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Date: 13 Sep 2006 21:26:15
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: What is wrong with ARBR?
A review of the Google archives on ARBR will reveal the vicissitudes this
newsgroup has gone through since its inception long, long ago. It used to be
a very clubby place where everyone was greeting one another with brainless
repartee. Those days are long gone, I have seen to that.

Still, it would not be such a bad thing if we were all friendlier to one
another. Frankly, it is easy to be a bastard; it is not so easy to be a nice
guy. I would like to see this group get back some of its former clubbiness.
The posts of Bill Baka remind me how good this group could be if we would
all stop trying to be such assholes all the time. I exhort and encourage all
of you to look to your better natures. After all, there is no one here but
us cyclists, a fairly innocent pastime you would agree.

I think the main trouble springs from the fact that we are all older men and
therefore contrary as all hell. Let us try to remember what it was like when
we were younger and full of hope for the future. Just because we all have
one foot in the grave does not mean we have to be such ornery cusses all the
time. It would not be such a bad thing if we could get some women involved
in this group as they have altogether gentler and kinder natures. Yea, that
is the problem all right - nothing but crusty old men who hate one another
and mostly just hate themselves.

I am afraid I have scared off most of the women who used to be on this
group. That is because I put them on a pedestal and when they do not live up
to my expectations of them I go berserk. I need to remember that they are
just human after all and not replicas of the Blessed Virgin y.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota






 
Date: 17 Sep 2006 08:44:55
From: Captain
Subject: Re: What is wrong with ARBR?

Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" <sunsetss0003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1158361696.496099.320750@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> [newsgroups restored]
>
> > perryb67@yahoo.com aka Perry Butler wrote:
> >> Joao,
> >>
> >> Actually those days are still here, they're just over at BROL.
> >
> > If you like being babysat by a net nanny.
> >
> >> The only people constantly posting here are closet Ed/Tom lovers.
> >
> > People on other groups (e.g. rec.bicycles.tech) don't run away because
> > [of]
> > a few flame wars. Sheesh!
>
> Yes, Tom is quite right about this. Hell Bells, flame wars are often the
> only thing that engages my interest. There is nothing finer in this world
> than throwing a few good insults back and forth.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

"An occasional bomb thrown at the King is good for him."- Salvador Dali



 
Date: 15 Sep 2006 10:05:00
From: JimmyMac
Subject: Re: What is wrong with ARBR?
Ed,

The TOP POSTED, terse 3 word answer is ..... YOU ARE HERE!!!

Jim McNaa

Edward Dolan wrote:
> A review of the Google archives on ARBR will reveal the vicissitudes this
> newsgroup has gone through since its inception long, long ago. It used to be
> a very clubby place where everyone was greeting one another with brainless
> repartee. Those days are long gone, I have seen to that.
>
> Still, it would not be such a bad thing if we were all friendlier to one
> another. Frankly, it is easy to be a bastard; it is not so easy to be a nice
> guy. I would like to see this group get back some of its former clubbiness.
> The posts of Bill Baka remind me how good this group could be if we would
> all stop trying to be such assholes all the time. I exhort and encourage all
> of you to look to your better natures. After all, there is no one here but
> us cyclists, a fairly innocent pastime you would agree.
>
> I think the main trouble springs from the fact that we are all older men and
> therefore contrary as all hell. Let us try to remember what it was like when
> we were younger and full of hope for the future. Just because we all have
> one foot in the grave does not mean we have to be such ornery cusses all the
> time. It would not be such a bad thing if we could get some women involved
> in this group as they have altogether gentler and kinder natures. Yea, that
> is the problem all right - nothing but crusty old men who hate one another
> and mostly just hate themselves.
>
> I am afraid I have scared off most of the women who used to be on this
> group. That is because I put them on a pedestal and when they do not live up
> to my expectations of them I go berserk. I need to remember that they are
> just human after all and not replicas of the Blessed Virgin y.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



 
Date: 14 Sep 2006 03:27:01
From: Bill Baka
Subject: Re: What is wrong with ARBR?
Edward Dolan wrote:
> A review of the Google archives on ARBR will reveal the vicissitudes this
> newsgroup has gone through since its inception long, long ago. It used to be
> a very clubby place where everyone was greeting one another with brainless
> repartee. Those days are long gone, I have seen to that.
>
> Still, it would not be such a bad thing if we were all friendlier to one
> another. Frankly, it is easy to be a bastard; it is not so easy to be a nice
> guy. I would like to see this group get back some of its former clubbiness.
> The posts of Bill Baka remind me how good this group could be if we would
> all stop trying to be such assholes all the time. I exhort and encourage all
> of you to look to your better natures. After all, there is no one here but
> us cyclists, a fairly innocent pastime you would agree.

I try not to be an ass except in response to 'one' now plonked who was
trying to make a career out of harassing me. Some politics we may
diverge into, but for the most part this should be bike oriented. I
didn't go out today only because by the time I could it was already 80
and headed to 98, not what I want to ride in, especially now when it is
supposed to be cooling down.
>
> I think the main trouble springs from the fact that we are all older men and
> therefore contrary as all hell. Let us try to remember what it was like when
> we were younger and full of hope for the future. Just because we all have
> one foot in the grave does not mean we have to be such ornery cusses all the
> time. It would not be such a bad thing if we could get some women involved
> in this group as they have altogether gentler and kinder natures. Yea, that
> is the problem all right - nothing but crusty old men who hate one another
> and mostly just hate themselves.

I am older but hardly have one foot in the grave, and there are 20
somethings that come on here looking for advice who may be turned back
by all the dissent and excessively long qoute x 10 posted arguments.
>
> I am afraid I have scared off most of the women who used to be on this
> group. That is because I put them on a pedestal and when they do not live up
> to my expectations of them I go berserk. I need to remember that they are
> just human after all and not replicas of the Blessed Virgin y.

I would be perfectly happy to have a wife who enjoyed cycling as I do,
but she drives, not rides, cars or motorcycles.
<sigh >
Bill (solo rider) Baka
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
>


  
Date: 14 Sep 2006 05:12:31
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: What is wrong with ARBR?

"Bill Baka" <bbaka@syix.com > wrote in message
news:9_3Og.658$Ij.481@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> A review of the Google archives on ARBR will reveal the vicissitudes this
>> newsgroup has gone through since its inception long, long ago. It used to
>> be a very clubby place where everyone was greeting one another with
>> brainless repartee. Those days are long gone, I have seen to that.
>>
>> Still, it would not be such a bad thing if we were all friendlier to one
>> another. Frankly, it is easy to be a bastard; it is not so easy to be a
>> nice guy. I would like to see this group get back some of its former
>> clubbiness. The posts of Bill Baka remind me how good this group could be
>> if we would all stop trying to be such assholes all the time. I exhort
>> and encourage all of you to look to your better natures. After all, there
>> is no one here but us cyclists, a fairly innocent pastime you would
>> agree.
>
> I try not to be an ass except in response to 'one' now plonked who was
> trying to make a career out of harassing me. Some politics we may diverge
> into, but for the most part this should be bike oriented. I didn't go out
> today only because by the time I could it was already 80 and headed to 98,
> not what I want to ride in, especially now when it is supposed to be
> cooling down.

Bill, you are a crusty old bastard just the same as I am.

A newsgroup should be at least 75% on-topic and the rest can be in a
psychiatric ward for all I care.

>> I think the main trouble springs from the fact that we are all older men
>> and therefore contrary as all hell. Let us try to remember what it was
>> like when we were younger and full of hope for the future. Just because
>> we all have one foot in the grave does not mean we have to be such ornery
>> cusses all the time. It would not be such a bad thing if we could get
>> some women involved in this group as they have altogether gentler and
>> kinder natures. Yea, that is the problem all right - nothing but crusty
>> old men who hate one another and mostly just hate themselves.
>
> I am older but hardly have one foot in the grave, and there are 20
> somethings that come on here looking for advice who may be turned back by
> all the dissent and excessively long qoute x 10 posted arguments.

If you are over the age of 40, you are old not to say ancient. Did you know
that the average age of the occupants of the Roman catacombs was 23.

>> I am afraid I have scared off most of the women who used to be on this
>> group. That is because I put them on a pedestal and when they do not live
>> up to my expectations of them I go berserk. I need to remember that they
>> are just human after all and not replicas of the Blessed Virgin y.
>
> I would be perfectly happy to have a wife who enjoyed cycling as I do, but
> she drives, not rides, cars or motorcycles.

We need some women who will post to these cycling groups so as to moderate
our hatred of one another.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota




   
Date: 14 Sep 2006 16:21:13
From: Bill Baka
Subject: Re: What is wrong with ARBR?
Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Bill Baka" <bbaka@syix.com> wrote in message
>>> I think the main trouble springs from the fact that we are all older men
>>> and therefore contrary as all hell. Let us try to remember what it was
>>> like when we were younger and full of hope for the future. Just because
>>> we all have one foot in the grave does not mean we have to be such ornery
>>> cusses all the time. It would not be such a bad thing if we could get
>>> some women involved in this group as they have altogether gentler and
>>> kinder natures. Yea, that is the problem all right - nothing but crusty
>>> old men who hate one another and mostly just hate themselves.
>> I am older but hardly have one foot in the grave, and there are 20
>> somethings that come on here looking for advice who may be turned back by
>> all the dissent and excessively long qoute x 10 posted arguments.
>
> If you are over the age of 40, you are old not to say ancient. Did you know
> that the average age of the occupants of the Roman catacombs was 23.

Well then 58 in 2 weeks makes me an antique, but I still love to run at
sprint speed and to stand and attack hills up to a few hundred feet.
That makes me more of an anomaly than an antique. I still have
black/brown hair where my friends even ten years younger have Grey or white.
>
>>> I am afraid I have scared off most of the women who used to be on this
>>> group. That is because I put them on a pedestal and when they do not live
>>> up to my expectations of them I go berserk. I need to remember that they
>>> are just human after all and not replicas of the Blessed Virgin y.
>>
Virgin Who? Oh, yeah, that religious thing the wacko believe in. Some of
the women here could care less about what anyone says, so they are not
going to get scared off. My 5 year old grand son has picked up some
trash talk from the other kids he hangs with. It's going downhill when
he gets to say the F word and his mother thinks it's 'cute', I don't.
Bill Baka
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>
>


  
Date: 14 Sep 2006 02:16:35
From: n5hsr
Subject: Re: What is wrong with ARBR?
"Bill Baka" <bbaka@syix.com > wrote in message
news:9_3Og.658$Ij.481@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
>> A review of the Google archives on ARBR will reveal the vicissitudes this
>> newsgroup has gone through since its inception long, long ago. It used to
>> be a very clubby place where everyone was greeting one another with
>> brainless repartee. Those days are long gone, I have seen to that.
>>
>> Still, it would not be such a bad thing if we were all friendlier to one
>> another. Frankly, it is easy to be a bastard; it is not so easy to be a
>> nice guy. I would like to see this group get back some of its former
>> clubbiness. The posts of Bill Baka remind me how good this group could be
>> if we would all stop trying to be such assholes all the time. I exhort
>> and encourage all of you to look to your better natures. After all, there
>> is no one here but us cyclists, a fairly innocent pastime you would
>> agree.
>
> I try not to be an ass except in response to 'one' now plonked who was
> trying to make a career out of harassing me. Some politics we may diverge
> into, but for the most part this should be bike oriented. I didn't go out
> today only because by the time I could it was already 80 and headed to 98,
> not what I want to ride in, especially now when it is supposed to be
> cooling down.
>>
>> I think the main trouble springs from the fact that we are all older men
>> and therefore contrary as all hell. Let us try to remember what it was
>> like when we were younger and full of hope for the future. Just because
>> we all have one foot in the grave does not mean we have to be such ornery
>> cusses all the time. It would not be such a bad thing if we could get
>> some women involved in this group as they have altogether gentler and
>> kinder natures. Yea, that is the problem all right - nothing but crusty
>> old men who hate one another and mostly just hate themselves.
>
> I am older but hardly have one foot in the grave, and there are 20
> somethings that come on here looking for advice who may be turned back by
> all the dissent and excessively long qoute x 10 posted arguments.
>>
>> I am afraid I have scared off most of the women who used to be on this
>> group. That is because I put them on a pedestal and when they do not live
>> up to my expectations of them I go berserk. I need to remember that they
>> are just human after all and not replicas of the Blessed Virgin y.
>
> I would be perfectly happy to have a wife who enjoyed cycling as I do, but
> she drives, not rides, cars or motorcycles.
> <sigh>
> Bill (solo rider) Baka
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>> aka
>> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>>

And Ed wonders why I have him on my permanent block list.

Charles of Schaumburg




   
Date: 14 Sep 2006 05:16:26
From: Edward Dolan
Subject: Re: What is wrong with ARBR?

"n5hsr" <n5hsr@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:uuydnV3RoIHznJTYnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> "Bill Baka" <bbaka@syix.com> wrote in message
> news:9_3Og.658$Ij.481@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
>> Edward Dolan wrote:
>>> A review of the Google archives on ARBR will reveal the vicissitudes
>>> this newsgroup has gone through since its inception long, long ago. It
>>> used to be a very clubby place where everyone was greeting one another
>>> with brainless repartee. Those days are long gone, I have seen to that.
>>>
>>> Still, it would not be such a bad thing if we were all friendlier to one
>>> another. Frankly, it is easy to be a bastard; it is not so easy to be a
>>> nice guy. I would like to see this group get back some of its former
>>> clubbiness. The posts of Bill Baka remind me how good this group could
>>> be if we would all stop trying to be such assholes all the time. I
>>> exhort and encourage all of you to look to your better natures. After
>>> all, there is no one here but us cyclists, a fairly innocent pastime you
>>> would agree.
>>
>> I try not to be an ass except in response to 'one' now plonked who was
>> trying to make a career out of harassing me. Some politics we may diverge
>> into, but for the most part this should be bike oriented. I didn't go out
>> today only because by the time I could it was already 80 and headed to
>> 98, not what I want to ride in, especially now when it is supposed to be
>> cooling down.
>>>
>>> I think the main trouble springs from the fact that we are all older men
>>> and therefore contrary as all hell. Let us try to remember what it was
>>> like when we were younger and full of hope for the future. Just because
>>> we all have one foot in the grave does not mean we have to be such
>>> ornery cusses all the time. It would not be such a bad thing if we could
>>> get some women involved in this group as they have altogether gentler
>>> and kinder natures. Yea, that is the problem all right - nothing but
>>> crusty old men who hate one another and mostly just hate themselves.
>>
>> I am older but hardly have one foot in the grave, and there are 20
>> somethings that come on here looking for advice who may be turned back by
>> all the dissent and excessively long qoute x 10 posted arguments.
>>>
>>> I am afraid I have scared off most of the women who used to be on this
>>> group. That is because I put them on a pedestal and when they do not
>>> live up to my expectations of them I go berserk. I need to remember that
>>> they are just human after all and not replicas of the Blessed Virgin
>>> y.
>>
>> I would be perfectly happy to have a wife who enjoyed cycling as I do,
>> but she drives, not rides, cars or motorcycles.
>> <sigh>
>> Bill (solo rider) Baka
>
> And Ed wonders why I have him on my permanent block list.
>
> Charles of Schaumburg

Poor Charles of Schaumburg will never know what he is missing!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota




   
Date: 14 Sep 2006 07:23:52
From: Bill Baka
Subject: Re: What is wrong with ARBR?
n5hsr wrote:
> "Bill Baka" <bbaka@syix.com> wrote in message
> news:9_3Og.658$Ij.481@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
>> Edward Dolan wrote:
>>> A review of the Google archives on ARBR will reveal the vicissitudes this
>>> newsgroup has gone through since its inception long, long ago. It used to
>>> be a very clubby place where everyone was greeting one another with
>>> brainless repartee. Those days are long gone, I have seen to that.
>>>
>>> Still, it would not be such a bad thing if we were all friendlier to one
>>> another. Frankly, it is easy to be a bastard; it is not so easy to be a
>>> nice guy. I would like to see this group get back some of its former
>>> clubbiness. The posts of Bill Baka remind me how good this group could be
>>> if we would all stop trying to be such assholes all the time. I exhort
>>> and encourage all of you to look to your better natures. After all, there
>>> is no one here but us cyclists, a fairly innocent pastime you would
>>> agree.
>> I try not to be an ass except in response to 'one' now plonked who was
>> trying to make a career out of harassing me. Some politics we may diverge
>> into, but for the most part this should be bike oriented. I didn't go out
>> today only because by the time I could it was already 80 and headed to 98,
>> not what I want to ride in, especially now when it is supposed to be
>> cooling down.
>>> I think the main trouble springs from the fact that we are all older men
>>> and therefore contrary as all hell. Let us try to remember what it was
>>> like when we were younger and full of hope for the future. Just because
>>> we all have one foot in the grave does not mean we have to be such ornery
>>> cusses all the time. It would not be such a bad thing if we could get
>>> some women involved in this group as they have altogether gentler and
>>> kinder natures. Yea, that is the problem all right - nothing but crusty
>>> old men who hate one another and mostly just hate themselves.
>> I am older but hardly have one foot in the grave, and there are 20
>> somethings that come on here looking for advice who may be turned back by
>> all the dissent and excessively long qoute x 10 posted arguments.
>>> I am afraid I have scared off most of the women who used to be on this
>>> group. That is because I put them on a pedestal and when they do not live
>>> up to my expectations of them I go berserk. I need to remember that they
>>> are just human after all and not replicas of the Blessed Virgin y.
>> I would be perfectly happy to have a wife who enjoyed cycling as I do, but
>> she drives, not rides, cars or motorcycles.
>> <sigh>
>> Bill (solo rider) Baka
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
>>> aka
>>> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
>>>
>
> And Ed wonders why I have him on my permanent block list.
>
> Charles of Schaumburg
>
>
I banter with Ed but plonked Brickston, permanently. He made me want to
go back to my pre-riage days and look him up. I don't need that.
Bill Baka