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Date: 07 Oct 2007 15:07:10
From: Mike Kruger
Subject: Watch out for road cracks!
Yet one more reminder to watch out for road cracks and uneven surface
between lanes. This is from the sweep on the club ride I was on yesterday.
"I was sweeping the ride, when Pat had a flat, I tried to catch up to the
front group to let them know. When I crossed the white line (between the
shoulder and car lanes) to pass the group, my wheel got caught in a crack
and I came down hard on my left side elbow first. There was no swelling or
much pain, I completed the ride staying with Bev. But I noticed decreasing
mobility and increasing discomfort in the arm over time, this morning I went
to the ER and was diagnosed with a radial head midline fracture. They put
me in a sling and gave me the name of an ortho guy for follow up, the
assumption is that it should heal on its own over several weeks. Meanwhile,
restrict mobility and no weight bearing."









 
Date: 11 Oct 2007 08:41:55
From: Mark
Subject: Re: Watch out for road cracks!
On Oct 9, 2:33 am, "Bellsouth Ijit 2.0 - Global Warming Edition =AE"
<b...@bellsouth.net > wrote:
> "Bill Sornson" <as...@ask.me> wrote in message
>
> news:470b0382$0$24268$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
>
>
> > Mike Kruger wrote:
> >> Bill Sornson wrote:
> >>> Bellsouth Ijit 2.0 - Global Warming Edition =AE wrote:
> >>>> "Mike Kruger" <Mik...@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:A%aOi.2684$y21.98@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net...
> >>>>> Yet one more reminder to watch out for road cracks and uneven
> >>>>> surface between lanes. This is from the sweep on the club ride I
> >>>>> was on yesterday.
> >>>>> "I was sweeping the ride, when Pat had a flat, I tried to catch up
> >>>>> to the front group to let them know. When I crossed the white line
> >>>>> (between the shoulder and car lanes) to pass the group, my wheel
> >>>>> got caught in a crack and I came down hard on my left side elbow
> >>>>> first. There was no swelling or much pain, I completed the ride
> >>>>> staying with Bev. But I noticed decreasing mobility and increasing
> >>>>> discomfort in the arm over time, this morning I went to the ER and
> >>>>> was diagnosed with a radial head midline fracture. They put me in
> >>>>> a sling and gave me the name of an ortho guy for follow up, the
> >>>>> assumption is that it should heal on its own over several weeks.
> >>>>> Meanwhile, restrict mobility and no weight bearing."
>
> >>>> One big reason I try not to ride at night any more. Can't see as
> >>>> well as in day time.
>
> >>> Huh? This was in day time. Wasn't it?
>
> >> Yes, Rebecca's accident occurred in broad daylight. But I know what
> >> Bellsouth means. When I'm riding in the dark, I favor wider tires
> >> and more flat-resistant designs. There's lots of stuff to look for,
> >> and it's harder to see glass on the road or whether the cracks are
> >> deep.
>
> > I've yet to do a night road ride, but want to some day just to see what
> > it's like. (I have ridden home from some night mountain bike rides on =
the
> > road, but fairly short distances.) One thing's for sure: I'd do it on=
a
> > route I know very well.
>
> > Bill "blinkies" S.
>
> Try it. For me, it's anxiety-causing. Although, one thing I have to say
> about night riding is that you do (or at least I do) focus only on the ro=
ad
> in front of you, which is a good thing. It's not like you can get
> distracted by the scenery, a hot chick, or a funny-looking dog. But IME
> reduced visibility really makes it more dangerous to a point where it is =
not
> just rewarding to ride. To each his own and his comfort level.

Agreed there are places I would ride with no hesitation at night. On
some night the scenery is stunning and if the moon is full you may not
even need a headlight to see what is ahead. Other places I wouldn't
even think of it. I found it interesting the Schwinn when I bought my
bike basically said in the owners manual don't ride at night or in the
wet. Ive done both many many times and likely will again lol



  
Date: 11 Oct 2007 11:29:39
From: catzz66
Subject: Re: Watch out for road cracks!
Mark wrote:
>
>
> Agreed there are places I would ride with no hesitation at night. On
> some night the scenery is stunning and if the moon is full you may not
> even need a headlight to see what is ahead. Other places I wouldn't
> even think of it. I found it interesting the Schwinn when I bought my
> bike basically said in the owners manual don't ride at night or in the
> wet. Ive done both many many times and likely will again lol
>

In the south US, riding at night or at dusk can be a nice alternative to
riding in the blazing hot sun. I don't ride where I am not very
familiar with the road. I also ride in the city and use my lights
almost always in blinkie mode. Usually, there's enough illumination
from streetlights and such.


 
Date: 08 Oct 2007 16:56:08
From: Bellsouth Ijit 2.0 - Global Warming Edition ®
Subject: Re: Watch out for road cracks!

"Mike Kruger" <MikeKr@mouse-potato.com > wrote in message
news:A%aOi.2684$y21.98@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net...
> Yet one more reminder to watch out for road cracks and uneven surface
> between lanes. This is from the sweep on the club ride I was on
> yesterday.
> "I was sweeping the ride, when Pat had a flat, I tried to catch up to the
> front group to let them know. When I crossed the white line (between the
> shoulder and car lanes) to pass the group, my wheel got caught in a crack
> and I came down hard on my left side elbow first. There was no swelling
> or much pain, I completed the ride staying with Bev. But I noticed
> decreasing mobility and increasing discomfort in the arm over time, this
> morning I went to the ER and was diagnosed with a radial head midline
> fracture. They put me in a sling and gave me the name of an ortho guy for
> follow up, the assumption is that it should heal on its own over several
> weeks. Meanwhile, restrict mobility and no weight bearing."
>
>
>
>
>

One big reason I try not to ride at night any more. Can't see as well as in
day time.




  
Date: 08 Oct 2007 14:24:15
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Watch out for road cracks!
Bellsouth Ijit 2.0 - Global Warming Edition ® wrote:
> "Mike Kruger" <MikeKr@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message
> news:A%aOi.2684$y21.98@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net...
>> Yet one more reminder to watch out for road cracks and uneven surface
>> between lanes. This is from the sweep on the club ride I was on
>> yesterday.
>> "I was sweeping the ride, when Pat had a flat, I tried to catch up
>> to the front group to let them know. When I crossed the white line
>> (between the shoulder and car lanes) to pass the group, my wheel got
>> caught in a crack and I came down hard on my left side elbow first. There
>> was no swelling or much pain, I completed the ride staying
>> with Bev. But I noticed decreasing mobility and increasing
>> discomfort in the arm over time, this morning I went to the ER and
>> was diagnosed with a radial head midline fracture. They put me in a
>> sling and gave me the name of an ortho guy for follow up, the
>> assumption is that it should heal on its own over several weeks.
>> Meanwhile, restrict mobility and no weight bearing."
>
> One big reason I try not to ride at night any more. Can't see as
> well as in day time.

Huh? This was in day time. Wasn't it?




   
Date: 08 Oct 2007 19:44:48
From: Mike Kruger
Subject: Re: Watch out for road cracks!
Bill Sornson wrote:
> Bellsouth Ijit 2.0 - Global Warming Edition ® wrote:
>> "Mike Kruger" <MikeKr@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message
>> news:A%aOi.2684$y21.98@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net...
>>> Yet one more reminder to watch out for road cracks and uneven
>>> surface between lanes. This is from the sweep on the club ride I
>>> was on yesterday.
>>> "I was sweeping the ride, when Pat had a flat, I tried to catch up
>>> to the front group to let them know. When I crossed the white line
>>> (between the shoulder and car lanes) to pass the group, my wheel got
>>> caught in a crack and I came down hard on my left side elbow first.
>>> There was no swelling or much pain, I completed the ride staying
>>> with Bev. But I noticed decreasing mobility and increasing
>>> discomfort in the arm over time, this morning I went to the ER and
>>> was diagnosed with a radial head midline fracture. They put me in a
>>> sling and gave me the name of an ortho guy for follow up, the
>>> assumption is that it should heal on its own over several weeks.
>>> Meanwhile, restrict mobility and no weight bearing."
>>
>> One big reason I try not to ride at night any more. Can't see as
>> well as in day time.
>
> Huh? This was in day time. Wasn't it?

Yes, Rebecca's accident occurred in broad daylight. But I know what
Bellsouth means. When I'm riding in the dark, I favor wider tires and more
flat-resistant designs. There's lots of stuff to look for, and it's harder
to see glass on the road or whether the cracks are deep.




    
Date: 08 Oct 2007 21:28:42
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Watch out for road cracks!
Mike Kruger wrote:
> Bill Sornson wrote:
>> Bellsouth Ijit 2.0 - Global Warming Edition ® wrote:
>>> "Mike Kruger" <MikeKr@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message
>>> news:A%aOi.2684$y21.98@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net...
>>>> Yet one more reminder to watch out for road cracks and uneven
>>>> surface between lanes. This is from the sweep on the club ride I
>>>> was on yesterday.
>>>> "I was sweeping the ride, when Pat had a flat, I tried to catch up
>>>> to the front group to let them know. When I crossed the white line
>>>> (between the shoulder and car lanes) to pass the group, my wheel
>>>> got caught in a crack and I came down hard on my left side elbow
>>>> first. There was no swelling or much pain, I completed the ride
>>>> staying with Bev. But I noticed decreasing mobility and increasing
>>>> discomfort in the arm over time, this morning I went to the ER and
>>>> was diagnosed with a radial head midline fracture. They put me in
>>>> a sling and gave me the name of an ortho guy for follow up, the
>>>> assumption is that it should heal on its own over several weeks.
>>>> Meanwhile, restrict mobility and no weight bearing."
>>>
>>> One big reason I try not to ride at night any more. Can't see as
>>> well as in day time.
>>
>> Huh? This was in day time. Wasn't it?
>
> Yes, Rebecca's accident occurred in broad daylight. But I know what
> Bellsouth means. When I'm riding in the dark, I favor wider tires
> and more flat-resistant designs. There's lots of stuff to look for,
> and it's harder to see glass on the road or whether the cracks are
> deep.

I've yet to do a night road ride, but want to some day just to see what it's
like. (I have ridden home from some night mountain bike rides on the road,
but fairly short distances.) One thing's for sure: I'd do it on a route I
know very well.

Bill "blinkies" S.




     
Date: 09 Oct 2007 03:33:39
From: Bellsouth Ijit 2.0 - Global Warming Edition ®
Subject: Re: Watch out for road cracks!

"Bill Sornson" <askme@ask.me > wrote in message
news:470b0382$0$24268$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Mike Kruger wrote:
>> Bill Sornson wrote:
>>> Bellsouth Ijit 2.0 - Global Warming Edition ® wrote:
>>>> "Mike Kruger" <MikeKr@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:A%aOi.2684$y21.98@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net...
>>>>> Yet one more reminder to watch out for road cracks and uneven
>>>>> surface between lanes. This is from the sweep on the club ride I
>>>>> was on yesterday.
>>>>> "I was sweeping the ride, when Pat had a flat, I tried to catch up
>>>>> to the front group to let them know. When I crossed the white line
>>>>> (between the shoulder and car lanes) to pass the group, my wheel
>>>>> got caught in a crack and I came down hard on my left side elbow
>>>>> first. There was no swelling or much pain, I completed the ride
>>>>> staying with Bev. But I noticed decreasing mobility and increasing
>>>>> discomfort in the arm over time, this morning I went to the ER and
>>>>> was diagnosed with a radial head midline fracture. They put me in
>>>>> a sling and gave me the name of an ortho guy for follow up, the
>>>>> assumption is that it should heal on its own over several weeks.
>>>>> Meanwhile, restrict mobility and no weight bearing."
>>>>
>>>> One big reason I try not to ride at night any more. Can't see as
>>>> well as in day time.
>>>
>>> Huh? This was in day time. Wasn't it?
>>
>> Yes, Rebecca's accident occurred in broad daylight. But I know what
>> Bellsouth means. When I'm riding in the dark, I favor wider tires
>> and more flat-resistant designs. There's lots of stuff to look for,
>> and it's harder to see glass on the road or whether the cracks are
>> deep.
>
> I've yet to do a night road ride, but want to some day just to see what
> it's like. (I have ridden home from some night mountain bike rides on the
> road, but fairly short distances.) One thing's for sure: I'd do it on a
> route I know very well.
>
> Bill "blinkies" S.
>

Try it. For me, it's anxiety-causing. Although, one thing I have to say
about night riding is that you do (or at least I do) focus only on the road
in front of you, which is a good thing. It's not like you can get
distracted by the scenery, a hot chick, or a funny-looking dog. But IME
reduced visibility really makes it more dangerous to a point where it is not
just rewarding to ride. To each his own and his comfort level.




 
Date: 07 Oct 2007 15:01:35
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Watch out for road cracks!
Mike Kruger wrote:
> Yet one more reminder to watch out for road cracks and uneven surface
> between lanes. This is from the sweep on the club ride I was on
> yesterday. "I was sweeping the ride, when Pat had a flat, I tried to
> catch up to the front group to let them know. When I crossed the
> white line (between the shoulder and car lanes) to pass the group, my
> wheel got caught in a crack and I came down hard on my left side
> elbow first. There was no swelling or much pain, I completed the
> ride staying with Bev. But I noticed decreasing mobility and
> increasing discomfort in the arm over time, this morning I went to
> the ER and was diagnosed with a radial head midline fracture. They
> put me in a sling and gave me the name of an ortho guy for follow up,
> the assumption is that it should heal on its own over several weeks.
> Meanwhile, restrict mobility and no weight bearing."

Damn. That fast. Boom. Ouch.

Let the healing begin!

Bill S.




  
Date: 08 Oct 2007 16:29:00
From: Dane Buson
Subject: Re: Watch out for road cracks!
Bill Sornson <askme@ask.me > wrote:
> Mike Kruger wrote:
>> Yet one more reminder to watch out for road cracks and uneven surface
>> between lanes. This is from the sweep on the club ride I was on
>> yesterday. "I was sweeping the ride, when Pat had a flat, I tried to
>> catch up to the front group to let them know. When I crossed the
>> white line (between the shoulder and car lanes) to pass the group, my
>> wheel got caught in a crack and I came down hard on my left side
>> elbow first. There was no swelling or much pain, I completed the
>> ride staying with Bev. But I noticed decreasing mobility and
>> increasing discomfort in the arm over time, this morning I went to
>> the ER and was diagnosed with a radial head midline fracture. They
>> put me in a sling and gave me the name of an ortho guy for follow up,
>> the assumption is that it should heal on its own over several weeks.
>> Meanwhile, restrict mobility and no weight bearing."
>
> Damn. That fast. Boom. Ouch.

I was next to someone who ate it on a turn like that. She went down
super fast. She was a tad concussed but otherwise okay. Her front
wheel looked like an explosion in a generator factory.

--
Dane Buson - sigdane@unixbigots.org
"He's dead, Jim. You grab his wallet,
I'll grab his tricorder."


   
Date: 08 Oct 2007 21:24:42
From: Bill Sornson
Subject: Re: Watch out for road cracks!
Dane Buson wrote:
> Bill Sornson <askme@ask.me> wrote:
>> Mike Kruger wrote:
>>> Yet one more reminder to watch out for road cracks and uneven
>>> surface between lanes. This is from the sweep on the club ride I
>>> was on yesterday. "I was sweeping the ride, when Pat had a flat, I
>>> tried to catch up to the front group to let them know. When I
>>> crossed the white line (between the shoulder and car lanes) to pass
>>> the group, my wheel got caught in a crack and I came down hard on
>>> my left side elbow first. There was no swelling or much pain, I
>>> completed the ride staying with Bev. But I noticed decreasing
>>> mobility and increasing discomfort in the arm over time, this
>>> morning I went to the ER and was diagnosed with a radial head
>>> midline fracture. They put me in a sling and gave me the name of
>>> an ortho guy for follow up, the assumption is that it should heal
>>> on its own over several weeks. Meanwhile, restrict mobility and no
>>> weight bearing."
>>
>> Damn. That fast. Boom. Ouch.
>
> I was next to someone who ate it on a turn like that. She went down
> super fast. She was a tad concussed but otherwise okay. Her front
> wheel looked like an explosion in a generator factory.

Hate to say it but that's exactly why I wear a helmet. Catch the front
wheel or lose the front tire, and WHAM. Why crack open your skull
unnecessarily?

Bill "easier to live with a broken elbow" S.




    
Date: 10 Oct 2007 17:37:25
From: David Horwitt
Subject: Re: Watch out for road cracks!
Bill Sornson wrote:
> Dane Buson wrote:
>
>>Bill Sornson <askme@ask.me> wrote:
>>
>>
>>I was next to someone who ate it on a turn like that. She went down
>>super fast. She was a tad concussed but otherwise okay. Her front
>>wheel looked like an explosion in a generator factory.
>
>
> Hate to say it but that's exactly why I wear a helmet. Catch the front
> wheel or lose the front tire, and WHAM. Why crack open your skull
> unnecessarily?
>
> Bill "easier to live with a broken elbow" S.
>
>

Oh, great, now you've turned it into another elbow pad debate!

DH


 
Date: 07 Oct 2007 14:42:40
From:
Subject: Re: Watch out for road cracks!
On Oct 8, 6:07 am, "Mike Kruger" <Mik...@mouse-potato.com > wrote:
> Yet one more reminder to watch out for road cracks and uneven surface
> between lanes. This is from the sweep on the club ride I was on yesterday.
> "I was sweeping the ride, when Pat had a flat, I tried to catch up to the
> front group to let them know. When I crossed the white line (between the
> shoulder and car lanes) to pass the group, my wheel got caught in a crack
> and I came down hard on my left side elbow first. There was no swelling or
> much pain, I completed the ride staying with Bev. But I noticed decreasing
> mobility and increasing discomfort in the arm over time, this morning I went
> to the ER and was diagnosed with a radial head midline fracture. They put
> me in a sling and gave me the name of an ortho guy for follow up, the
> assumption is that it should heal on its own over several weeks. Meanwhile,
> restrict mobility and no weight bearing."

I thought this was going to be about well-worn lycra shorts. Get
well ;-)