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Date: 13 Mar 2007 18:12:32
From: Dish
Subject: Trek vs Schwinn
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Hi,
After a bit of research i have come down to two bikes... Trek 3700 for
$309 and 2006 Schwinn Mesa for $240...
being a first time buyer i don't really know which one would be better
as an entry level bike....
Any suggestions??
Dishant
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 08:10:46
From: marian.rosenberg@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Trek vs Schwinn
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On 17, 5:40 am, "Daryl Hunt" <d...@colwestnospam.com > wrote:
> 6. Made in China
>
> Trek: Made in China
> Giant: Made in China
> Schwinn: Made in China
At my local Giant shop when they are trying to sell someone up into
the first category of expensive one of the regular points that gets
brought up is that every Giant bike they stock over 2000 renminbi uses
a Made in Taiwan frameset.
Whereas the Trek they stock don't start getting the Made in Taiwan
stickers until they start getting close to the 10,000 renminbi k.
Though I'd never buy a Trek in China anyways, a bit of digging around
on Trek-USA's webpage shows me that the MSRP is less (for the same
bike) in the United States while Bianchi actually cost less over here
(and substantially less once my relationship and discounts come into
effect).
Though, at least for now, I'm actually opting to go with being the
first person on my block, in my city, on this island, in this
province, and well actually this entire country to own a Habanero.
-M
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 16:51:47
From: nash
Subject: Re: Trek vs Schwinn
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<ian.rosenberg@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1174144246.730605.187520@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On 17, 5:40 am, "Daryl Hunt" <d...@colwestnospam.com> wrote:
>> 6. Made in China
>>
>> Trek: Made in China
>> Giant: Made in China
>> Schwinn: Made in China
>
> At my local Giant shop when they are trying to sell someone up into
> the first category of expensive one of the regular points that gets
> brought up is that every Giant bike they stock over 2000 renminbi uses
> a Made in Taiwan frameset.
>
> Whereas the Trek they stock don't start getting the Made in Taiwan
> stickers until they start getting close to the 10,000 renminbi k.
>
> Though I'd never buy a Trek in China anyways, a bit of digging around
> on Trek-USA's webpage shows me that the MSRP is less (for the same
> bike) in the United States while Bianchi actually cost less over here
> (and substantially less once my relationship and discounts come into
> effect).
>
> Though, at least for now, I'm actually opting to go with being the
> first person on my block, in my city, on this island, in this
> province, and well actually this entire country to own a Habanero.
>
> -M
My GT is made in USA. Rare is it.
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Date: 16 Mar 2007 13:57:18
From: rick-paulos@uiowa.edu
Subject: Re: Trek vs Schwinn
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On 14, 10:01 am, "Dish" <dliha...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On 14, 10:23 am, "Claire Petersky" <cpeter...@mouse-potato.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Dish" <dliha...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:1173834752.167845.312680@e1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > Hi,
>
> > > After a bit of research i have come down to two bikes... Trek 3700 for
> > > $309 and 2006 Schwinn Mesa for $240...
>
> > > being a first time buyer i don't really know which one would be better
> > > as an entry level bike....
>
> > > Any suggestions??
>
> > Scwhinn is not the company it was a few years ago -- it sold the name to a
> > Chinese company, and the strategy changed to only sell low-quality bikes.
> > I'd go with Trek.
>
> > --
> > Warm Regards,
>
> > Claire Peterskyhttp://www.bicyclemeditations.org/
> > See the books I've set free at:http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky
>
> Thanks everyone... That was really helpful...
>
> Cheers..
Schwinn sold to the chinese? Try again.
Bought by Scott, then Pacific, then Pacific was bought by a CANADIAN
company, Dorel.
Schwinns made is China VS Treks made in China.
Tough call. Not.
The real decider is where to buy. A decent shop will properly
assemble & set the bike up and adjust it to fit you. A decent shop
will service it and cover warrenty issues. This is really helpful for
the newbies and worth the extra over an ebay or boxt buy.
Schwinn does sell different quality levels of bikes. from $49 at a
boxt to $4000 for a high end racing bike. Like any other bikes,
you get what you pay for.
Next time you are in a Trek dealer, take a closer look at the "made in
china" sticker on the head tube of nearly every bike under $1000.
If you want a 'real' Schwinn, check out Waterford, owned by Richard
Schwinn, the desendent of the Schwinn founder. Waterford is the
former Schwinn Paramount production facility in Wisconsin.
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 18:53:37
From: Patrick Lamb
Subject: Re: Trek vs Schwinn
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On 16 2007 13:57:18 -0700, "rick-paulos@uiowa.edu"
<rick-paulos@uiowa.edu > wrote:
>Schwinns made is China VS Treks made in China.
>Tough call. Not.
>The real decider is where to buy. A decent shop will properly
>assemble & set the bike up and adjust it to fit you. A decent shop
>will service it and cover warrenty issues. This is really helpful for
>the newbies and worth the extra over an ebay or boxt buy.
I agree that a decent shop (aka LBS) is key to getting a good bike,
but I'm curious: what decent shop still sells Schwinns?
Pat
Email address works as is.
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 17:57:34
From: Daryl Hunt
Subject: Re: Trek vs Schwinn
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"Patrick Lamb" <pdl678NOSPAM@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:ha3pv2tc5dcakh9id3vjdi3kulo970mm10@4ax.com...
> On 16 2007 13:57:18 -0700, "rick-paulos@uiowa.edu"
> <rick-paulos@uiowa.edu> wrote:
>>Schwinns made is China VS Treks made in China.
>>Tough call. Not.
>>The real decider is where to buy. A decent shop will properly
>>assemble & set the bike up and adjust it to fit you. A decent shop
>>will service it and cover warrenty issues. This is really helpful for
>>the newbies and worth the extra over an ebay or boxt buy.
>
> I agree that a decent shop (aka LBS) is key to getting a good bike,
> but I'm curious: what decent shop still sells Schwinns?
>
> Pat
> Email address works as is.
All 3 here sell schwinns. But not the high end.
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Date: 16 Mar 2007 15:40:52
From: Daryl Hunt
Subject: Re: Trek vs Schwinn
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<rick-paulos@uiowa.edu > wrote in message
news:1174078638.902278.34320@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On 14, 10:01 am, "Dish" <dliha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 14, 10:23 am, "Claire Petersky" <cpeter...@mouse-potato.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > "Dish" <dliha...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >news:1173834752.167845.312680@e1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > > Hi,
>>
>> > > After a bit of research i have come down to two bikes... Trek 3700
>> > > for
>> > > $309 and 2006 Schwinn Mesa for $240...
>>
>> > > being a first time buyer i don't really know which one would be
>> > > better
>> > > as an entry level bike....
>>
>> > > Any suggestions??
>>
>> > Scwhinn is not the company it was a few years ago -- it sold the name
>> > to a
>> > Chinese company, and the strategy changed to only sell low-quality
>> > bikes.
>> > I'd go with Trek.
>>
>> > --
>> > Warm Regards,
>>
>> > Claire Peterskyhttp://www.bicyclemeditations.org/
>> > See the books I've set free
>> > at:http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky
>>
>> Thanks everyone... That was really helpful...
>>
>> Cheers..
>
> Schwinn sold to the chinese? Try again.
> Bought by Scott, then Pacific, then Pacific was bought by a CANADIAN
> company, Dorel.
>
> Schwinns made is China VS Treks made in China.
> Tough call. Not.
> The real decider is where to buy. A decent shop will properly
> assemble & set the bike up and adjust it to fit you. A decent shop
> will service it and cover warrenty issues. This is really helpful for
> the newbies and worth the extra over an ebay or boxt buy.
>
> Schwinn does sell different quality levels of bikes. from $49 at a
> boxt to $4000 for a high end racing bike. Like any other bikes,
> you get what you pay for.
> Next time you are in a Trek dealer, take a closer look at the "made in
> china" sticker on the head tube of nearly every bike under $1000.
>
> If you want a 'real' Schwinn, check out Waterford, owned by Richard
> Schwinn, the desendent of the Schwinn founder. Waterford is the
> former Schwinn Paramount production facility in Wisconsin.
My Schwinn was made in China. Prior to purchase, listed the features I
required since it was being made into a Low Speed Electric Bicycle.
1. Shamano Hardware both brakes and derailers or the equivalent.
Trek: From 600 down had the same equipment
Schwinn: Starting at 139.95 to 600 down had the same
equipment
Giant From 600 down had the same equipment
All could be upgraded easily to the more expensive hardware
easily and cheaply
2. Alloy Frame (not Aluminum)
Trek, Giant and Schwinn all had this including a steel alloy
frame that I was looking for. Schwinn was normally 50 to 100 bucks cheaper
with the same basic frame.
3. Steel Forks
All three had that available. The higher end of all three had
carbon fiber which the front electric hub would eat alive quickly
4 Hardtail.
All 3 had that in the same basic price range. Schwinn was
normall 50 to 100 bucks cheaper. A Softail or Suspension rear suspension
gets eaten alive with the extra 20 lbs or so that has to be added over the
rear wheel on a carrier.
5 Prestige
Trek has the prestige as can be seen by the majority of the
postings. Giant is priced somewhere between a Trek and a Schwinn but seems
to have less of a prestige than Trek but Giant is still a danged good bike.
Schwinn seems to lack the prestige but buck for buck you still get a good
bike.
6. Made in China
Trek: Made in China
Giant: Made in China
Schwinn: Made in China
A friend of mine rides a Trek. We parked my FS 2.6 next to his and did a
comparison. His 600 buck bike had the same exact hardware on it with the
exception of his front forks that were made from carbon fiber. In my
application, the extra 400 bucks for carbon fiber would have meant that at
some time the front drive hub would either weaken the front forks from their
mounts (best case) or rip them out while operation (worst case).
The question remains, do you want functionality with a decent price or do
you want Prestige and functionality at a higher price.
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Date: 14 Mar 2007 08:01:40
From: Dish
Subject: Re: Trek vs Schwinn
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On 14, 10:23 am, "Claire Petersky" <cpeter...@mouse-potato.com >
wrote:
> "Dish" <dliha...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1173834752.167845.312680@e1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Hi,
>
> > After a bit of research i have come down to two bikes... Trek 3700 for
> > $309 and 2006 Schwinn Mesa for $240...
>
> > being a first time buyer i don't really know which one would be better
> > as an entry level bike....
>
> > Any suggestions??
>
> Scwhinn is not the company it was a few years ago -- it sold the name to a
> Chinese company, and the strategy changed to only sell low-quality bikes.
> I'd go with Trek.
>
> --
> Warm Regards,
>
> Claire Peterskyhttp://www.bicyclemeditations.org/
> See the books I've set free at:http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky
Thanks everyone... That was really helpful...
Cheers..
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Date: 14 Mar 2007 14:23:13
From: Claire Petersky
Subject: Re: Trek vs Schwinn
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"Dish" <dlihantu@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1173834752.167845.312680@e1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> Hi,
>
> After a bit of research i have come down to two bikes... Trek 3700 for
> $309 and 2006 Schwinn Mesa for $240...
>
> being a first time buyer i don't really know which one would be better
> as an entry level bike....
>
> Any suggestions??
Scwhinn is not the company it was a few years ago -- it sold the name to a
Chinese company, and the strategy changed to only sell low-quality bikes.
I'd go with Trek.
--
Warm Regards,
Claire Petersky
http://www.bicyclemeditations.org/
See the books I've set free at: http://bookcrossing.com/referral/Cpetersky
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Date: 14 Mar 2007 06:25:09
From: DanKMTB@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Trek vs Schwinn
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On 14, 7:52 am, Just A User <k...@up-yours-spammer.net > wrote:
> I second the motion on the Trek. Better company, better quality, better
> service etc, etc, etc.
While not a Trek fan, I have to back this up. They're still putting
out better than Schwinn, unless you can come across NOS from many
years ago, before schwinn went "downhill" shall we say.
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Date: 15 Mar 2007 00:40:52
From: Bellsouth Ijit 2.0
Subject: Re: Trek vs Schwinn
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<DanKMTB@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1173878709.915161.149750@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> On 14, 7:52 am, Just A User <k...@up-yours-spammer.net> wrote:
>> I second the motion on the Trek. Better company, better quality, better
>> service etc, etc, etc.
>
> While not a Trek fan, I have to back this up. They're still putting
> out better than Schwinn, unless you can come across NOS from many
> years ago, before schwinn went "downhill" shall we say.
>
Yep. Same here. Schwinn got bought out by Pacific Cycles a while back and
can be had in Wal-ts. I do have a late 80s Schwinn Paramount (Waterford)
I love dearly and a Schwinn Mesa II Reynolds 520 MTB I beat around on, but
these were pre-Pacific Schwinns.
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Date: 14 Mar 2007 09:29:07
From: Just A User
Subject: Re: Trek vs Schwinn
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DanKMTB@gmail.com wrote:
> On 14, 7:52 am, Just A User <k...@up-yours-spammer.net> wrote:
>> I second the motion on the Trek. Better company, better quality, better
>> service etc, etc, etc.
>
> While not a Trek fan, I have to back this up. They're still putting
> out better than Schwinn, unless you can come across NOS from many
> years ago, before schwinn went "downhill" shall we say.
>
Well you have to go to the WAY back machine to find something good by
Schwinn. I don't own a Trek, but have ridden a few and find them to be
good rides for the price. That being said I LOVE my Fuji. And would buy
another one when the time arises.
Ken
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Date: 13 Mar 2007 18:56:52
From: Dish
Subject: Re: Trek vs Schwinn
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On 13, 9:52 pm, "Qui si parla Campagnolo" <p...@vecchios.com >
wrote:
> On 13, 6:12 pm, "Dish" <dliha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
>
> > After a bit of research i have come down to two bikes... Trek 3700 for
> > $309 and 2006 Schwinn Mesa for $240...
>
> > being a first time buyer i don't really know which one would be better
> > as an entry level bike....
>
> > Any suggestions??
>
> > Dishant
>
> Are they from a bike shop? If yes, I would opt for the Trek...much
> less upheavals in their recent past than Schwinn...all around better
> company
yes they both are from bike shops..
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Date: 13 Mar 2007 18:52:37
From: Qui si parla Campagnolo
Subject: Re: Trek vs Schwinn
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On 13, 6:12 pm, "Dish" <dliha...@gmail.com > wrote:
> Hi,
>
> After a bit of research i have come down to two bikes... Trek 3700 for
> $309 and 2006 Schwinn Mesa for $240...
>
> being a first time buyer i don't really know which one would be better
> as an entry level bike....
>
> Any suggestions??
>
> Dishant
Are they from a bike shop? If yes, I would opt for the Trek...much
less upheavals in their recent past than Schwinn...all around better
company
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Date: 16 Mar 2007 12:45:17
From: Daryl Hunt
Subject: Re: Trek vs Schwinn
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"Qui si parla Campagnolo" <peter@vecchios.com > wrote in message
news:1173837157.706969.5700@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On 13, 6:12 pm, "Dish" <dliha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> After a bit of research i have come down to two bikes... Trek 3700 for
>> $309 and 2006 Schwinn Mesa for $240...
>>
>> being a first time buyer i don't really know which one would be better
>> as an entry level bike....
>>
>> Any suggestions??
>>
>> Dishant
>
> Are they from a bike shop? If yes, I would opt for the Trek...much
> less upheavals in their recent past than Schwinn...all around better
> company
>
I looked a Trek and was impresses. I also looked at the price and wasn't so
favorably impressed. I also looked at Giants and the price still did not
impress me. I bought a Schwinn because the bike wasn't that impressive (it
just works) but the price was.
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Date: 14 Mar 2007 23:43:55
From: Mike Jacoubowsky
Subject: Re: Trek vs Schwinn
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> Are they from a bike shop? If yes, I would opt for the Trek...much
> less upheavals in their recent past than Schwinn...all around better
> company
Gee, taking advantage of me being away (at the DC Bike Summit) so you can
say things about Trek???!!! : >)
Of course, one of the ironies is that even Pacific Cycles, which owns
Schwinn, is a fairly strong supporter of bicycle advocacy. There are a
number of industry players here, including John Burke (Trek), Nick Andrade
(Pacific Cycles/Schwinn), Chris Fortune (Saris), and a few others not
presently coming to mind. I'll be spending time with them in various
congressional offices tomorrow.
--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
"Qui si parla Campagnolo" <peter@vecchios.com > wrote in message
news:1173837157.706969.5700@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On 13, 6:12 pm, "Dish" <dliha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> After a bit of research i have come down to two bikes... Trek 3700 for
>> $309 and 2006 Schwinn Mesa for $240...
>>
>> being a first time buyer i don't really know which one would be better
>> as an entry level bike....
>>
>> Any suggestions??
>>
>> Dishant
>
> Are they from a bike shop? If yes, I would opt for the Trek...much
> less upheavals in their recent past than Schwinn...all around better
> company
>
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Date: 15 Mar 2007 14:23:10
From: Michael Warner
Subject: Re: Trek vs Schwinn
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On Wed, 14 2007 23:43:55 GMT, Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
> Of course, one of the ironies is that even Pacific Cycles, which owns
> Schwinn, is a fairly strong supporter of bicycle advocacy. There are a
> number of industry players here, including John Burke (Trek), Nick Andrade
> (Pacific Cycles/Schwinn), Chris Fortune (Saris), and a few others not
> presently coming to mind. I'll be spending time with them in various
> congressional offices tomorrow.
Don't companies and people who profit from the manufacture and sale of
bikes get accused of lobbying for better cycling facilities for personal
gain?
--
Home page: http://members.westnet.com.au/mvw
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Date: 16 Mar 2007 03:27:05
From: Mike Jacoubowsky
Subject: Re: Trek vs Schwinn
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>> Of course, one of the ironies is that even Pacific Cycles, which owns
>> Schwinn, is a fairly strong supporter of bicycle advocacy. There are a
>> number of industry players here, including John Burke (Trek), Nick
>> Andrade
>> (Pacific Cycles/Schwinn), Chris Fortune (Saris), and a few others not
>> presently coming to mind. I'll be spending time with them in various
>> congressional offices tomorrow.
>
> Don't companies and people who profit from the manufacture and sale of
> bikes get accused of lobbying for better cycling facilities for personal
> gain?
Absolutely! But I'd make a case that selfish motivation is the best, because
you can rely on it over time. Still, you have to consider that some of us
actually chose to work in the cycling industry because we love bikes, and
wouldn't be happy doing anything else. Either that or we tried everything
else and bicycles were the only thing we could fool people into thinking we
were competent with.
In all seriousness, there are worse ways to make a living than doing
something you really believe in and enjoy.
--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 11:25:42
From: Michael Warner
Subject: Re: Trek vs Schwinn
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On Fri, 16 2007 03:27:05 GMT, Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
> Absolutely! But I'd make a case that selfish motivation is the best, because
> you can rely on it over time. Still, you have to consider that some of us
> actually chose to work in the cycling industry because we love bikes, and
> wouldn't be happy doing anything else.
Of course. I apologize for the suggestion that it could be profitable for
anyone concerned :-)
--
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Date: 16 Mar 2007 12:43:30
From: Daryl Hunt
Subject: Re: Trek vs Schwinn
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"Mike Jacoubowsky" <MikeJ@ChainReaction.com > wrote in message
news:d8oKh.7855$yW.2859@newssvr11.news.prodigy.net...
>>> Of course, one of the ironies is that even Pacific Cycles, which owns
>>> Schwinn, is a fairly strong supporter of bicycle advocacy. There are a
>>> number of industry players here, including John Burke (Trek), Nick
>>> Andrade
>>> (Pacific Cycles/Schwinn), Chris Fortune (Saris), and a few others not
>>> presently coming to mind. I'll be spending time with them in various
>>> congressional offices tomorrow.
>>
>> Don't companies and people who profit from the manufacture and sale of
>> bikes get accused of lobbying for better cycling facilities for personal
>> gain?
>
> Absolutely! But I'd make a case that selfish motivation is the best,
> because you can rely on it over time. Still, you have to consider that
> some of us actually chose to work in the cycling industry because we love
> bikes, and wouldn't be happy doing anything else. Either that or we tried
> everything else and bicycles were the only thing we could fool people into
> thinking we were competent with.
>
> In all seriousness, there are worse ways to make a living than doing
> something you really believe in and enjoy.
Well said. I do the Low Speed Electric Bicycles. Am I ever going to get
rich doing it? Probably not. A profit to buy a pizza once inawhile would
be nice but not expected. Obviously, I do do something else to make a
living and do the LSEB for hobby. Although I wouldn't complain if it became
a large part of my income but it's not necessary.
I still believe that people with knew and foot injuries shouldn't give up
biking. There is a way but it appears the bicycle "Purists" don't wish to
share. The next time I am involved in a high speed chase and evasion with a
cop that wants to ticket me for my tail light being out (O.J. was a maniac
at 40 mph) I will just remember this.
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 11:28:46
From: Michael Warner
Subject: Re: Trek vs Schwinn
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On Fri, 16 2007 12:43:30 -0600, Daryl Hunt wrote:
> I still believe that people with knew and foot injuries shouldn't give up
> biking. There is a way but it appears the bicycle "Purists" don't wish to
> share.
Could you tell us more about this conspiracy?
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Date: 17 Mar 2007 17:56:01
From: Daryl Hunt
Subject: Re: Trek vs Schwinn
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"Michael Warner" <see@homepage.com > wrote in message
news:1sznsn7dqckpu$.m6utyl1alp0a$.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Fri, 16 2007 12:43:30 -0600, Daryl Hunt wrote:
>
>> I still believe that people with knew and foot injuries shouldn't give up
>> biking. There is a way but it appears the bicycle "Purists" don't wish
>> to
>> share.
>
> Could you tell us more about this conspiracy?
Thanks for verifying the "Conspiracy". LOL
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Date: 19 Mar 2007 08:26:14
From: Michael Warner
Subject: Re: Trek vs Schwinn
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On Sat, 17 2007 17:56:01 -0600, Daryl Hunt wrote:
>> Could you tell us more about this conspiracy?
>
> Thanks for verifying the "Conspiracy". LOL
But I'm still not sure whether I'm a member of it. I've never
criticized anyone for riding a motor-assisted bike, but OTOH
I've never suggested to anyone that they get one. So you see
why I'm confused.
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Date: 19 Mar 2007 23:03:53
From: Daryl Hunt
Subject: Re: Trek vs Schwinn
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"Michael Warner" <see@homepage.com > wrote in message
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> On Sat, 17 2007 17:56:01 -0600, Daryl Hunt wrote:
>
>>> Could you tell us more about this conspiracy?
>>
>> Thanks for verifying the "Conspiracy". LOL
>
> But I'm still not sure whether I'm a member of it. I've never
> criticized anyone for riding a motor-assisted bike, but OTOH
> I've never suggested to anyone that they get one. So you see
> why I'm confused.
That's the beauty of the whole conspiracy. You may be part of it but THEY
won't tell you that you are. Now, the do tell us when we aren't part of the
conspiracy. You mean you didn't get the memo? Ooooohhhhhhh.
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Date: 15 Mar 2007 14:40:18
From: John Everett
Subject: Re: Trek vs Schwinn
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On Thu, 15 2007 14:23:10 +1030, Michael Warner <see@homepage.com >
wrote:
>On Wed, 14 2007 23:43:55 GMT, Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
>
>> Of course, one of the ironies is that even Pacific Cycles, which owns
>> Schwinn, is a fairly strong supporter of bicycle advocacy. There are a
>> number of industry players here, including John Burke (Trek), Nick Andrade
>> (Pacific Cycles/Schwinn), Chris Fortune (Saris), and a few others not
>> presently coming to mind. I'll be spending time with them in various
>> congressional offices tomorrow.
>
>Don't companies and people who profit from the manufacture and sale of
>bikes get accused of lobbying for better cycling facilities for personal
>gain?
Well yes, and your point is?
--
jeverett3<AT >sbcglobal<DOT>net (John V. Everett)
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Date: 16 Mar 2007 12:17:22
From: Michael Warner
Subject: Re: Trek vs Schwinn
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On Thu, 15 2007 14:40:18 GMT, John Everett wrote:
>>Don't companies and people who profit from the manufacture and sale of
>>bikes get accused of lobbying for better cycling facilities for personal
>>gain?
>
> Well yes, and your point is?
That generally people without a profit motive are taken more seriously.
--
Home page: http://members.westnet.com.au/mvw
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Date: 14 Mar 2007 07:52:01
From: Just A User
Subject: Re: Trek vs Schwinn
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Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:
> On 13, 6:12 pm, "Dish" <dliha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> After a bit of research i have come down to two bikes... Trek 3700 for
>> $309 and 2006 Schwinn Mesa for $240...
>>
>> being a first time buyer i don't really know which one would be better
>> as an entry level bike....
>>
>> Any suggestions??
>>
>> Dishant
>
> Are they from a bike shop? If yes, I would opt for the Trek...much
> less upheavals in their recent past than Schwinn...all around better
> company
>
I second the motion on the Trek. Better company, better quality, better
service etc, etc, etc.
Ken
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