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Date: 29 Sep 2007 13:09:48
From: Jorg Lueke
Subject: What I think is Funny about Bikers versus Motorists
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The local papers and radio shows were abuzz with all kind of witty
oberservations about motorists and bicyclists recently. The reason
was a altercation at the August critical mass ride where the cops
arrested a few people. The funny thing is that everyone acts like
these two groups of people are different in any way. Most people are
generally cool, some people are pricks, and motorists and bicyclists
are people. But no we need weeks of psychoanalysis about inattentive
motorists or agressive cyclists. Sheesh!
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Date: 08 Oct 2007 07:52:26
From: Jorg Lueke
Subject: Re: What I think is Funny about Bikers versus Motorists
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On Oct 7, 11:04 am, tkeats2...@hotmail.com (Tom Keats) wrote:
> In article <1191096588.361386.28...@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>,
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> What exactly /is/ an "agressive" cyclist?
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In the context of my post the agressive cyclist like the agressive
motorist is the kind of person who thinks of themselves and causes
problem regardless of the rules of the road. The most common form of
this behavior I've seen from cyclists is not respecting traffic
signals and the right of way of motorists and pedestrians.
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Date: 07 Oct 2007 03:04:12
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: What I think is Funny about Bikers versus Motorists
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In article <1191096588.361386.28280@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com >,
Jorg Lueke <jlueke_2000@yahoo.com > writes:
> The local papers and radio shows were abuzz with all kind of witty
> oberservations about motorists and bicyclists recently. The reason
> was a altercation at the August critical mass ride where the cops
> arrested a few people. The funny thing is that everyone acts like
> these two groups of people are different in any way. Most people are
> generally cool, some people are pricks, and motorists and bicyclists
> are people. But no we need weeks of psychoanalysis about inattentive
> motorists or agressive cyclists. Sheesh!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
What exactly /is/ an "agressive" cyclist?
I suppose in some perceptions, I might be considered
an agressive cyclist -- I tend to "time" my moves (e.g:
if I'm crossing a busy intersection, I tend to start
going while the last car is clearing the intersection
I want to cross, so I have that momentum from a dead stop,
to make it across before the next wave of cross traffic.
The driver of that last car sees me start to move and
freaks out, like I'm on a rocket-bike about to shoot into
his passenger-side front door. Grrrrrr.
Timing is everything, and there's always that one,
2-left-footed person there to fsck-up what would
otherwise be an elegant maneouver.
I used to be a 2-left-footed person, myself.
I'm not perfect. I can relate.
Oh, well.
One of my favourite notables is:
it's a rainy, stormy day. I'm out in the elements,
in my non-traditional, dorky raingear. Some folks
would consider it suffering. And the car drivers,
in their warm, dry, climate-controlled rolling
living-rooms, get angry with me for being ... there,
in front of 'em and inconveniencing them. Here I
am, trying to deal with just gettin' around, and
/they're/ complaining about inconvenience to them,
and being mean to me about it!?
I guess you 'n I are "aggressive" for being in front
of 'em.
And the car drivers are passively innocent, because
everybody accepts car traffic as a societal norm.
So if you drive a car, you can gripe all ya want
about every human bean that impedes your desired
movements. Maybe even impatiently run 'em over,
if you have a good enough excuse. And a good enough
excuse is pretty easily consensused.
"Aggressive" cyclists -- phfffft!!!
cheers,
Tom
--
Nothing is safe from me.
I'm really at:
tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca
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Date: 07 Oct 2007 17:04:10
From: John Thompson
Subject: Re: What I think is Funny about Bikers versus Motorists
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On 2007-10-07, Tom Keats <tkeats2005@hotmail.com > wrote:
> What exactly /is/ an "agressive" cyclist?
One that doesn't ride on the sidewalk.
--
John (john@os2.dhs.org)
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