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Date: 20 Jul 2007 07:07:48
From: Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
Subject: What is the generic name?
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Questions from a Merkin in the Colonies [1]:
What is the generic name for this type of bike:
<http://www.pashley.co.uk/products/delibike.html >?
How are they to ride, or would a city type bike with bucket panniers
make a better utility bike?
Does anyone export them to North America? For some reason I want one [2].
[1] As "Legs Larry" might put it.
[2] Must be from watching 3-decade old "Open All Hours" reruns.
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Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 11:20:30
From: landotter
Subject: Re: What is the generic name?
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On Jul 20, 7:07 am, Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
<sunsetss0...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Questions from a Merkin in the Colonies [1]:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkin
A colony of what??1!
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 13:46:39
From: Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: What is the generic name?
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"landotter" the Swede wrote:
> On Jul 20, 7:07 am, Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
> <sunsetss0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Questions from a Merkin in the Colonies [1]:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkin
>
> A colony of what??1!
"Merkin" is now widely used on Usenet to designate Americans (especially
by non-Americans): <http://alt-usage-english.org/excerpts/fxmerkin.html >
(last sentence on page).
Please keep your mind out of the gutter. ;)
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Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
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Date: 23 Jul 2007 13:35:05
From: coyoteboy
Subject: Re: What is the generic name?
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Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:
> "landotter" the Swede wrote:
>> On Jul 20, 7:07 am, Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
>> <sunsetss0...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Questions from a Merkin in the Colonies [1]:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkin
>>
>> A colony of what??1!
>
> "Merkin" is now widely used on Usenet to designate Americans (especially
> by non-Americans): <http://alt-usage-english.org/excerpts/fxmerkin.html>
> (last sentence on page).
>
> Please keep your mind out of the gutter. ;)
>
Must admit that was my first thought when Merkin was mentioned.
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 15:19:36
From: Simon Brooke
Subject: Re: What is the generic name?
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in message <46a0996d$0$16398$88260bb3@free.teranews.com >, Johnny Sunset aka
Tom Sherman ('sunsetss0003@yahoo.com') wrote:
> Questions from a Merkin in the Colonies [1]:
>
> What is the generic name for this type of bike:
> <http://www.pashley.co.uk/products/delibike.html>?
>
> How are they to ride, or would a city type bike with bucket panniers
> make a better utility bike?
That style is generally known as a 'butcher's bike'.
They're quite heavy - not good for hilly terrain. But on the flat they
handle fine. Good for making large numbers of small deliveries (or,
equally, for buying small purchases in a number of shops).
The Royal Mail use a more modern-looking version of the same thing, also
made by Pashley: http://www.pashley.co.uk/products/mailstar.html
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simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
;; It's dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.
;; Voltaire RIP Dr David Kelly 1945-2004
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 15:07:13
From: Luigi de Guzman
Subject: Re: What is the generic name?
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On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 06:45:41 -0700, POHB wrote:
>
> Trades Bike. When I were a lad my mate's family ran a newsagents and
> had a bunch of these for deliveries. Great for carrying a heavy
> fishing box, or one of your mates. Those ones were black and
> seriously built to last, even if they're in landfill now I bet they'd
> still be rideable with a squirt of oil on the chain. The carrier made
> a good battering ram for random acts of vandalism and stupidity such
> as bike jousting.
I should also add that, at least when I was last in Blighty, bikes like
this commanded a pretty good price in the second-hand cycle market, which
reflects their value as tools as well as their remarkable durability.
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Luigi de Guzman
http://ouij.livejournal.com
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 07:20:33
From: mt99999@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: What is the generic name?
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On Jul 20, 1:07 pm, Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
<sunsetss0...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Questions from a Merkin in the Colonies [1]:
>
> What is the generic name for this type of bike:
> <http://www.pashley.co.uk/products/delibike.html>?
>
> How are they to ride, or would a city type bike with bucket panniers
> make a better utility bike?
delivery bike or (as others have said, butchers or bakers bike.
Don't Pashley have a US distributor?
I hope to inherit one one day from my father-in-law. My wife used to
ride in the basket when it belonged to his step father
best wishes
james
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 14:59:36
From: Rob Morley
Subject: Re: What is the generic name?
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In article <46a0996d$0$16398$88260bb3@free.teranews.com >, Johnny Sunset
aka Tom Sherman
sunsetss0003@yahoo.com says...
> Questions from a Merkin in the Colonies [1]:
>
> What is the generic name for this type of bike:
> <http://www.pashley.co.uk/products/delibike.html>?
Tradesman's bike, carrier bike, butcher's bike ...
>
> How are they to ride,
OK if you only need three speed hub gears, and as long as you're not
carrying a heavy load down long steep hills: the brakes can get rather
hot, and the loaded weight distribution isn't optimal for braking. It's
a bit unnerving that the rack doesn't move when you turn the bars, and
that it hides the front wheel so you can't tell quite where that
rock/pothole is.
> or would a city type bike with bucket panniers
> make a better utility bike?
Depends what you're using it for. Why did you choose that one over the
Pashley Pronto or Courier?
>
> Does anyone export them to North America? For some reason I want one [2].
Apparently these people import Pashleys:
http://www.northroadbicycle.com/us.html
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 09:18:52
From: Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: What is the generic name?
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Rob Morley wrote:
> ...
> Depends what you're using it [Pashley Delibike] for. Why did you choose
> that one over the Pashley Pronto or Courier?...
The modern style of the Pronto and Courier is less appealing than the
traditional Delibike and Courier Classic. The Delibike appears to be the
better choice for bulky items, since the small front wheel allows for a
deeper front basket.
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Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
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Date: 22 Jul 2007 08:02:51
From: Rob Morley
Subject: Re: What is the generic name?
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In article <46a0b826$0$16302$88260bb3@free.teranews.com >, Johnny Sunset
aka Tom Sherman
sunsetss0003@yahoo.com says...
> Rob Morley wrote:
> > ...
> > Depends what you're using it [Pashley Delibike] for. Why did you choose
> > that one over the Pashley Pronto or Courier?...
>
> The modern style of the Pronto and Courier is less appealing than the
> traditional Delibike and Courier Classic. The Delibike appears to be the
> better choice for bulky items, since the small front wheel allows for a
> deeper front basket.
>
I'd tend to agree with both points. I wonder how the trade-off between
C-of-G and ride quality balances out - does the modern post bike work
better, or is it just more convenient to have same-size wheels? I guess
you're taking about heavier loads than the average postie carries.
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Date: 23 Jul 2007 21:07:03
From: Roger Merriman
Subject: Re: What is the generic name?
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Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com > wrote:
> In article <46a0b826$0$16302$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>, Johnny Sunset
> aka Tom Sherman
> sunsetss0003@yahoo.com says...
> > Rob Morley wrote:
> > > ...
> > > Depends what you're using it [Pashley Delibike] for. Why did you choose
> > > that one over the Pashley Pronto or Courier?...
> >
> > The modern style of the Pronto and Courier is less appealing than the
> > traditional Delibike and Courier Classic. The Delibike appears to be the
> > better choice for bulky items, since the small front wheel allows for a
> > deeper front basket.
> >
> I'd tend to agree with both points. I wonder how the trade-off between
> C-of-G and ride quality balances out - does the modern post bike work
> better, or is it just more convenient to have same-size wheels? I guess
> you're taking about heavier loads than the average postie carries.
be 16KG on the front maybe a few KG more as your not carring in but
using the bike, and maybe 10KG per the panniers.
ex postie though as hilly area never did it on bike.
roger
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www.rogermerriman.com
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Date: 24 Jul 2007 17:35:42
From: big_one
Subject: Re: What is the generic name?
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NEWS@wodger.demon.co.uk (Roger Merriman) wrote:
>be 16KG on the front maybe a few KG more as your not carring in but
>using the bike, and maybe 10KG per the panniers.
>
>ex postie though as hilly area never did it on bike.
>
>roger
I had hills :( & a bike :((
not alowed to take more then 16 on the front & 16 on the back
more often than not I went out with 25+ on both
that's not to say the ride was smooth ... but they'll take the weight
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Date: 25 Jul 2007 16:57:29
From: Roger Merriman
Subject: Re: What is the generic name?
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big_one <telaversion@fuckyou.co.uk > wrote:
> NEWS@wodger.demon.co.uk (Roger Merriman) wrote:
>
> >be 16KG on the front maybe a few KG more as your not carring in but
> >using the bike, and maybe 10KG per the panniers.
> >
> >ex postie though as hilly area never did it on bike.
> >
> >roger
>
> I had hills :( & a bike :((
> not alowed to take more then 16 on the front & 16 on the back
> more often than not I went out with 25+ on both
> that's not to say the ride was smooth ... but they'll take the weight
heh
must of had to do a few runs though? or get further bags dropped off?
50KG would be a fairly light round.
roger
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Date: 28 Jul 2007 19:40:32
From: big_one
Subject: Re: What is the generic name?
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NEWS@wodger.demon.co.uk (Roger Merriman) wrote:
>must of had to do a few runs though? or get further bags dropped off?
>50KG would be a fairly light round.
>
>roger
yea 5 more or so bags dropped off ... 50Kg would be a paper round
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 06:45:41
From: POHB
Subject: Re: What is the generic name?
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On 20 Jul, 13:07, Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
<sunsetss0...@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Questions from a Merkin in the Colonies [1]:
>
> What is the generic name for this type of bike:
> <http://www.pashley.co.uk/products/delibike.html>?
>
> How are they to ride, or would a city type bike with bucket panniers
> make a better utility bike?
Trades Bike. When I were a lad my mate's family ran a newsagents and
had a bunch of these for deliveries. Great for carrying a heavy
fishing box, or one of your mates. Those ones were black and
seriously built to last, even if they're in landfill now I bet they'd
still be rideable with a squirt of oil on the chain. The carrier made
a good battering ram for random acts of vandalism and stupidity such
as bike jousting.
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 13:37:28
From: Paul Boyd
Subject: Re: What is the generic name?
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Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman said the following on 20/07/2007 13:07:
> What is the generic name for this type of bike:
> <http://www.pashley.co.uk/products/delibike.html>?
Butcher's bike or tradesman's bike.
> How are they to ride, or would a city type bike with bucket panniers
> make a better utility bike?
No idea what they ride like, but only you can know why on earth you want
one :-)
Bucket panniers???
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Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 08:17:14
From: Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
Subject: Re: What is the generic name?
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Paul Boyd wrote:
> Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman said the following on 20/07/2007 13:07:
>
>> What is the generic name for this type of bike:
>> <http://www.pashley.co.uk/products/delibike.html>?
>
> Butcher's bike or tradesman's bike.
>
>> How are they to ride, or would a city type bike with bucket panniers
>> make a better utility bike?
>
> No idea what they ride like, but only you can know why on earth you want
> one :-)
All the best bicycles have a front wheel that is smaller than the back. ;)
> Bucket panniers???
See <http://www.cobbworks.com/ >.
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Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 14:13:55
From: Ace
Subject: Re: What is the generic name?
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On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 07:07:48 -0500, Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman
<sunsetss0003@yahoo.com > wrote:
>Questions from a Merkin in the Colonies [1]:
>
>What is the generic name for this type of bike:
><http://www.pashley.co.uk/products/delibike.html>?
Often referred to as a "butcher's bike" or simply a delivery bike. Not
sure there's a generic term as such.
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Ace in Basel - brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom
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