to stay awake?
>
> It just doesn't seem like this would do me any good. I would hardly
> call that 'exercise' at all.
>
> Or, should I force myself to do the 30 minutes, hoping that it might
> help me to sleep sixteen hours later, when I get back in bed? (...like
> anything is going to make me MORE tired??)
>
>
> Any other suggestions on exercise/insomnia?
I keep riding with the belief that it will help me sleep later, regardless
of how tired I am. But I always have trouble sleeping when it is the week
of a full moon (like this week) and it shines into our bedroom like
daylight. This week has been awful. What's really bad is when I do long
rides and *still* can't get to sleep. Worrying about work is a big part of
it. Years ago I used to be able to leave the bed and crawl onto the couch
and get to sleep easier out there. Now I have a 10 year old lab that snores
like she is from Brobdingnag and there is no rest when in the same room as
her! Yeah, getting older is fun.
Cheers!
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Date: 05 Oct 2006 06:07:35
From: qui si parla Campagnolo
Subject: Re: Too tired to ride my bike
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Hell and High Water wrote:
> I try to spin on the trainer about 30 minutes first thing in the
> morning, and ride 10-20 miles two or three times a week.
>
> However, I've been having a lot of difficulty sleeping well lately, and
> just don't seem to have the energy to get on the bike.
>
> My question: After a nearly sleepless night, or maybe two or three
> hours of fitful sleep, should I go ahead and get on the trainer, still?
> Even though I'm almost too tired to stay awake?
>
> It just doesn't seem like this would do me any good. I would hardly
> call that 'exercise' at all.
>
> Or, should I force myself to do the 30 minutes, hoping that it might
> help me to sleep sixteen hours later, when I get back in bed? (...like
> anything is going to make me MORE tired??)
>
>
> Any other suggestions on exercise/insomnia?
>
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> -Bob
I would try to solve the inability to sleep problem first, and not try
to make yourself more tired..but riding and exercise in general has a
psychological component, if it becomes a chore, you will stop doing it.
Have ya tried a glass of wine, a 'quiet' book, some of the not
addicting sleep aides, a MD??
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Date: 05 Oct 2006 07:38:52
From: Ravi
Subject: Re: Too tired to ride my bike
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Hell and High Water wrote:
> I try to spin on the trainer about 30 minutes first thing in the
> morning, and ride 10-20 miles two or three times a week.
>
> However, I've been having a lot of difficulty sleeping well lately, and
> just don't seem to have the energy to get on the bike.
i have a different line of thought - overtraining ?? take things slowly.
May be include a few days of complete rest - listen to how your body
recovers. remember your body grows and builds strength during rest !
and as most other posts say - consult a doc. as well.
as much as possible never force yourself into anything ... instead make
the change gradually - makes it easier for the body and mind.
+ravi
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Date: 04 Oct 2006 17:04:39
From:
Subject: Re: Too tired to ride my bike
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Daryl Hunt wrote:
> "Hell and High Water" <tifosoREM@OVEcomcast.net> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1f8dc5eb455ed2d9898cf@news.giganews.com...
> >I try to spin on the trainer about 30 minutes first thing in the
> > morning, and ride 10-20 miles two or three times a week.
> >
> > However, I've been having a lot of difficulty sleeping well lately, and
> > just don't seem to have the energy to get on the bike.
> >
> > My question: After a nearly sleepless night, or maybe two or three
> > hours of fitful sleep, should I go ahead and get on the trainer, still?
> > Even though I'm almost too tired to stay awake?
> >
> > It just doesn't seem like this would do me any good. I would hardly
> > call that 'exercise' at all.
> >
> > Or, should I force myself to do the 30 minutes, hoping that it might
> > help me to sleep sixteen hours later, when I get back in bed? (...like
> > anything is going to make me MORE tired??)
> >
> >
> > Any other suggestions on exercise/insomnia?
> >
> >
> > Thanks for any help.
>
> See your Doctor. It's a bitch to grow old, isn't it.
Hey, growing old beats the alternative.
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Date: 04 Oct 2006 18:21:59
From: Daryl Hunt
Subject: Re: Too tired to ride my bike
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<pegguru@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1160006679.441884.47250@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> Daryl Hunt wrote:
>> "Hell and High Water" <tifosoREM@OVEcomcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.1f8dc5eb455ed2d9898cf@news.giganews.com...
>> >I try to spin on the trainer about 30 minutes first thing in the
>> > morning, and ride 10-20 miles two or three times a week.
>> >
>> > However, I've been having a lot of difficulty sleeping well lately, and
>> > just don't seem to have the energy to get on the bike.
>> >
>> > My question: After a nearly sleepless night, or maybe two or three
>> > hours of fitful sleep, should I go ahead and get on the trainer, still?
>> > Even though I'm almost too tired to stay awake?
>> >
>> > It just doesn't seem like this would do me any good. I would hardly
>> > call that 'exercise' at all.
>> >
>> > Or, should I force myself to do the 30 minutes, hoping that it might
>> > help me to sleep sixteen hours later, when I get back in bed? (...like
>> > anything is going to make me MORE tired??)
>> >
>> >
>> > Any other suggestions on exercise/insomnia?
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks for any help.
>>
>> See your Doctor. It's a bitch to grow old, isn't it.
>
> Hey, growing old beats the alternative.
I am still hanging around for those, "Growing Younger" pills.
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Date: 04 Oct 2006 22:29:40
From: bill
Subject: Re: Too tired to ride my bike
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Hell and High Water wrote:
> I try to spin on the trainer about 30 minutes first thing in the
> morning, and ride 10-20 miles two or three times a week.
>
> However, I've been having a lot of difficulty sleeping well lately, and
> just don't seem to have the energy to get on the bike.
>
> My question: After a nearly sleepless night, or maybe two or three
> hours of fitful sleep, should I go ahead and get on the trainer, still?
> Even though I'm almost too tired to stay awake?
>
> It just doesn't seem like this would do me any good. I would hardly
> call that 'exercise' at all.
>
> Or, should I force myself to do the 30 minutes, hoping that it might
> help me to sleep sixteen hours later, when I get back in bed? (...like
> anything is going to make me MORE tired??)
>
>
> Any other suggestions on exercise/insomnia?
>
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> -Bob
>
>
This thread I can relate to since I am a hopeless insomniac, and only
got about 1 hour of sleep last night. Do your exercise in the morning
and you will be just as awake as if you chugged a pot of coffee. If that
means spinning indoors at 5 A.M. then that is what you do, and don't do
it within 3 hours of bedtime at night.
As far as getting tired enough to sleep, if you are a true insomniac,
even riding a Century will not make you sleep, just sore legs.
Been there, done that, doesn't work. It will make you a fitter insomniac
but won't help you sleep.
My ex-doctor told me that nobody ever died from lack of sleep and what a
hard ass he was after doing 90 hour shifts in med school. I could only
comment that I would not want him anywhere near me after being up that
long, then I found a new doctor. My occasional off the wall posts here
are generally after a lack of sleep, and that carries over into trying
to work without messing something up, or even driving/riding to work
without a traffic 'incident'. I do know that the rule is never to drink
caffeine after lunch time, and not to eat anything high in sugar after
about 5 P.M. for a typical day.
Last, don't try even one glass of red wine as they say is good for you,
because if you are an insomniac it will just make you wake up in an hour
or two anyway, due to a 'rebound' effect. If you can't make do with life
style adjustments, be very, very, careful about prescription
medications, since some of them are very addictive. I never got to "Rush
Limbaugh" mode, but have had some medications that caused rebound
insomnia when I quit them.
Good luck with sleep.
Bill Baka
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Date: 04 Oct 2006 16:14:25
From: Daryl Hunt
Subject: Re: Too tired to ride my bike
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"Hell and High Water" <tifosoREM@OVEcomcast.net > wrote in message
news:MPG.1f8dc5eb455ed2d9898cf@news.giganews.com...
>I try to spin on the trainer about 30 minutes first thing in the
> morning, and ride 10-20 miles two or three times a week.
>
> However, I've been having a lot of difficulty sleeping well lately, and
> just don't seem to have the energy to get on the bike.
>
> My question: After a nearly sleepless night, or maybe two or three
> hours of fitful sleep, should I go ahead and get on the trainer, still?
> Even though I'm almost too tired to stay awake?
>
> It just doesn't seem like this would do me any good. I would hardly
> call that 'exercise' at all.
>
> Or, should I force myself to do the 30 minutes, hoping that it might
> help me to sleep sixteen hours later, when I get back in bed? (...like
> anything is going to make me MORE tired??)
>
>
> Any other suggestions on exercise/insomnia?
>
>
> Thanks for any help.
See your Doctor. It's a bitch to grow old, isn't it.
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Date: 04 Oct 2006 16:39:35
From: Set
Subject: Re: Too tired to ride my bike
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On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 14:39:14 -0500, Hell and High Water
<tifosoREM@OVEcomcast.net > wrote:
>I try to spin on the trainer about 30 minutes first thing in the
>morning, and ride 10-20 miles two or three times a week.
>
>However, I've been having a lot of difficulty sleeping well lately, and
>just don't seem to have the energy to get on the bike.
>
>My question: After a nearly sleepless night, or maybe two or three
>hours of fitful sleep, should I go ahead and get on the trainer, still?
>Even though I'm almost too tired to stay awake?
>
>It just doesn't seem like this would do me any good. I would hardly
>call that 'exercise' at all.
>
>Or, should I force myself to do the 30 minutes, hoping that it might
>help me to sleep sixteen hours later, when I get back in bed? (...like
>anything is going to make me MORE tired??)
>
>
>Any other suggestions on exercise/insomnia?
>
>
>Thanks for any help.
>
>-Bob
If no regular MD, go to Doc-in-Box. They'll probably do a blood count and
smear. This will rule out a lot of things, including infection and anemia.
Pay 30 bucks, probably.
<disclaimer > not an md, ymmv, yadda.
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Date: 04 Oct 2006 12:46:39
From: Bill H.
Subject: Re: Too tired to ride my bike
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Hell and High Water wrote:
> Any other suggestions on exercise/insomnia?
Exercise may help with your insomnia, killing two birds with one stone.
It'd be good to get your endorphins going a bit, too - even if it's
just for a little while. It'll also help you de-stress, which may be a
partial cause for your inability to sleep well at night.
Good luck, whatever you decide.
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