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Date: 20 Aug 2007 08:52:04
From: Prisoner at War
Subject: What Would You Do With A Bicycle Thief??
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Hey, Y'All:
I don't think there's a "serious" cyclist (centuries are nothing -- or
at least if they have rest stops every twenty-five miles) who hasn't
had a bike stolen from him or her. Right?
So we must all fantasize about what to do if we ever catch someone in
the act of stealing our beloved bicycles. But what would you do,
exactly?
I've always picture some scruffy young punk, whom I'd have to fight or
wrestle. I've always figured on different contexts and scenarios --
nighttime, witnesses, cohorts, etc. -- and have rehearsed various
strategies and tactics in my mind, with the caveat that any plan goes
out the window within three minutes of war....
So yesterday as I'm getting ready to leave a favorite restaurant, just
before paying, I see my bike walking away! There's a nice big bay
window and I have a good vantage point and am not far from the door,
so I'd left my bike upside down (on the hardest to peddle gears, too
[BTW, would that be high-gear or low??), since my lock had broken and
I hadn't figured on being hungry...so anyway, I never let the bike out
of my sight during all the time I'm eating -- and I've done this many
times before, at this place and else where, to no incident -- but as
I'm ready to leave I see my bike magically walking off!
I walk briskly out the door right into the little man walking my
bike! And it so shocked me that this was some little almost-middle-
aged (early forties?) Chinese guy with glasses! Some Third World FOB-
type munchkin! I was outraged but much more shocked, such that my
anger was practically canceled out!
I asked him something like "WTF are you doing?" and chink-chong goes
something like, "oh, this bike wasn't locked" so I'm like "So you
fucking take it?!?!?" and chink-chong says "solly, solly" and walks
away quickly (as I'd grabbed the bike by now)!
I don't know why, but I'd wanted to pay my restaurant bill right away,
lest it looks like I'm not going to do it (even though, duh, like I
said, it's an old favorite and they know me there), so I didn't give
chase. Later on, I'd caught up with the chink-chong-man-boy ('cause
he's so short and has a boyish face under the U.S. Army field cap!)
and he just goes "solly, boss, okay," smiling that embarrassed, but
slightly greasy-feeling Chinese smile (I'm Chinese so I know about
these things), the kind that says, haha, you got me, nice game....
By then I was not angry anymore, just annoyed. Now is that fucking
weird or what? I'd always thought I'd knee some spigger in the nose,
but instead it turns out to be a short bespectacled chink FOB!! And I
was actually at a loss as to what to do...I didn't feel like striking
him at the time, though of course thinking back I'm angry at the sheer
audacity of this little Third World street scum (probably illegal too,
fucking little gook).
So what would you do if you caught a bike thief? Funny, but the one
thing I'd never ever factored into my calculations was the possibility
that I wouldn't be murderously angry! I absolutely can't believe it.
(What's even more funny -- from a human psychology POV -- is that
later on in the day I totally blew up at my landlord, who started
arguing with me about a little unimportant matter relating to his
building, telling him to go fuck himself!)
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Date: 11 Sep 2007 10:59:14
From: Prisoner at War
Subject: Re: What Would You Do With A Bicycle Thief??
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On Aug 27, 12:30 pm, "fltchrp...@gmail.com" <fltchrp...@gmail.com >
wrote:
> Chinese or not, you do yourself a disservice by being a bigot.
I don't see what the problem is. There are certain behavioral
patterns which often correlate with certain groups. Women tend to be
a certain way, hispanics tend to be a certain way, Republicans tend to
be a certain way, bicyclists tend to be a certain way, etc.
> on a much different note:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7zb8YXrmIA- Here is a video from
> youtube about a guy stealing his own bike in NYC to see what happens.
> This may have already gotten around the forum but I'm too lazy to
> search for it in the archives. And anyways, its worth watching again
> and there may be some new readers.
It's a great video, and particularly hilarious when what appears to be
a passer-by even tries to help him break the lock!
> My only crit on this video is the situation in which he is stealing
> the bikes (i.e. rush hour) is almost too absurd for him to be anyone
> but the owner. Though there are other reports of public indifference
> to crime in progress (e.g. the murder of Kitty Genovese:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitty_Genovese- this is a more
> conservative version that the one that is usually reported. What
> really happened is probably somewhere between the two.) Getting
> OT...The important part is the video, I dont want to start some long
> thread about Kitty Genovese.
Indeed -- what would you do if you caught a bicycle thief,
particularly not one stealing your bike???
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Date: 11 Sep 2007 10:54:49
From: Prisoner at War
Subject: Re: What Would You Do With A Bicycle Thief??
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On Aug 26, 5:01 pm, tkeats2...@hotmail.com (Tom Keats) wrote:
>
>
> It sounded a little put-on, South Carolina/Andy Griffith/Goober
> to me.
I don't know where I got it from...just seems like the thing to say.
> I'm a little bit partly Chinese myself. Not enough to
> show very much, but the DNA is there. Culturally I'm
> just a Vancouver East Ender.
Culturally I'm just an old-fashioned eye-for-an-eye kind of guy.
> This actually is an interesting question, but I'd
> expand it to: "What would be an appropriate punishment &
> rehab for a bike thief?"
Rehab would be a few weeks in intensive care at the hospital.
Appropriate punishment would be anything inducing such a stay.
> Bearing in mind, some thieves steal the bike in order
> to having something to ride, some to sell the whole
> bike for crack money, and some for the metal (to sell
> for crack money.) So in some cases the question becomes:
> "What do you do with a desperate crackhead?" And in
> some cases the question becomes: "Whaddaya do about a
> poor bugger who needs a bike?"
What are you, a lawyer??
Another question would be what to do about kids...I once had some kids
hanging out by my unlocked bike, and after about fifteen minutes one
of them decides to touch it.
> Being a victim of bike theft is horrible, and can leave
> one with all sorts of bitter feelings and revenge fantasies
> about hanging bike thieves by their thumbs from telephone poles,
> with "Bike Theef" signs hung around their necks. But that's
> way too overboard.
Is it? I think way overboard is shit where cops laugh at you for
having a stolen bike. I once caught another bike thief, and called
the cops, who showed up only to laugh it off and leave. Now I know
that I can only count on myself to exact vengeance -- and I mustn't be
caught! I have a mind to start carrying firecrackers around to toss
into cars that try to throw me off my bike or something...once this
kid kept shouting out his window every time I passed by their car,
which would be stopped by the traffic light. I wish I had a
firecracker to toss in and blow up the kid's face or something (one
for the adult driver, too, actually, who wasn't doing anything to stop
the brat).
I seem to be a great bike rider and no kids' pranks have unsettled me
off my saddle yet, but I'm pissed off at the sheer audacity of these
brats. I don't think it's overboard for them to be maimed for life in
order to teach them -- and, more importantly, others -- a lesson.
Frankly, they should chop off the hands of graffiti sleazebags....
> I think a lot of bike thieves could benefit from being
> sent to work camp or Outward Bound for a while, out in
> the wilderness where there are no bikes to steal, and
> no crack. Maybe a little mj or some really good,
> unadulterated hash, just to tide them over. Or put
> them to work building a boat.
Put them to work digging limestone or mining coal, I say.
> I opine a lot of criminal behaviour stems from crooks
> never having had the opportunity to enjoy the pleasurable
> aspects of creativity, so they have an ignorance of appreciation
> for creativity. Doing creative & constructive work where
> tangible results of which one can be proud are obtained, is a
> great educator. Kinda like Bridge on the River Kwai.
Yes, true...but punishment should be vindictive, too. Maybe not for
first-time offenders, but I think a lot of these career criminals
deserve "hard" time, not simply arts and crafts.
> To a bike thief, a bike is a mere chattle. To the
> bike owner, however, the bike is so much more.
> Bike thieves need to learn the true extents & natures
> of their offenses. Even if has to be pounded into 'em
> through their thick skulls. In a humanity-loving manner,
> of course.
I don't know what's "humanity-loving"...I just know that I'm sick of
living in a society where things don't make sense. The great thing
about blood and violence is that it is perfectly logical.
> In the long run, I guess as long as there are bikes,
> there'll be people to steal 'em. Life goes on. Oh, well.
The trick is how to exact physical vengeance without consequences...if
every single bicyclist goes on a rampage, you can be sure that
bicyclists would have more "respect" (namely, fear)....
> cheers,
> Tom
>
> --
> Nothing is safe from me.
> I'm really at:
> tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca
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Date: 11 Sep 2007 10:41:42
From: Prisoner at War
Subject: Re: What Would You Do With A Bicycle Thief??
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On Aug 26, 11:06 pm, Kenny <Postoas...@gmail.com > wrote:
> If I saw a bike turned upside down and unlocked my first impression
> would be that this bike has been abandoned.
Now that's really weird...'cause apparently this little dwarf FOB
claimed just such a thing...I had asked him something like "What are
you doing with my bike?!?!" and his stammered response was like "it
had no lock"....
I dunno, I guess to some people an unlocked bike is the same as a
hundred dollar bill just laying on the floor...???
> A friend of mine (a
> Catholic Priest) once saw a cheap-o mtb with the seat post missing. He
> thought the bike was abandoned so he took the bike home.
A priest, eh? Fuckers are always thinking shit comes to them for
free, don't they.
> He found out
> later that the bike belonged to someone and that the missing seat post
> was an anti-theft measure. Now, if I caught someone using bolt cutters
> on my lock.......
Well, just what would you do? I'd always thought I'd hit the guy real
hard in the head with something, or gouge his eyes out, or at least
break his nose...something violent and bloody, for sure -- until this
little chink just blinked at me in surprise that the bike belonged to
me! You may be right: this Third World pig-farmer might not have
realized it was theft!
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Date: 11 Sep 2007 10:36:41
From: Prisoner at War
Subject: Re: What Would You Do With A Bicycle Thief??
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On Aug 26, 10:15 pm, e.fitzger...@illino.net wrote:
>
>
> Blacks will steal them. Jews will try to negotiate a deal.
LOL!!
In my case, it was a short Chinese FOB fellow...all my preparation for
the moment of confronting a bike thief just went out the door with my
utter shock that a little illegal immigrant-looking dwarf like him
would have the audacity to take a bike....
I had figured on bashing some city-slicker spigger -- maybe even
having to deal with some kike lawyer -- but not a lil' harmless-
looking gook, the kind that waves all friendly and wears
glasses...what was funny was that I had no desire to bash his face in,
even though "intellectually" I had long approved of such a response!
Weird....
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Date: 27 Aug 2007 16:30:21
From: fltchrprtt@gmail.com
Subject: Re: What Would You Do With A Bicycle Thief??
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Chinese or not, you do yourself a disservice by being a bigot.
on a much different note:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7zb8YXrmIA - Here is a video from
youtube about a guy stealing his own bike in NYC to see what happens.
This may have already gotten around the forum but I'm too lazy to
search for it in the archives. And anyways, its worth watching again
and there may be some new readers.
My only crit on this video is the situation in which he is stealing
the bikes (i.e. rush hour) is almost too absurd for him to be anyone
but the owner. Though there are other reports of public indifference
to crime in progress (e.g. the murder of Kitty Genovese:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitty_Genovese - this is a more
conservative version that the one that is usually reported. What
really happened is probably somewhere between the two.) Getting
OT...The important part is the video, I dont want to start some long
thread about Kitty Genovese.
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Date: 27 Aug 2007 03:30:28
From:
Subject: Re: What Would You Do With A Bicycle Thief??
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In rec.bicycles.misc Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com > wrote:
> I don't think there's a "serious" cyclist (centuries are nothing -- or >
at least if they have rest stops every twenty-five miles) who hasn't > had
a bike stolen from him or her. Right?
> So we must all fantasize about what to do if we ever catch someone in >
the act of stealing our beloved bicycles. But what would you do, >
exactly?
<SNIP, crossposting also snipped >
I've lost one bike (very long ago) and one bike trailer to thieves. I
think you let this clown get off VERY easy.
My first inclination would be to beat the crap out of him, which would
of course not leave much.
My experience with thieves tells me, though, that you would probably be
within your rights to use as much force as necessary to detain the thief
until the police can arrive. (I.E., if he stops when asked you don't lay
a hand on him; if he runs you can grab him or tackle him; if he resists
forcibly you can probably use force to subdue him.)* Overdo it and you
could be in trouble yourself.
Bill
* I'm not a lawyer. This is just what I have done myself in the past.TT
__o
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Date: 26 Aug 2007 20:06:14
From: Kenny
Subject: Re: What Would You Do With A Bicycle Thief??
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If I saw a bike turned upside down and unlocked my first impression
would be that this bike has been abandoned. A friend of mine (a
Catholic Priest) once saw a cheap-o mtb with the seat post missing. He
thought the bike was abandoned so he took the bike home. He found out
later that the bike belonged to someone and that the missing seat post
was an anti-theft measure. Now, if I caught someone using bolt cutters
on my lock.......
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Date: 28 Aug 2007 07:51:17
From: Al Key
Subject: Re: What Would You Do With A Bicycle Thief??
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On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 20:06:14 -0700, Kenny <Postoasted@gmail.com >
wrote:
>If I saw a bike turned upside down and unlocked my first impression
>would be that this bike has been abandoned. A friend of mine (a
>Catholic Priest) once saw a cheap-o mtb with the seat post missing. He
>thought the bike was abandoned so he took the bike home. He found out
>later that the bike belonged to someone and that the missing seat post
>was an anti-theft measure. Now, if I caught someone using bolt cutters
>on my lock.......
Considering Catholic priest's affinity for boys and young men one can
easily presume that their sexual orientation would find them delighted
to ride on the "seat post" rather than the seat. Don't you agree?
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Date: 28 Aug 2007 20:54:06
From: lurker@null.tld
Subject: Re: What Would You Do With A Bicycle Thief??
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On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 07:51:17 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com >
wrote:
>On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 20:06:14 -0700, Kenny <Postoasted@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>If I saw a bike turned upside down and unlocked my first impression
>>would be that this bike has been abandoned. A friend of mine (a
>>Catholic Priest) once saw a cheap-o mtb with the seat post missing. He
>>thought the bike was abandoned so he took the bike home. He found out
>>later that the bike belonged to someone and that the missing seat post
>>was an anti-theft measure. Now, if I caught someone using bolt cutters
>>on my lock.......
>
>
>Considering Catholic priest's affinity for boys and young men one can
>easily presume that their sexual orientation would find them delighted
>to ride on the "seat post" rather than the seat. Don't you agree?
I think they prefer the boys to sit on the post.
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Date: 29 Aug 2007 04:13:36
From: Al Key
Subject: Re: What Would You Do With A Bicycle Thief??
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On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 20:54:06 -0400, The Lurker (lurker@null.tld)
wrote:
>On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 07:51:17 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 20:06:14 -0700, Kenny <Postoasted@gmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>If I saw a bike turned upside down and unlocked my first impression
>>>would be that this bike has been abandoned. A friend of mine (a
>>>Catholic Priest) once saw a cheap-o mtb with the seat post missing. He
>>>thought the bike was abandoned so he took the bike home. He found out
>>>later that the bike belonged to someone and that the missing seat post
>>>was an anti-theft measure. Now, if I caught someone using bolt cutters
>>>on my lock.......
>>
>>
>>Considering Catholic priest's affinity for boys and young men one can
>>easily presume that their sexual orientation would find them delighted
>>to ride on the "seat post" rather than the seat. Don't you agree?
>
>I think they prefer the boys to sit on the post.
Homosexual males, based on the HIV/AIDS cases in the US appear to
take as well as give.
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Date: 28 Aug 2007 18:59:35
From: Joeseph P. Blow
Subject: Re: What Would You Do With A Bicycle Thief??
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On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 07:51:17 GMT, Al Key <alkeeeee@teranews.com >
wrote:
>On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 20:06:14 -0700, Kenny <Postoasted@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>If I saw a bike turned upside down and unlocked my first impression
>>would be that this bike has been abandoned. A friend of mine (a
>>Catholic Priest)
Heh
>> once saw a cheap-o mtb with the seat post missing. He
>>thought the bike was abandoned so he took the bike home. He found out
>>later that the bike belonged to someone and that the missing seat post
>>was an anti-theft measure. Now, if I caught someone using bolt cutters
>>on my lock.......
>
>
>Considering Catholic priest's affinity for boys and young men one can
>easily presume that their sexual orientation would find them delighted
>to ride on the "seat post" rather than the seat. Don't you agree?
No, they'd tend to stick their little dicks in the hole vacated by the
seat post.
--
Just your average Joe
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Date: 26 Aug 2007 14:01:33
From: Tom Keats
Subject: Re: What Would You Do With A Bicycle Thief??
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In article <d1ae5$46d1b770$d8fea483$11812@primus.ca >,
"Marc Wigle" <mwigle@magma.ca > writes:
> "Prisoner at War" <prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1187625124.290489.289990@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Hey, Y'All:
>
> You're from Brooklyn... right?
It sounded a little put-on, South Carolina/Andy Griffith/Goober
to me.
>> I don't know why, but I'd wanted to pay my restaurant bill right away,
>> lest it looks like I'm not going to do it (even though, duh, like I
>> said, it's an old favorite and they know me there), so I didn't give
>> chase. Later on, I'd caught up with the chink-chong-man-boy ('cause
>> he's so short and has a boyish face under the U.S. Army field cap!)
>> and he just goes "solly, boss, okay," smiling that embarrassed, but
>> slightly greasy-feeling Chinese smile (I'm Chinese so I know about
>> these things), the kind that says, haha, you got me, nice game....
>>
>
> You're Chinese? Really? You just sound like a dork.
I'm a little bit partly Chinese myself. Not enough to
show very much, but the DNA is there. Culturally I'm
just a Vancouver East Ender.
>> So what would you do if you caught a bike thief?
This actually is an interesting question, but I'd
expand it to: "What would be an appropriate punishment &
rehab for a bike thief?"
Bearing in mind, some thieves steal the bike in order
to having something to ride, some to sell the whole
bike for crack money, and some for the metal (to sell
for crack money.) So in some cases the question becomes:
"What do you do with a desperate crackhead?" And in
some cases the question becomes: "Whaddaya do about a
poor bugger who needs a bike?"
Being a victim of bike theft is horrible, and can leave
one with all sorts of bitter feelings and revenge fantasies
about hanging bike thieves by their thumbs from telephone poles,
with "Bike Theef" signs hung around their necks. But that's
way too overboard.
I think a lot of bike thieves could benefit from being
sent to work camp or Outward Bound for a while, out in
the wilderness where there are no bikes to steal, and
no crack. Maybe a little mj or some really good,
unadulterated hash, just to tide them over. Or put
them to work building a boat.
I opine a lot of criminal behaviour stems from crooks
never having had the opportunity to enjoy the pleasurable
aspects of creativity, so they have an ignorance of appreciation
for creativity. Doing creative & constructive work where
tangible results of which one can be proud are obtained, is a
great educator. Kinda like Bridge on the River Kwai.
To a bike thief, a bike is a mere chattle. To the
bike owner, however, the bike is so much more.
Bike thieves need to learn the true extents & natures
of their offenses. Even if has to be pounded into 'em
through their thick skulls. In a humanity-loving manner,
of course.
In the long run, I guess as long as there are bikes,
there'll be people to steal 'em. Life goes on. Oh, well.
cheers,
Tom
--
Nothing is safe from me.
I'm really at:
tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca
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Date: 27 Aug 2007 02:15:59
From:
Subject: Re: What Would You Do With A Bicycle Thief??
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On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 14:01:33 -0700, tkeats2005@hotmail.com (Tom Keats)
wrote:
>In the long run, I guess as long as there are bikes,
>there'll be people to steal 'em. Life goes on. Oh, well.
Blacks will steal them. Jews will try to negotiate a deal.
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Date: 26 Aug 2007 13:24:59
From: Marc Wigle
Subject: Re: What Would You Do With A Bicycle Thief??
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"Prisoner at War" <prisoner_at_war@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1187625124.290489.289990@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> Hey, Y'All:
You're from Brooklyn... right?
> I don't know why, but I'd wanted to pay my restaurant bill right away,
> lest it looks like I'm not going to do it (even though, duh, like I
> said, it's an old favorite and they know me there), so I didn't give
> chase. Later on, I'd caught up with the chink-chong-man-boy ('cause
> he's so short and has a boyish face under the U.S. Army field cap!)
> and he just goes "solly, boss, okay," smiling that embarrassed, but
> slightly greasy-feeling Chinese smile (I'm Chinese so I know about
> these things), the kind that says, haha, you got me, nice game....
>
You're Chinese? Really? You just sound like a dork.
> So what would you do if you caught a bike thief? Funny, but the one
> thing I'd never ever factored into my calculations was the possibility
> that I wouldn't be murderously angry! I absolutely can't believe it.
>
You were thinking about murdering someone cause they stole your bike?? I can
just see you in Sing Sing when Brutus asks you what you're in for... "I
killed a guy cause he stole my Sears' 10 speed..." You'll be at the top of
the prison hierarchy for sure.
> (What's even more funny -- from a human psychology POV -- is that
> later on in the day I totally blew up at my landlord, who started
> arguing with me about a little unimportant matter relating to his
> building, telling him to go fuck himself!)
Not paying your rent on time again? You're right, that "a little unimportant
matter".
Why don't you go adust your training wheels and ask mommy to watch you ride
your bike... dumbass.
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Date: 20 Aug 2007 19:40:12
From: Leo Lichtman
Subject: Re: What Would You Do With A Bicycle Thief??
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"Prisoner at War" wrote: (clip) chink-chong goes
> something like, "oh, this bike wasn't locked" (clip) he just goes "solly,
> boss, okay," smiling that embarrassed, but slightly greasy-feeling Chinese
> smile (I'm Chinese so I know about these things), (clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You're too stupid to write fiction. I'm Chinese too, and so is my neighbor,
Jose Gonzales, and my other neighbor, Hans Schmidt.
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Date: 20 Aug 2007 09:09:03
From: AustinMN
Subject: Re: What Would You Do With A Bicycle Thief??
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On Aug 20, 10:52 am, Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_...@yahoo.com >
wrote:
> So we must all fantasize about what to do if we ever catch someone in
> the act of stealing our beloved bicycles. But what would you do,
> exactly?
Ding...ding...troll-o-meter is rising...
<snip >
> I walk briskly out the door right into the little man walking my
> bike! And it so shocked me that this was some little almost-middle-
> aged (early forties?) Chinese guy with glasses! Some Third World FOB-
> type munchkin!
Troll-o-meter is really buzzing...
> I asked him something like "WTF are you doing?" and chink-chong goes
> something like, "oh, this bike wasn't locked" so I'm like "So you
> fucking take it?!?!?" and chink-chong says "solly, solly" and walks
> away quickly (as I'd grabbed the bike by now)!
Full alarm.
Incident may have happened, but selection of vocabulary is intended to
inflame. Have a nice day.
Austin
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Date: 20 Aug 2007 12:39:05
From: Zen Cohen
Subject: Re: What Would You Do With A Bicycle Thief??
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"AustinMN" <tacooper260@hotmail.com > wrote in message ...
> On Aug 20, 10:52 am, Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>> So we must all fantasize about what to do if we ever catch someone in
>> the act of stealing our beloved bicycles. But what would you do,
>> exactly?
>
> Ding...ding...troll-o-meter is rising...
>
> <snip>
>
>> I walk briskly out the door right into the little man walking my
>> bike! And it so shocked me that this was some little almost-middle-
>> aged (early forties?) Chinese guy with glasses! Some Third World FOB-
>> type munchkin!
>
> Troll-o-meter is really buzzing...
>
>> I asked him something like "WTF are you doing?" and chink-chong goes
>> something like, "oh, this bike wasn't locked" so I'm like "So you
>> fucking take it?!?!?" and chink-chong says "solly, solly" and walks
>> away quickly (as I'd grabbed the bike by now)!
>
> Full alarm.
>
> Incident may have happened, but selection of vocabulary is intended to
> inflame. Have a nice day.
This is typical of his posts to misc.fitness.weights. The words are
inflammatory but I don't think there's a troll-like intent to inflame. He's
abrasive and offensive, but just competely clueless about it.
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